I am occasional, amateur skipper (mostly inland day sailing). I sometimes take on inexperienced crew. I found that running a bit of training before taking off and doing one or couple man overboard drills goes a long way relieving tension, feeling them safer and setting them to have fun time. And I admit, the same goes for me -- every successful man overboard drill gives me that little important boost of confidence. As to Pepe, for him to behave a little more realistically I tie to him 5L jug filled with sand and water. People in water cannot be taken on board while traveling at any speed. I also don't take most easy to spot thing so that people get how important it is to keep the eye on the person. As to starting the engine, I think you always have to start the engine but frequently it is much faster to complete the manoeuvre under sail. Especially if you have a puny overboard engine like I have that sometimes isn't enough to overcome the wind. If I trust the crew to drop the sail quickly at exact point I need them I will assign one person to start the engine but otherwise complete the manoeuvre under sail. If I am not sure of the crew I will get one tack done at a distance that will give me a bit of time for them to drop the sail and I will complete it using just the engine. I would also complete it using just the engine if I have very small crew so that I have somebody ready to receive man over board and not busy with handling the sail (remember, I am steering, somebody is an Eye, somebody is starting/handling the engine, two people are needed to handle sails effectively... that's already quite resource intensive operation). As to recovering at the beam -- on most boats of that size it is impossible to recover an actual human at the beam. And not sure what that boathook is supposed to accomplish. Use it as a harpoon so the person can't swim away? I would be worried to have a crew member to wave a hook close to a person in the water because of possibility for injury and because it is not entirely clear what to do afterwards. Additionally, if there is any SNAFU with sails, the bow might not be a safe place to be in in the first place. I think the training should reflect a realistic situation as much as possible and the crew should know how to take on a realistic person and on that kind of yacht it will inevitably happen at the stern. Another reason to do it at the stern is that I, the skipper, have perfect view of what is happening and that makes it easier to make decisions and/or directly help with the effort.
@NautilusSailing2 жыл бұрын
Some great points Leonard! Appreciate the feedback... We always encourage our students to practice these drills when they head out, so that they are prepared for a real emergency situation.... You are right about trying to retrieve someone from the beam of the boat, that this is not ideal. We make contact from the beam of the boat, and then try and get the victim around to the stern, where it is much easier to get them aboard.
@Baby4Melancholie3 ай бұрын
Close Reach/Close Hauled: go on a Beam Reach course for no more than two boat-lengths and then get your nose trough the wind. Keep the Genoa windwards and you'll slowly drift to the Person. Broad Reach/Running: also go on a beam reach cause for no more than two boat lengths, then get your nose though the wind. When the wind comes from straight ahead, pull your main sheet tight, then also keep your Genoa windwards. Again, drift to the person.
@NautilusSailing21 күн бұрын
Yes, you're describing the quick stop method, works great and we teach that especially on a catamaran. You basically get to windward and heave to.
@oday35142 жыл бұрын
I have taught ASA Classes for several years at several ASA affiliate schools, and taught US/Sailing at one school. I have taught the FIgure-8, BRCR, and Quickstop methods at all of them. The secret that few instructors divulge is that COB drills are really about learning boat handling. This video presents the most accurate instruction of how to handle a real COB situation. When I teach COB, I tell students that we are going to *pretend* that there is no working engine aboard. However, I also tell them that if this were a REAL COB, and you have inexperienced sailors aboard, start the engine and drop the sails. Stop the engine when you have made contact with the COB and are about to begin retrieval. Sailing 4-5 boat lengths away from the COB, tacking, steering 2 boat lengths to windward of the COB, crossing your wake, and then turning to windward, as in the Figure-8, takes too much time. If you miss the COB on your first attempt, then you have to sail around again, and that takes more time. Time is something that you do not have in an emergency. Thank you for this video!
@NautilusSailing2 жыл бұрын
Great comments and thoughts! Thanks :)
@jasonwilliams5583 Жыл бұрын
What about the time to put your sails back up when the engine stops working?
@brianmaguire681427 күн бұрын
My Guy!! Excellent!!!
