Same. My max HR was tested at 200. I started jogging recently after not doing anything other than occasional sprints for a long time and masically 1 mile of my absolute slowest jog i get to 180 BPM. I spend about 3 seconds in zone 2 lol

@@JBTearney Ive never had Max HR tested specifically, but reason to believe its relatively high. That said, after a few weeks of regular running(the little i'm capable of), noticed peaking lower, staying in 160s for exteneded period, rather than drifting up. So...def responds to training.

@@mjrtensepian1727 yeah I’m progressing but I keep running faster and so the heart rate just gets to that high zone anyway. I got to 190 today on a mile. Granted I beat last weeks mile pace by 2 minutes so I prob need to chill out and take it slower lol. I’ve started doing some 200 and 400 sprints also. I have seen a slight decrease in the rate when i lift weights already.

My RHR is 200. Beat that. I'll collapse everytime I climb 1 flight of stairs

Exactly I've been running for years and never see like 120 bps.. More likely 140-150 area.. WTF these guys smoking.. 80 bps that's heartbeat when you watching TV.

​@@skybiz4520 Agree. I'm in my 30s and quite fit but never be able to keep my HR at 140s zone after running more than 2km. Really jealous with these guys

​@@skybiz4520 that's what I'm confused about. My resting heart rate is low, but as soon as I start running I'm at 130-140, and I don't feel tired at all I can sustain it

And then there‘s me havin a constant heart rate of 170-180 for 10km

@@SWiSSlLiX same, I'm 160-170 whether it's a 8kph supposed zone 2 jog, or a steady 11kph on a 5k. Hearts just all or nothin

Yes! I miss the "helloeverybody!"

That's his signature,I miss it too "Hello everybody, welcome back to the channel".

Helloooeverybod-eeeeee! Agreed - It was such a wholesome intro!

The best time was when Sarah beat Ben to the intro 🤣

The people have spoken Ben 🤣

Congrats to you!! That's awesome. Stories like that keep me going. I had a minor heart attack at 42 years old due to a rare blood pressure issue. My cardiologists have signed off on my ultras specifically because I keep it low intensity, and the benefits far outweigh any risks. I can only hope for a pace like yours, especially at a low HR!!

@@Kelly_Ben thank you. I still do sessions in training and take the risk ! I’m aiming for a 4:50 mile this summer .

Is there an upper limit to the heart rate with a pacemaker? is it dangerous to do activities that require a high heart rate?

@@H0A0B123 generally no to both questions. A very low heart rate 20-30 bpm which I had carries a higher risk of a stroke. My max heart rate now is around 150. Heart’s recover well if people are sensible and take exercise increases incrementally

@@DavidBlack-ki5fc I see. our ranges are very different. For me an easy jog (~9km/h) brings my heart rate to 155. When I started I couldn't even jog without my heart rate going into the 180s. My max is around 205 bpm.

In the meantime, others who train at a higher intensity will be seeing the same or bigger improvements in a much shorter time period. People love to be told that they can reap benefits without working hard, which is why Z2 training has become so popular. It's applicable to elite marathon runners who train for several hours per day, not to the hobby jogger who does the occasional 10k or HM and runs for 2-3 hours per week.

@@thegearboxman To be fair, if it helps people to be motivated to only run in Z2 for 10k, they'd still be healthier than not running, because it seems too exhausting for them^^

@@MuchlovetheOne That's a very fair point, anything is better than nothing, but my issue is that KZfaq is awash with people selling Z2 as an easy route to get faster, and it's simply untrue beyond the world of elites who are actually running 150 miles per week as opposed to joggers doing 20 miles per week.

@@thegearboxman so basically, best way to gain result consistently and efficiently is to mix in interval/sprint days, not just steady-state zone 2 jogging sessions right? I've been jogging a few months slowly and comfortably can do for 2 hours or so but I keep suffering at the 8min/km mark, my body literally can't do 7min/km.

