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How to Safely Cut Multiple Round Bars in a Horizontal Bandsaw

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Joe Pie

Joe Pie

Күн бұрын

Have you ever tried to cut multiple pieces of round bar in a horizontal bandsaw? A small modification to your stationary jaw and you can easily and safely cut more than one. This video shows my setup that easily cuts 5 bars at a time.Take a look.

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@jimmilne19
@jimmilne19 7 жыл бұрын
Joe, you have a talent for working with metals that is pure pleasure to observe. I learn from each of your videos and am thankful to be able to "know you" through your videos. Thanks for sharing.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that.
@ellieprice3396
@ellieprice3396 7 жыл бұрын
What a great video, and easy way to save time cutting multiple parts. Industrial strength stretch wrap works really well also to hold your bars together. Just wrap it tightly around the bars and cut it loose with a knife when it gets close to the blade.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I have some of that. I'll give it a go.
@scottburrous2375
@scottburrous2375 7 жыл бұрын
I use duct tape.
@ellieprice3396
@ellieprice3396 7 жыл бұрын
Duck tape works but stretch wrap is easier and cheaper and not sticky. Just stretch it a couple of turns around the bundle and cut it loose with a knife when it reaches the vise.
@ian9toes
@ian9toes 7 жыл бұрын
That's awesome how they self adjust to the angle of the vice. A concept worth remembering, it may be applicable somewhere else. Speaking of taking the time to make a mod that you've been thinking of for a while. I've been drilling holes in some 30mm square stock. Without setting up anything permanent on the drill press I want to drill a hole in the centre. What I did was turn a piece of aluminium to 30mm on the lathe and drill a hole in the middle to accept hardened 5mm steel salvaged from stressing cable. Now I can line up the 30mm aluminium over the stock with my fingers on either side and hit the 5mm centre punch. Alternatively I can push both stock and tool against something vertical clamped to the bench. Now I only measure the position along the stock to the edge of my new tool.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I love it when I show a concept and someone applies it elsewhere, or it gets you to thinking. I have always said, the best engineer has the most catalogs and the best memory. i built a wood doweling jig that follows your logic. ( I think ) thanks for watching.
@robertoswalt319
@robertoswalt319 7 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos. I never fail to learn something. Keep up the great work
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@RaysGarage
@RaysGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Now that"s "thinking outside the box" Joe, great solution, thanks for sharing!
@weldmaster80
@weldmaster80 7 жыл бұрын
these simple little things are what makes and breaks us. thank you for sharing!
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
It speeds things up considerably
@erikisberg3886
@erikisberg3886 2 жыл бұрын
This was really clever, best solution to this problem I have ever seen! Will use. Thanks.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Billthreex
@Billthreex 7 жыл бұрын
Joe, Thanks for showing a great way to get work done. In the job shop, time is money. Spending a little time here is saving a lot of time on the total saw time by lots. Glad you didn't use the new generation term "hack". Whenever I can set a stop, stack multiple parts, and make the setup fool proof, I'm in. I made a feeder unit for my saw (much like the ones used on hand screw machines) and it has a stop with a micro switch built into it so the saw won't start until the stock hits the stop; no accidental short pieces. I have a job with multiple parts like this coming up and I will be using your idea, making the job go so much faster. I will be in Production City! Keep on showing the smart way to do things.
@joshua43214
@joshua43214 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I have that exact same bandsaw, right down to the wire on the blade guard... It was a big expense for a hobbyist, but every time I use it am grateful I took the plunge on it.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I want to rig up a feeder, a retractable stop, and an air vise. Maybe in my spare time....
@joshua43214
@joshua43214 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see your take on a retractable stop. The factory one has an unpleasant taper to it causing the offcut to bind. I have plans to add semi-permanent jaw extensions so I have support right up to the blade. Just waiting for the right pieces of scrap to walk into the shop..
@dougbartosh5735
@dougbartosh5735 Жыл бұрын
Joe, we did this in my machine shop near Pittsburgh, Pa. We had to saw app. 1500 pieces of 5/8" dia. CRS one of my guy's found this on your page!! It worked out great!! Thank You! Doug
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. It really does work well.
