How to Screed for a Paver Patio | Tips from a Professional

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I Am a Hardscaper

I Am a Hardscaper

Жыл бұрын

On today's video, we discuss how to screed for a paver patio. Really this is all about setting the bedding layer to be able to lay pavers, slabs, natural stone, whatever it may be. This involves using string line to set the grades and screed bars to be able to screed for this bedding layer.
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@radchander
@radchander Жыл бұрын
How you do things and your narrative are so good. Such a valuable talent you have. Thank you s much for the videos.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Thank you
@TheRjpiper
@TheRjpiper 28 күн бұрын
It really did help. I've been out of hardscape for 15yrs, now been asked to do it again. Nice to know I won't look stupid doing it like the old trimmers schooled me 40 years ago. Here, I am just using a string line and a level
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 27 күн бұрын
haha glad it helped!
@TheRjpiper
@TheRjpiper 27 күн бұрын
In my 30s I realized softscape was way less back breaking work. We didn't have buggies. Ground floor was ( Brick Boy ) carry brick into the backyard all day.​@iamahardscaper
@TheRjpiper
@TheRjpiper 27 күн бұрын
​@@iamahardscaperwe lost our stone guy at the end of last year.l helped finish off the project, No more shaddy lake front homes to maintain 😢
@mateostabio
@mateostabio Ай бұрын
Just wanna say your videos helped me so much for my own projects and videos last summer and this summer. I can’t believe I just now get this method with the string line measurement to the screed rails. I should have done that! Lol. Second time watching this. I appreciate the details
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Ай бұрын
I’m glad the videos help!
@colterthompson6846
@colterthompson6846 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I learned a lot and hope to use it in an upcoming project.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! Hope it helps
@dhivendrannaicker6303
@dhivendrannaicker6303 Жыл бұрын
nicely done buddy, love the video!
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@FlatRoofDoctor
@FlatRoofDoctor Жыл бұрын
very very, very well explained
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JH-tc3yu
@JH-tc3yu Жыл бұрын
Nice work. Gas pipes would have been nice vs PVC I used, which follow waves in a patio base. Took a ton of work to get my compacted base super flat and perfectly graded. I also noticed that the larger your patio is, it gets way way harder. Every transition between one 10x10 section where I was screening had slight unevenness, so I ended up using more screed pipes to cover my patio base in a screeding grid, but that made moving sand around difficult etc etc. Everything was a series of tradeoffs. It's way harder than it looks! I also found the Klein digital level amazing, I could set it on a piece of straight 3" PVC or whatever I had, to ascertain grade over longer distances. My patio was about 30x20.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Definitely some challenges along the way with any project
@ncurc9766
@ncurc9766 Жыл бұрын
I agree, i used pvc on a long straight walkway. At certain angles, you can see the waves in it, and it drives me nuts, I'm doing a patio now ill definitely be using galvanized tubing
@landscaping3112
@landscaping3112 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@StuffBucketMe
@StuffBucketMe 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 5 ай бұрын
👍👍
@leafinitup1
@leafinitup1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. What’s the determining factor in using mason sand versus quarter inch gravel as a setting bed? Additionally, do you compact the setting bed before laying pavers? Thx
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
This patio was going to be laid tight. So using concrete sand allows it to come from the bottom up through the joint to meet the jointing compound. 1/4” chip doesn’t work well for tight joints.
@uppner147
@uppner147 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 ай бұрын
👍👍
@steven-tv2fe
@steven-tv2fe Жыл бұрын
Thx for your videos and podcast, I see allot of zip level uses in America. Is there a reason you don't use a laser?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
For larger projects I’d use a laser. I just find for something like this it’s easy to just use the zip level.
@LuisFerCadore
@LuisFerCadore Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! How do you recommend the finishing to be done around the perimeter. Will you just install edging and trim the excess woven fabric and cover the exposed base next the pavers area with top soil? Or will you somehow try to wrap the fabric under the edging to reduce mixing/percolation of the topsoil into the base material? Any suggestions/recommendations?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Here we cut back the fabric and installed topsoil on the exposed base. Typically I try to wrap the fabric toward the edge restraint and then install topsoil on top. But that’s easier to do when you are working with a nonwoven geotextile and pavers which are thicker than these 1” slabs.
@LuisFerCadore
@LuisFerCadore Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your detailed answer. Thanks!
@00wolf9
@00wolf9 9 ай бұрын
Screed the top base layer too👍
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 9 ай бұрын
🙌🙌
@yussuphyonamwiwindi7111
@yussuphyonamwiwindi7111 Жыл бұрын
Ilove it a lot and want to lean more about it
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brianpoe9860
@brianpoe9860 Жыл бұрын
How did you establish grade for compacted gravel? It looked like it had alot of variation. Also, this is a good vid for beginners but can you do one that is more complicated? I do many than have twists in the grade or curves including multiple shapes. Well done tho! Any thoughts to using open grade material? I hear that is the new thing.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
The same way, the variation was topped up with and compacted. Maybe should have spent more time in doing so. But a laser works best. I have a video coming out today that will somewhat deal with what you are talking about with multiple slopes, but I will definitely make a video to get into that deeper. Love open graded base. I definitely prefer it. That or synthetic base.
