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How To Ride Any Drop Off On Your MTB | Mountain Bike Skills
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3 жыл бұрынRiding drops on your mountain bike can be a scary prospect! No two drops are the same either... they can vary in size, length, angle and shape and feel! However, there are only ever a handful of techniques for hitting drops, perfectly, every time and Neil's here to share his knowledge with you.
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Head out to your local trail centres and skills parks and find yourself a good drop to start on. Start small until you get your skills perfect and you're hitting the small stuff right every time before working your way up to the larger stuff!
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@andersun16 3 жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how confident I get here in my chair after watching you guys do drops. "Bring it on," I say! But when I get to the park it's a hard no!
@harryhogan7787 3 жыл бұрын
69 nice
@dolphin-studio 2 жыл бұрын
why not try I more confortable drop and then go up from there?
@chrisfoster3772 2 жыл бұрын
Watch it on the lift
@stevenkilleen8149 2 жыл бұрын
We all feel this way u just gotta send it tho only way to progress is too push yourself
@ttruong225 2 жыл бұрын
the no fingers on brake really works. I went from barely doing any jumps to clearing 10 ft jumps/table tops in 1-2 weeks. Still not doing gaps since room for error is too low, lol
@andywall5049 3 жыл бұрын
one thing I always tell people on something like this, and Ive not heard one instructional video even mention it, is that looking down a drop off etc, remember, your eyes are higher than your feet. You're only dropping from foot level yet people get scared and hesitate because they are using their eyes to judge height of the drop etc.
@AaronCurtin 3 жыл бұрын
That's such a good point 👍
@tobygordon5442 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great point
@chrisfoster3772 2 жыл бұрын
Well said andy
@orangeapple681 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if you fall your head travels that far 😅
@quinlan9860 Жыл бұрын
@orangeapple681 that's exactly what I thought when reading this 😂😂
@frthdo 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do another update video with the camera man? like the one you did a few years ago, I found that really helpful you teaching someone else!
@jamreyn4579 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to wish everyone safe riding!
@Jacob99174 3 жыл бұрын
Please, proceed with the wishing
@eyeop3n1ng 3 жыл бұрын
U2
@belh_0032 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate you too!
@kay1975 3 жыл бұрын
Same for you and all the riders aut there!
@richardmckernan7777 3 жыл бұрын
Neil, if you watch your body position in the sequence from 3:35, you are doing a couple of other things before sliding your weight back; you are bringing your head forward and down (notice how much more bent your elbows are at 3:38 than 3:36)). This weights the front pre-drop and creates a bigger weight transfer for the slide back. In some ways this is the pre-drop ready position (more so the slower you are going) but not the ‘just riding along’ ready position. Perhaps worth more explanation?
@kieranrae 3 жыл бұрын
Neil is by far the most helpful and relatable presenter on this channel. Blake is fun and Ashton is great, but these videos by Neil are brilliant.
@ringothepup 3 жыл бұрын
I find that particular drop quite intimidating and walked away from it recently despite being confident riding other much bigger drops. It looks so tame on this too! I think I'm going to have to go back and tick it off now! Cheers Neil
@simonhealey7400 3 жыл бұрын
Where is this drop? Forest of Dean?
@davidkline4372 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a yank living in Oregon and I've bought a few things for my MTB from Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK. Every time I read a product description or an article on its site I envision Neil is the one who wrote it and it's his voice I read it in... That's a compliment to Neil. excellent advice and love his delivery.
@miket9396 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't look down." For me that's key ... Did it with berms and could never ride them fast until I looked at the run out instead of the actual berm. I always look straight down on drops and it messes me up. This makes sense, great tip ... Testing out this weekend!!
@biopower5160 3 жыл бұрын
Today im gonna buy My hardtail!
@Ropetable 3 жыл бұрын
sweet, what model?