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing I've ever seen that even *remotely* resembled this, is one lunatic I worked for replaced the bandsaw vise with a roller chain vise grip pipe wrench welded to the bandsaw frame. I refused to use it because I could picture my exact manner of death using it... Thanks for sharing, mate!
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen pipe thread vises setup that way. I thought it was clever, but never used one.
@mog5858
@mog5858 7 жыл бұрын
nice job. i have never seen a blade on a ban saw. having a good saw in the shop will save you big money in the long run.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Sawing and drilling. the 2 fastest ways to remove material.
@ngauge22
@ngauge22 3 жыл бұрын
Ingenuity at it's finest. Thank you
@fredgenius
@fredgenius 7 жыл бұрын
Engineering: The application of theory. Brilliant. Thanks Joe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
It really sped things up.
@michedmck
@michedmck Ай бұрын
Thanks, Joe! Keep those tips coming!!!
@joepie221
@joepie221 Ай бұрын
This one saved a BUNCH of saw time.
@dustyduds3953
@dustyduds3953 10 ай бұрын
Joe, you are brilliant. I just bought an old wellsaw model 8 and this tip is priceless.
@joepie221
@joepie221 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad to help.
@matthegedus6513
@matthegedus6513 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, Thanks for sharing all these tips. Can you talk about your work history/experience in one of your videos? I'd love to hear how you learned all this stuff. Trade school? Apprenticing? College? Also, what were some of the most challenging jobs you saw over the years, and what did you learn? Thanks.
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea and worked well. The outside box is filling up today.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
This mod was long overdue. It really delivers. Thanks for checking in.
@chucktipton9596
@chucktipton9596 7 жыл бұрын
I'll buy that for a dollar! Way to think out of the box Joe. Thanks
@pierresgarage2687
@pierresgarage2687 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, Good method and there are times when people have problems with only one at the time... ;) Cheers, Pierre
@garycullen1241
@garycullen1241 Жыл бұрын
I have to mill the ends square, on 100 pieces of 1/2" round, 1045 steel, turned, Ground and Polished rods, 15" long. . I was going to use this method to saw them to the 15" length first. Why wouldn't this work in my milling machine, to mill the ends square? The 15" dimension is not critical. I have a 6" Kurt mill vise, and I will just make another stationary fixed jaw with a stop block on it, since the original jaw is hardened. I think my jaws are 2" high so I'm going to give this a try. Just an FYI, but 7 round pieces make a circle. I cut .140 diameter pins in my small bandsaw by stretch wrapping 7 pieces together at one time. I've learned so much from you Joe! I wish I had the internet and people like you 40 years ago when I had to self teach myself machining. I did something right, because I've been in my own business making parts for the Direct Mail industry machines for 42 years and going stronger than ever!
@brucematthews6417
@brucematthews6417 7 жыл бұрын
Another great trick to squirrel away for a time of similar need. Well Done! ! ! !
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I too will keep this one handy. It worked like a charm.
@TangentJim
@TangentJim 5 жыл бұрын
I saw this video a while back -- I was impressed . Now I have the exact same circumstances that your video dictates . This is a kick ass video -- obviously I'm going to clone the setup . I think I'm going to put you on the pay roll --- tell me where to sent the checks .
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. If you can, drill your stop block off center so it can be flipped and accommodate different diameter stacks. On the off chance you're serious about being generous, forward all donations to 3850 N. Hwy 183, Liberty Hill TX 78642.
@anthonycash4609
@anthonycash4609 6 жыл бұрын
Another great common sense way to fix a problem. It seems you have the same problem I do Joe , when I lay down at night to go to sleep. Some people read a book to go to sleep some watch tv , and guess some count sheep. Me I think myself to sleep. I'm always building something or fixing something. I have come up with some of my best ideas thinking myself to sleep. Keep the wheels turning , I enjoy your way of overcoming a problem no matter how good something works you seem to come up with an improvement.
