Should've installed a shut off valve in the basement
@boby1155 жыл бұрын
I have been a gas fitter/ service technician for 35 years for the gas utility in St Louis Missouri and would like to go over some of the shortcomings in this video. Number one ,before turning the gas off to the home you should do a general inspection of all the gas appliances that are about to be turned off. Number two, any Appliance with a standing pilot should be turned off manually and the pilot safety proven ( this procedure will eliminate any air being sucked in throughput pilot assemblies and assure you the pilot safeties are working ). Number three, turn electrical controlled gas appliances off at the thermostat so units do not call for heat while you have the gas turned off. Number four, turn the gas off like shown in the video. Number 5, replace the the pipe nipple like shown in the video with one difference ( replace the extremely old core type shut off with a new ballcock style valve and all used flex connectors should be replaced with a new one).. Number 5, install the anti-tip device the gas range was shipped with, this is a national code requirement ,no exceptions. Number 6, a low(inchs) pressure test with a manometer should be performed before the gas is turned back on. The days of spotting the test hand on the gas meter are over ,due to the use of smart meters.The tolerances of the multiple drives on the index cause a spot test to be inaccurate. Number seven, keep the manometer on the system so the incoming gas pressures can be tested. If any discrepancies are found in the gas pressure ,turn the gas back off and immediately contact your gas supplier ASAP. Number eight, after the work & tests are completed the gas can be turned back on to the fuel run system. Always turn gas systems on in a very slow manner. Number 9, test the work that was performed with an electronic leak detector and approved soap solution. Number 10, since the gas was turned off to the entire home you just became responsible for all the gas appliances not just the one you installed. This means that you are not just checking the installed gas appliance for safe and proper operation but you are checking all gas appliances for safe and proper operations. As Richard said this type of work should only be performed buy a licensed and experienced technician.Also one familiar with the current codes and latest Technical Training. The gas industry is a rapidly changing industry. The problem I am seeing is the lack of experienced and well-trained people. This is becoming all too obvious ( the over pressurized gas Mains in Andover , North Andover and Lawrence Massachusetts, killing one and injuring multiple people. The damage gas Main in Durham, North Carolina hit by a directional bore machine; 2 dead and multiple people injured. House explosion in Texas, killing a teenaged cheerleader making breakfast Saturday before practice). This all happened recently and I feel all were preventable through proper training and experience. The test equipment and materials we use now have never been better, so this leaves me to believe the Lac of training and experience can be the only cause of all these incidents.
@Noah-qt3rq5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this Bob.
@carlitosaqui5 жыл бұрын
Just wondering since I don't live in CONUS, In a cement with tile flooring do you still use the anti-tipping device?
@DONALD19515 жыл бұрын
No need to check pilot safeties till after when you relight the pilots. Soap and water is adequate. No need for a manometer. Gas has to be turned on slowly in a high pressure system. If controls aren’t functioning on the other appliances notify the homeowner and they have to pay. Obviously, you didn’t cause the problem. He should have tightened the nipple going through the floor beneath the floor...not from above...ok to start it from above but you want to be right at the connection while tightening...then go upstairs and screw together one at a time.
@boby1155 жыл бұрын
@@DONALD1951 pilot safeties you are correct, don't care if you check them first or last as long as they are checked. Problem found on a customer's equipment, customer always pays. If you restore gas to a hazardous Appliance and indeed you're the one that left it on, if something happens you just became one of the liable. You are correct on tightening the nipples at the particular fitting you're going into. There's no way Richard got that nipple started upstairs( perhaps one of the cameramen helped him get it started ? ). This is the 21st century , tick rate electronic Leak Detectors and approved soap solution is the only way to go. We are creatures of habit, if you turn on all gas systems slowly the chances of making a mistake are minimized ( you are correct that was a low pressure system most likely 7 " water column, since there's no regulator there would be no chance on rupturing the diaphragm if you turned it on rapidly but even at 7 " why would you want to slam you're gas controls?). I'm not sure why you would not want to use a manometer to check pressures and pressure test the total system. By you turning off the gas utility & turning it back on you just became one of the liable ones. So what you're telling me is no information on the gas system is better than information. Having been involved with depositions and trial testimonies in the gas industry I can assure you ,no need for a manometer is something you do not want to tell the trial attorney. You may want to make sure your insurance premiums are paid.
@poeticthoughts065 жыл бұрын
k.
@MoparDan3 жыл бұрын
"You were a great help." He didn't do a Goddamn thing!
@mollysaetern54663 жыл бұрын
he was a great actor.