@jacksprat30093 жыл бұрын
Obviously there is more than one way to do most anything on a sailboat. There's the figure 8 method, the Quick Stop method, motoring, plus others. A lot depends on the situation, crew, motor/no motor, weather, seas, experience. I'm taking ASA sailing classes, but I enjoy and appreciate learning wherever good information can be found, so thank you Nautilus Sailing for the video.
@NautilusSailing3 жыл бұрын
Well said and completely agree Jack! Glad you are enjoying the videos...
@gerrys62653 жыл бұрын
Step 1...do not rely on your motor! Step 2...practice when there is a good wind. Step 3 do not move any farther from the MOB than absolutely necessary...you may be the only one on the boat. Step 4 do not tell anyone there is only one way to do something.
@NautilusSailing3 жыл бұрын
Some great points Gerry! Yes, you are right, there are SOOOO many variables that go into determining the best way to retrieve a man overboard, that there can never be a one size fits all approach... We have done thousands of sailing drills under sail picking up a MOB and doing this under sail is extremely challenging. We find for most folks, using the motor may well be the best option, so don't rule that out!
@gerrys62653 жыл бұрын
@@NautilusSailing Hmmm, I don't find it that challenging...if they do, then they need more practice to become more competent at sailing. The challenging part is to get a wet soggy body back on board. The sailing and steering is just normal seamanship skill - like tacking and docking. I think telling people to use the motor at all is a negative thing as they should learn to sail.
@MicJej2 жыл бұрын
@@gerrys6265 much as I agree with the assessment that the motor doesn't necessarily constitute the only option, disregarding it is just plain stupid. What if you're shorthanding it in a bad sea state, for example? That's completely disregarding the panic factor, of course. Experienced or not, there are plenty of skippers that wouldn't think as well on their feet as they should in an emergency, and that's just how humans are - no amount of training can help that. All in all, while you do make a good point that approaching under sail is a valid technique, I'm under the impression that you've never actually been in an MOB situation in anything but the mildest of weathers. Either that, or you're desperate to appear to be a salty old sea dog, in which case - that kind of fighter pilot "we do it the hard way or we die" mentality is something I've never seen anyone actually experienced express.
@gerrys62652 жыл бұрын
@@MicJej I thought I said clearly that there is not just "one" way. Perhaps I stretched it a bit by suggesting we "shouldn't tell people to use their motor" because that is one way. However, I have never had to recover a body but have done plenty of drill in quite rough weather (2.5 metre seas) and successfully picked up the buoy singlehanded (40 foot ketch). It is not that difficult to that point providing you can keep your eye on the buoy - which would be easier if you only had to sail instead of going forward and lowering sails before then starting the motor. Like anything, it is a matter of practice, but is basic skill everyone (captain at least) should have if sailing with others in anything other than >10 kts wind. If you can't do that and the motor doesn't start...what then? I live in cold water locales so you don't have a lot of time to get it right.
@sitatt Жыл бұрын
Great job! Thank you for posting! Subscribed!
@NautilusSailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@BC-tp8ep7 ай бұрын
Here in NZ the general protocol is to do an emergency gybe. If you go about rather than Gybe you have a good chance of running the person over. If you muck around lowering the sails in strong weather there is a good chance you won’t find them again.
@NautilusSailing7 ай бұрын
Under sail is a different operation. The goal is to get back to them as quickly as possible. agreed taking the sails down is risky as you'll lose sight of the victim. The ASA says no gybing, the risk of the boom taking another crew member out. We teach the figure 8, or the "quick stop" method. When going upwind, you heave-to and get to windward and drift down to them, typically you're within 1 boat length when you do that.
@pamledford15412 ай бұрын
Best presentation delivered, thank you!
@woutschouten3142 Жыл бұрын
Hi Guys, Great video's for a starting Sailer like me!
Getting the unconscious 100kg mob back in strikes me as the harder part of the rescue. Especially as it's probably only me on board. I've tried using a spare main halyard to winch them in, but it really needs two people. Rescue sling?