@joepie221
@joepie221 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the comment. You are spot on about the brain not shutting off. My wife would back me up on that. I go to sleep with a problem and have woken up with solutions many times. I just roll with it.
@richardbizon8620
@richardbizon8620 5 жыл бұрын
When I worked in a machine shop / sheet metal shop we cut 4 pieces at a time. The bandsaw was similer to yours. Some times the parts kicked out and I had to stop it quickly. What you showed would of saved the headaches ang gotten 5 instead of only 4. Wish I would of known your trick back than. Thanks
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 7 жыл бұрын
Why is it Joe that every time i watch one of your videos i end up scratching my head and think to myself "why didn't i think of that " ! I am now thinking of doing something like that to my saw but i am thinking of mounting some 1" sq x 2" long steel blocks to the back of the fixed jaw that have a 5/8 hole bored though them to allow some 5/8 bar to be locked in with some cap screws giving two vertical posts . The anti lift plate would have a similar set up allowing it to slide up or down then locked to the required height . Just set it up with a suitable packer to give the required height or maybe an adjustable parallel then lock it up and chop away . Thanks for the video and the inspiration Joe !
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I like it when I throw out a concept and it inspires other thought. Thats real 'think tank' results. Good luck.
@fredparkhouse
@fredparkhouse 7 жыл бұрын
great idea joe. so simple it hurts
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Now I just have to get a better way of securing the last 8 inches. I really hate tape residue on my material.
@RussZHC
@RussZHC 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe the metal banding used to strap items to pallets? Long hose clamps may work too... The other things I have tried with rounds are an angle open to the round but with a bolt through that can "float" if that makes any sense (the angle moves but can't detach so there is always pressure somewhere), a bolt through heavy wall square tube clamped in the vise with whatever round tube inside the square tube (just need a single pressure point to hold the rounds) and a single horizontal bolt through the movable jaw near where the blade cuts so you can effectively clamp really short pieces.
@rickswazey9472
@rickswazey9472 3 жыл бұрын
Just need to add a stop like on the mill! Thanks for all you share with the world.
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 7 жыл бұрын
Truly inspired Joe :-) Wish I had that much brass stock!
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I got a 12 foot bar 1 1/4" dia and nearly passed out when I went to lift it. This stuff is heavy. I plan to make my field gun (cannon) with the bar ends and left overs.
@worthdoss8043
@worthdoss8043 7 жыл бұрын
Joe I'm a dollar short and a day late as usual. Make half round jaws for your band saw that are about the same size as the bundle you are trying to cut.' They will clamp together and hold the round stock. You can make them by splitting lengthwise SCH 80 pipe of any size you want. Another option is a diamond pattern set of jaws more or less two big angle iron jaws coming together. As long as the gaps between the jaws aren't bigger than the bar stock they will hold tight. I know you get the idea. Worth
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I like it.
@CalvinEdmonson
@CalvinEdmonson 6 жыл бұрын
That makes sense.
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 7 жыл бұрын
In addition to ensuring the stop is smaller than the diameter of the stock, it is probably a good idea to also make sure the stop sticks out at least the radius of the stock, just to eliminate the potential for the top piece to roll over the stop.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
7/8 material, 3/4 block material. But realistically, the material would have to lift to jump the stop and under pressure, that's unlikely.
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I think your setup works great. I was more thinking of a guideline for the viewers that are going to try a similar setup. As a rule of thumb, I thought a good safe minimum for any setup is at least the radius and maximum is the diameter. I know that there is a minimum height the stop needs to be in relation to the material to hold it securely, and it is somewhere less than the radius. Could be figured out with trig. Essentially, since you have circles, you draw a line through the centers of the top circles on the left and right, extended to the fixed jaw. You then draw another one perpendicular to this. Any stop that is shorter than the distance between this line and the fixed jaw will allow the material to roll out. Kinda like how there is a point where a bearing has just enough clearance for the balls to stack up on one side and poop the bed.
