it ain't much but it's honest work 😁 I'm glad it helped.

@@GBWM_CNC Here's the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nd-jZ7aByqy3Zok.html I get it working. Thanks once again. Is there a way to enable the drive only when it is not at idle status? I mean I'll use it as spindle motor on my CNC lathe. Currently the servo is always enabled and (engaged). I'd like to have it disabled when no program is running. So what I need is simply a soft enable.

Was it a 220v driver?

Nice, how did you manage to do that?

To be honest - I didn't have at home any back then and those on the motor cable were included by the manufacturer already. I made this video just for fast test purposes, so i used what I had home :)

What motor model do you have? Maybe you have an 2000rpm motor?

I have an 80st-M04025 which has a rated max rpm of 2500.

@@robertschwarz1795 Check Pn177. This is the parameter for jog speed. Are you able to change the jog speed there to more than 2000? Did you set Pn001 to 6? (it's your motor code) Pn020 is for rated speed of motor - should be set to 2500 for you. Let me know if any of this help

I am glad the video helped! I didn't do any tuning of my servo motor on my laptop - just set the proper parameters on the driver. For sending signals I usually use MACH3 CNC software but you can also use PLC hardware / software etc. If you mean the signal measuring software - it's the software from a instrustar oscilloscope.

You're welcome :)

Honestly I don't think it is possible, but you'd have to check the manual if it is. But I didn't see anywhere any info about that.

I think this could be done with a S7-1200 PLC which has the function called "motion control" - I'm not sure if this could be done without it. You could feed the PLC with the inputs/outputs and generate the external pulse for the servo driver to perform the motion you need.

Sorry, first time hearing of such problem :/

¿Está utilizando GRBL? Si es así, el video muestra dónde conectar la señal STEP / DIR, también utilizada en GBRL.

I've got no possibility to check now. I think there is a enable pin in the driver which allows you to "disable" the motor - then you can freely rotate the shaft with hand. I've got the English manual but i'll be able send it you within couple of days when i get access to my PC. Give me your e-mail if you need it still

@@GBWM_CNC You have a manual in English?! The one I was sent has Chinese for quite a lot of the essential details, especially regarding wiring. It's a very tense time for me getting this expensive servo moving...!!😬

On the video I mentioned all the settings I changed and it worked like on the video. If you did all the same way - it should work

@@GBWM_CNC one more thing do you know any factory reset button or software reset for aasd driver?

@@user-iz7up9ku3t Check the Fn004 in the manual. There is something about returning parameters pn000-pn280 to the factory value.

Could you explain what do you mean?

My motor keep running when it should be stop, and i think its because my pwm voltage when its stop still 0.2 v, i want to make it stop if the pwm under 0.2, so my motor wont keep running if the pwm is under 0.2 v, is it possible?

Or at least.. How to stop servo , and make sure it is zero speed

@@shwanzery657 Check Pn164 and Pn165 in servo manual. There is a function called "zero clamp" which I think refers to shaft zero speed holding. If I get it right (I have no possibility to check it now) I think you should do Pn164 to 1 - this should activate Pn165 command. And the Pn165 command sets the value of speed (rpm) below which the motor should stop to 0. So if you set this command to 6rpm - the motor will stop when you set your rpm by your voltage below 6rpm. That's how I think it should work. Also there is a ZeroLocK function when you put Pn164 to 0 and send voltage to one of the SigIn ports but I can't find any information how to set one of the sigIn ports to ZeroLocK function. I hope this helps

You can also use SigIn1 for servo enable / disable if you dont need to clamp the motor in position.

Exactly. Just as you see on 3:26 like a usual stepper motor.

@@GBWM_CNC Hi I connected Two Stepper Motors for axis and used P3 at BOB. For AC servo spindle connection where shall i take ? Your support will be highly appreciated.

@@PenHousein I made a video how to connect such servo in velocity mode as spindle on this BOB. Check out on my channel. Hopefully it will help.

