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Awesome. Great comment. thanks Mauro!

thank you sir!

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wow just saw my own comment 1 year later haha now i actually am mastering and im still getting the hang of it but kind of enjoying it mostly now.. maybe in another year ill be good!

Follow after limiter

if it aint hittinf over 0db then its good

So from my understanding the music is uploaded at -14 lufs then Spotify compresses it further to make it 7-8 lufs.

Cian Tisdall possible it would be nice to have the streaming services just say what they do lol

@@Tedbearbeats well, they actually do this. this one is for spotify: "We currently use ReplayGain, which was the most recognized standard for calculating loudness when Spotify first started. In the future, we plan to use a new standard for calculating loudness, called ITU 1770 (from the International Telecommunication Union). This defines the integrated LUFS (Loudness Units Full Scale) measure, and it’s what we recommend you use to measure the loudness of your tracks. ReplayGain doesn’t specify a measurement unit for loudness, so we’re unable to give an exact measure in LUFS used by ITTU 1770. However, we adjust tracks to 3 dB higher than ReplayGain algorithm specifies, which is roughly equivalent to -14 dB LUFS, according to the ITU 1770 standard."

most clients still prefer an energetic, loud-sounding mix and don't notIce that the streaming services turn it down a few dB to hit LUFS targets. Experienced engineers do whatever sounds best for the music and generally don't let the LUFS meter guide their mastering decisions.

@@ciantisdall wrong spotify compresses it to -14 lufs

Separate individual sounds on the frequency dimension. As much as your taste allows you.

Hijack SONAR it depends on the standard you’re delivering and where / how it’s being broadcast. There’s actually a lot of useful presets included that cover a lot of different standards to choose from

You could be aiming at -14 LUFS but also be compressing too much overall. Try leaving more dynamic range.

Maybe ur master fader was at -3db? Just guessing

Meaning they will want it louder?

Guy Tallo yes, you can use it as your master limiter and it’s actually quite good on it’s own

@@SeanDivine Thank you!

I was just going ask him how to get nice wide Loud master after mixing. When I master Im at 10rms luf at -14 when play back finish touch sound Low like it ain't full. Another thing I notice is when you listen to spotify play professional songs it seems spotify got people songs alil too compress or limiter. I think they should bumb it up at -15 luf I say that's the sweet spot. Were apple is -16 luv and everything is more open more dynamic too

jmizz15212 Films J-jigga that’s going lower in volume though?

@@bboymac84 bro explain more even if i go a good eight or seven it still be lower family

jmizz15212 Films J-jigga you going lower in volume yes?

@@bboymac84 ok good looks what volume you go do you go hot

No difference unless any desired limiting / filtering / leveling is engaged from THIS plugin. If you use this only for metering, then there is no use of engaging this because what it all say is something you've done already, which isn't altered even if you bypass this.

Thomas Piper its all bullshit. Not a single streaming service uses lufs matching by default. And no major artist had switched to -14 lufs masters

At this point, it’s a standard not a requirement. The confusion comes as many think the standard is set to make everything quieter but it’s actually to create a consistent listening experience when the normalization / sound check options are enabled

They will turn down your track by 2 db

@@danielpicard3994 thank you. So then doesn't it make more sense to target -16. Spotify would only raise the noise floor, but at least all of the music would still be heard fully. Or does it depend on genre and other factors?

Its not true

Steven Cravis if the listener has loudness “normalization” options enabled, it will simply adjust all music to the standard. So your track would be simply be turned down to match.

Could somebody reply to this please?

Yes always be at -1 db true peak, if you are lower than that like -3.5 than your track is just going to be more quiet. So just put the Output of your true peak limiter or wlm plus to -1 and than push it till you reach your desiered lufs and -1 db true peak, just be sure that its never going above the -1. Also if you want your track louder depending on the genre you can go over -14 lufs, i always try to get my master to around -9 lufs.

@@horstblume8849 thanks for the reply!

@@horstblume8849 Are you leaving the WLM on to bounce the track or you put it off and mix it again? Isnt there too much quali loss if you leave it on?

@@stillgotyourmom I dont think there is any quali loss when you leave it on, its just a metering plugin with build in limiter. If I use the true peak limiter I leave it on of course, if Im not using it I turn it of but it shouldnt make any difference.

Mainstream songs final LUFS is around -9. Streaming services say -14 but itll be low. Just try and get it as loud as -9 and if the mix is good itll sound full and competitive to mainstream songs.

@@gusdee4844 thanks family highly appreciated it

@@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888 takes alot for loudness bro. Theres no easy fix and im not even close to there yet lol. But theres shit about percieved loudness and all that which is confusing but very true. On my master bus, say I add OneBrighter plugin from Waves and turn it up a couple notches.. it adds like 1 or 2 LUFS. Saturation as well. Limiter wont be the only thing to make it loud and full.

Not hitting the limiter isn't necessarily a bad thing. It does bring into question if you are over compressing though. If your content is something that does not have a lot of short loud transients (i.e. drums claps etc.) then you might not hit or need the limiter.

Wait nvm, I saw a comment on -3db. Mines is in between -8 to -6DB so I don’t need to gain it.

Yes. If you activate True Peak Limiter it can also serve as your master limiter

DB is not LUFS. Totally different ways of measuring.

@@blvkqmusicgroup i know. that's why i'm asking. since if 14 lufs is the loudness standard for youtube and this video is set to 14 lufs, then the number should says roughly around 0 DB, right? because the -6.3db in the "stats for nerds" means KZfaq turned down the volume of original audio of the uploaded video by -6.3db to compensate the original loudness. so when people set the volume slider in the youtube video player to max 100%, that 100% is equal to the -6.3db of the original volume. which means, the loudness of this video before uploaded to youtube is more than 14 lufs. that's the opposite with what the video shows. the video shows that the audio was set to 14 lufs. but now we know that the video is actually not 14 db because KZfaq algorithm still decide to reduce it's volume by -6.3db, when if youtube loudness standard is 14lufs, the algorithm shouldn't reduce the volume to match the loudness to 14 lufs, and by that the stats should says roughly around 0db. and to be clear, youtube algorithm is not doing any compression to the dynamic of the audio, it simply just like turning down the fader. and also it only does reduction which means video with quieter loudness won't be compensated by increasing its volume. it only decreasing volume of video with louder audio. i hope you get what i mean

I wish they would answer this question. Even the Abbey Road Studio plugin

That just means your short term LUFS is peaking. You can try compressing some elements more in your mix to avoid the peak. I don't know what was your experience with Waves Tech support but they have been wonderful every time I called them.

tooo loud!

if you don't hit 0 true peak you're fine, and it's better to have it louder than -14 lufs rather than quieter

@@curtiscole9151 Thanks for the information bro I really appreciate it

-14 LUFS is far too Quiet. -9 to -6 LUFS is in the commercial range. Pull a commercial track into your DAW and meter it.

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What’s the DB level at?

@@longarooni -3db

Yep, far too quiet. Master at -9 to -6 LUFS. Use reference tracks and meter them to see how loud they are, then level match. Qobuz.com is great place to purchase reference tracks.