How To Setup a Patreon that Supports You Full-Time

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8 жыл бұрын

Many KZfaq creators, podcasters, and other online creators are earning a full-time income from their patrons on Patreon. How you setup your Patreon page can make a big difference in how quickly your Patreon page grows and supports you and the content you're creating for them. Peter Hollens has been successful on Patreon since the very beginning of the platforms existence and joins us to evaluate the Video Creators patreon page as well as show us how to setup Patreon in a way that makes it possible for us use it as a meaningful revenue source.
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@Bushchannel 8 жыл бұрын

Very brave Tim. Interesting to see you being analysed rather than the other way around like in your channel evaluations.

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

Hope it was helpful for you! I don't mind being scrutinized. I'm certainly not an expert on everything. I need people to training me in different areas, too. :)

@Bushchannel 8 жыл бұрын

Well done, I also found your recent mutual collab videos with Derral Eves to be particularly cool.

@MusicOrLoseItTV 8 жыл бұрын

On his page he mentions "patron only stream." Do you know what that means? Are Patreon creators supposed to upload their exclusive videos there?

@Bushchannel 8 жыл бұрын

Maybe that means content that only paid followers can view.

@MusicOrLoseItTV 8 жыл бұрын

Bush Channel Respectfully I need evidence based answers with a source cited, not speculation.

@littlespressurewashing Жыл бұрын

Just started out PATREON two months ago and love it ,we’re able to help so many and created a community! Thanks for all the help

@DrawCuriosity 8 жыл бұрын

I disagree with Peter on one point, I actually think charging per month makes more sense for your channel than per creation. I always feel per creation is when said creations are irregular and infrequently spaced (such as people releasing animations/singles/comics etc...). You post 2-4x times a week I feel, so that would add up to 10-30 videos a month, which would get very expensive... Even though you can place a cap, not everyone knows that and I think you will be deterring potential backers. Curious to know what others think. Good video otherwise - I just thought that in particular was bad advice.

@SuzieTheSawyer 8 жыл бұрын

+Draw Curiosity I think what he is referring to is maybe his patreon only content? I'm pretty sure he's mentioned that he does extra videos just for his patrons with extra info or something? So, he's only doing 3 or 4 of those a month.

@DrawCuriosity 8 жыл бұрын

But that is still over once a month though... so to sign up for say x a month to suddenly 4x a month, even though they can decide, I think may not be as smart a move

@SuzieTheSawyer 8 жыл бұрын

+Draw Curiosity I think you missed where he said you can cap it? You can limit how many videos you'd pay for in a month.

@DrawCuriosity 8 жыл бұрын

I know, but not everyone knows that so I would imagine it to be a deterrent to someone considering becoming a patron I guess. :) Basically, I'm just saying I think it is a bad strategy. Obviously it works for Tim so good for him :)

@MicahBuzanANIMATION 6 жыл бұрын

i agree

@GutFeelings 5 жыл бұрын

This is SOOOO helpful, thank you both guys, Peter and Tim for sharing! All the best to your content creation & Patreon growth!

@ZomBeeNature 6 жыл бұрын

I laughed when he called your thank you video totally lame! 😂

@MadisonMonRoeCurtis 4 жыл бұрын

I know. I love how sure and confident he is, but then I would also be holding back tears.

@myRatchets 8 жыл бұрын

Hey Tim as a new patron, I would recommend mentioning and emphasizing the access people have to you when they support you on patreon. People that are trying to start or improve a youtube channel will have a ton of questions and if they can get answers from a youtube expert like you, supporting you on patreon becomes a no brainer. Hope that helps.

@RonnieHouseJr 8 жыл бұрын

Great tip bro

@gauloise6442 6 жыл бұрын

I think he could get a lot of patrons by having a monthly group hangout. private hangout for a higher tier.

@TravestyLive 6 жыл бұрын

Yes. I am not a patron, but I was not aware of this fact.

@thebartlettbeewhispererdav1148 4 жыл бұрын

I've been playing with the Patreon setup since the end of November. This interchange was very helpful. Look forward to more from both of you.

@EvanCarmichael 8 жыл бұрын

Great video - thanks Tim - looking forward to the update! :)

@HarryPotterFolklore 8 жыл бұрын

Great Video Tim, it's very honest of you to step into the shoes of someone being evaluated. Thanks again, I knew about Patreon but never thought it could be so effective :)

@PeteWoronowski 6 жыл бұрын

Tim and Peter, another so very helpful video that I appreciate so much. Very best to you both! Cheers, Pete

@gavinwhyte941 7 жыл бұрын

This is brutally honest - love it! Thanks for this.

