How to Ride in Deep Sand on Heavy Adventure Bikes - Let the Bike Steer Itself

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MOTOTREK

MOTOTREK

Күн бұрын

Soft sand is a challenge for all motorcycle riders! Here are the steps you can practice to ride in deep sand. Bret demonstrates using his BMW R1200GS. Special thanks to Ryan at FORTNINE for the collaboration!
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@MOTOTREK
@MOTOTREK 11 күн бұрын
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@RideWithRen
@RideWithRen 6 жыл бұрын
Mototrek plus Fortnine? It's KZfaq motorcycling gold!!
@GenonUK
@GenonUK 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect combination. More!!!
@DuzBee
@DuzBee 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, great to see a collaboration for the betterment of motorcycle rider knowledge and skill. Bravo
@nishant1857
@nishant1857 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see RyanF9 in your video.
@destructoooo
@destructoooo 2 жыл бұрын
Good, were there any more videos of them both together?
@HeartBrokenBiker
@HeartBrokenBiker 6 жыл бұрын
Ahaaa... professor Ryan Surprise!
@arqteryx2008
@arqteryx2008 3 жыл бұрын
Profressor Ryan is the name of the guy with half burned eyebrows?
@49Roadmaster
@49Roadmaster 4 жыл бұрын
Was barreling down a dirt road the other day and came up on 8"+ deep loose sand heavy rutted by heavy equipment doing 50++kmph. Sure glad I had watched this video a few times, and even happier I remembered everything you said. The road was like this for over 2km so I ran it out. I must admit I was very proud of myself and thankful for the channel.
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p 2 жыл бұрын
Did you maintain 50 kph throughout? Did the front end squirm a lot at that speed?
@hdtcustoms11188
@hdtcustoms11188 6 жыл бұрын
Two masters in one video . That was awesome breakfast of knowledge . Thnx love from India
@AlfonsoSantiago
@AlfonsoSantiago 6 жыл бұрын
Just bring +spurge (ig: @thefixxer) from +revzilla and it will be my most favourite video.
@whatsnext6805
@whatsnext6805 5 жыл бұрын
Hdt customs good to see you here 😊
@WestOfTwinPeaks
@WestOfTwinPeaks 6 жыл бұрын
Nice collaboration with F9! I always have a smile on my face through sand until I have sand in my teeth.
@luckyjordan8139
@luckyjordan8139 6 жыл бұрын
I love it! My two favorite Moto vloggers in one video!
@eggman84ish
@eggman84ish 6 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@cyanogen7582
@cyanogen7582 5 жыл бұрын
Legit the best duo, mototrek and fortnine are my gotos for adv and general motorcycling info.
@pont0n
@pont0n 4 жыл бұрын
IT made me LOL
@4mthoppy
@4mthoppy 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Wagnon ditto on that. Noob here. 100 miles on my new TW 200. I love Ryan and Fort Nine and getting to really appreciate Brent and MotoTrek. Dan, Dan the fireman is helping too. All great teachers to learn from mentally before I ride and when I ride and reenforce.
@FilmHerald
@FilmHerald 6 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT IT'S F9
@69adrummer
@69adrummer 6 жыл бұрын
What I learned from this video: Hold on loosely, don't let go. If you cling too tightly, you're gonna lose control. That kind of sounds like a song....eh, nevermind, it won't sell.
@MOTOTREK
@MOTOTREK 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@norsefalconer
@norsefalconer 6 жыл бұрын
Too funny! You win the internet.
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
I'd buy that. I nominate Celine Dion for vocals. ~RF9
@barrymatherly
@barrymatherly 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Now that is in my head... forever. Seriously clever though!
@sumporfuk
@sumporfuk 6 жыл бұрын
Sand on my GSA is admittedly my weak link and your so right about going out and finding sand to practice in. The problem is in the Midwest there just ain’t much of it. Great advice, though, thanks 🙏
@DavidTopps
@DavidTopps 6 жыл бұрын
Great to see Brett and Ryan collaborating on this one. Nice juxtaposition of presentation styles.
@elyasfloyd
@elyasfloyd 6 жыл бұрын
David Topps for 😎
@elyasfloyd
@elyasfloyd 6 жыл бұрын
David Topps sgsh😎5hcnvcjf😎
@zugmeister314
@zugmeister314 3 жыл бұрын
It was a cool video then he kicked it over to Ryan. I'm like "ok, time to click that thumbs up don't even care what Ryan says!