@pwpia5461
@pwpia5461 7 жыл бұрын
Like the idea...I would tap some 3/8-16 holes along the top edge of your stop block to allow for different material sizes....using some fully threaded jack screws for the now adjustable stop...I know you already knew this....don't forget jammer-nut...LOL
@jamesnoonan2242
@jamesnoonan2242 7 жыл бұрын
Great trick, thanks for sharing AND explaining!
@louisnemick317
@louisnemick317 7 жыл бұрын
Very smart idea Joe.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
It worked very well.
@davidaarons2488
@davidaarons2488 7 жыл бұрын
Cool Joe, nice saw and a smart idea. After a hour or two your going to dream brass round cut offs lol . Thanks for tip. God Bless Ya Dave
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I did. Now I have to machine them all.
@ScottGMerritt
@ScottGMerritt 7 жыл бұрын
Love your work, again. Thanks!!!!!
@jbrownson
@jbrownson 2 жыл бұрын
clever, love a simple creative solution like this
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын
glad I watched a second time.....Thanks Joe, Paul in Florida.....
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Paul.
@DUCKS2525
@DUCKS2525 7 жыл бұрын
Great Idea! Thanks a lot for your time and content! Your awesome!!!
@per.kallberg
@per.kallberg 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tip! An idea that came to mind was a pice with a slot milled in to it on the fixed side and a pice with a thru slot milled on the moving side. Then you can have a pice of flat stock in the milled pockets and fit how ever many round bars you can fit in your saw. Just stack them the same way you did.
@EZ_shop
@EZ_shop 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool Joe!
@emilbader1524
@emilbader1524 7 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for the tip. I've learned a lot from what you do. Keep on keeping on.
@DCT_Aaron_Engineering
@DCT_Aaron_Engineering 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip, thanks for sharing ;-)
@armdaMan
@armdaMan 6 жыл бұрын
Another one of Your superb ideas Cap'n. Tremendous. Thanks always for showing and sharing. ATB aRM
@GOAP68
@GOAP68 3 жыл бұрын
Still using this tip today. Have (16) 12' round stock to cut 3.5" at a time. Thank you.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
This will speed things up for you.
@GOAP68
@GOAP68 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Pieczynski It does! I put blocks on both jaws. Allows me to cut (8) at a time in a 3-2-3 configuration. This also makes the bundle a rectangle which sits well on the infeed rollers.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
@@GOAP68 Outstanding. Thanks for the trust.
@ryanb1874
@ryanb1874 2 жыл бұрын
Would a 5 spot like this allow easy roll feading, or would someone have to torque it at the end since the rolls wouldn't contact everything at the bkttom?
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanb1874 Bound securely at the trailing end, it may have a tendency to flop, but it will roll on the support tower just fine. I clamped a piece of stock at an angle between the end uprights of a rolling cart and used that for this job. Solved both problems.
@johnbodmer5645
@johnbodmer5645 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea Joe, thanks.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Just too many parts to cut. I had to try it. It worked well.
@brianwalk108
@brianwalk108 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!! Thanks so much for sharing!
@Marzy5821
@Marzy5821 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip Joe ~
@garysmith9772
@garysmith9772 7 жыл бұрын
I was more impressed with the outboard set up on the cart in the way you have that bundled
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about putting inverted angle iron on the floor and rigging up a sliding trolley. In my spare time.
@brucec954
@brucec954 7 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. I've been thinking of making new vise jaws that would allow me to hold short pieces better (ie closer to the blade) and this would also be a good addition to a new design. Most H band saws seem to have just enough of a vise so they can say they have one but seems no one has put much thought into it.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I keep blocks along side my saw for just that reason. Just be sure to put a spacer part on the opposite end of your blocks so they dont squeeze unevenly. You can get right up to the blade that way.
@infoanorexic
@infoanorexic 7 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. That should work with other types of saws as well. Now if we can figure out a way to make them adjustable to work with varied sizes of material without having to change them each and every time the material size changes. I've already got an idea on that, but describing it would be a long, drawn out process... and I've probably over complicated it already
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I plan to really look this one over. I put the holes in my block off center so I could flip it over and use it for smaller diameter material. It may actually work better with a bigger gap. I look forward to messing with it.