@SkatingwithAaron 3 жыл бұрын

Four years later still great info! I’m new to this and looking into it to help support my channel so I can keep putting out great content. Thanks!

@rva 6 жыл бұрын

This was uber helpful....I am starting out...wish me luck THANKS AGAIN GUYS!!

@linglingnarzihary411 5 жыл бұрын

wowowowoowowowowowwoow.... didnt expect to find u here.... :) u have become much bigger now

@isntajerk 6 жыл бұрын

This is a wonderful video! It's given me some excellent ideas, especially regarding rewards. I'm new to Patreon. But, I'm excited to be experimenting with Patreon. I've also added this video to my Patreon playlist, to make it more likely that I'll watch this video again, whenever I brainstorm how to improve my Patreon Page. Thank you for making this video, and so many of your videos, so available to us.

@fatheringautism 7 жыл бұрын

Someone suggested Patreon as I approached 2k subs. I'm trying to learn as much as I can before launch. Thanks for this! Great info and thank you Peter.

@Tiffahorror 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this and putting yourself out there. I know receiving feedback is difficult sometimes (especially in front of thousands of people) but you did it well and it was super helpful to see.

@singwisevocals 6 жыл бұрын

I have my Patreon set up to charge monthly because it makes much more sense for me and the kind of 'rewards' that I offer. One of the reward tiers includes a monthly hangout/Q&A, one includes a monthly personalized video lesson (in which the patrons send samples of their singing and I record a lesson in response, containing training tips and exercises to help them work on the areas of focus - and this is at a discount from my regular fee), and one tier includes a monthly private voice lesson with me (at a discount from my regular lesson rate). Some months, I might make 2 posts and other months, I might post 4 times. But those rewards and services always remain, and it's those rewards/services that are what drive my followers to become patrons. Those discounts on the personalized video lessons and private lessons are reward enough; the extra instructional videos and written posts are bonuses.

@singwisevocals 6 жыл бұрын

And, I want to promote those higher reward tiers because I think that the perceived value is significantly higher (because they're receiving individual instruction tailored to their unique training needs) and because it's more personal. It might mean more work for me in some ways, but one-on-one interaction is the most important part of my business model.

@junepenny 5 жыл бұрын

can I ask you a question? Im trying to put certain videos up for certain tiers but all my videos don't give me any option other than "public" yet my text posts give the tier option for viewing. what am I doing wrong?

@KimberlyCossYLeon 6 жыл бұрын

thank for both your help im new to youtubing and i get nervous at times so your right you should make a video thanking from the heart :) i will be sure making one!! i love supporting channels from every type of content and meet others!!

@ChrisRobinsonNJ 8 жыл бұрын

So many good ideas. I just launched a Patreon and had 3 supporters right away. Nothing after that. I see all the things I could/should be doing. Never stop learning! Great video, Tim.

@MasterHumanVideo 7 жыл бұрын

If I had a "Best Video I've Seen This Week" Award that I could give out, this would win it. Very densely packed with great info!! Thanks so much Tim and Peter :)

@tneeahsspace409 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks so much both of you to share this.

@simpleandsavored9210 7 жыл бұрын

I feel this is the answer to my concern about youtube changing things around. Peter is so amazing too. Thanks for the honest answers. Thanks for both of your service to us.

@Yzjoshuwave 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being so willing to share your process of learning how to go about doing this! It takes guts to be exposed, as I'm presently learning in getting started with this as well. I think the buzz phrase I'm going to be most prominently focused on for the moment is "community management".

@KimSimonsJr 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for stepping into that vulnerable space to make my journey smoother. This platform will be life changing for my community and me ! Love !

@Technofareblog 7 жыл бұрын

Tim - I have seen atleast 25-30 of your videos in last 2 years and let me tell you this one was the best ( out of the ones i have watched). Awesome conversation and great learning from both you and Peter. Also subscribed to his music videos. I will recommend viewers to watch Pete's work - i saw one video - Disney Medley - so well done that i subscribed immediately... Tim - You too do good work, i will now be more regular on your channel.

@TheHimbob 6 жыл бұрын

thanks for doing something like this, I am just beginning myself and getting the heads up before my launch is great!

@HomeworkRadio 6 жыл бұрын

This is helpful :) I don't really know where to start though :/

@stevesloan5935 7 жыл бұрын

This is very helpful, specific, and actionable info. Thank you!

@artemorbid 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for all this info- it helped me out a lot

@DaveThundercloud 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos fellas I am new to this and trying to learn

@IndependentFilmProducerU 7 жыл бұрын

Great video Tim! I especially like the advice Peter gave around 15:55 in the video where he says that you should respond to every single comment posted to your Patreon considering that your fans have opened their wallets to you. Your benefactors should be treated like VIP! Thanks again for this video.