@iPedroMota
@iPedroMota 6 жыл бұрын
Cool to see this explained what I learned through trial and error in Mongolia. One can only wipe out so many times before going "screw it I'm hitting it fast on the next patch". Did it on the next section of super soft, 95kmh or so, held my breath, flew through it. Life was never the same after that, what a rush. Having that "fuck it" moment helps a lot I reckon to put aside that fear you mentioned.
@ronanrogers4127
@ronanrogers4127 5 жыл бұрын
...did you use the rear brake like Brett suggested would raise the front wheel...or did you just use lots of throttle?
@africamike3095
@africamike3095 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pedro, one thing to remember is that Brett and Ryan ride BMW's........you got to ask yourself,"but can they do it on an overloaded Transalp????"😀😀😀😀😀😀..........gotta love the fact that 3 (Brett, Ryan AND Pedro) of the best youtubers feature here.....awesome vid!
@kendrickpavey6683
@kendrickpavey6683 6 жыл бұрын
The two best motorcycling guys on the internet. I think I had a bikegasm...great tips debunking the bullshit out there. An excellent technical description of why the bike self corrects. Thankyou!
@simonecasadio930
@simonecasadio930 6 жыл бұрын
What a surprise! The two greatests moto-story-tecnique-tellers together! Great video! As always.
@mohba01
@mohba01 6 жыл бұрын
good tips. i'd also like to add more sag to the rear shock if its an adjustable unit. decrease air pressure a bit too. Also, the BMW GS is a bad example for Ryans explanation, which btw, is absolutely spot on. The question to ask is, Why has BMW dumped his telelever for the HP2. My answer for is that the front wheel kinematics was "refusing bumps" for the telelever setup. Technicians will agree that a wheel is refusing bumps when the tire patch is accelerating on bumps, but on the contrary with a telescopic fork, the wheel has to decelerate on bumps and therefore is swallowings bumps. This is why Moto-cross bikes have got less vertical fork tubes. BMW's approach with the GS was: "With touring bikes, it's not so bad : just shaking your forearms a bit when accelerating on a bumpy road" .. this is why the HP2 does not have a telelever, nor did any of thier works bikes.
@umphreydave24
@umphreydave24 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see you and Ryan creating content together! Keep up the great work!
@RajeevAcharyaRidewithRaj
@RajeevAcharyaRidewithRaj 6 жыл бұрын
There you go my Favourites in one video Daaaaaam, Way to go and as Bret says always look ahead not down, Also Tim that was a fab execution cheers guys keep rocking
@wfodavid
@wfodavid 5 жыл бұрын
I've been racing MX and off-road for over 40 years and decided I needed a 500LB 1290? It's definitely a new ball game with this beast, especially in tight single track and deep sand. Practice is my friend. These videos are great.
@KarlRock
@KarlRock 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice.
@cibichakravarthyramesh9438
@cibichakravarthyramesh9438 3 жыл бұрын
So you here after you own an Himalayan 😛....
@vinerwe
@vinerwe 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers to the 2 best dudes on motorcycles!
@DawidWeiss
@DawidWeiss 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say: yours are among the best instruction videos on the internet. Not flashy, detailed and informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@nickcalnephone
@nickcalnephone 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan AND Brett. Now that's an adroit combination. More please.
@FortNine
@FortNine 6 жыл бұрын
Not as adroit as your use of "adroit." Respect. ~RF9
@ridewithgnr2116
@ridewithgnr2116 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bret and Tim. Nice video for newbie dirt riders like me. Trail braking for nose-up-sand-riding was a new concept for me for sure.
@bonesworld7178
@bonesworld7178 5 жыл бұрын
I love it! my 2 favorite you tubers on another great production. Brett-Ryan you dudes are studs
@ADVRaiderKTM
@ADVRaiderKTM 6 жыл бұрын
Bret and Ryan are on track to take over the motorcycle internetz! awesome!
@noscil9403
@noscil9403 3 жыл бұрын
Getting an ADV soon and just learning about this channel. I really love the advice, and seeing Ryan here is just the cherry on top :) Big smile on my face.
@sevenshadesofsmooth
@sevenshadesofsmooth 2 жыл бұрын
I went offroad for the first time today on a 99 Honda Varadero XL1000V. I had watched a good number of your vids before today and they really helped me keep the big old bus upright. Its a totally different set of skills from road, so thank you for the informative videos, they made my trip with friends enjoyable rather than disastrous. Many thanks from Australia
@MTL_Rider
@MTL_Rider 4 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that I always come back to your videos to get a refresh lesson, as we forget the basics and keep doing the same mistakes when we ride. Also very happy you and Ryan teamed up on this video, you both are my favorite motorcycle KZfaq Channels that I always look forward to watching and learning.
@GRequinBlanc
@GRequinBlanc 4 жыл бұрын
same here - just did that today in fact!