@smzslider3 жыл бұрын
He helped move the stove 💪
@bobtopper7867 Жыл бұрын
He stayed the hell out of the way. For him that was as much as he was going to help 😅
@nicks37016 ай бұрын
It’s 5:25 am and I can’t stop laughing
@harveysmith63375 жыл бұрын
Fail! That gas valve should have been replaced with a ball valve. Shame on you guys.
@mikemarlowe61023 жыл бұрын
Richard : I’m a professional, that why I can say “lefty loosie”
@sylkelster5 ай бұрын
(Generally speaking) Pros don't have to refer to rhymes to remember tightening / loosening sequences.
@coleve85965 жыл бұрын
First thing is not to shut off the gas, but to carry out a soundness or tightness test to ascertain if there are any leaks on the existing system and again when completed. This way you know which part you have a leak on. Secondly all he had to do was remove the valve above the floor and insert a 90 degree bend and refit.
@DONALD19515 жыл бұрын
Colin Nicol Do a complete pipe leak test to do a simple repair...never done. There wasn’t enough room to just put a 90 on top.
@timtaffinder4 жыл бұрын
I like how the title is "How To" but then he goes on to say "This should only be done by a licensed professional"
@machzel084 жыл бұрын
By showing you How To you are now more informed. You know the procedure so you can speak more intelligently when describing your problem to a trained professional.
@RoastBeefSandwich3 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't do it yourself, but if you're going to anyway here's how to do it"
@zack99120003 жыл бұрын
He also shows the wrong way to do it btw. He didn't replace the old worn out valve and didn't do a leak check
@tselinsky64523 жыл бұрын
@@RoastBeefSandwich my thoughts exactly, more like "since you're going to anyway'
@aldenrichie3 жыл бұрын
This is just for liability. "This is how a professional would do it.... But if you do it and blow yourself up we can say we told you not to" lol
@sylkelster5 ай бұрын
Nice well lit basement area. I would vacuum the top of that elbow below the floor to remove dust and debris from falling in the pipe.
@tastemystuff5 жыл бұрын
5:52 Pushed the stove back without connecting the power plug. 6:22 "Well you were a great help." Richard did all the work except moving the stove.
@JohnSmith-ji1hl5 жыл бұрын
it's been edited u doofus you wanna see him remove his tools from the work truck and cleanup after too?
@demonknight79655 жыл бұрын
@toilet brush nope. the kids could climb on it then it would roll and shut them in the oven or tip over on them.
@mikec44095 жыл бұрын
He also pushed the stove back in before turning the gas back on in the basement. So he didn't check for leaks in the new work behind the stove.
@3lueDemon4 жыл бұрын
If properly done, you should be able to remove the warmer drawer to access the shutoff and outlet... And also remember it's a TV show clipped together from many shots...
@morbo30005 жыл бұрын
Maybe clean the dirty connection you're about to reattach the pipe to. You can see the threads screwing into dirt.
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
That's typical of him, the hack
@fizwin12 жыл бұрын
I vacuum everything before and after I take it apart
@bigvegass5 жыл бұрын
Came in for comments from ",experts". Was not disappointed
@daveclark83373 жыл бұрын
Hey, as a Certified Master Keyboard Plumber, I resemble that remark.
@bkoz3195 жыл бұрын
i would have replaced that gas valve
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
Eggsackly. And he didn't check the fittings behind the stove with leak detector
@kalijasin4 жыл бұрын
@bkoz319, agreed. it looked a little worn out.
@MikeJonesRichardson4 жыл бұрын
Agree
@alexveitia69094 жыл бұрын
Another hack job by Richard.
@RusherResiElectric4 жыл бұрын
Amen, while you have it apart, take the time to put a new shutoff valve on.
@phillipkirby5023 жыл бұрын
New gas stop at stove. Teflon tape on threads plus green pipe dope that is made for gas lines... At least that is how we would do it in Kentucky.
@nicholasbrehm79895 жыл бұрын
If you're going though all that trouble you should have changed out the valve. I work for a gas company and I can't tell you how many times I go to house for leaks on older valve like that.
@AirARTBBQ5 жыл бұрын
Ive always change those valves and at the end of the yr. I have just enough for two buckets of brass.
@jason-ge5nr5 жыл бұрын
i assure you thats why he did not show leak checking that part of the install. Cause that valve is leaking.
@anthonyevans71293 жыл бұрын
Always change those isolation valves since you shut the gas off anyway lol those older ones always leak
@AlBracco8793 жыл бұрын
In Westerchester county NY it’s illegal to operate the gas meter valve or any valve before the meter . The utility company must be notified by a licensed certified gas plumber Also when ever a meter valve is operated an integrity test has to be preformed to verify the pipes integrity
@EternallyThankful-os6pz2 жыл бұрын
No wonder people are leaving New York in droves...too many rules to sig hiel to !!