@biopower5160 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ropetable its an dimondback sync'r pretty happy with it
@A.D.D.O.C.D.T 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy mate 🔥
@biopower5160 3 жыл бұрын
@@A.D.D.O.C.D.T 👍🏼
@fox_trotamus3556 3 жыл бұрын
Happy riding
@sebbennett333 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you choose too demonstration this on the GBU drop. 👍
@aaron_jordaan 3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that drops are literally the easiest thing in mountain biking if you have an idea on what to do and you go fast the drop feels like nothing
@James-dn1hu 3 жыл бұрын
Drops are a peice of piss compared to jumps really
@mitchbloxsom5695 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I did big drops light years before I did equally as difficult jumps
@Arthur-mh2uo 3 жыл бұрын
Im the other way round I can do jumps much larger than drop offs
@antreaskonstantinou8585 3 жыл бұрын
@@Arthur-mh2uo same. I once failed a drop (before i knew how to ride that well) and now im terified of them.
@hawkeyelikesbikes 2 жыл бұрын
@@antreaskonstantinou8585 That's the thing, isn't it? Crashing seriously messes with your head. There's a gutter I hit a few weeks ago - came in too hot, got the timing all wrong, dropped the front wheel in instead of up and over, and went OTB. Now I'm too scared to bunny hop kerbs!
@James-dn1hu 3 жыл бұрын
Been off the bike for three months and have another three to wait until new bike day and these videos are keeping me sain Thankyou. Although I’m not sure watching mtb content takes my mind of the fact I don’t currently own an mtb. 🤣
@ZackSavir 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is the video I’ve been waiting for! I’m terrible at drops! Thanks for the video!
@michaelfleming4015 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was an excellent explanation. I’ve seen several by other presenters and that was the best.
@oliverbourne9599 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else gonna try that drop with a bike that's got the wheelbase of a POLE ............ top work that Neil
@richardjones2811 3 жыл бұрын
Neil you've done it again! Mentioned the dropping of the heels and clearly not doing it 🙈You don't need to drop your heels when actually dropping off anything. Maybe after to assist with the brake power to the rear wheel but certainly not whilst dropping. If anything keep the pedals level whilst dropping off and drop your toes to match the landing gradient, certainly not the heels!
@philboynz 3 жыл бұрын
Use the shopping trolly method. Think how you approach a kurb with a trolly, push your arms out as you hit a kurb and push your weight back over the back wheel 😉👍
@brendanadams1572 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for this vid - I’m pretty new to MTB and have one drop-off that scares the hell out of me - the tips here really helped and now I’m doing it with ease :-)
@xeroblade012 3 жыл бұрын
Lovin' the color of his Pole Stamina! Simple, clean...and that's about it.
@spaceiscool1236 3 жыл бұрын
When I was riding fkr the first time in 4 years, I did a 6 foot drop... and wiped out but now even without this video I think I can conquer it but with this video I defo can
@ridelove13 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe i can try now the 6m drop in my local bikepark😂
@keaton4054 3 жыл бұрын
Yee lmfao 😂😂👍
@alvelliottt 3 жыл бұрын
6 metres is 19 foot, that's literally over 3 times a 6ft human. you've got the wrong measurement
@keaton4054 3 жыл бұрын
@@alvelliottt ye he probably meant to say 6 mile drop 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ridelove13 3 жыл бұрын
Search for Bikepark Leogang drop
@jamesbooth1860 3 жыл бұрын
Dude your set just go for it, jk 😂
@Moomin420 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been eyeing up this exact drop for over a year now.. think it’s just a headf*ck now! Need to get brave and get it done!
@callum1967 3 жыл бұрын
You got this m8!
@mbretaynef9978 3 жыл бұрын
SEND ITT
@paw101 3 жыл бұрын
Where is it?
@simonhealey7400 3 жыл бұрын
FoD... I blew my collarbone on this. Went in blind and didn't realise it was on a bend lol
@adrideboeck3690 2 жыл бұрын
I came across a drop-off, watched this video in the woods & nailed it afterwards. More or less :-)
@DeadsetYT 3 жыл бұрын
Point it straight and be confident. :D Happy riding everyone!!