@denny9931
@denny9931 7 жыл бұрын
You could lift the lowest part with a rectangular spacer to make up the difference between 3/5/7... x diameter and your jig. Therefore rise the odd side up to the stop and keep the self locking and aligning of the stock. It´s a neat trick, as even when the parts have a modest difference in diameter, they will still self-align on 3 lines each (jaw and 2 other parts). As long as there is no bow in the stock after snugging up. So actually, the more gap you leave on the odd side, the better the jig will tolerate differences in diameter. But it must be allowed to slide, so that the smallest diameter is still pushed with the same force as the largest diameter on the even side.
@James-fs4rn
@James-fs4rn 6 жыл бұрын
genius as always Joe! thanks for sharing
@stephensmith8756
@stephensmith8756 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Great tip, thank you !! Best regards from Albion Park, NSW, Australia
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Greetings back at ya from Austin Texas. Thanks for watching.
@srinivask6085
@srinivask6085 6 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. Will certainly give this a try. Thanks for posting.
@joepie221
@joepie221 6 жыл бұрын
Be sure to leave a gap in the 3 high stack so the 2 bars will self center. This works very well.
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Joe, thanks for sharing
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Musicalbullet
@Musicalbullet 7 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@glenndavis2762
@glenndavis2762 7 жыл бұрын
nice. I've frequently used electrical tape stretched around the bundle every two feet or so and cut - then I go and add another band of tape and repeat.
@haroldtweeten7795
@haroldtweeten7795 6 жыл бұрын
If you would make your lip a angle iron and slot the holes horizontal you would be able to use your mod for multiple sizes of pipe
@joepie221
@joepie221 6 жыл бұрын
The holes in my bar are off center so I can have 2 positions. Slots and angle iron would be a very functional setup. Good idea.
@jeffreylehn8803
@jeffreylehn8803 7 жыл бұрын
great idea!
@mikenixon9164
@mikenixon9164 7 жыл бұрын
Good idea .
@bfflorida2311
@bfflorida2311 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea..thanks Joe!!!👍
@avgjoe8540
@avgjoe8540 7 жыл бұрын
hey Joe. love your videos and appreciate you spending your time to make them ,and help others like myself to learn some tricks of the trade. an idea for a video ! maybe drilling on a lathe, vs using reamers and boaring etc. differences​ plus and minus of one vs the other ?. just a thought. I picked up a OLD South bend 9 ! and have been learning how to properly use it, as a hobby..and some gun smithing work. thanks again for your time and effort with all the videos!!
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Thats a good suggestion. Stay tuned.
@johnhubbard3399
@johnhubbard3399 5 жыл бұрын
I used to do this same thing with aircraft tubes we had anywhere from 4 to 10 or 12 stacked up pending on the diameter only we tack welded the ends.
@russruss123rv
@russruss123rv 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I’m in the middle of cutting right now, cutting 16 1” tubes at a time, wish I had an automatic saw though 😊 It was a neat surprise to see your post on KZfaq, I never see anyone I know posting 👍
@Dr_Do-Little
@Dr_Do-Little 5 жыл бұрын
Short, sweet and efficient. What can you ask more?
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 жыл бұрын
I had several hundred of these to cut. This setup saved my day. and my back.
@freddepauw
@freddepauw 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, will work well in my shop !!
@thomasjeffersoncry
@thomasjeffersoncry 2 жыл бұрын
I clamp 4 bars together with c clamps, on the sides and the top and bottom. Works great
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 7 жыл бұрын
It is always better to work smart than to work hard.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@notsofresh8563
@notsofresh8563 7 жыл бұрын
Working hard is for the feeble minded.
@scottburrous2375
@scottburrous2375 7 жыл бұрын
I work really hard trying to make it easier, sigh.
@ianjoubert7505
@ianjoubert7505 7 жыл бұрын
thank you Joe
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@yannkitson116
@yannkitson116 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@4SafetyTraining
@4SafetyTraining 4 жыл бұрын
Nice and thanks for the Safety.
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Joe...
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@markd6777
@markd6777 Жыл бұрын
very smart Joe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Works well.