@MicahBuzanANIMATION 6 жыл бұрын

Totally! Commenting to every comment is a good practice on every platform, at least starting out when you don'y have thousands of comments.

@thenextstep7049 6 жыл бұрын

I respond to every comment on patreon and almost every comment on YT (sometimes 1 person leaves a dozen comments on one vid, and I respond to about half of those). I feel if they take the time to make a comment, I can take the time to respond. Seems like a good way to build a community. 😀

@katiefair3404 7 жыл бұрын

Sooooo helpful! Been wanting to get my patreon up & running for ages! Much food for thought. thanks for this.

@VocalSplendorStudios 8 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Thank you SO much. I am taking a break from my channel to upgrade my whole business model.This has been so helpful!

@BlackOwlOutdoors 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this video. Super helpful and informative.

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+Black Owl Outdoors Good! Glad to hear it!

@offthewallzoddballzmelissa1994 5 жыл бұрын

I am just starting . This has helped and will have to watch more than one time .

@kylepuckett6786 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim for sharing this with us! It was very insightful. I'm always happy to see someone trying to improve themselves and/or their business.

@VellB 3 жыл бұрын

Extremely helpful content! I’ve learned a ton to get me started with my creating an engaging page for my followers!

@VikingM1ke 8 жыл бұрын

This was absolutely what I needed right now! Thank you for a great content.

@leewoodauthor 6 жыл бұрын

That was super helpful and top quality advice. Thank you being so open with the information.

@KatieThompsonz 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tim & Peter! Very, very insightful! I'm about to launch my own Patreon page and there were plenty of gems in this video! Will be following you both!!!

@JensLarsen 8 жыл бұрын

Great video! Learned a lot from this! Thank you!!

@CezarBianu 8 жыл бұрын

OK, I have to say this: Peter is the most genuine and honest person I have ever listen to in the online realm. I mean, he has advices ON POINT and he explains everything perfect. I love this guy. Thanks Tim for exposing everything here for us to learn more about Patreon. This is a super valuable video. Really appreciate this upload man!

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

haha Yeah, he's a good guy! Glad you found this helpful for you!

@alexbukk556 5 жыл бұрын

Such a great way of coneying the message though a converation! Got so much out of this video - Thanks! Keep uo your good work :D

@Inventioning 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for this great information. We have just started a Patreon and are still in the process of launching it. It's live but we are going to do our introductory video before we really start marketing it. Hope to integrate some of the tips here. And Peter should know, (and it's interesting to note) that I enjoyed getting to know him on this video much more than on his Patreon introduction video. Best wishes!

@cmcocktails 8 жыл бұрын

The mention about "producer" credits is great, we've been doing that for months and it's helped drive more new subscribers. I only do one per episode with a shout out and a "executive producer" pop-up at the start of the video. I don't do things "per video" thing works for us, we produce 5 to 7 video's a week, that's a big expense for people as we pump out content. My priority list is me re-doing my patreon information so this is greatly timed!

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about "per video," since I tend to publish a lot of content, too, but I made the switch and decided to scale back how much I publish instead as a qualified "youtube training" for Patreon.

@cmcocktails 8 жыл бұрын

+Video Creators I have 51 patrons and $425/mo, I'm looking to double it, but I have to come up with some value add. I think, when creating some of my homemade bitters and such for our show, I'm going to start sending them to our patron's for making cocktails. Since selling them isn't really legal unless I have a license / distillery to produce/label them (under the TTB guidelines) but gifts are legit. Plus, after I make a batch I have like 3 bottles full that I'll never use--might as well reward people. Now, the trick there is that some of our patrons are outside the country so shipping isn't going to be cheap in some cases. But, they are paying for the show and I think if they've got a lifetime payment of over $60 then they should qualify. Right now I'm giving away all our new recipe PDF's we'll be selling on a new site I've built (just waiting for my SSL cert), and I'm going to give those to all our patrons that spent over $5. And, I already am designing custom recipes for those that have a lifetime donation of $50+. Which works well, given designing a cocktail is just time which, in the end, we produce a video for anyway so it's a double whammy for little upfront investment.

@sugarypompom2900 6 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Tons of info. Thanks Peter

@JetFalco 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, this video is superb. Thanks so much for doing this. I just recently launched my Patreon and I'm definitely going to be developing it to align more with these tips. Much appreciated. Keep the content coming.