@A.D.D.O.C.D.T 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤙
@scottdouglasshieldsnclmtab9950 3 жыл бұрын
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID !! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@thomaswindsor9485 3 жыл бұрын
Love this, same video, same location, same drops as a video about 2 years ago
@mbal4052 3 жыл бұрын
New viewers
@thomaswindsor9485 3 жыл бұрын
@@mbal4052 Yeah makes sense to all the newbies, not us old-timer though !!!
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
Like these short form vids....easier to watch than the long 15m plus ones.... but more useful than those 3-4min ones
@OscarHawkes 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to know more about the landing part. What are some good things to keep in mind when bracing for a bigger impact upon landing?
@AayanKhan-me3to 3 жыл бұрын
Ok this actually helps me a whole lot. Thanks!
@mabecka 3 жыл бұрын
If there's an edge like a root on the drop, a small bunnyhop is much safer than the weight shift method.
@Kacavida11 3 жыл бұрын
That drop look at first scary, so in the new year i wish us all some skills and courage, its all good until you stand in front of the edge and look down, anyway have a good one and God bless ;)
@migatron1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about to send it off of El Capitan
@MK4vDubbin 3 жыл бұрын
Stay strong in your riding posture and you should be fine.
@jongjulee4165 3 жыл бұрын
@@MK4vDubbin yep. All you need is confidence and speed, youll be down there in no time
@Maxwaehrens 3 жыл бұрын
@@jongjulee4165 You probably also need a parachute lol
@MissFluffies 2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation on the “why”!
@MrDino-hp7fy 2 жыл бұрын
I always did the front wheel lift but decided I didn't want to die moving up to bigger drops so I'ma learn the right way
@samwilliams7191 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid this one. Fantastic shots and want to say how well you always explain things 👏🏼👏🏼 Excellent
@SamBaskettVLOGS 3 жыл бұрын
Still prefer Dave’s HOW TO.... taught me everything I needed
@oliverbourne9599 3 жыл бұрын
..... a comment for those in the know 😄😄
@Patat0four 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing, very impressive ! This massive mushroom cluster on the bottom of the rail is out of this world !
@ericavdberg4871 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. I am going to try this this weekend with what obstacles I can find. This is one of my issues on the trials. Only new to the sport.
@philiplasky6760 Жыл бұрын
Thanks it was very interesting to here your drop off video
@wetwebber 3 жыл бұрын
New Neil drops video. The trail has a fence now.
@HUSHHUSH- 3 жыл бұрын
Good reminder as got a project coming so that feeds in brilliant. Awesome explanation 🙌👌
@oliverlegge2016 3 жыл бұрын
Another really nice video with clear instruction. Thanks. BTW your frame is the most gorgeous thing I've ever seen!
@dirkg.950 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid, remembered me of good old times of content and no commercials
@TheButlerNZ 2 жыл бұрын
Neil... this must B one of the 1st times I've heard a presenter mention the 'shift back' vs 'push the bike forward' mindset. q8D As the world revolves around me, I'm a "bush the bike bike forward" brain... (I'm also semi ambidextrous so I is wired weird anyhooze. I also find on drops from 1ft to 3ft, all I need is the right speed, and a little preload of the front forks... and for 1ft drops, if I'm not trying to impress anyone, I push the front down AFTER the lip to get my front wheel down quickly... (being careful not to over extend the arms by beginning my body drop before the front leaves the lip, bringing m y chest down to the bars and then pushing away the front is airborne)... BUT... This works for me... and may not be good at all for others... and I'm a mediocre rider.. Joe Average (like my videos)... so give it a try,... but don't take it as gospel. I have found... (video project on hold waiting for summer to return...) that it is near effortless to do a 1m flat to flat drop with just a preload of the forks, centre weight, no pushing the bike forward... and a near flat landing... even less effort if the landing is downhill. (Tho I did find preloading the front forks often led to a natural push out of the bike as a bonus)
@Emmettok 3 жыл бұрын
Actually helpful
@nicolegreen6497 3 жыл бұрын
You’re 4th incase u didn’t know
@Thedoug369 9 ай бұрын
I usually just preload and yank up on the bars just as the front wheel is about to roll off, how hard you yank depends on the slope of the landing of course.