@NautilusSailing Жыл бұрын
You're right, the recovery is a big component. Our swim step has a winch nearby and a ladder. Most good offshore life jackets have a hoist strap on them as well. Anything we can do to get them attached to the boat to begin recover is a big plus.
@ryveralexander85112 жыл бұрын
You cover a whole about sailing and safety, you should make videos and sale it too. Terminology, sail and mast type, wind formation,tools must have and etc. I hope so! Thank you for your gift of knowledge and sharing experiences. 👍💟☮️
@NautilusSailing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryver! Appreciate the great feedback and so glad you are enjoying the series. We are in the process of filming and working on a new series, with lots of extra videos, so stay tuned and keep an eye out for those videos!
@beedonn92603 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, why not just do a figure-eight with all your sales up install the boat out right on top of them? Takes a fraction of the time. And you're less likely to lose them in a chopper swell
@NautilusSailing3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bee... Agreed that it's best to not go too far from the person overboard, especially in bigger swells and heavy weather. Have you practiced the figure 8 MOB on a sailboat? It requires a couple of crew that know what they are doing, requires you to sail at least 5-7 boat lengths away to have the time and angles to complete the drill, and is challenging to complete well without running over the person in the water. For newer sails the method in the video is much safer, quicker and allows a lot more boat control.
@catspaw38152 жыл бұрын
@@NautilusSailing sales? lol
@leonardmilcin77982 жыл бұрын
Figure of eight is a horrible manoeuvre that I am shocked is being taught to people. It requires you to sail far, far away from the man overboard and do multiple tacks that may disorient the crew while your best and only chance to save the person is being aware where the casualty is at any point in time. You can't save them if you don't know where they are. For that reason I believe the training should focus on being able to execute a rather tight loop to minimise chance you are going to loose sight of the casualty.
@beedonn92602 жыл бұрын
@@leonardmilcin7798 I'm just curious where you got your sailing credential from?
@leonardmilcin77982 жыл бұрын
@@beedonn9260 From somewhere they teach actual useful knowledge and not resort to ad hominem attacks when the facts don't suit you.
@ChrisV872 жыл бұрын
Learn how to Sail: "turn on your engine and get down your sails as fast as possible". 😌
@NautilusSailing2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is ironic! There are ways to pick someone up under sail alone, but you have far less control, and for beginners this is usually more dangerous. So we "cheat" and use our engine ;)
@ChrisV872 жыл бұрын
@@NautilusSailing I understand that, and i guess in a dangerous situation it is always the better, cause safer way to go, as you said. But I was a bit disappointed when i watched the maneuver, cause I practised the rescue under sail that day on a small boat and was looking for an example of that maneuver on a bigger yacht. Anyway, thanks for the explanation, I also think your video was well done and a very good guide!
@internetposta73892 жыл бұрын
Crew overboard? Do you have a video for Man Overboard like the title of the video?
@barbarianlife Жыл бұрын
No time for political correctness. Don't mess about. Shout Man Overboard! and argue afterwards.
@Pete-qo7bv4 жыл бұрын
Was that Freddy Fender in the water???
@NautilusSailing4 жыл бұрын
Yep, he goes by many names. Freddy Fender is a new one. We call him "Pepe" in Mexico ;)
It supossed to be a body mock up well njoy the rides 80 years from now. The storm is approaching and...
@clifbrittain29725 жыл бұрын
S/B Man overboard from a motorboat.
@ppgwhereeverett44129 ай бұрын
When a man falls overboard, one should yell "MAN OVERBOARD !" When a woman falls overboard, one should yell "FULL SPEED AHEAD !!" Paul Lynde, Hollywood Squares from the seventies !
@NautilusSailing9 ай бұрын
Hey now! We love women who sail. In fact they're better and hold records for around the world expeditions.
@user-wk5lc4yl5g7 ай бұрын
This: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/it2kmNhjnM3NcnU.html is "NOT a drill" man overboard event.