@bobshanery515211 ай бұрын
Good lord. This is good old government ever expanding nonsense. I should know.. I worked for these programs. In my opinion 90% of it is just to forever increase and expand/funding, control people (usually small business) and collecting fees. That 10% is the only part of any benefit to the working class citizens.
@kennethwood208910 ай бұрын
The NY crowd must have moderate common-sense lacking.@@EternallyThankful-os6pz
@telosfd7 ай бұрын
Most of all i like the way that man used pipe wrenches!
@jean-clauded58234 жыл бұрын
I would have also replaced the gas valve, and I would have leak tested the connections behind the stove before putting it back. CSST pipe is fragile, and you opened a compression fitting then re-closed it, which can often leak.
@Dfk429S9fo310 ай бұрын
That's a flare fitting, not a compression fitting.
@jean-clauded582310 ай бұрын
@@Dfk429S9fo3 excuse me, you are correct, but T the same time if you read the package the gas line comes in when new, it says not to reuse the pipe once fastened.
@ethanhartle85485 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but one question. If this is too dangerous for a homeowner, why did they make a how to video?
@BEsterle5 жыл бұрын
They just have to say it is to dangerous to appease the lawyers...
@machzel085 жыл бұрын
Its not necessarily how-to, its how-its-done. So that when you hire someone you understand what they are doing. Or if you see a problem you know how to solve it and who to call.
@Arieeeee5 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to know how something works, even if you end up hiring someone to do it. I like to work on my car when I can but even if I take it to the mechanic to do something that's out of my skillset, it's still nice to have the general idea of what's going on.
@CarlosVladymir5 жыл бұрын
@@machzel08 gosthbusters
@erictold5 жыл бұрын
Homeowner can do by themselves whatever they want. It’s legal as long as they pull the permit. No license is required if it’s done by the homeowner. Modifying gas lines require building permit even if it’s done by licensed plumbers. However, since only few plumber pull permit, almost all works done by plumbers like this video are illegal.
@jackmule15724 жыл бұрын
Recommended: Install elbow, so flexible hose wont get dammage.
@beachbums20085 жыл бұрын
You tested the pipe connection under the floor where the 6"pipe screwed in for gas leaks but the other in above the floor that got connected to the gas shutoff valve I did not see you test for leaks on the black pipe or flex hose that connects to the stove. Keep the videos coming. They are very tutorial for the average home owner
@bigt40505 жыл бұрын
I hate seeing pipe wrenches on hex fittings but still a good video.
@inssan65505 жыл бұрын
Adjustable spanner on the valve and stillson on the fitting, schmoo all over the taper / compression fittings (clearly set up for the video it's so new), didn't purge the pipe before disconnecting... This old house seems to have turned into Killing yourself for dummies!
@WilliamDye-willdye5 жыл бұрын
@@inssan6550 I'm guessing the editor decided to skip showing the purge step, to save time. Still, it might've been good to mention that detail for anyone using this video as a DIY guide. As for using an adjustable wrench, "it ain't what ya do, it's how ya do it". Every pro I've seen, in various fields, develops shortcuts. Sometimes it's a bad shortcut, but often it works just fine if you know what you're doing. In ither words, I bet those fittings were not damaged.
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamDye-willdye using pipe wrenches or pliers on hex fittings is total hack
@oldschooldiy32404 жыл бұрын
And the homeowner still does not have an inline gas shutoff for the stove......SMH
@surgio983 жыл бұрын
Okay. Few tips. If you think you want to risk doing it yourself. 1. Before you even move your stove check the main shutoff works by running the stove burners. Get a fire going on all burners. The gas should get consumed and stop. Otherwise call a pro. 2. Replace the valve with a ball joint valve that can be turned off by hand. These things fail in time and better to fix it while you have it disassembled. 3. Get a gas leak detector (about 20 bucks on Amazon/ebay) they are better than the "bubble" methods. Play with it before hand using the burner (no fire, on low) but keep the windows open. So you know how it works. 4. Not sure if they covered this but don't untighten the pipe. Be sure to stop when you need to. Reversing the pipe will mess up the seal the "dope/tread sealant" creates.
@Jesse-gv9tf3 жыл бұрын
This seems easy enough for an afternoon project.
@averyalexander23035 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that he reused that old gas valve! Those old gas valves are notorious for leaking. Also, you shouldn't need a tool to shut the valve off, which is yet another reason to replace it.
