What a time to be alive. I just gained what once could take weeks, knowledge not necessarily easy to access in a matter of minutes and at the touch of a finger. Brilliant +1

The 172 I fly has the "Avoid Slips..." placard. The Super Decathlon I fly has no flaps, so we often use slips as part of our energy management on the approach :)

In russian terminology it is called aerodynamic shadow, and there is famous tupolev 154, which suffers from elevator shadow in landing configuration by design (t-shaped stabilizers). And this is very important to know about this effects. Thank u for great lessons!

3 for 3! I've never heard the explanation for avoiding slips with flaps, thank you for sharing and providing an easy-to-understand visualization!

3 for 3: Excellent explanation of the aerodynamics at play in a slip. I learned something new today. That's why I love MzeroA... My Cherokee 6-260 does not have that placard. I am going to check the POH to see if it's supposed to.

I call that move to specifically loose altitude a “forward slip”. We practice these and side slips in flight training and they are listed as required in FAR 61.87(d)(14). In my Light Sport they are quite useful. Love your channel!

Good lesson , I’ve never really considered that side of the horizontal stabilizer being denied relative wind during a slip with flaps

Side slipping is especially useful for grass strips and older aircraft where an engine out may cause excessive drag. the slip allows us to come in higher but drop down when needed, that being said it is far too easy to slip down too low to the ground, or to become too slow due to false ASI readouts.

Never really thought about using slips to reduce airspeed but it makes sense. I've always used them for a height control mechanism particularly on practice force landings when you're a bit high. That and I tend to use a "double base" technique, making figure 8 turning always towards the airfield in a base position above your paddock/field until you are at a height you want to proceed.

1:54 you shouldn't be changing slip from left to right. If you are drifting away from the runway use your ailerons to compensate.

I unfortunately don't have the resources to get my PPL and fly light aircraft IRL but I'm an avid flight simmer and I'm trying to follow your 31DSPC in FS2020 and having lots of fun with it, thank you for the great videos!

That’s interesting 🧐 I’ve almost always performed slips with flaps and i teach it that way because in the situation you actually need to slip you would have full flaps extended and you still need to lose that altitude to get yourself on the runway therefore I’ve always been taught flaps is necessary. However i see your reasoning behind your explanation and I’ve never seen a placard regarding slips with flaps. 3/3 we learn something new everyday!

I only use slips in a 172 when I’m too high on final or there’s a crosswind of some sort. I do have my flaps in but I always maintain at the least 65 knots with the nose pointed down. I’ve never had issue and it’s good to practice I think

3/3. Great production Jason. Thank you so much.

I soloed the worlds best flapless stick & rudder plane, the aeronca 7ac, at age 16 when I paid $18/hr for plane,fuel and instructor. Slips were taught early on and it was always reiterated to use full control deflection and control the pitch. Miss those days.

I loved your visual explaining part. Very helpful. Thank you!

1962 210B - slips with flaps extended not recommended. Late to the January Safer Pilot Challenge, came across it yesterday, 3/31 and determined 31/31 before the clock strikes midnight! Keep the content coming, thanks for what you do M0A Team!

3 for 3...My instructor was BIG fan of slips and constantly made me practice and perform them, even though they sometimes made me uncomfortable. I just realized I have gotten away from using them. Thank you!

Not a pilot yet as many of your messages show (in ground school); looking forward to learning much more! The fun has just begun! Alreay 3 of 3!

3 for 3. Slips to landing are standard operating procedure in flying gliders. The fellow who lived across the hall from me, lo these many years ago, was a CFI so we got to hanging around together and swapping lies, etc. I had just gotten my Private in gliders and was thinking about adding an airplane rating. He had never flown in a glider so I invited him for a ride. We strapped ourselves into the 2-33 and off we went. After about an hour of thermalling around we headed back to the airport. I came in nice and high on final, deployed the spoilers, and kicked it into an aggressive slip. I heard an "Eep!" from the back seat and realized I probably should have briefed him on that. On the other hand, I did remember to brief him to expect a loud BANG! when I released the tow rope.

I actually tow pilot a microlight with a 60 meters cable behind and I need to approach the airfield fence at above 200 meters QFE. I always have one notch of flap, and always gently slip. I found myself tending to nose down as a safety measure while slipping which is counter productive for rollout length, but very informative video, thank a lot again for your great, well and energy presented videos and advices!

3 4 3! Best explanation I’ve seen for the issue of slipping with flaps. I have a 172M and the POH says, “ Steep slips should be avoided with flap settings greater than 20 degrees due to a slight tendency for the elevator to oscillate under certain combinations of airspeed, sideslip angle, and center of gravity loadings”. Not a prohibition or even a placard, just a note in the first paragraph under landings in the POH!