@@GBWM_CNC Hi, there also i asked some question. Firstly i did the same connection, but my spindle is always running, whenever i switch on my Servo motor. I took a video and would like to share the video link personally, so could u please provide me your email id. thanks in advance

@@GBWM_CNC Hello there!I have the same motor-driver and I want to set it up with Pokeys57cnc.Can I connect Dir- Pulse- to Pokeys ground and Dir+ Pulse+ to Pokeys Dir Pulse?The opposite from what Dominik states above?

You're welcome! AC serwos as well as other motors draw the more current the bigger the load is (so these need more torque to maintain the speed). So yes - the current drawn increases with the load. I'm actually adding these motors to my milling machine and I will share some details about the configurations to use these with an actual machine - not just on the desktop :)

Also - my choice is the ac servos as these seem not to bee so expensive if you consider that you need to buy a power supply for each hybrid stepper. These can be power supplied with 230V or 400V (depending on the model).

@@GBWM_CNC thanks for your response, I'll be looking forward to see the progress on your project. I made up my mind and will place an order for these servos, hopefully I'll be able to set them up correctly within a few months in my spare time. Thanks again and keep up the good work

You can control such servo with cnc boards using mach3 for example. Or arduino with grbl.

@@GBWM_CNC do I need an additional shield or the Arduino can be connected to the servo drive?

@@TiborKoroknai i think it is possible to control it without additional shield. Depends what you need. I have no experience in arduino but from what i know there are available in the internet simple programs to control servos / steppers.

Yes

for ac servos a VFD is used which basically takes in one voltage and frequency and turns them into a dc current then it inverts them to a range of frequencies/voltages(also ading a phase in the whole inverter part). for example (230V/50Hz) single phase ac-> (323v) dc-> (100-580V/0-200Hz) three phase ac.

If there is a 0-10V output - there should be no problem 😁

You mean if the input voltage = 0V the motor is turning?

@@GBWM_CNC yes, there is no connection yet for pin 13 and pin 25. i if put 0-10 volt to pin 13 and pin 25 works fine... but if you put the voltage in 0v the motors still turning

@@ikecobey6268 Checkout this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpyAo5Z4ma_FaZc.html at 5:15 - There is a parameter which stops the motor if the voltage sets the motor below a specific rotational speed. For example on that video i show how to stop the motor if the voltage is on the level of 50rpm (about 0,16V or less which could be also affected by noises). You can play with this and I think it should help you out.

@@GBWM_CNC i just done this PN164=1 and PN165=50 but same still turning.

@@ikecobey6268 So you mean with supplied voltage it runs fine on the whole rotational speed range and without connecting the voltage it runs all the time even with the clamping parameter? What speed does it achieve without the voltage supplied? This is pretty wierd I think

There is something called "Encoder signal output" in the manual. I personally did not use this function but I could send you the user manual so you could check it out yourself. I think it should be possible to get the rpm out of this 😁

i have the manual, and i am trying to hook it up to the centroid acorn encoder and I have everything figured out except where to hook up the 5+VDC from the acorn to the driver, does anyone know where to hook it up on the driver?

@@BondmeJesus I am doing the same thing now to a pokeys57 cnc board. The manual is a bit vague. Did you have any luck?

@@patrickneal8691 its the best thing ever, I got another 1.8kw servo for my g0602 and I got it tuned so perfectly for rigid tapping I tap nice and slow only at 200 rpm, other motors dont have enough torque to do that so they have to hit it at 600rpm to keep from stalling out. I use peck tapping/deep hole tapping on everything just because I like it, like on a 1-20 I tap .1/2 rotations, then back out. if I were you, I would get out of that pokeys, they have a glitch on the m04 relay that arturo couldnt fix because pokeys is the prob. I went through 2 m16 boards and spent 2 years going crazy trying to get it going for rigid tapping, and mach 4 has soo many issues, i spent 10 years with mach 4, I've had 2 pokeys 57e boards, and nothing but problems. I love the acorn, its expensive though for mill pro software, and lathe pro software, and 2 acorn boards, but it's the best ive used, and everything works really well, ive had absolutely no problems, and it's easy and simple to learn. I wish I had started out with acorn, but i sure learned a lot going with pokeys 57e/smoothstepper/m16d, and now acorn; over the last 10 years. i like acorn because they make the board, and the software. its industrial quality. ive thrown away twice the cost of 2 acorn setups fooling around with everything else, and it almost made me hate cnc altogether because of bad experiences. if you want to know my settings for the 1.8kw then I can share it with you. I don't do public videos. im using a signal isolator to overcome the floating ground issue on the driver for the1.8kw motor, and running it with analog 0-10v positive for CW and polarity reverse for CCW rotation. and I use 4 relays opto isolated to reverse polarity on the 0-10v analog, and those 4 relays are controlled by one of the relays on the acorn, and when the relay is off; then the 4 relays send NO polarity, but when the relay comes on, then all 4 relays open, and close normal polarity, and open reverse polarity, and before it goes through the relays, it goes through a kbmm or kb something or other, cant remember off hand. get it on ebay for $45 each, otherwise you pay $200 each. signal isolator so that the floating ground is not an issue. are you using your servo with step and dir, or 0-10 analog? have a good one, and message me if you need help.