@bludika5 жыл бұрын
just exactly my thoughts, i bet that valve is not even up to code anymore, the stove is out of the way and the gas pipe is new, why would you not put a brand new brass gas valve on it? wtf
@averyalexander23035 жыл бұрын
@@bludika I would be very surprised if that valve is code compliant. Not only would you need a tool to operate it, it probably isn't approved by UL or any other reputable laboratory either. In some areas, replacing the gas valve and/or connector is required when the appliance is replaced as well.
@antonshadyrya20884 жыл бұрын
But hey it was done by licensed professional
@kalijasin4 жыл бұрын
@Avery Alexander, it looked worn out. Should of been replaced. He probably going off the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” though.
@christopherbonanno11205 жыл бұрын
What left old gas valve. 🤦♂️. It’s a 10 dollar part new ones you can turn off by hand don’t need to look for a wrench. And what about anti tip device. Man said it’s a new stove. Guess that went in the trash O brother
@antonshadyrya20884 жыл бұрын
Vince Black hey but it was done by professional :P
@kalijasin4 жыл бұрын
@Vince Black, it looked worn out. Should of been replaced. He probably going off the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” though.
@alexveitia69094 жыл бұрын
Another hack job by Richard the master plumber.
@Bandito5184 жыл бұрын
He uses the pipe wrench taking the flex line off when a crescent wrench would have worked fine, then he tightens the pieces back up using the pipe wrenches backwards....😭
@Finnigann25803 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a street "L" have been a better choice instead of making the shut-off valve harder to reach?
@HN-gj2iq Жыл бұрын
Good point, a ball valve with a handle facing the right way would have been best.
@baltazarlopez27435 жыл бұрын
Richard , don’t be a hack . Why not replace the shut off valve and put in a new gas flex??
@HAMRADIOJOE41785 жыл бұрын
IT HAD A SHUT OFF AT THE STOVE.
@Arieeeee5 жыл бұрын
In a world without an unlimited budget, you have to stop somewhere. In an older home especially you can really easily go down a rabbit hole of fixing one thing and seeing something else and updating that, then finding something else. He was there to do a job and did it.
@walterbrunswick5 жыл бұрын
@@Arieeeee New gas shutoff valves are like $20 a piece. Please. I'm a gas fitter in Toronto (Canada) and whenever I get a chance to replace an old valve like this, I do it.
@Arieeeee5 жыл бұрын
And you don't charge for your time? I should hire you.
@walterbrunswick5 жыл бұрын
@@Arieeeee Usually I factor in the cost into the job. The extra time of, 1) unscrewing the nipple from the old valve, 2) cleaning the threads, 3) applying PTFE tape (much superior to pipe dope), 4) screwing in a new valve, ... is negligible. If a technician/installer can't sacrifice an extra 10 minutes of their time to do a job right, get someone else. I've gone home at 2:30 a.m. finishing a boiler install that needed to get done.
@Mike__B5 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? Looked like there was a shutoff for the stove... right behind the stove even though he said there's no shut off for the stove... or there needs to be a shutoff before the shuttoff in case you need to replace the shutoff? then do you need a shutoff before that shutoff if you want to work on that shut off... heck just put in shutoffs all the way to the meter and hope that first one doesn't have a problem! And I'm not sure if it was the angle the shot was taken at, but it looks like replacing the nipple right above the shutoff with a 90 would put that below the recess of the stove, then you can add your flexible and call it a day.
@TheOtherBill5 жыл бұрын
He needed to work on the supply side of that shutoff at the stove.
@Mike__B5 жыл бұрын
@@TheOtherBill And again... looked like shutting off the gas right at the source then put a 90 on the end with maybe a smaller nipple would have been possible.
@tonymarony15 жыл бұрын
you are right, all he needed to do was first replace that old shut off, then a street 90, then a nipple, then the flared fitting. People you do not need pipe dope on flared fittings as was shown by the previous installer.
@TheOtherBill5 жыл бұрын
Mike B Always best to use as few fittings as possible.
@andrewdarbyshire91085 жыл бұрын
tonymarony1 street 90’s are against code in some places now.
@sziltner5 жыл бұрын
Now that's a real old fashioned "cellar"! Reminded me of my parents "cellar".
@salvatoresaccoccio23795 жыл бұрын
When I was in trade school with the union in New York we would have to add lamp wick to the threads , gas or water it didn’t matter also a pressure test on the gas line.
@zomgosz15035 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you replace that valve with a newer ball valve? Don't those have tenancy to leak over time?
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes.
@grk6512 жыл бұрын
Who ever connected it last made a big mistake. you do not put pipe dope on a flair fitting.