3/3 I’ve been flying so many approaches lately that I haven’t practiced this simple maneuver. This reminds me that I need to go practice so I’m prepared in case I need it.

3 for 3! I find your videos very informative and helpful. Great job as always!

One of my CFI's showed me slips for the first time this week. Great timing!

Another great one! Three for three. Thank you Jason!

Awesome instruction! I will forever remember this lesson. 3 for 3.

3 for 3. 3 month delay in my training and starting back up this Friday. Thanks for another great video.

Jason, I'm 3 for 3. Great videos. Keep them coming please.

3/3 for Jason! Been loving this series already!!

This is a great series! I stopped flying due to medical issues but am itching to get back up in the air. I am enjoying the series a lot! 🙂

3 for 3 Jason. Slips feel super awkward when you first do them, but they are super fun. Keep em coming Jason!!!!

Excellent Tutorial Video Jason! Thank You!

The Tony Robbins of aviation! Great teacher and motivator!😎

Dude you have the best videos! Thank you!!!!

Great and simple explanation of the aerodynamic in slipping! I'm the type of learner that I need to understand and explain things myself in order to burn it in my brain... If not I keep forgetting parts ;P So I'll remember!! :D PS- Next flight slipping is part of exercices we will do, so great timing!! :D Oh and 3/3!

Thanks Jason. Great video.

Jason thanks for explaining the slips! I am 3 for 3!

3/3, I'm exited that you're doing the Safer Pilot Challenge again!

Fantastic video Jason! Learning something new everyday. 3/3 as well :)

I'm three for three. Great info. Keep up the good work.

Great explanation, ‘47 champ, no placard because no flaps! I need to slip or come in with power on each landing so I do a lot of slips. Super vids. I’m 100 %, 3/3 headed to 31 for 31. Stay trained and be safe!

Well done to a high standard! Are these maneuvers part of the aviation mastery book? Thank you for sharing and caring

I do these some times on the 737 and it works as advertised!

Three for three - very helpful lesson as always.

I am 3 for 3!!! Great job Jason.

You Know I'm subscribed !!! Always. Good stuff. Flying tomorrow - KTTD. Troutdale Oregon. Chris Duvall. Type 1 diabetic Pilot

343 hello Jason, I have not seen any placards on the trainer that I began with which was a 172 R model. I am presently flying a 65 piper Cherokee 180C and have not come across any information for the cause and effect of flaps deployed while slipping. I certainly appreciate your explanation on slipping for altitude and or (speed )which was a revelation to me…… when I perform slips with the Cherokee on final approach is where I am low and slow I generally like to carry a little extra speed as the speed indicatorI not true to form because of the angle of the relative wind ; it’s great to know but I can also pick up the nose while in a slip to deal with the little bit of extra speed near to the transition . You can say I’ve just learned something more, thank you again for the great videos and sharing your knowledge so that we can be safe for pilots

Today we were a little high for a landing, but airspeed was 65 KIAS. So we did forward slip. Pitch down and Ailerons left and hard R rudder. We did not loose airspeed and dropped for two white and two red papi. First time to apply forward slip, :)

3/3, loving the videos, thanks!

3 for 3 No placard, but the POH of my 172K says to avoid slips with flaps > 30. Some later 172s don't have flaps that extend to 40, so they may not be impacted by this. Check your POH :) When practicing engine out landings, my CFI encourages me to slip with flaps 40 to have it in my tool belt in case I overshoot, and there is an obstacle.

Interesting. Makes sense. I have forward slipped several times in my piper Cherokee. My Cfi hasn’t said anything against it. Thanks for sharing!

3/3 Jason. Keep em coming.

I learned slips early as a student pilot, and practiced them on a couple of solos. Our 172S's don't have the placards, and never noticed any oscillations, even with full flaps on a slip.

3 for 3….Jason, you do a great job explaining. Thanks

3/3. Great content, as always!

Haven’t been able to fly yet in the New Year, but I’m going to be talking to my CFI about working through as many of these as I can.

3 for 3. Looking forward to the rest of the series.

3/3 ...Great video series!

as a glider pilot i love side slipping an do it all the time is fun

Not only 3 for 3, but have done a few slips already at only 25 hours. And have even done one within the week during a simulated engine-out scenario.

Great video. My Piper Dakota POH recommendation to lose altitude seems to suggest that slipping with flaps is OK. See below except from section 3-11: "Excess altitude may be lost by widening the pattern, extending flaps, slipping, or a combination of these methods." Let me know if I misunderstood. Thanks again for the video.