@NautilusSailing7 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks for sharing this. Super scary. in force 7-8 conditions. The young man on the stern knew is job, point and keep pointing. They did this pretty quickly and that is good. I'd say a quick stop would have been doable, just tack over and heave to just to windward and they would have stayed close. But it's easier to be critical when not in the situation, not knowing the crew and the boat.
@simonparker49924 жыл бұрын
more than one minute to get to the substance
@GlobalMongrel4 жыл бұрын
Just fast forward. One would hope that this great instructional video, that someone has taken a lot of time and effort to create, would be watched a few times so that the learning objectives are really taken onboard. To the author/owner of this video. Great work!
@baylonaj5 жыл бұрын
Pepe? Not Chuck or Mitch? Did you pick him up a home depot to sand your teak and he found your liquor cabinet. Other than that good info.
@NautilusSailing5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yeah Pepe is a great chap but can't control his drinking ;)
@GlobalMongrel4 жыл бұрын
Our MOB Buoy is called Bob, because he bobs up and down on the water. 😂😂
@TheNeruallegan2 жыл бұрын
Now this is good witty HUMOR. Not pepe the latino with a drinking problem. Not funny.
@ricobennett5598 Жыл бұрын
@@GlobalMongrel aren't you worried about people calling you sexist because Bob is a 'he' ?
@GlobalMongrel Жыл бұрын
@@ricobennett5598 Nope
@ryannesbitt97832 жыл бұрын
The racism destroyed this whole video for me.
@samd9182 Жыл бұрын
I really disagree with this process. I believe some people will die if they follow this process. A simple crash tack will bring a sailing vessel upwind of the mob and immediately into irons, or at least halt the vessel from leaving the scene further. Easing the headsail for sailing back to the mob or stay in irons and allow the mob to swim to the vessel as it drifts down upon them. Some sailing yachts require a lot of time to drop sails. Starting your engine in an emergency might just pick up a rope causing the vessel to be disabled itself, making matters exponentially worse. A solution that works both in calm seas or offshore in 50knots works best in my mind. Yachtmaster Offshore with approx 30,000hrs give or take. Practice and tell me I'm wrong or right.
@NautilusSailing Жыл бұрын
Hey Sam... valid point! As you mentioned recovering a COB is incredibly subjective depending on type of boat, sea conditions, and sailing ability of the crew. These videos were designed for brand new sailors, that are just learning the ropes. We are huge fans of the "Quick Stop" method you alluded to, where one heaves to as quickly as possible. Done by sailors who really know what they are doing, this is also our favorite method. The challenge once hove to becomes how to get back to the person in the water, and that's a whole other controversial discussion!
@danielrocha9891 Жыл бұрын
What I really would like to see is the practice taking place in a situation where COB is more likely to happen. At least 20-25 knots with a sea to match and sails flogging all around.
@prafaelhernandez-arias21333 жыл бұрын
Great overview of the technique. I would revise the racist assumptions about who is our person to be rescued.
@NautilusSailing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rafael. Glad you are enjoying the videos! Our intent was never to be racist with the man overboard and I apologize if you interpreted it that way.
@btiernan3 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. I share this with my crew but have to warn them about the limited, and somewhat racist view of Mexicans.
@NautilusSailing3 жыл бұрын
Hey Benjamin. Glad you are able to share this video with your crew. It's such an important drill for everyone aboard to be aware of! Our intent was never to be racist with the man overboard and I apologize if you interpreted it that way.
@ryveralexander85112 жыл бұрын
You think all name Pepe is Mexican? Your imagination is racist! Racist, racist ,racist! Must be nice to have nothing to do, just making up something out of nothing that and look at me, 2000 century era! Look at me and racist!!
@TheNeruallegan2 жыл бұрын
Multiple people have attempted to share that yes, indeed, you using a latino named bouy with stereotypical latino features (i.e sombero) and saying that he has a drinking problem IS a racial stereotype. This is racism at play But I know that term makes a lot of white people defensive, so please just know that it IS insulting to people coming to watch your videos and perhaps you will consider changing the video or sharing that when you made this video you were unaware that this was harmful.