@carlmax463 жыл бұрын
gas line near stove should have a drip leg. would have been easy to add.
@WilliamSmith-pz5nw2 жыл бұрын
Why? Not required
@carlmax462 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamSmith-pz5nw it is required in many places. And it is good design practice even if not required.
@WilliamSmith-pz5nw2 жыл бұрын
@@carlmax46 Ok Just don't see the reasoning behind it.
@Dfk429S9fo310 ай бұрын
@@carlmax46 why would you need a drip leg when the pipe is already vertical?
@43wagonwheel5 ай бұрын
Why doesn't Richard use actual wrenches that fit the fittings? I never see this. Its always pipe wrenches or adjustable pliers. Wonder why?
@carlmax463 жыл бұрын
better to move stove gas shutoff valve to basement so it is accessible before moving the stove (now a legal requirement in some locations). best to replace the gas valve or repack it (by trained professional).
@MrJaminx2 Жыл бұрын
Just have one in both places.
@randy58943 жыл бұрын
"You definitely need a licensed professional for this" proceeds to screw and unscrew pipes.
@josehuertas24412 жыл бұрын
He's Master Plummer ..
@tenzinlama5429 Жыл бұрын
I was always told that once u remove the gas stove connection u get a new one to replace it. Was I duped into buying those connector kit again. ??
@zack99120003 жыл бұрын
Another hack job by Richard, "it's too unsafe, pro only" yet he screwed up. How about replace that worn out shutoff valve and do a simple leak check on all fittings and not just the one when you are done.
@fizwin12 жыл бұрын
Also, he re-used a gas FLEX line!!!!
@tonyangelo16605 жыл бұрын
Slam those pipe wrenches down on those countertops...lol
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and he should be using crescent wrenches on the hex nut fittings.
@davidnuzum77764 жыл бұрын
Exactly. How many home owners wouldn't loose their minds if you threw 2 pipe wrenches down on a new granite countertop. Not to mention he could have installed a st 90 and would have had clearance and wouldnt have had to turn the main off just the stove shut off. But hes a trained professional. LOL
@jonathancatron93774 жыл бұрын
Tony Angelo it’s ok he’s using those new fangled aluminum ones...don’t take a real man to use them.
@stuntz0rZ Жыл бұрын
Rich forgot to apply yellow teflon first before the sealent. OH NO! I can't get a perfect seal without both combined. I bet you 100% there is a smell gas leak there.
@knutbaardsen64373 жыл бұрын
So you didnt put a shut off valve on line?
@xXAnchormonXx3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t spend an extra 6.99 on a new shut off. Killing me.
@AStanton19663 жыл бұрын
It ain't easy being cheesy.
@WilliamDye-willdye5 жыл бұрын
Does torque matter in threaded plumbing connections? It seems like the standard is to just get plenty of threads in place so that it won't pop out, regardless of torque needed, and then check for leaks.
@ozziesheppard175 жыл бұрын
The pipe used is called NTP or national pipe thread taper. The pipe threads get wider as they go along so basically just tighten it until the pipe is very tight. However if you crank ridiculously hard with a long handle you can over tighten and push the pipe past the threads and possible cause leaks. But a normal persons idea of very tight isnt near over tightening these. IIRC there is code for actual lbpounds of torque for some fittings. but cant remember off the top of my head.
@conqwiztadore22135 жыл бұрын
i was told 7-8 full turns, 3 of them by hand the rest are by wrenches? for water anyway, idk about gas
@andrewdarbyshire91085 жыл бұрын
William Dye the pressure on the pipe is very low, 3.5 inch w.c. Natural gas and 11 inch w.c. Propane. So it would have to be very loose or very over tighten to actually leak.
@ozziesheppard175 жыл бұрын
@@conqwiztadore2213 Really depends on the threading, Some are a turn ahead, some are a turn slower.
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
It's a judgement call. Use your mechanical intuition.
@reaperbot52264 жыл бұрын
why not pop a extra shutoff value in the direct line from gas meter that leads to stove for future maintenance. maybe even pop on a 90 to the new end. so you'll have more waggle room for future stove upgrades.
@Dave-ld3dr9 ай бұрын
Any need to use a new hose or fitting?Many say to use a new hose kit.I think as long as it’s not damaged it should be fine.What do you think?
@edjay3955 ай бұрын
Up here in Canada, gas flexes are a 1 time use..a liability issue
@frankpesce30822 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you
@rafaelmorales40704 жыл бұрын
To see them using LOTO on the gas main would have been nice.
@MoparDan3 жыл бұрын
Boy you're an idiot!