@johnelbers7176 3 жыл бұрын
Neil great breakdown now comes the courage to do it
@corkr900 3 жыл бұрын
I can do drops smaller than about 6 feet of height but my big struggle with bigger drops is body position. When my legs are fully extended, I've basically run out of movement and am at the mercy of physics whereas if I'm in a more neutral position I can still change my body position to adjust my balance or landing position. Jumps, especially steep-faced jumps, make this easy because your handlebars are right up in your torso when you lose ground contact and that makes it easy to return to that neutral position until it's time to land. With drops, moving my weight back means I'm going into the air with my legs already almost fully extended and I feel like I don't really have a way to return to that neutral position without losing contact with my pedals
@piast99 3 жыл бұрын
How about the drop offs that have quite steep run in? I really struggle on those. What is the proper technique on them? The problem for me is that you are already behind the bike and applying the brakes when you approach the drop off and there is not a lot of space to move even more behind. What I do is let the brakes off just before the drop off edge and jerk handlebars but I don't feel comfortable nor confident at all even on small drop offs with steep run in.
@MK4vDubbin 3 жыл бұрын
My advice would be to talk to other guys hitting that particular drop and ask them where the commitment point is in the run up, or the point where you need to be at speed and off of your brakes entirely. Once you know that most guys will be happy to tow you in or let you follow them off the drop which helps to gauge proper speed the first few times you hit it. Drop can be intimidating but they basically boil down to getting your speed correct and keeping your posture strong with your weight distributed evenly or slightly back. Be very careful about getting into the habit of pulling up off of drops. It causes a lot of people to loop out or overshoot and land flat.
@lukesteele5013 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing, compress pop push your front wheel forward and your good🤟
@bahubacommon 2 жыл бұрын
Even when the run in is steep, you should still be in the neutral/attack position as you approach the lip, and only then push the bike out/shift your weight back as your front wheel goes over the lip: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8uof9ugzcjTY2w.html
@hermannoehlingcuesta114 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very good demonstration. I helped me a lot !
@johnlever6696 3 жыл бұрын
I did an 18 inch flat to flat drop yesterday. Looks hardly anything but it’s scary if you’ve never done it. It’s crazy how easily you can nose dive the front so if it was a big one you’d come unstuck.
@bauke-LV426 3 жыл бұрын
nice one, that last drop-in 👍
@rupedog 3 жыл бұрын
1:33 shows the 'push bike through' technique beautifully 👏👏👏 and its the easiest way to do drops imo. ....Push the Bike Through....
@meep6188 3 жыл бұрын
I think of it more as shift your weight back. Technically the same thing but I've seen some people actually try to push and push in the wrong way lol
@Pienimusta 3 жыл бұрын
Close your eyes and Send It!
@curtisf.r6233 3 жыл бұрын
An when you open your eyes, you'll be in hospital💯
@ddsgardening7437 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New year Neil ,looking forward to watching more of your excellent coaching vids Cheers Mate 🙏
@meep6188 3 жыл бұрын
This video is much much better than your previous one with Chris Smith. Lol..
@oren2010T 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the great Video !!!
@ChristopherChanCanada Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Your video helps a lot!
@mudia80 2 жыл бұрын
What about a little pop off (american bunny hop) instead of moving to the rear? Tha advantege is you don't have to move yourself on bike so much (its easier) and don't have to return to the attack position (or whatever you call it) because you constantly are above bottom bracket. For short landing little pop, for long landing (possible gap) strong pop. Yes, the timing is important, but for moving to the rear is also important.