@laureljensen796
@laureljensen796 5 ай бұрын
Im doing 2 by 4 bluestone should I use one inch of sand like you did here or 2 inches like I read also is sand the way to go or stone dust? Its a 10 by 22 patio next to a pool so it would save quite a bit of material? I would appreciate your help? Im in CT. Great video.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 5 ай бұрын
I'd always opt for sand over stone dust. For a bedding layer I'd prefer not to go over 1.5 inches.
@TheRjpiper
@TheRjpiper 28 күн бұрын
Love all the DIY thinking their ready for this. Enjoy just the digging will make you question your decision
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 27 күн бұрын
Yeah the digging is the first thing that will have people questioning
@locust334
@locust334 10 ай бұрын
I could probably free hand that with a level. Whatever works though, we do things a bit differently in Australia. Interesting to see different methods, I have a screed coming up that is similar to that
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 ай бұрын
Some people do that here as well. I'm not good enough to eye it free hand
@locust334
@locust334 10 ай бұрын
@@iamahardscaper Your work is amazing!! and your channel too, I always want to learn more same as you. Free handing is a lot of fun. I got good at that from doing a lot of small fix ups. It can be super helpful for certain situations and although I could free hand a pad like that. It would still be quicker with the rails. I really admire your passion for your craft bud. Awesome work
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 ай бұрын
Really appreciate that!
@igorisziuganovas4306
@igorisziuganovas4306 3 ай бұрын
We also compact the bedding before screeding it and only then fit pipes/flat strips on it, leveling it with the line by digging in two pieces of flat metal as beacons at the beginning and the end of each future strip. then we put the strip's edge on the beacons and screed off some place to put it perfectly alligned and so on. Any thoughts?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. We don't like to compact the bedding layer because it is just 1" and the compaction is minimal especially when using HPB (not concrete sand), but also because when we compact the pavers we want that bedding layer to work its way up into the bottom of the joints. You wont get that same movement if it is compacted.
@igorisziuganovas4306
@igorisziuganovas4306 3 ай бұрын
the video regards that topic would be very interesting!@rdscaper
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 3 ай бұрын
In our full length we how to install pavers video we cover that, along with a couple other videos. But I could definitely make a full video on that this season
@jimcarroll5283
@jimcarroll5283 Жыл бұрын
You a damn Hardscaping Wizard Man !!!!! Thamis
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
👍👍🙏
@chrisspence3216
@chrisspence3216 Жыл бұрын
Ara ya Gonna compact the sand layer ? Looked as if the base layer wasn’t that’s level ?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Compacted once the slabs are laid
@danc952
@danc952 15 күн бұрын
Hi there! Thanks for the helpful video. Quick questions… 1). Could you use hpb for the entire screening base right down to the sub soil? 8-10” 2) if so, would you compact the hpb before laying the pavers? 3). How do you compact on top of the pavers once laid without risking breaking the pavers? Working with 1.25” granite slabs 2x3 ft Thanks
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 15 күн бұрын
1) I wouldn’t. It is only meant to be a screed layer. But I know guys that do for pedestrian traffic projects. 2) I wouldn’t do it. 3) I would definitely use a paver roller for slabs that size. Other compactors will definitely crack those slabs. Paver Roller Compactor Review kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebFhial9kpPeaZ8.html
@danc952
@danc952 15 күн бұрын
Thanks so much I appreciate the quick reply! Any idea where I might rent a ‘paver roller compactor’ in Toronto? In exploring online I’m only finding the plate compactors
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 13 күн бұрын
Ohh that’s a great question. I would call local rental companies or reach out directly to MQuip. They might rent. You can also contact Weber and Bartell Global and see if they have rental shops nearby for their rollers
@samueladams584
@samueladams584 Жыл бұрын
3/8 " is hard to find here in Florida.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve heard that it is
@RubenPacheco-mr5pr
@RubenPacheco-mr5pr 8 күн бұрын
Hey buddy.quick question.do u tamp your pavers at the very end?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 8 күн бұрын
I tamp them after sweeping in the polymeric sand with a protective pad or using a roller tamper
@tillmansr2002
@tillmansr2002 6 ай бұрын
What are used for screed rails? Is the bedding layer 1 inch? If so a 1” pipe would be too large, correct?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 6 ай бұрын
3/4" steel gas pipes. outside diameter is 1" though. they work great
@jesusdiaz5485
@jesusdiaz5485 9 ай бұрын
How did you get the base below the bedding sand to be perfectly grade and level?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 9 ай бұрын
If your using string lines, measure down from them throughout in various spots. If you have a laser level or altimeter you can use them to measure areas and top them up or rake them down.