@Dfk429S9fo310 ай бұрын
Was some random crackhead going to come in the house and turn it back on in the 5 minutes it was turned off?
@bsm67765 жыл бұрын
He didn’t install a shutoff lol
@izzynutz20004 жыл бұрын
I understand that there's probably nothing wrong with it but why did he not put a new style shut off valve instead of the old square stub? And when he was down in the basement he said that the branch line going to the stove did not have a shut off is he relying on the one that was existing?
@maxcarrizales2285 Жыл бұрын
If there’s something I hate is guys putting tools ( especially heavy steel tools ) on top of clients nice countertops and floors. Use a rag or a piece of carton bro! Or a tool bag. Especially if they just replaced they’re countertops or flooring. Bad practice
@kenf90895 жыл бұрын
How old was that gas supply valve?
@andrewdarbyshire91085 жыл бұрын
ken f old enough that it should’ve been replaced.
@randymathews33485 жыл бұрын
Don't matter, they're one use only in my book
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
@@randymathews3348 not true on the one use only. but should have updated the valve
@nostradumbass49844 жыл бұрын
One thing I have noticed watching these videos is that all the pipes in America are never secured properly, Meters and meters of pipe, running in all directions, not fastend to the wall or anything. Apparently, even gas lines. They seem to be so strict about "code" when laying waste water pipes; everything has to be according to the all mighty "code", but really important things like gas lines are not controlled in any way. WTF???? What is the sense of a main shut off valve at the meter that you need a wrench to turn it??? In an emergency, you don´t always have a wrench handy.
@RidgePowerEquipment2 жыл бұрын
0:28 looks like pipe dope on the compression fitting.
@kencrane64205 жыл бұрын
No sediment trap?
@DONALD19515 жыл бұрын
Ken C Not usually on a range. The sediment drops below and there should be a drip leg on the water heater and furnace.
@king493345 жыл бұрын
Pipe dope.on everything
@readmore36345 жыл бұрын
_____it can't hurt....it helps make up the thread smoothly (no balling up of metal in the threads)....and makes it so you can take it apart again someday.
@TexasExperience3 жыл бұрын
CAUTION!!!! Always bleed out the line by starting the stove top till the flame goes out, otherwise flammable gas just goes into the air
@nastyhvacr3 жыл бұрын
The amount of gas left is negligible, at worst it would give a small flame for a second. Nothing to worry about honestly . You could always unthread the fitting slowly to allow a slow release. I work with combustible refrigerants, and proper procedure is to cut lines and vent, there is very little danger
@pamgonzales9030 Жыл бұрын
What if the gas range says it needs to be x amount of space from back wall??
@fedexho5 жыл бұрын
Why not a 90 off the valve?
@alant57574 жыл бұрын
The pipe was too high... watch the video again.
@atlfreakdaddy4 жыл бұрын
The pipe was right at 11 inches, if he had taken the old valve off and installed a 90 and then a new valve he would have been well under 11".
@darrinscoilsclouds14984 жыл бұрын
Come on bro you should know that old gas valve is against code. Once you removed it it was your responsibility to change it. Those old valves leak.
@_1ben4 жыл бұрын
What is the code you are talking about?
@anthonyevans71293 жыл бұрын
Once you shut the gas from the Meter definitely change the old isolation valve and the flex hose.. both can leak at some point once the gas is pressurized back into the system
@ninjacommando10R4 жыл бұрын
Smh. No new line valve?
@jessewilliams55622 жыл бұрын
Isn’t there a need to purge the entire system to get all the gas out of the line?
@exmember16074 жыл бұрын
3:11 story of my life...
@EternallyThankful-os6pz2 жыл бұрын
In our jurisdiction - it is considered UNprofessional to re-use the old style gas valves ( that have brass levers or knobs ) at the appliance - if you take one out , you should replace it with the new style.
@Katana_00 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised he reused it.
@reynoldspc5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you carry out a proper soundness test using a U gauge or pressure tester as you can't see the soap solution on the threads beneath the cooker isolation valve as those threads are withing the thickness of the floorboard....
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
Because he's a hacker. An 8" nipple and a new shut off would have been the best way to make the replacement. And absolutely, check all of the fittings behind the stove with leak detector.
@juniormedina92822 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to run a gas and water line behind studs ??
@setharp27 Жыл бұрын
Does this type of job require any permits or contact with the city or gas company? We need to do this in our house but want to make sure we’re doing it right
@martinluthierking Жыл бұрын
did you watch and listen any of the video?
@snapperkc93175 жыл бұрын
Why not soap test all points of connection that you worked with?