@21anthem12
@21anthem12 7 жыл бұрын
You're hired. 😉
@arichardson46
@arichardson46 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, you are not just a pretty face.👌👌👌
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Been telling my wife that for years. Thanks.
@BoxOfGod
@BoxOfGod 4 жыл бұрын
You mister just saved me 7 trillion dollars and BDP of a whole nation. I'm doing that on monday.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very good trick. Good luck.
@paulmorrey733
@paulmorrey733 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea Thanks Joe
@brianevans1946
@brianevans1946 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip, thank you so much for sharing..
@PhilsProjects
@PhilsProjects 7 жыл бұрын
nice solution
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil.
@stoparret
@stoparret 7 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant.
@cavemansmancave9025
@cavemansmancave9025 7 жыл бұрын
You card. 😂 Thanks, John
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Like the ending did ya?
@cavemansmancave9025
@cavemansmancave9025 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did. 🤣 Thanks, John
@tfp777
@tfp777 7 жыл бұрын
Very clever
@michedmck
@michedmck Ай бұрын
Great vid! If 5, then why not 6? The back one will push and spread the next two, which in turn would lock the front 3 in place. Maybe? I'm going to try it!!
@joepie221
@joepie221 Ай бұрын
I think any pyramid shape should work. But be careful not to pop the center level out.
@steveclark..
@steveclark.. 7 жыл бұрын
Nice tip Joe, do these more expensive bandsaws actually cut straight & square? The cheap one I have is a bit hit and miss on that front, I'm guessing that they will never be that accurate compared to a lathe/mill though??
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I can cut 1/32" wide shims on 2" diameter stainless all day. A saw can't compete with a lathe or mill, but this one gets the job done. I have one of the $99 4 x 7 bandsaws. It works, but you get what you pay for.
@TXShelbyman
@TXShelbyman 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I wonder if you could have tapped the stationary jaw and then slotted the piece that rest on top of your work. The would allow you to cut several different sizes.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I like your comment. That stop bar on my stationary jaw is drilled and pinned off center. You can reverse it and it allows for a new range of diameters to be held. Good call.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, I am assuming [with all attendant dangers] that you removed your stop fence for clarity in this video. A stop fence is the first and most useful of additions to any cut off saw or band saw.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
At 5:41 I explain the only change to the machine.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
If the stop fence you speak of is a continuation of the rear jaw outside the blade, this machine never came with one. I moved the material cutoff stop down out of the way as well.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын
No, I meant a stop fence on the camera side of the blade for accurately measuring the length of rod material to be cut.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Its positioned down and out of the way. The parts bind after cutting them off, so Its lowered.
@brianwalk108
@brianwalk108 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance ce you could stick a bundle of round stock in a lathe chuck and face them at once? Good idea? Bad idea? Why or why not? Thanks Joe!
@ryanb1874
@ryanb1874 2 жыл бұрын
Probably have to use bundling strap and make a jig, on the mill, to by bundle a hexagon
@copasetic216
@copasetic216 7 жыл бұрын
Great concept. You seem to have a great sense for work holding across the board. Much appreciated. Just curious, do you know off the top of your head what kind of coolant that you're using there? It's so vibrantly blue, never seen that before. Thanks
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Trim sol water soluable
@copasetic216
@copasetic216 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheRealFOSFOR
@TheRealFOSFOR 7 жыл бұрын
This might just work with pipes too... could save some time in my job. Wonder how easy it would be to build a trolley that slides on a couple of angle irons.. I mean how to attach the angle irons to the floor and to level them up. Would be perfect in our small shop.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
It would. Use a finer tooth blade for the pipe unless its really heavy wall.
@christurley391
@christurley391 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing you need now is the identical type clamp on a tail end trolley. 🖒
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
If I did this to both jaws, I could bump up to 8 pieces at a time. The initial setup would be heavy, but it would be fast.
@usmcbrun1
@usmcbrun1 7 жыл бұрын
if you could make the block you added adjustable for different diameters of stock that would be cool..either way genius haha
@usmcbrun1
@usmcbrun1 7 жыл бұрын
I guess I missed that part..