@Dr.Twisty
@Dr.Twisty 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the best motorcycle instructional video ever. Really great job guys! Thanks!
@jameystuart8473
@jameystuart8473 6 жыл бұрын
I am an riding veteran of 30+ years, but an absolute novice in adventure riding. You make it look sooo easy, but I love the videos and am trying to learn. Thanks!
@sudeepmaniyani2288
@sudeepmaniyani2288 5 жыл бұрын
Fortnine & Mototrek together.... awesome guys....keep the collaboration going👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@DavidHathaway
@DavidHathaway 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and comforting. I loved seeing Ryan.
@KellyWhitehouse
@KellyWhitehouse 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Bret. Excellent explanation of the basic sand riding techniques.
@thedarkknight4243
@thedarkknight4243 6 жыл бұрын
Great info as always, love the moto wisdom gained in experience Great combo with Ryan F9, keep it up All in all, your videos and knowledge are the best in training new and old adventure riders.
@robertbotta6536
@robertbotta6536 6 жыл бұрын
Great subject. Fantastic footage. Fun collaboration. Well done and thank you.
@liqwiz
@liqwiz 3 жыл бұрын
I've had so many different kinds of advice over the years, and I had developed a fear. What you said about having the right attitude, and letting the bike go where it wants... I had a *lot* of fun in the sand and I never thought that was possible. Thank you for that.
@YoShImUrA53
@YoShImUrA53 6 жыл бұрын
My two favorite motorcycle channels on KZfaq joining forces? And on a particularly interesting topic I needed help with? This deserves a comment. Here, thank you guys!!
@stevemccann3976
@stevemccann3976 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the info. Something this old guy will have to go out and get used to. Thanks also to Ryan for the input. I learned something today, again!
@EMFRocks
@EMFRocks 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, the conveyance of the technical explanation of rake and its effects in the sand was very well done! Learned something today!
@viiinslancelot5847
@viiinslancelot5847 4 жыл бұрын
Mototrek and Fortnine are my favourite channels. Great guys and great techniques!
@eduardocamara3863
@eduardocamara3863 6 жыл бұрын
Really nice class. Good to see Ryan in the video! Keep the channel going! You're doing an excellent work! Kudos from Rio!
@barrymatherly
@barrymatherly 6 жыл бұрын
You and Ryan F9 are in my top three or four all time favorites on You Tube. Hope we see more of you together.
@BretTkacs
@BretTkacs 6 жыл бұрын
Barry Matherly WhAT?! Top 3 or 4?!?! I should be first... Ryan can be 4th ;-)
@patrickperron3388
@patrickperron3388 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like i am not the only one here loving these two guys on the Tube. Natural match! Please do some more stuff together: You’re like a motorcyling encyclopedia 🤓
@hamadsaudal-thani2498
@hamadsaudal-thani2498 5 жыл бұрын
Truly the most wondedfull knowledge on riding motorcycles. What I learned is to take it easy and the bike will be in yiur control. You get tense, the bike will feel it and fight you back.
@olafholm
@olafholm Ай бұрын
Love seeing our Spokane, Washington ORV park put to the test! A great place to practice just about every type of terrain...sand included!
@predsam
@predsam 6 жыл бұрын
Great information, I am always learning on this channel. Love that you had Ryan on. You two are my favourite KZfaq creators by far.
@jamestucci8318
@jamestucci8318 6 жыл бұрын
Great information. I’ve been told over and over again. Gas it hold on. Not anymore. Good job and thanks to the both of you. KLR Jim
@DuzBee
@DuzBee 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see a collaboration for the betterment of motorcycle rider knowledge and skill. Bravo
@Franzuccato
@Franzuccato 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for creating it! 👏👏👏👏
@jhill2328
@jhill2328 6 жыл бұрын
W0w, nice tutorial! Best I've ever seen. Keep up the good work. Now I want to find some sand!
@wizerd2089
@wizerd2089 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great sharing of knowledge Brett and RFN! Really appreciate the work y'all do.
@MOTOTREK
@MOTOTREK 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@shermanjenne3154
@shermanjenne3154 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I always enjoy your attitude but facing your challenges on the trail
@orangelion03
@orangelion03 6 жыл бұрын
Mototrek and FortNine, my two favorite moto channels combined! Great work gents!! Yeah, I be scared of sand. This helps, but I will be seeking direct pro instruction soon, and practicing.
@robertcoman4236
@robertcoman4236 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and a great surprise! Thanks, guys!
@hyd119
@hyd119 5 жыл бұрын
This was my first time seeing the channel. Excellent production quality and I learned a thing or two as well. Subscribed.