@@patrickneal8691 as far as the encoder YES its easy once you know how it works, let me know if you need my info. the encoder supplies its own power so all you need to hook up is the A,B, and so forth, I have to look at my info to remember the exacts.

That's a complex question. I didn't configure this motor to be used for a rotary axis and spindle at the same time. It can be used in velocity mode controlled by +/-10V and position mode by step/dir but I didn't test it with both-configuration. Would have to do some research.

@@GBWM_CNC noted sir, if you do atempt to configure please create a video. If i do i will share the results in my video. I am almost done with my cnc mini lathe. I will share some videos soon. Thank you again. Have a great day

@@rengankrishnaiyer6912 Sure! I will check out your build too. Have a great day!

@@GBWM_CNC Hi there; thanks for the video, it's been a great help! Weighing in as a complete newbie here, Pn002 setting 3 is Position/speed mode. I'm hoping this will do the job of using the servo for a combination of positional and spindle. I'm hoping to use my 1.5kw servo for a Swiss/mill turn lathe build, and will need to switch between positional for milling, and speed for turning. Yoinks...!😬 Your video helped me get the servo moving for the first time, which I'm very pleased about! I've only managed this by changing Pn003 to 1, which sets the servo spinning on its own, then supplying voltage to pin 13+25 to add some speed. Not exactly useable, but did assure me the servo is working!👍😊

@@GBWM_CNC it can be done with a vba script if wired into an axis you can use a macro to use desired axis as spindle

¿No debería este servo ser alimentado por 220V / 380V? Su alarma significa del manual: "Una alarma que ocurre cuando el voltaje del bus de CC está por debajo de 200 V cuando la alarma de bajo voltaje no está encendida".

I'm glad I could help :)

Yes - the pulse is working at 5V. I didn't connect the pins 9/10 as I wasn't using the DC control line in the driver.

GBWM - Welding Machining CNC Thanks. This advice has been useful. I haven’t had success but I’ll keep experimenting and reading the manual. I find it fairly confusing. I’m just using the arduino for tests. If my wiring is right then I guess it could be the pulses or function parameter settings, I’ll keep testing

@@MarsMoonEuropa fingers crossed :D

In step/dir mode you shouldn't be able to move the shaft if there are no signals being send to the driver. Also my motor doesn't have a brake - it just holds by itself. About the delay - I have no clue what could be the reason

I did use these servos for my CNC milling machine (can be seen on my channel). Depends what you want to drive. For axis - that's a lot of power. For a spindle - depends on how big, stiff is your lathe (and many other things)

@@GBWM_CNC is there any way i can contact you like discord or something? i would like to share my design with you and get your opinions, because i'm still in the proces of finalizing the design before i purchase everything, i would just like to ask you a few questions not much

What method of control do you use?

Hi! What kind of input control command are you using?

You can use CNC software which I show quite a bit on my channel or a arduino / PLC depending on your application

Sadly i have not used any breaking resistor for now so I cant tell you at this moment.

The brake resistor is only in that case, you spin heavy weight with big inertia, and stop fast. so the servo works as an gernerator. the voltage can go higher than the originate voltage, so the resistor deals with the power. if you have an spindlescrew, you have not enough inertia to go into problems. using as an circular saw with 400mm dia and 3000 rpm, you shoud use the resistors, when power off, or emergency stop or full break. that can easily get voltages above 1000 volts. in best cases your controller will be grilled, even burn. think if it can be more worse, it comes along.