@smthngsmthngsmthngdarkside
@smthngsmthngsmthngdarkside 9 ай бұрын
You don't. Just get it roughly level. Then obsess over the level and flatness of your sand
@runescpeplayer69
@runescpeplayer69 Жыл бұрын
What are those things you screwed into you pins?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
They are stringline collars. There may be an Amazon link in the description
@krispineda4888
@krispineda4888 Жыл бұрын
What’s the diff in using regular sand u get at Lowe’s vs concrete sand?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
If it is just regular play sand, it will not be as good for drainage. The fines will suspend and block water flow through eventually
@Klistern2
@Klistern2 10 ай бұрын
You dont really want water draining through pavers, thats why you fall the pavers to a drain... water under pavers will ruin the job in no time. Most paving contractors on small jobs like use poly sand which inhibits drainage anyway. Water should flow off pavers into a drain (strip drain, pit etc) at all times.
@BURTONSELEVEN
@BURTONSELEVEN Жыл бұрын
Why are some patios cemented down and some placed like this? Whats the difference and how do i determine what my garden would need? Thanks in advance
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Difference in installer preference and the application. Here is a video we made on that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNRomLJ1ub-RgX0.html
@BURTONSELEVEN
@BURTONSELEVEN Жыл бұрын
@@iamahardscaper thanks for your speedy reply will give a watch and a thumbs up on both vids
@brad2548
@brad2548 7 ай бұрын
Did you place pavers directly onto the sand or use paver base panels
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 7 ай бұрын
This was a traditional base and we actually had to dig to about 24” because of a tree stump. So we did not use the base panels
@brad2548
@brad2548 7 ай бұрын
@@iamahardscaper thank you
@derekgolba4442
@derekgolba4442 10 күн бұрын
Can I place a 6 man hot tub on pavers if I have 1” of screeding and 6” of 3/4 gravel underneath?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 күн бұрын
No it should be placed on a poured concrete pad
@derekgolba4442
@derekgolba4442 9 күн бұрын
@@iamahardscaper Thanks for the quick response! I appreciate it.
@shanelester1427
@shanelester1427 2 ай бұрын
If you need to prop a screed pole up to achieve grade/slope, I guess that just means you need to add more base material, correct? Otherwise you'd have more than 1" of bedding material? Ideally you should always be hammering the screed pole down to set final grade/slope, right?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 2 ай бұрын
Yup true. whether hammering down or propping up, it should be fairly consistent. No more than 1.5" for the screed layer.
@shanelester1427
@shanelester1427 2 ай бұрын
@@iamahardscaper thank you your videos are extremely helpful
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy them 👍
@korster
@korster 11 ай бұрын
1/4" per foot seems heavy in person. Is 1/2-5/8" per 4ft not acceptable?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't go less than 1/8" per foot slope. So yes what you put there is acceptable.
@kelleyolvey1275
@kelleyolvey1275 Жыл бұрын
Is concrete a good base?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
It is an additional step, but I know a few contractors that use concrete as the base. You’d have to be a good concrete installer plus a good interlock installer and have drain holes in the concrete with proper overlay install practices.
@HawthorneLandscapingNW
@HawthorneLandscapingNW Жыл бұрын
👍
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
👍
@PATOJO514
@PATOJO514 2 ай бұрын
Hi what is the Brand of the level system?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 2 ай бұрын
This one is called the ULevel, but it is the same as the Smart Level
@kieranhart5776
@kieranhart5776 Жыл бұрын
For a paver/interocking base Don’t use limestone screenings or any granular with sand in it. You will need to tamp it and it will still settle no matter how much you pack it. Use a quarter inch clear stone called at the quarry (1/4 chip) or at landscape supply yards called HPB (high performance base) or pipe bedding etc. it has many names as Dufferin owns the rights to the original product name)
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Yes that is a great alternative. But only for a bedding layer. You’d need a 3/4” angular crushed clean stone under that for the base.
@ColinMacIver
@ColinMacIver Жыл бұрын
@@iamahardscaper I guess he didni't listen to you in the video...
@ruck27
@ruck27 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion, using “A gravel” for your base and wetting it before you tamp it is the best base.