@vitaliiok7786
@vitaliiok7786 5 жыл бұрын
just watched this div over again and got amazed second time:) great job!
@ryanhumphrey2268
@ryanhumphrey2268 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see Ryan on here, great team you two would make. Thanks
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 5 жыл бұрын
That was a good lesson and the first alternative I have seen to opening the taps.. Thank you
@TheSandipDev
@TheSandipDev 5 жыл бұрын
I have doing much of these things instinctively but it was great to hear these things being pointed out. Very useful
@wandererscott
@wandererscott 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite skills guy and my favorite review guy in the same video! Thanks!
@gustoramus
@gustoramus 6 жыл бұрын
two of the best, Mototrek and FortNine, thanks for teaming up.
@pollepost
@pollepost 6 жыл бұрын
fortNine for the win
@BikerBytes
@BikerBytes 5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation guys. Just learned these things after my latest motocamping trip with a lot of sandy dirt road. Gained a lot of experience from that trip. Good vid.
@Nombredecorsario1
@Nombredecorsario1 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks to you both!!
@DA-pb5yl
@DA-pb5yl 6 жыл бұрын
Two of my favorite motorcycle youtubers in one video... Shweet! Nice video!
@maxmmpower
@maxmmpower 6 жыл бұрын
your lessons keep getting better and more fun. great fortnine guest spot, my other fav channel for adv. now go wheelie in tim horton!
@MotoRidesAustralia
@MotoRidesAustralia 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff, just getting into dirty stuff myself, learning heaps! Thanks 😀👍
@darvelbidenisapuppet7275
@darvelbidenisapuppet7275 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Videos. I remember the moment I relaxed my grip and said to myself if I wreck I wreck, Well I didn't wreck and found my confidence in the sand patches that appear on the trails I ride. Haven't tried feathering my rear break yet. I will think about that next time.
@freiheut
@freiheut 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the Most helpful I‘ve found here so far. 🏍💚👍
@fabiomonteiro3697
@fabiomonteiro3697 4 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the best for me ! Great job !
@aloncr1796
@aloncr1796 5 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST DUO EVER. Awesome video brother. 👏👏👏
@danieldalitz6530
@danieldalitz6530 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I had seen it some weeks before. Yesterday I had my first deep sand experience and I reminded your tipps about. And...it works well!!! Your channel is the best!
@MOTOTREK
@MOTOTREK 5 жыл бұрын
Great news, Daniel!
@w.c.dogside1204
@w.c.dogside1204 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Awesome collaboration!
@brianmiller270
@brianmiller270 6 жыл бұрын
Love to see the collab with Ryan! More please.
@zaetathe_
@zaetathe_ 6 жыл бұрын
The most important thing about sand is learning to read it; then you shift your weight and get ready to flow with the bike. I ride in sand basically constantly here in East Texas. Learn to read when a rut or groove is going to push your front is number one. Second is putting your weight back (almost over you passenger seat; yes, WAY back) in straight lines/gently curves and moving very far forward in corners/berms (think motocross cornering).
@rhllnm
@rhllnm 5 жыл бұрын
I hate sand too. I'm in NM and have learned to expect sand where arroyos cross the road, with sand washing down onto the road. Sometimes big long sections. I'll cross 2 or 3 of them and come upon a big ugly one, and then it's like, screw it, the last thing I want to do is to turn around and have to go back through them all! My last batch was eroded tuff near Cuba, NM - essentially volcanic ash. It was like baby powder. My foot just vanished into it when I walked out to see how deep it was. Oh yeah, and it totally dried my chain out after about 100 yards of it.
@peterbrophy9442
@peterbrophy9442 6 жыл бұрын
Really cool to see you guys hook up. Met Ryan a few times in Montreal. Real stand up guy and fun to ride with.
@richardd1350
@richardd1350 6 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up for the Ryan cameo
@knshield9684
@knshield9684 6 жыл бұрын
You guys have unleashed the power of the engineer gone adventure rider mind! I really appreciate the explanation of this "phenomena". I have learned on my mountain bike, as I down hill a sketchy spot, to let the bike roll and let it dance in your hands "light hands, light feet". This gives me confidence to trust it. I guess i'm NOT just lucky! guess I should stop playing the lottery after a successful ride! Thanks again. Great tips!
@Brianmoto49
@Brianmoto49 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job once again..well done .. well explained
@philbullen6645
@philbullen6645 6 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of how to ride on sand I've seen so far - Thank you!
@kaykay8686
@kaykay8686 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see Ryan on the video. Both of you guys are great. Cheers!!