Personally I tried using threading with mach3 and I wasn't succesfull with it. I tried it on my lathe. Actually threading needs an encoder on the spindle which counts the exact RPM of the spindle and adjust the feed speed on the axis doing the feed movement during the threading operation. Mach3 uses only index signals for threading which is not the best in my opinion. LinuxCNC is capable of using spindle encoders and it works quite well on my CNC lathe so it should be good on a router as well - maybe it would be worth trying. For this method you don't need step/dir. It uses just forward / reverse direction of the spindle and like I said - it adjusts the feed to the rotational speed of the spindle. I made some videos on my channel on the topic of threading on LinuxCNC (it works with the cheap parallel port 5 axis breakout boards).

@@GBWM_CNC Well maybe it's worth the time to try out LinuxCNC. I will consider this after i did some research on the topic. I will also check out your videos. Thank you for your help on this matter

@@TD-qg4rv At the begining LinuxCNC seems to be coarse but it's worth trying in my opinion 😄

you need something that can control it - a simple pulse generator or adjustable voltage supply if you don't care for exact positioning or a PLC, Arduino or CNC controller if you're interested in some kind of more accurate postioning

You could try using an oscilloscope like me to check if there is pulse signal on the input

I didn't try. Where I live I have only 230V phases.

Ich habe nicht versucht zu schieben ist weiter als 3000 U / min. Das Analysegerät war ein USB-Oszilloskop ISDS205A - Sie können es bei Aliexpress kaufen - sehr nützlich für seinen Preis :)

I didn't try that. It should work but if you input more than 5V then the motor would want to turn at higher speed than the nominal speed. I can't tell you as I didn't try.

@@GBWM_CNC OK so I got the step/dirpart figured out with a Mach3 board. But I haven't figured out how to use the analog voltage. I think it should be the AVI and ACM pin but there's no voltage difference between them

@@AlexIstEinGott Which mach3 board are you using?

@@GBWM_CNC it is labeled BSMCEO4U-PP

@@AlexIstEinGott I've had that one. You have to supply 10V to the 10V pin (between the 10V and ACM) and then you will get 0-10V between ACM and AVI.

Check 6:10 in this video. There are all crucial informations I think

I was driving it with step/dir signal which can be generated for example from mach3 and analog signal which can be generated from a simply voltage divider with potentiometer. The parameters were set directly on the servo drive.

@@GBWM_CNC thanks.

sure! step/dir is not a problem for arduino

@@GBWM_CNC could you please explain a bit how you could control it from an Arduino? Does this drive have 5v logic input?

Honestly I didn't run in such issue. I used already 3 of these motors and drives and all of those work fine with this configuration so i'm not sure what could cause such problem :/

Yes, the torque chart is constant at the at the range 0-3000 rpm

Do you mean the software for measuring on the laptop? It's the software of my USB oscilloscope

@@GBWM_CNC oh OK thanks a lot

Jak chodzi o opłaty celne to płaciłem bodajże nie tyle cło co podatek i było to jakieś chyba dodatkowe około 20% ceny (napędu i przesyłki). Serwa jeszcze nie montowałem - było kupione tylko na razie na próbę. W tym momencie pracuję nad tokarką CNC, z której budowy planuję wrzucać jakieś materiały tutaj na kanał (osie będą napędzane silnikami krokowymi prawdopodobnie). Być może jak przyjdzie czas na budowę frezarki do metalu to wezmę pod uwagę te serwa do napędu osi, bo mają ogromną przewagę nad silnikami krokowymi tym, że moment obrotowy jest w całym zakresie stały i nie spada wraz ze wzrostem prędkości obrotowej jak to jest w silnikach krokowych. Pozdro! ;)

@@GBWM_CNC po roku kontynuuję:D jak się sprawuje ten napęd? w opisie widziałem, że "encoder 2500 lines" - czy to w kwadraturze, czy w kwadraturze jest 10000 na obrót? Trochę droższe są te serwa z JMC, gdzie są enkodery absolutne 20 bitowe i tak się właśnie zastanawiam co wziąć do zabawy.