@carlclarey4921 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos guys and really helping my riding 👍😊
@SpeedKid117 3 жыл бұрын
I love you Neil!!!
@masterlinkmtb9277 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Happy New year!!!
@petersledz67 3 жыл бұрын
A few months ago I did a enduro clinic and that said exactly the opposite. They said you have to weight the front wheel as long as possible (shoulders above the steer, elbows in an 90° angle) and push the front wheel down. The reason was that head angles of modern enduro bikes are steep enough. With the weight back, the front doesn't have grip fast enough. With the attack pisition the bike is more balanced & stable.
@sapinva 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, have seen the same. Don't care for that technique myself. No head angle will help if the drop is longer than the bike. It's misleading because unless you are going 20 mph you still have to unweight the front wheel before it goes off the edge. Pushing through works everywhere, even at crawling speeds, and that skill is applicable to many other situations. I tend to hop everything just because it's fun, but that can turn into a front flip if you misjudge and tap the rear wheel.
@Celeon999A 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the bigger drops are still intimidating for a reason. ;-) Always keep in mind that even if you do it all right, you can still hurt yourself if the drop is just too deep. When seriously in doubt of taking on such a monster, just stop and take a different route. Look at what Olly Wilkins did to his ankle over the christmas holidays ;-D
@Bondan46 3 жыл бұрын
Very motivate for newbie like me to take big drop 😁😁..
@daffbikes3619 3 жыл бұрын
top video guys 👍 Really helpful tips
@xxxavierrr142 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial I'm off to redbull rampage Cheers m8
@PabloLorEst 3 жыл бұрын
Also, don't pedal close to the drop! Make sure your weight is evenly distributed.
@Yoda-em5mt 3 жыл бұрын
Hey the Don having that CRAzy long pole makes anything seam possible.
@nvillbeats 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@GDub83 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to do the manual/bunny hop method. Tho I ride on a bmx and it's a habit I think. I also try to keep my butt over my back wheel as much as I can so I can get my balance in check.
@Adrenaliving Жыл бұрын
Not what I learned while on a private session. But I guess there are different techniques
@untukgamessaja9394 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained many thanks for this. I have a question about suspension setup. How do i know that i will not bottoming out if i see a big drop with flat landing and how to reduce the risk. Thank you
@charlie9ine 3 жыл бұрын
I practiced and learned riding drop offs on a hard tail. I got pretty good, well okay. I got a full suspension bike, Kona Coiler and was amazed at how much easier it was on a full suspension bike. I don’t go off massive drops. I’d say 1 metre to flat is my extreme. My sister had back surgery last summer and my bike got stolen. I’m on a great new Cube Stereo but after a season of almost no riding I’ve found I’ve got a case of the “yipps”. I’m white knuckling the grips on little drops. Any ideas how I can get my confidence back? It’s really in my head. Thanks.
@dacads 3 жыл бұрын
Not surprised, also I guess anything too big you want enough fork travel to stop them bottoming out. Start small as they say then work your way up. Just have to go for it , hopefully wearing pads and a full face helmet can give you some extra confidence. Maybe some lessons ?
@DuzBee 3 жыл бұрын
This video format is much better than some others, where Blake tries to bring cheap gimmick comedy in to an instructional video. Keep it concise and informative. Don’t have time to sit through 5yr old style jokes.
@harleycross4170 9 ай бұрын
And 2 minutes before I watch a video where they say “look over bars, and push the front wheel down”. Gotta love KZfaq advice
@tristanmcfee5238 3 жыл бұрын
So I have a problem with braking because I start braking after I hit the drop too late so I have to much speed for the corner or feature after. There is this on drop that is simple I’ve hit it multiple times but there is a big rock behind the corner that I tend to barely miss most of the time but sometimes I hit it, the corner is sharp and flat usually dry any tips would be great.