@MovieStudioZen 8 жыл бұрын

This is such a valuable video! Thank you Tim & Peter :)

@thetwinsplay7804 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I'm going to start a patreon soon and keep all this in mind

@georgejacinto7790 8 жыл бұрын

This discussion was most helpful. I am new to KZfaq and this tool is a great place to weave needed information into a community.

@PeinadosConMary 6 жыл бұрын

@ Tim and Peter, Thank you so much for this video. I learned a lot about creating and managing Patreon page. You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work!

@DreamvineStudios 7 жыл бұрын

Big thanks to you both for this information! This is definitely something I plan to implement when my channel becomes more popular.

@diverseentertainmentstudio620 8 жыл бұрын

As always Tim, your videos are full of quality information. Thank you!!

@likewisejazz 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this info!

@nancyburridge 7 жыл бұрын

Good video. Peter's advice was valuable and you were a good sport for being the test case. Of course now you have some great ideas to implement! Thanks to you both! ~Nancy

@Leoeljugador 8 жыл бұрын

WOW... Tim this is really awesome... I actually I will start a youtube channel and all this tips are gold man. Thank you very much bro!

@jorowi 8 жыл бұрын

Great video. One thing I noticed when checking out Peter's page is that his welcome video is over 4 minutes too.

@Daitomodachi 8 жыл бұрын

This has been really insightful! I'm not sure if I'm ready to start my pateron now, but I will save this video and keep it in mind for the future!

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+Daitomodachi Great! Glad it's helpful!

@JessaJay 8 жыл бұрын

+Daitomodachi Yeah, I did the same thing, because I'm not ready yet, BUT I know I want to eventually.

@JustAzab 8 жыл бұрын

+Daitomodachi Ehh, what's up man. I see you on the UFG forums quite a lot =D

@Daitomodachi 8 жыл бұрын

JustAzab Thanks for recognizing me dude :D Glad to hear someone recognizes me here.

@ShadowMantraSteve 6 жыл бұрын

Slowly working my way through your videos and this is really useful. I'm on the fence about when to start a Patreon so seeing this kind of thing is very useful. Thank you!

@JimWellsIsGreat 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tim and Peter. This is one of the more helpful Patreon videos I've seen. I would love to see more on Patreon, in the future.

@KickassDesigns503 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! As always :) I'll have to check this out.

@PersonalFitness3 7 жыл бұрын

So far this is THE most helpful video I've found on Patreon fundamentals. Thank you for sharing!!

@NoaLeighMaxwell 6 жыл бұрын

I was worried when I saw how long the video was but this was VERY helpful! It's easy to underestimate the work needed for a good Patreon page. Thank you!

@JonDavidCroel 7 жыл бұрын

This was helpful...I see that you have implemented a lot of these suggestions and your Patreon has grown by 300%. Good Job!

@JTBivens 7 жыл бұрын

Here with everyone else trying to learn more about this awesome tool. Loved the video and great job!

@ToonLeighporpeangfarmThailand 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent excellent video . . . your best by far, so far. Thank you so much as we always knocked this type of thing without knowing hardly anything about it. Cheers Leigh & Toon.

@Geeksmithing 8 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful! Thanks for the info guys!

@MaizumaGames 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this video! I don't have my first patrons yet but I applied as much as could from your talk to Peter and my patreon page looks much more attractive now!

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+Maizuma Games Good! I hope it works out well for you!

@isisrodrigueztheartist5386 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for your generosity of information. this is a rare gem of helpful approach to patreon.

@JohnChvatalGSTV 8 жыл бұрын

Great video Tim and Peter! I'm putting the finishing touches on my very first Patreon campaign. Because of this video, I'm going to be tweaking a few things like keeping the introduction video that goes on the Patreon page under 2 minutes. This video also told me I was on track with how I am going about some other things....

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+John Chvatal Perfect! Glad it was helpful for you!

@TrailRecon 8 жыл бұрын

Great video and just some good general rules for running your channel... thank you!

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+TrailRecon You're welcome!

@LearntoLovetheWord 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I'll be watching this one a few times and listening to the extra audio. Thank you Tim and Peter for pulling back the curtain and giving us some fundamentals as well as practical tips on how to better serve our communities.

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Glad to help!

@DailyDealDashYT 7 жыл бұрын

This is really good info. Thanks for making this video. Definitely subscribed to your channel :)

@KnotVikings 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a well made and helpful video! We started our Patreon page recently and I got a lot of good ideas watching this. Ideas that I hope to apply on my own page very soon. Cheers from a sailing family from Sweden

@roblugo8739 7 жыл бұрын

This has been an amazing video. Thanks :)

@japanjaydee 7 жыл бұрын

Incredibly useful information! I'm definitely going to be redoing my Patreon intro video, as well as adding a thank you video. I need to grow my community, though. I should be able to become consistent this summer, though.