​@@IarukaSkYouk First of all, plenty will disagree with what I'm about to say, but this zone-2 low intensity fad is not really applicable to most recreational runners who have progressed beyond the beginner stage. Zone-2 has it's place if you're doing very high volumes and need to avoid injury. It's also an essential starting point for absolute beginners. However, if all you ever do is zone 2 jogging then all you will get good at is running at that pace for longer. To run *faster* for longer (that's what we all want isn't it?) then you have to do sufficient training at higher intensity, and some of that training has to be at a pace that's faster than your target race pace. Running faster for longer requires a higher VO2max and, probably more importantly, a higher lactate threshold. Lactate threshold can be thought of as the point where your body tells you you can't go much faster without feeling ill. You're not going to push these two metrics by shuffling along at a snails pace. The body will not make the necessary adaptations to push LT unless it needs to, and if you don't push beyond the current limit then the limit will stay the same and you won't get faster. I'm not suggesting that every run should be flat out because that would probably result in injury, but several proper scientific studies have pretty much proven that higher intensity training results in bigger gains for less time. The key thing is the amount of time you spend training. If you have the time to run for a couple of hours every day (that excludes most people) then absolutely do most of it in Z2, but if all you have is 2 hours per week or less then spending most (or all) of that time in Z2 doesn't allow sufficient time at higher intensity and any gains will just level off after a few months. Consistency is also very important. There's no point in only doing a high intensity session every once in a while because that won't drive adaptations either, it needs to be a regular thing, at least a couple of times per week. As soon as you progress beyond the beginner stage (where big gains usually come quite easily after 2-3 months), then training to get faster becomes bloody hard and uncomfortable work, don't let anyone tell you that you can take a shortcut to speed. Different people also respond differently to training, and sadly some people don't really respond at all. It all depends on genetics, some people are naturally gifted athletes, even if they only find out later in life. For these people (I'm one of them) training brings bigger rewards because the training response is greater, and moving up a notch is easier compared to someone who struggles even at a slow pace. Good luck, but even if you don't get much faster, stick with it. Anyone who can even jog for 10 minutes without stopping is fitter than 95% of the population!

Totally agree, one should decide, wether he likes running or he likes figures.

That's great to hear! Slow/fast is completely relative to one's level of fitness, lots of elite runners run 'slow' at 3:40 min/km :D

Averaging around 190? How did you measure this? Just using your running watch, because these are not accurate enough.

@@teleroel Hi there, I used a chest strap. 192bpm was my average in this race. Even if that was not accurate, there was a 8k race 2 months ago where I averaged 188bpm. Also got a running watch that is not accurate. I used another chest strap before and it was pretty similar. Greetings! 😊

Same here. Diet works wonders.

omega 3 capsule work wonders for your heart

Yes, I live in Italy and in summer it's crazy hot. Like 38 degrees Celsius and 80% humidity. I have to walk a lot to be in zone 2.

@@amicoderozer19 yes tough. I live in North Carolina and it’s similar. Used to live in Phoenix and it would be 118 F. Love the mindset if still trying to do it in bad conditions but also gotta not die.

Its pretty common for new runners, it takes more than several months until your HR goes down while running.

Yes, this!! 😂 you think you're running easy, but your heart rate says otherwise

Depends on your HRR 😅 mine is 150, 155 bpm Is still zone 2 training for me 😂

​@@SuperCrabCraftso you have over 200 bpm max?

@@hiking2511 yep, 203

Same here. Even if I keep my pace the same and small steps to increase cadence, my HR picks up above Zone 2. I've been trying for three months now. I think my efficient cadence might be low😂

Even in Germany it its up 40* in summer. If you want to improve go as slow as it is needed to be

And her training of course!

Or don't use Strava at all

@seven_curses just take it easy - building up fitness takes time. Have you considered doing something like a couch to 5k / couch to 10k course? They can be great for building up base fitness in a well regulated manner, without overstretching yourself. They do involve a mixture of walking and running but that's a brilliant way to get into it. Don't worry about just being able to run, it will come with time.

@@andrewdhome thanks for the comment. Yeah I've tried those with some good and some mediocre results. Last time I got into a decent spot I got wiped out by covid and it was like starting from zero. Definitely just lacking some of the patience on it to be sure since I've tried it a few times and it feels like I “should” be further along. A valuable reminder though to cut myself some slack.

@@seven_curses it's really important not to overdo it and, as you say, cut yourself some slack. Doing too much, particularly after illness, will just lead to injury. Take it slowly, literally!! As an example - I'm an older runner but can just about make a 3:30ish marathon - that said, I've been ill for a couple of weeks and have just finished my first slow run - and struggled to manage 10k. My heart tells me to go out again tomorrow and try harder - but that is an urge which must be resisted. Take time, you'll get there BTW, if you have a friendly running club nearby, consider joining - they can offer great support. Good luck!

That was me, mate. You need a lab test to recheck your zones. Garmin and formulas told me that z2 max is 128 bpm, lab test showed that it is 145. Made so much sense for me ,improving ever since.

I belive that for a beginner, running 2-3 hours per week or less, you should not think about heart rate nor zones at all. Running never becomes easy, but the pace will improve!

@@user-og7jl3vd8v thanks mate, this would make sense since I shouldn't be able to sustain these higher zones for that long, so it's probably lower than I think. I'll look into it

@@tellef70 I run around 5-6h a week for now, two 5k, two 10k, and a long run between 20-30k. I didn't care much about heart rate but I kept hearing about zone 2. I'll keep going until I reach a ceiling and maybe after a while it'll make sense.

The video is a mass. He mixed hrr with max. Lvl 1 is 50 to 60% of his max (180) not of 125...