@@The_Unobtainium Powiem tak, właśnie jestem w trakcie projektu przeróbki frezarki FUS 200 na CNC i będę te serwa w niej instalował (dokupiłem dwie sztuki jeszcze ostatnio) więc za niedługo wrzucę jakieś filmiki jak się sprawują w takiej konstrukcji. Co do enkodera to nie jestem w stanie odpowiedzieć czy to jest w kwadraturze czy też nie. Słyszałem bardzo dobre opinie i serwach JMC i są też materiały tutaj na KZfaq na ich temat gdzie z powodzeniem ich używają inni. Brałem je też pod uwagę do mojego projektu, jednak przeważył fakt, że wymagają jeszcze dodatkowo też zewnętrznego zasilania, co jest kolejnym kosztem, który trzeba wziąć pod uwagę przez co te serwa z tego filmiku które tutaj testowałem wydają się być dosyć tanie w stosunku do tego co oferują. Praktycznie są niewiele droższe od silników serwo-krokowych (hybrydowych). Za niedługo będę w stanie coś więcej na ich temat powiedzieć po przeprowadzeniu testów praktycznych 😁

@@GBWM_CNC Dzięki za odpowiedź. Z niecierpliwością czekam na dalsze testy i filmy. Odnośnie JMC nie chodziło mi o zerwa zintegrowany (seria iHSV-57...) tylko o zestawy serwo AC z enkoderem 20B, okablowanie i serwowzmaczniacz zasilany z 230VAC. Te zintegrowane iHSV kupiłem dla ekperymentów i są całkiem przyzwoite. Ale kupowałem je z 3-4 lata temu i dużo taniej niż są dostępne teraz. Zasilanie z zasilacza serwerowego 60V/30A.

Jeszcze ważne info - jaki dokładnie model serwowzmacniacza masz? A1SVD czy AASD? Tutaj ciekawa rozmowa (niemiecki) na ich temat: forum.virtualracing.org/threads/ac-servo-controller-a1-svd15-vs-aasd15.124543/

Thank you! Could you explain for what you need this motor? You can easily control its position in positioning mode 90/180/360 degree without any problem. For controlling you can use an arduino / plc / cnc controller (for example rnr board for PC-usb controll) depending on what are your needs. Controlling it is quite similar to standard stepper motors.

@@GBWM_CNC kindly check this link and there are two servo motor used. I need the help to select the two servo motor to move the carwash Arm back and forward. Thanks www.leisuwash.com/product/leisuwash-360-automatic-car-wash-system-touchless/

@@vannansaravanabavan3179 You're going to to make such system yourself? Usually in automatic systems are used PLCs for example siemens s7-1200 which should easilly handle the controll of such servos by step/dir mode (it has to be DC transistor outputs version for the proper output frequency and voltage. There is a function called motion controll which could be used here. This servo I'm showing here is 0.75kW 3000rpm so depending on the rpm you need it should be suitable and it can be controlled by such a PLC.

@@GBWM_CNC yes, I am try to make. Let me find out some information with your answer and thank for your help.can I have your email please. If possible? Thanks

@@vannansaravanabavan3179 Sure, it is: gbemblaze @ gmail.com

Stepper motors movement is like 1 step per 1 pulse (constant angle of rotation). Usually steppers dont have encoders. Servo motors uses the encoder to check if the position is right and if the position is not perfect - it changes the shaft position constantly. From our view it works pretty the same but it works really diffetent. Also servos are usually more precise and the parameters these offer are usually better too. And the servos cost more.

Type in google "aasd series manual" - there are some pdf for this servo driver series

It depends what kind of control signal you push into the servo. Exactly the dir input (low means one direction, high means opposite) or im speed mode below 0V is one direction and over 0V is for the opposite direction.

And of course the power input (in my case 1phase 230V, the output to the motor U V W and the encoder cable). The control should be done through pin 13 and 25.

@@GBWM_CNC is your spindle enabel via pn003=1??