@SteveSzara 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great information.

@KoriLinae 7 жыл бұрын

This is outstanding information. Thank you!!

@Eyeneedcash 5 жыл бұрын

I just opened my Patreon so watching this video was extremely helpful. Extremely extremely helpful.

@MadisonMonRoeCurtis 4 жыл бұрын

I'm about to start mine! Any luck over the past year with yours?

@Eyeneedcash 4 жыл бұрын

Love Your VanLife no. I let it fade away

@MadisonMonRoeCurtis 4 жыл бұрын

@@Eyeneedcash awe haha dang...

@tippysouthcloud7991 7 жыл бұрын

this is something im considering. Very helpful video!!!

@teacherrobin3192 7 жыл бұрын

What an absolutely excellent video ... content and presentation ...

@leavittvisuals8212 7 жыл бұрын

Love Peter Hollens, and this video was super helpful. You've got a subscriber out of me!

@mystiqueshow5059 7 жыл бұрын

Really love your work ! :)

@juliemclaughlin5407 Жыл бұрын

I'm really glad that you've shown us this. I do not subscribe to patreon channels but I like the youtube videos and subscribe to youtube channels. I think Peter is right with responding to people and thanking them and commenting in response to their comments. Even the negative ones. Sometimes people (like me) don't realize we're being negative but rather see it as teaching or helping to foster ideas for someone. Also, the way Peter described emailing people who have been declined, a lot of times, cards get lost and so they get a new card with new numbers and perhaps they forgot they were subscribing to your patreon channel. Also, read some of your own personal emails you've received from others and see how they go about trying to win you back to them, like doctor's offices or whatnot. :) Good advice and ideas here. Thanks again!!! Hopefully my husband can do something like this but he's not a real big talker. I told him to do little 5 minute videos after hearing Peter talk about the average attention span of a person these days. :)

@cheriesmith5140 7 жыл бұрын

new to seeing what patreon is. thanks so much for sharing :)

@andrewwilkie6130 4 жыл бұрын

I’m working on creating my page. Your info is really useful

@jennifersilves8413 7 жыл бұрын

Oh this was amazingly helpful. Thank you so much.

@NEOBRUTALISM 8 жыл бұрын

THANKS for the advices

@2ndhandslayer257 8 жыл бұрын

Very interesting content. This is much more in-depth and tactical than most of what I've seen concerning Patreon. Good stuff.

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+Patrick Unbound Good! Hopefully it helps!

@LegitJMan 8 жыл бұрын

Love your ending card! And I will consider supporting you on Patreon as soon as I get a job!

@VideoCreators 8 жыл бұрын

+JMan Thanks man, I really appreciate that! And thank you for being a long-time member of the Video Creators community! :)

@difFamilyVlog 8 жыл бұрын

Kudos Tim! It's not easy to put yourself out there for critique but it definitely looks like there were some great tips in there

@junbelo4732 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for the ideas!

@PrintablesAndInspirations 5 жыл бұрын

Really awesome video, thanks to you both!❤️

@LILTRadio 7 жыл бұрын

This was such a rough criticism. I am so appreciative you actually shared this convo because it is an amazing opportunity for newer channels. thanks again. Earned a new subscriber. **Thrice

@nataecolvin3648 4 жыл бұрын

appreciate this video super insightful . thanks peter

@MichaelTBhatty 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! This is most helpful! Appreciated:-)

@songsfromtheclassroom9638 8 жыл бұрын

Hey Tim, I have had a great time watching your stuff. Very professional and helpful. I have been researching how to launch my channel for a few months. I have a money person behind the scenes which is great. I will say that I am really blessed that I have an amazing niche to fill and it's time to take it to the top. I have a kids tv show in development with Nickelodeon right now, so the youtube channel is going to be such a great adventure while that plays out. If people only new the amount of work it takes. It is mind blowing, but when your passions involved, it's just living your life. Just wanted to say thanks for the vids and let you know that I will see this to the top. It's all about giving back, teaching, and doing it for the right reasons. I'm a school teacher and schools out in 5 days. This will be my summer launch and your vids will be a part of that process. Would love to chat sometime, but not sure how that's done around here yet. lol Rock on brother!!

@JaydenSimpson 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for sharing!

@iPedroMota 6 жыл бұрын

Great convo on the subject. Some of my followers actually introduced me to Patreon so doing some research here. Listening to the full podcast, thanks.