@andrewdarbyshire91085 жыл бұрын
SnapperKC cause its not needed.
@snapperkc93175 жыл бұрын
Andrew Darbyshire , why isn’t it needed? Why is it necessary to soap only one end of the new pipe?
@DONALD19515 жыл бұрын
It IS needed and required...every fitting from the elbow in the basement to the connection at the range.
@billsmith92495 жыл бұрын
these are video CLIPS. they don't show everything. They're not intended as a "how to" only a basis for information so that the average homeowner might have a better understanding of what will be needed going into a project and what to look for and how to talk to a licensed contractor
@snapperkc93175 жыл бұрын
bill smith Thanks for your response....makes a lot of sense.
@brooklynboi11207 Жыл бұрын
Bad enough he didn’t install a shutoff valve in the basement, but also reinstalled that old valve behind the stove..
@readmore36345 жыл бұрын
Lesson #1_____Call me...I'm a master plumber._____Lesson #2____ See lesson #1
@HolyElkGaming5 жыл бұрын
Putting your home at risk, negating your insurance if it goes wrong, is not worth saving a few bucks. This video is not the best video. Many of the other comments talk about the short comings, but we are not here to teach ppl how to be gas fitters on KZfaq, so again hire a professional.
@wic.kedkool2 жыл бұрын
This guy is probably thinking "I could of save alot of money"!! People over think gas.
@flat-earther5 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard at 5:30 why pipe not against the back of the jaw for 3 points of contact, thanks
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
Because he's a hypocrite, and a hack.
@highguyhere5 жыл бұрын
Should have used teflon tape and pipe dope. Especially with gas. It is mandatory in the field.
@rkn7004 жыл бұрын
As long as it the correct tape. Only yellow, never white or blue. Using the wrong tape and dope on the flare will get a flag from the gas company
@denisrhodes544 жыл бұрын
Rubber Lynn don’t put anything on the flare
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
@@rkn700 no tape. Gasoila is the best. 🥇
@gunsnstuff4040 Жыл бұрын
Why not give them a new shut off? That old valve is a problem waiting to happen.
@mkl54484 жыл бұрын
You may want to check for leaks before you slide it all back in. I understand he's a gas line wizard, but even the best, get a leak here and there. Word up.
@toptencontent5552 жыл бұрын
How much would something like this cost? I just got a new stove and I’m running into the same problem.
@toptencontent555 Жыл бұрын
@@kimbuck-2 yes
@MrJaminx2 Жыл бұрын
@@toptencontent555how much?
@malekrhaddad4 жыл бұрын
What, No Pipe Dope at 5:44 ? Oh, compression fittings don’t need it....or do they? 😉
@anthonyevans71293 жыл бұрын
Always dope up the flex connections and also this is an ideal situation bc most of the piping isn't accessible that easy from the basement up and also no one held back from the bottom.. you have to do the work from the basement and have one person watch up stairs to make sure the valve is straight.. not to mention to change the old valve and the flex hose behind the stove
@jeremymedlock96265 жыл бұрын
I hate natural gas with a passion. Carbon Monoxide Poisoning makes me paranoid. I prefer all electric, but you save money since you don't have a gas bill.
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
It's imperative to have carbon monoxide detectors regardless.
@cristianmunoz24803 жыл бұрын
Went that far so why not change the valve? Also a ball valve is better than that old one because it requires no tools to shut on and off.
@michael1l13 жыл бұрын
I like to see a shutoff for each branch but there isn't one and I"m only into this job a 6" nipple so what the hell.
@rocketrider14055 жыл бұрын
At 4:21 even though you said "... lefty loosey..." while you're at it you might as well say the left rotation is from the point of view of the opposite end of the pipe, in that from your point of view you're turning the wrench clockwise aka 'righty' ... and when turning off the gas, looking squarely at whatever arrangement you see it's 'clockwise to close' ... seconds might matter someday
@user-wl4im6nc8y5 жыл бұрын
I guess we don't soap the quick connect on the stove and tssa bugs us lol
@Arteolike3 жыл бұрын
Why not just thread on an elbow?
@MoparDan3 жыл бұрын
"The shorter pipe comes precut." They call them nipples. Oh I'm so embarrassed!
@thomascdurham91305 жыл бұрын
If you are removing the 12" pipe, why not put a valve and a short nipple in the basement., plus one valve behind the stove. And if you were going to work of the meter valve like you did, all you would had to do was removed the old valver and replace it with a street elbow and tread a new valve on the street elbow. Connect the flex line to the new valve and call it a day. It would take the same time as I'm taking to type this comment. LOL! :)
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
An extra valve under the floor is not necessary
@tj_gsomething_5 жыл бұрын
Use a match or bic lighter to check for leaks after installation.