@ragingrevenge1
@ragingrevenge1 27 күн бұрын
A laser is way faster. Set your strings to your marked stakes. Pull your numbers from the string.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 27 күн бұрын
Yup
@haydeneverett1990
@haydeneverett1990 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike for the great video, very few videos on KZfaq talking about screeding in depth, most just gloss over the specifics. Next time try wearing a Hawaiian shirt and running shoes for a more professional look.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
I’ll try to sneak in some flip flops in a future video 👍👍
@donray2435
@donray2435 Жыл бұрын
Boom goes the dynamite
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
💥
@jaredtweed7826
@jaredtweed7826 6 ай бұрын
Why did the fact that you were laying the pavers tight, and using 3/4 minus gravel, prevent you from using 1/4" chip stone? Why is it not optimal to mix the base of a traditional base with the bedding of an open graded base, and vice versa?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 6 ай бұрын
When laying tight or pavers with tight joints I typically like to use concrete sand as my bedding layer because it is fine enough to move up through the joint which provides interlock. 1/4” chip is too large. This video explains further: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9dgnrSGuLnDj40.html I would use a 1/4” chip on top of a dense graded base. But in this case the product dictated concrete sand as a bedding layer and you can’t use an open graded base material with that.
@jaredtweed7826
@jaredtweed7826 6 ай бұрын
@@iamahardscaper Thank you, that makes sense now. I have often done rock dust on top of 3/4" clear. Do you know if sand would work in place of rock dust here, or do you think it would sink in?
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 6 ай бұрын
rock dust being like stone dust / screenings? 1/4" chip down to fines? I think over time any sand / fines will migrate into the 3/4" whether through water being introduced to the system or traffic on top.
@jaredtweed7826
@jaredtweed7826 6 ай бұрын
@@iamahardscaper Thank you, that makes sense. I appreciate your insight!
@sharky_spike
@sharky_spike 5 ай бұрын
but u can do 1/8 inch per foot
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 5 ай бұрын
For sure 👍
@lgrnacho1
@lgrnacho1 Жыл бұрын
This video shows why some people get nothing done.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@lj-jx9qy
@lj-jx9qy 11 күн бұрын
I wanted this to be shown I saw it and now I know what to do and I skipped parts of vid. Thanks for the vid now I can continue my yard work
@ryannelson2215
@ryannelson2215 10 ай бұрын
Seems like you made this more complicated than it needed to be
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 ай бұрын
Or very detailed with the steps for those new to it 👍
@jorgehome1727
@jorgehome1727 Жыл бұрын
You screeded the area but you didn't compensate for the compaction of the concrete sand of a quarter inch per every 1 inch ????? Why not ?????this must mean your patio will be at least 1 inch lower as it looks like you using 2 inches of concrete sand .....
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Just an inch of sand. And if you look at the tape measure it takes into factor that. Just for explanation purposes I say 1 inch bedding layer + 1 inch slab because it is easier to comprehend for a beginner. Then I explain the 1/4” additional. 👍
@zavugaderek3306
@zavugaderek3306 Жыл бұрын
Perfect though time consuming
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Perfection takes time
@efrainvalle6573
@efrainvalle6573 10 ай бұрын
I am lost....
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 ай бұрын
What can I help with 👍
@nathanwhiley3177
@nathanwhiley3177 Жыл бұрын
You need to get yourself a rotary laser level you’ll save yourself time
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
I’ve got one. Used string lines on this for some videos we are putting together
@RuneOsnes
@RuneOsnes Жыл бұрын
Very good information, but a bit hard to watch. The erratic videography makes me a bit sick. Some calmer movements and less handheld would make this excellent. 👍
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback!
@camouflagesounds
@camouflagesounds Жыл бұрын
all that drama? just use a grade level
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Жыл бұрын
This worked 👍
@thefamousdjx
@thefamousdjx 3 ай бұрын
Im sure you can just eyeball it too, who needs a level…
@Klistern2
@Klistern2 10 ай бұрын
For this method your base needs to be PERFECT. Make a base, then put 20mm crushed blue metal on it. use a screed with a spirit level in it to get your heights. Lay metal strips in the lines and screed away. Why do people do this shit so much harder than need be? The round pipes just leave big holes that you need to fix later cost you time.
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper 10 ай бұрын
I’d need to see a video of how you’re doing it
@vbl20012k7
@vbl20012k7 9 ай бұрын
You’d better post a video showing how you to lay metal strips and screed. I’m very happy to learn it.
@thefamousdjx
@thefamousdjx 3 ай бұрын
He’s talking about not using the pipes and just screeding away by constantly checking the level paying even more attention that as you move the level you not taking too much sand away. No way can that be faster. Using the pipes means you simply level them then no need to worry about anything else. I know people feel smarter when they say they did it without mucking around with pipes but each to his own. Its like looking down on people using laser levels just because you usually do with a normal ones.
@jasonrego2836
@jasonrego2836 Ай бұрын
Such a lame way just use the level why waste the time putting the pipes for ppl who don’t know how to level
@iamahardscaper
@iamahardscaper Ай бұрын
why use a level if you don't know how to use a level
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