@@alexandernoname1391 Honestly I don't remember but I think pn003 should be 1.

ok found the failure ;) but... the spindle ist licked when 0rpm. you cant turn the spindle. is this right? do you know how to change? thanks

@@alexandernoname1391 You mean you're not able to turn it when it's 0rpm? This is how it should work I guess. Maybe you will be able to turn it off with some kind of external command. Check the manual - there are digital inputs for some commands - i think there should be a command to turn the motor off. Or some kind of parameter which turns it off below a certain rpm.

Which method do you use to control it?

@@GBWM_CNC Hi I'm using step and direction like a stepper motor I am not expirieced with this stuff I made a cnc plasma table but thats it

@@steveu235 You can usually change the direction of servo in CNC software. For example in MACH3 you just check/uncheck the direction pin configuration of the axis you want change directions.

@@GBWM_CNC Okay thanks I'm using a SMC5-5-N-N offline 5 Axis CNC controller Haven't connected it yet maybe it will have a way to reverse the motors like Mach 3. If bad goes to worse ill switch to Mach3 Thanks for the help It was a relief to come across your video to get the pin outs, the Manual is difficult.

@@steveu235 I'm glad I could help 😁

I'll make someday a video about the wiring of my cnc mill which uses this servo. I'll provide a example wiring diagram of it there

@@GBWM_CNC if i dont have a servo motor in real and also adrive is there any simulation software for both could be try for students

Gracias 😁

Sounds great

En el video no estoy usando un CNC BOB sino un PLC para el servocontrol. No utilicé el cambio de modo, así que no puedo ayudarlo, pero hay algo en el manual llamado "Cmode" que debería permitirle cambiar el modo de control configurando el parámetro PN002 en 3 (modo de posición / velocidad). Con suerte, habrá algo sobre eso en el servo manual.

It seems it is only for 220V. But I think I saw servos also made particularly for 120V

To be honest I have no idea. When I put the servo in enable mode - there is always this sound. I saw also other videos on KZfaq with similar servos and they also had this sound. But it isnt so loud in real as on video.

@@GBWM_CNC Thanks, i just hope is not something bad after all or some type of countdown to destruction :).

@@redem.greece me too 😅

It's the sound of PWM

@@DPTech_workroom Anyway to stop it? But does it and when is in position mode only, somewhere i see that is ground interference but not test yet. For now i struggle with functions..

Do you want to use SigIn for servo enable or why do you need the pin9 for the potentiometer?

Alieexpress :)

No idea here.

Yes. Write to me via facebook page if you need.

Я купил это на aliexpress

I paid for it about $300 including taxes

@@GBWM_CNC where

@@fredhebert8592 on aliexpress

@@GBWM_CNC can I ask you a question

@@fredhebert8592 sure

Sadly I didn't use such a setup yet. Sorry

Ok tank You I was loking for it but can't find some thing

Hola mario, pudiste conectarlo? Como se conecta el driver 220 v en mexico?

@@HierroSonRentas si pero es necesario tener una tarjeta de control que tenga de salida lo que requiere el servodriver por ejemplo yo necesito mínimo una tarjeta que me dé de salida mínimo 300 htz

@@MarioGarcia-yd5yj oh ok, muchas gracias, pero me refiero a la alimentación del driver, pues yo solo cuento con 110v y esa pide 220v

To be honest i didnt test it under stress for now. But I am quite sure that 1kW ac servo is a very powerfull drive for an axis motor. What kind of mill are you planning on and for which kind of material?

@@GBWM_CNC I'm planning to build a huge router (2.2m x 3.5m usable field, with the 4th axix at the end of the Y axis) to cut primarily wood plates( i don't know the correct translate 2700x2050 furniture plates) for kitchens, but I want it to cut brass and aluminium easily. Maybe a little steel too, but that is secondary. The frame will be thick steel (except Z axis) like the ShopSabre ones. The X axis will be around 150 kg with the Z axis. Planning to use the ShopSabre's technique for anti-backlash with the rotated ball screw sollution. ( 2x1kw Y motors) The gear ratio will be 1 cycle / cm for the motors. So the axis's speed can be around 42 cm / sec. The resolution for the motors that way is around 0.002mm. ( By the way, i'm not a "do it" person, I'm a 3d graphic artist... a simple hammer looks awful in my hands :D so this is the biggest project of my life so far :D )