@shindanu5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@cup_and_cone5 жыл бұрын
Great tip
@lucianonarno14085 жыл бұрын
That’s the PRO way. That’s called trusting your work with your life.
@andrewdarbyshire91085 жыл бұрын
Luciano Narno it won’t blow up. If you have a leak a nice blue flame will appear, then tighten till the flame goes out. Don’t do this to find a propane leak that been leaking for awhile.
@lucianonarno14085 жыл бұрын
Andrew Darbyshire I’m also guessing it wouldn’t blow up as it would be like a cigarette lighter, but you won’t catch me doing it lol. I was just joking
@JW-so4fc4 жыл бұрын
No pressure test?
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
At least he should have used the bubble solution on all of the fittings behind the stove before sliding back into place. Discrepancies are common in his episodes.
@theamericanhiker96554 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe he didn’t replace that shut off valve
@jeffreyjohn20374 жыл бұрын
He's a clown
@_1ben4 жыл бұрын
Why can't you believe it? No reason to replace it, he could have used a ball valve, he could have removed the core from the stopcock (shut off) for clearance from the drywall, he could have removed the valve and installed a street valve, and I could think of 5 more , my point is what he did was acceptable
@justinballard72423 жыл бұрын
3:11 that's what she said
@jonathanmcdougal8252 Жыл бұрын
Home owners should not mess with gas !
@jpl572103 жыл бұрын
2 pipe wrenches on the $2k countertop.
@davidparker96764 ай бұрын
I don't know why he didn't just install a 90 or a street 90 and a new shutoff valve and flex. So many issues in these TOH episodes, they shouldn't be showing how to do it wrong and against national codes.
@MrsAnaelimont Жыл бұрын
The owner looks scared lol
@Jeph6293 ай бұрын
Complains about no shutoff valve then doesn't install one at a good time to do just that. Not even a mention of a sediment trap or drip line. THIS is This-Old-House?????? (1:45 "licensed professional")
@KE5ZZO5 жыл бұрын
4 mistakes by a “pro” a diy would have: 1-add a 90 degree elbow below the shutoff valve. instead of replacing the 12 inch pipe 2- use a crescent wrench to disconnect the hose. the “pro” pipe wrench tore up the fitting 3-add another shut off valve on that gas branch so if valve behind stove messed up there is a way to shut off the gas branch instead of going back to meter to shut off gas to stove 4-let the excess gas out of the line after the gas was turned off at the meter. just turn on the cooktop to get rid of excess gas i bet if tv was not there mr “pro” would have left the gas on and just used his finger to plug the pipe for the minute he had it unscrewed...
@MsUltrafox5 жыл бұрын
And if he closed the other lines he didn't have to "bleed" them.
@mrchevyman14035 жыл бұрын
guess they tried to do it fastest way for tv time
@DXSUCKIT19905 жыл бұрын
What a dumbass lol. They cut out all of that.
@salvatoresaccoccio23795 жыл бұрын
David Hold society doesn’t know any better and the tv shows suck. If someone that wasn’t a pro did the work and something happened their insurance wouldn’t cover them, plain and simple.
@pizzaivlife5 жыл бұрын
@@salvatoresaccoccio2379 he said at the beginning this has to be done by a pro. every episode involving gas lines he mentions that but shows us how it is done for educational purposes
@sourfeet46765 жыл бұрын
More appliance videos
@waverly96484 жыл бұрын
great vid.
@randymathews33485 жыл бұрын
Who put the pipe dope on the flared fitting 🤦🏽
@jason-ge5nr5 жыл бұрын
you saw that too?
@randymathews33485 жыл бұрын
@@jason-ge5nr first thing I saw
@randymathews33485 жыл бұрын
@@jason-ge5nr seen it a million times w the big box installers/subs smh
@plutoniusis5 жыл бұрын
Well nothing wrong to apply little bit if dope outside the conic part of flair male fitting , than tightened fittings together , second reason , dope helps to prevent metal to metal , brass to brass , brass to iron not to stick and reduce corrosion , yes that debate is for long around , many Gas fitters are following procedures not applying dope on flair fittings , but again I don't see the problem . it makes connection safer against leak .
@Guillotines_For_Globalists5 жыл бұрын
Plenty of pro plumbers put pipe dope on compression fittings for water and gas alike.
@TammieFulmer5 жыл бұрын
Safety first !!!
@hushg20003 жыл бұрын
“We got up to 6 inches to play with”😭 ... that’s what my last treesome girls said 😧