@culmalachie
@culmalachie 7 жыл бұрын
Foo! never knew all that - having seen / read blurb from steel stockists with illustrations showing cutting multiples AND when choosing new blades - was aware of the practice - I've had to pad stock to gain clearance because of existing fitments to the stock - not seating properly in the jaw and have come across this . NOTE I have a Fendo 250A Super. It's Blade runs in reverse to yours - ie it is pulled along the TOP. Will I be correct in saying that the fixture should be made to the other side of the Jaw?. Great stuff!
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Whichever side you are going to have the greater number of parts, block that side. The blade pressure / direction will just add integrity to the stack that way.
@culmalachie
@culmalachie 6 жыл бұрын
There's ALWAYS one, isn't there! - me today: - your Blade is running BACKWARDS! - well I have a Fendo and unlike most, it runs opposite to yours and the Vice is Self-Centreing . I have seen Blades advertised for cutting bundles and part of the reasoning for Bundles is to do with the TPI and thin X-Sections. I have some Large Dia very Hard Chrome and then smaller sections Mild Steel to cut - It's quite a Fuss to be changing Blades all the time apart from Cost - Cost hast to be accepted , I guess - part of doing the job - like set-up time. Hadn't thought of Modifying the Vice like yours, but we use scrap bars to wedge the work piece . Certainly, now I will go ahead and make a Top Lock. Have you done a video on Setting up Bandsaws, discussing TPI etc ? My Pet issue is- How to accurately cut Steel sections to Length and angle, - the Blade wants to Creep off the Square! I end up running around the Yard in frustration :-) THanks for keeping us THINKING
@jeffreylewis145
@jeffreylewis145 7 жыл бұрын
I use DRO and Mitutoyo calipers so my accuracy is there in my tools. About 95% of my work is within 0.002. But sometimes something weird happens and I find myself about 0.020 off at the end of the job. I have a machine shop here on a plantation so most of my jobs are one of a kind. Sometimes I suspect an end mill is off spec but have never found one to be more than 0.002 off. (Name brands by the way). The tram of my vise gets off despite having it very tight. Kurt has a CNC vise with four bolts that I have considered switching to. Do you think that would be better at staying true?
@andrewbishop7066
@andrewbishop7066 7 жыл бұрын
nice one
@10223220
@10223220 7 жыл бұрын
Cool trick I like it.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Its much faster. My mind is running on how to cut 10 at a time now.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын
Now now do go getting greedy, you know that only ends in tears;)
@usmcbrun1
@usmcbrun1 7 жыл бұрын
that's pretty bad ass...
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reed. It worked really well.
@nickbedard1623
@nickbedard1623 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe - Appreciate all the videos. By any chance do you have the part number for the pivoting blade guard off your saw? My Jet model doesn't have one and need to retrofit one to it before student use.
@dneufellbatman
@dneufellbatman 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe !I use Vice grip chain clamp tool.....works pissa :)Dean
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
That 6th part under my hose clamp would serve that well. I should buy one.
@joshward7896
@joshward7896 7 жыл бұрын
I use a chain vise grip all the time. With steel I weld the ends together.
@bertjetolberg103
@bertjetolberg103 7 жыл бұрын
Josh Ward thats exactly what i do i mostly work with stainless
@ronaldhetz1152
@ronaldhetz1152 7 жыл бұрын
Josh Ward and
@mikemoore9757
@mikemoore9757 7 жыл бұрын
One question Joe. Why are you wet cutting brass? I would think it would be easier to handle several hundred pieces if you don't have to clean the coolant off of them prior to any secondary operation.
@RGSABloke
@RGSABloke 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, as my physics teacher would say 'Don't try to fight physics, work with it, because it Will become your friend'. This is a great illustration of his words. Any thanks for sharing young man. Kindest regards. Joe.
@joepie221
@joepie221 7 жыл бұрын
I'll cut more today and do away with the coolant. I just keep that on all the time to prolong the blade life.
@tek4
@tek4 7 жыл бұрын
cool deal bud!
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