​@@Bodni Sounds great! I think 2x1kW servos for 1 axis is a lot of power. Necessarily the mill has to be mounted well on the geometrical side so there is no resistance on the guides of the axis which is the biggest problem in my opinion. Also on cutting metals the mill has to be rigid (especially for steel). It's hard to make a wood/steel mill as usually wood needs a lot of rpm on the spindle while steel needs lot of torque when cutting. Also when you want to use ballscrews for such long axis you have to consider ballscrew whip phenomenon. At this moment I made just one cnc mill (you can see on other video) for wood cutting and it performs quite well but when it comes to big routers - I didn't make any for now so I can't give you much hints. My next project will be a mini CNC lathe for steel so hopefully i will learn more about the CNC stuff as I really enjoy it. I wish you best luck and I hope you will share your machine later!

​@@GBWM_CNC Sounds cool! I'm planning to record all the pre-work and the actual work with the cnc build (from the finished plan, using camera tracking on the empty place to see how it will be looking, ect :) Basically start a youtube series. I learned a lot from here, and I vant to give something back. And on the other hand it is basically free self-advertise. (all my savings will go to this machine, so I will better document ewerything :D ) About the Ballscrew whip: I found an elegant sollution: The ballscrew is stationary, and the ball nut is spinning by the motors. That way there are no whip, and the ballscrew's innertia force is basically non existent. ( will be a bit tricky to build it tho' ) that way I can use a 4m long ballscrew with a thinner (cheaper) diameter. the trick is using 2 ballnuts for zero backlash, or a preloaded one. I'm now at the planning phase, I'm re-modelling now i think the 4th time, cause I'll daily learning something important about the subject. And cause all my savings going to this project I want to be thorough with everything. Wish you too the best! Keep up the good work! :)

@@Bodni 1KW servo motor gives you 4NM continuous torque and 12NM peak. With a 5mm pitch ball screw you get between 5KN to 15KN force. If you have 100KG mass to move (Z axis assembly for instance) it can do it at 5G to 15G. At 3000RPM you get 200mm/sec and it will accelerate in 2ms (0.2m/sec divided by 50m/sec/sec). Plenty of power. I have a 750W on my mill and the head assembly with motor, spindle and housing is 85Kg. Moves it like is nobodies business

Yeah, i did it for test purposes just like that - I had a spare plug and I connected it like on the video to my 230V 50hz 1 phase power outlet at home. It worked as shown on the video. :)

A czym chcesz sterować ten silnik? Bo aby wykonał jeden obrót musi na wejściu sterującym dostać odpowiednią ilość impulsów która będzie odpowiadać jednemu pełnemu obrotowi wału. Można to wykonać zarówno na sterowniku cnc, arduino jak i plc

@@GBWM_CNC Mach 3 - 5 osi teraz steruje sobie ręcznie przypisanymi przyciskami z klawiatury ale chciałbym aby to działało tak, że wpisuję kod i servo robi i obrót prawo/lewo, czy jest to do zrobienia?

@@PSS_1 bez problemu. Starczy wpisac G-code ręcznie z taką wartością jaka pozwoli na obrót silnika o jeden obrót zależnie jak jest oś ustawiona w mach3

@@GBWM_CNC tak, tylko u mnie wpisałem numer osi pod która mam podpiete serwo np oś obrotowa B i wartość 1 czyli B1 i oś serva powinna wykonać 1 pełny obrót - a nie wykonała i nie wiem co trzeba ustawić aby był 1 obrót

@@PSS_1 a masz odpowiednią ilość impulsów na 1 obrót ustawioną w mach3? Oś w ogóle wykonuje jakiś ruch?

Depends if you need smooth regulation. If you need just some speeds like 200, 500 and 2800 rpm then you can use internal speed commands and pop them up by using input command signals. If you need smooth regulation then you will need some kind of voltage source for example using an potentiometer (I used a voltage divider made with a potentiometer).