@markwivell1817
@markwivell1817 6 жыл бұрын
Mug of tea, toast and marmalade, whilst watching a great Mototrek video= Perfect breakfast for me. Thanks for the upload.
@bstadele
@bstadele 6 жыл бұрын
great video , useful . great collaboration and love those slow mo shoots . GREETINGS FORM SANDY FLORIDA
@mikemitchell3889
@mikemitchell3889 6 жыл бұрын
Bret, I ride an Africa Twin, so I follow you (and the oh-so charming-and-technical Ryan/Fortnine) regularly. I saw a Sporty in your office during your phone cut, and it prompted me to comment. My other car is a "Road King," and while traveling today, coming through a small town, I found myself on a road that was undergoing re-surfacing, and they had scraped the old tarmac off, leaving Ines akin to rain grooves, parallel, but squiggling at Radom departure angles. The grooves were not linear. I found myself using your sand technique by letting the bike self correct, using a light-touch on the bars. What a leap of faith -- the bike, with my large arse on it exceeds 1000 lbs. The epiphany was like a light-bulb over my helmet, and turned "snake-creepy" into, "Wow, I just learned something!" It's fortuitous that your subject, today, was spot-on pertinent to todays experience. Nice to be affirmed by a rider as talented as you. Thank-You, Mike
@solusquinto3086
@solusquinto3086 5 жыл бұрын
Simply great content all over the place!
@samuelmandarelli2645
@samuelmandarelli2645 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I’ve been riding for 52 years and I find that most of the techniques discussed… are the way I already ride… but if I had to explain them or teach them… I couldn’t do it because I don’t really realize what or how I’m doing it… it’s just the way I’ve learned to ride over a life time of… learning to ride. Your delivery is exceptional. I’d love a chance to ride with you.
@rc2634
@rc2634 6 жыл бұрын
great as always it was very cool to see ryan in your video!!! nice move!!
@moecho73
@moecho73 2 жыл бұрын
Bret, thank you so much for always reminding us of the positive attitude 🙃 Your videos are super helpful 💪
@weekendwarriorT7
@weekendwarriorT7 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid to wake up to.. Thanks B&R!
@blackbirdrider2
@blackbirdrider2 5 жыл бұрын
I used to ride a 1100xx blackbird, but due to soreness in shoulders and back ( ok it’s an age thing )I purchased a Triumph Tiger 1200. Awsome bike and so comfortable. I am getting a lot out of these videos and so much to learn. I wish these guys were out here in Australia. Thanks 😁
@ionbusman2086
@ionbusman2086 Жыл бұрын
Awesome tips. Rode a 300 Honda in the sand for the first time. Frankly my first time off-road…. Did pretty well but was scary! Only dumped it once ;). Can’t wait to ride again! Will remember some of these tips!
@SkatRadioh
@SkatRadioh 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see both of you on the same video. I’m consistently alternating your videos!
@movem1
@movem1 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown. Will save this and share with my buddies
@evenlucky
@evenlucky 3 жыл бұрын
that surprise collaboration just made my day
@MOTOTREK
@MOTOTREK 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that, Steven!
@fortheloveofknobs
@fortheloveofknobs 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Brett! Very helpful.
@HugoFerreira24photo
@HugoFerreira24photo 6 жыл бұрын
Hey bret :) This video was right on time! My deepest fear off road is sand! Even yesterday, on a known trail, they filled a part with sand! The bike automaticly started squirming! I didn't enjou that patch at all! From you video, seems like I have to go back there and practice! Thank you for the videos.
@nsrlegaltech
@nsrlegaltech 6 жыл бұрын
Hugo Ferreira yep all mates on mid ADVs say just blast thru ... me on Tiger 955 .. glad i found this ..tired of picking up Tiger. Love Ryans guest spot!
@wileytw55
@wileytw55 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Wish i would have seen it a couple of weeks ago before I found myself in some deep sand in the middle of nowhere in SW Montana. Had a hell of a time getting through it and probably wouldn't have if it weren't for a couple guys in a truck that were behind me and picked me up several times. Before i watched this, i would've thought it impossible to get through that crap.
@marcelschlebos3975
@marcelschlebos3975 6 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for your videos, Big smile from the Netherlands.
@NickAchterhoek
@NickAchterhoek 6 жыл бұрын
These slow-mo's are pieces of art!
@jaypuck6912
@jaypuck6912 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Did a lot of deep sand last summer in Colorado. Found myself in a spot where the sand went on and on and on and... for hundreds of feet. I knew enough to know I didn't want to stop and I got through it, but it wasn't fun. I didn't hate it, but it definitely wasn't fun. I'll go back there when the snow is gone and practice, practice, practice.
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