Thanks for this series! 3 for 3.

In the Cessna 170B the placard exists.when you do a slip with full flaps there is an inherent tendency for the nose to pitch down significantly. In the approach, statistics have been collected on loss of life. Good awareness topic.

learning every day!!!

Another amazing video , i have never thought about this and its strange as you will most likely have flaps down when your landing and trying to lose altitude. I'm guessing it will be a bit different in my PA28 due to low wings and I'm going to check the manual to see what it says about slipping ! Thanks Jason !!! Great tip 👍

Air Canada Captain Pearson did this with a Boeing 777 passenger Jet, no fuel to land on a race track 🙌🏽

Amazing videos!

3 for 3 💪🏼 Thank you MzeroA

3 for 3 ! Love these videos!

Love your videos. Like to see something for preparation or demonstration of an ICP..

I’m curious, does the “avoid slips…” apply to low wing planes as well such as a SR22?

That landing was crispy

3 for 3, love these. I've always thought a slip should be performed into the crosswind only. However, if I understand your explanation, a slip away from the crosswind losses altitude and a slip into the crosswind losses speed. Is that correct?

2/3 so far!!! Missed the first one!

The 1965 172F I fly has the "Avoid slips with flaps extended" in the POH

3 and gonna try all !

3 for 3!! this is great!

3 for 3. Thanks again!

I have flown many types of aircraft and I'm not just saying that. I have slipped all of them flaps up and flaps down partial. In a 1962 Cessns 150 Commuter with mechanical flaps Yeah I decided to find out why they say avoid slips with full flaps extended. I took it up several times and the aircraft did exactly what you talked about. Full elevator stall and abrupt pitch down. Close to the ground we know what would happen.. Fortunately whenever I am testing something like that I take it to altitude. On a different note the 2 best side slipping aircraft I have ever done it in believe it or not is a Piper Tri Pacer which comes down like a rock anyway and also my Tailwind W10. Both handle extremely well in full deflection side slips and the forward speed and rate of descent are very easy to control in those airplanes. Others are good for sure but those stand out to me.

You might find the restrictions listed in the TCDS if that is how it was certified.

Hi Jason, I have just. a simple question. What about slips with low-wing aircrafts like a Piper pa-28 for. example

Bom dia. Muito interessante seus comentários a respeito dos flaps. Tank you.

The 1973 172M I fly has a placard that reads "Avoid Slips With Flaps Down", just as you said.

Check the poh, if the placard is missing the poh will have it in the placard section or a waring in the page that has the maneuvers that you and can’t do. Is aircraft specific.

3 for 3 Jason. Great videos, thanks. DD

I learned to slip in an Aeronca Champ. When I was learning to fly.

There is no placard for this in my Cessna 175, I'll check the POH next time I'm at the hangar. I'll slip up to 30 degrees, never 40 for this reason. I can't even remember the last time I used 40. When I'm on floats it will really drop in a forward slip, thanks to the extra drag from the floats. Thanks for the video, this is great information.

3 for 3. My instructor always had me do slips without flaps in my 1969 182M.

Hi I’m new to aviation, love your channel. I have a question, I read online and many KZfaq videos that a spin can happen when there’s stall and cross control? So by doing this, can you help me differentiate the difference 😅. Thank you! 😊

My Musketeer has no limitations on slips and flaps, just a limitation (30 seconds) on duration. I've flown several 172Ps and they all say "Avoid slips with flaps extended". No flaps in a Citabria so no placard. Just lots of fun. I practice slips at altitude but it's important to practice them on final too. Deliberately high 😎, traffic, terrain, whatever. The sight picture is different, the ground is coming up awfully fast. But that's the point.

Thank you for the explanation and lesson for slip to land. There is something I don't understand. Why are you first putting right pedal (nose in the wind at 1:48) before doing the opposite maneuver for slip demonstration (i.e. left pedal + right aileron) before landing?

Excelent videos !!!!!!!!!

3 for 3 awesome 😎 thanks.

3 for 3, great video

Jason this I gene from over at Inverness FL, can you explain the slip for airspeed in more detail I'm always to fast on final and I'm still floating or bouncing after 1000 feet this new airplane I have is a 2001 archer iii she's heavy and just a little hard to slow down to get a perfect landing. . Realy enjoy your videos I always watch thanks for your educational videos

3 for 3 and thank you again

Hey Jason, I am 3 for 3! 😊

So, if you are high on final on an aircraft that should not slip with flaps extended, what do you recommend: slip with no flaps, or full flaps and nose down, keeping the speed on the upper limit of the white arc until you recapture the glideslope?

3 for 3 outstanding explanation