@@GBWM_CNC Alright thank you! i was able to make it spin from the internal commands. but that is so slow to do every time

@@niksechtniks So the potentioneter 0-10v signal generator might be what you need :)

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what do you mean?

Could you explain? You mean using it as spindle drive?

@@GBWM_CNC Yes. So I'm able to use it dual model speed and position but can't find a way to align the spindle for let's say a tool change. I could not find a way to have the shaft move a certain number of pulses relative to the Z index from the encoder. I can stop the shaft from an external REF signal coming into one of the SIGin pins but is not guaranteeing a certain absolute position from the REF signal occurrence. I know some of the real spindle drives allows you to input a number in the driver which gives the rotation angle relative to a Z position index so when it's stopped from rotation goes into that position. I was hoping these servos will do the same but apparently not

@@car9167 Honestly I don't think it has such a function. For spindle driving the speed mode is probably suitable but for toolchange I'm not sure. Btw are you talking about a standard pneumatic ATC or rotating the spindle for a drawbar tool change? Also I'm thinking of if there is a function that would let the servo put in certain speed or step/dir when a SIGin pin is activated - then the spindle could be controlled by the CNC controller as an additional CNC axis.

@@GBWM_CNC There is a way to run the servo dual mode speed/positioning. You assign the Cmode command on an Sigin pin. You out the Vref voltage on the two pins and drive it in speed. When voltage is 0 the motor is stopped and you can use the Cmode to switch to positioning. By feeding steps on the positionling lines it moves like a positioning servo driven by steps. You can switch back and forth. I just tested yesterday with my 3.8KW servo. I have the same drive as yours just bigger. I was planning to use it as spindle drive. I have a BT40 spindle. If interested in this dual mode I can share the configuration just let me know

I have this CNC controller for 5 axis www.szghauto.com/product/66.html I can use one of the axis to drive the servomotor as a spindle. I can do orientation in software and drive the servo with the two quadrature signals. The issue is I lose an axis and I was planning - long term - to have my CNC run with 5 axis. This controller has the software and IO pins for an ATC as well. It can also use one of the axis to drive the ATC itself. Again you will lose an axis doing that. But it can be done externally without using an axis

Why disable? Let it be alive! 😁

@@GBWM_CNC I have the same PC Board as you, tried everything and can't get voltage out of it to run the 0-10v. Haven't tried step yet. Building the the adapter for the motor...

@@cr2fabrication Which PC board? The LPT BOB or a USB CNC Board? I used both and both of them need external voltage supply for for the 0-10V output to get it work

@@GBWM_CNC They call it the 5 axis cnc mach3 board, its parallel port with the usb power, and yes I have a 12 volt power supply on it. I'm thinking it's a bad board, all the axis work, but not the 0-10v

@@cr2fabrication Did you check out my video about connecting it to a VFD? Here's the link - it might help: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hpyoq6ubm9e9g3U.html

Agree

oh you!

Masz instrukcję do nich? Bo nie wiem co może powodować szarpanie, ale warto by może było przejrzeć wszystkie parametry w instrukcji. Jakbyś nie miał instrukcji to mogę podesłać.

Ta przekładnia może być za mała do tego serwa. Problem będzie tkwił w tym, że nie dasz rady go zestroić dlatego objawem będzie szarpania. Zmień przekładnie na większą a zobaczysz, że będzie znacząca poprawa. Kolejne pytanie to ile zębów ma zębatka? W instrukcji na pewno jest jaką maksymalną drogę może przejechać serwo na jeden pełny obrót. Miałem kiedyś taki kłopot i wymiana przekładni pomogła.

@@krzysztofcebula2502 cześć jutro sprawdzę ile ma zębów ostatnio zamiast serwa zamontowałem silnik krokowy i ładnie to pracuje zapraszam na forum założyłem tam wątek www.cnc.info.pl/frezarka-4000x2500-synchronizacja-serw-t108795.html#p751264 Pozdrawiam

Great! Im glad it helped. I'll check out 😉

3:23 and 6:09 connection details explained my disliking friend :)

Can you explain? Sorry for the late response

@@GBWM_CNC tanks, in manual book, I read, to active CW is swich pin 9 and 6,and , I see in your video pin 9 and 6 not connect to the controller boad,