@SKBPM_ENIGMATIK 3 жыл бұрын
Great clip & info!👌🏆
@schwantzrossi1266 3 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks very helpful
@stuartj2773 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, how about do a small pop? I found it also works well for drop.
@zypher2001 3 жыл бұрын
True true
@mbretaynef9978 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@meep6188 3 жыл бұрын
Popping on a drop is a bad idea. All you really have to do is shift your weight back. Only time you'd pop is if you're going to slow to roll off the edge with the shifting technique
@youthinasia7 3 жыл бұрын
I have to be honest. These videos are not making me safer. They make me want to send gnarly features lol. I love these guys
@Larpy1933 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, MAN.
@mpk33 3 жыл бұрын
Neil, can you show us how to properly crash it too, as you are the GMBN expert at it...lol ;-)
@frugal1830 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jasonh4709 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@beardedvikingmtber 3 жыл бұрын
The famous Dave jenvey drop 🤙🏻😂🤙🏻
@yorkshiremtber7884 3 жыл бұрын
The legend 🤙🏻
@aakos26 3 жыл бұрын
...one of them, don't forget the chiksand. As I remember that was the cause of "cannonball" look.
@nai_nosnikcid7881 3 жыл бұрын
his redemption done us all proud
@markyp1965 3 жыл бұрын
That’s right, the guy who decided it was right to ride it when it was fenced/taped off because it wasn’t ready to ride following maintenance work. Fully merited the criticism he received for it.
@beardedvikingmtber 3 жыл бұрын
@@markyp1965 I have no idea what you’re on about.
@inkpenproductions3373 3 жыл бұрын
How might the technique change for a drop without the sloping runout? I have a trouble spot at my local trail, only about a 5ft (1.5m?) drop, but its flat to flat, followed by a rock garden. I always lose my momentum on the drop and then struggle to roll smooth through. I'd like to be able to clear the whole thing without feet leaving pedals but I can't dial it in.
@mojaverc1585 3 жыл бұрын
Holy head angle!
@jamesbowie1074 3 жыл бұрын
Oh new video... yay
@stephenpondara9711 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm..... Neil has been riding flats these days...... When will be the "Returning to Flats" vid be coming out ? 😗🤐
@eventualreason4666 3 жыл бұрын
My YT was real low resolution and I thought he was on the Grim Donut!
@lukepws-skiandmtb1122 3 жыл бұрын
This helps GMBN
@TCK71 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@Philthy82 3 жыл бұрын
That's all well and good, but what's up with those yellow spokes?? Seriously though, good video 👍
@quadrant2012 3 жыл бұрын
And you're starting on the very drop off at my local that I've yet to get confidence to hit
@franticfrancis9710 3 жыл бұрын
Just roll it @bendeakin
@kicknitoldskool 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha
@aakos26 3 жыл бұрын
Classic
@ITZYOURSAVAGE 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this wouldve helped 7 hours ago i took the worst slam of my life today of a drop i made today with my bike club at my local trials and i still cant breath right.
@Philthy82 3 жыл бұрын
How are you now? Have you successfully hit the same spot since?
@ITZYOURSAVAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@Dawson too much speed
@ITZYOURSAVAGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@Philthy82 I’m better. I shattered my ribs. Rode my bike again for the first time 2 days ago
@Philthy82 3 жыл бұрын
@@ITZYOURSAVAGE that's a fair recovery time! Glad you're back to health! 👍
@chrisibberson9742 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest issue I have is getting my head around not being able to see the landing. I can roll off anything with a flat landing minute it’s a landing I can’t see I bottle it
@gunjamed93 3 жыл бұрын
same issue here ):
@mbretaynef9978 3 жыл бұрын
Just eye it up before and then you will know ;)
@andromache2104 2 жыл бұрын
How about if it's a flat landing? Still same technique? Push the bike forward?
@zeidakiss 3 жыл бұрын
that is a beautiful bicycle
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