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How To Smooth 3D Printed Polypropylene!

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The nice people at ‪@DyeMansion‬ showed us how they can now smooth Polypropylene parts when we visited their booth at ‪@Formnext‬! It's crazy to think, since Polypropylene is so resistant to chemicals. This was a treat to see in person, and it's always great to chat with Pia!
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@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your visit! As always, it was a great pleasure to have you at our booth. We are already looking forward to next year! 🤩
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
I always look forward to Joel's visits with you guys. NOBODY ever wants to talk about the elephant in the room with 3D printing, post processing sucks. You guys don't just talk about it, wrangling that beast is your business & you guys never cease to amaze us with what you have to share each year.
@ThomasS17
@ThomasS17 Жыл бұрын
Wow, those are some pretty practical Powerfuse post-processed Polypropylene printed parts!
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
that's 10 Ps in one sentence - not bad!
@alicec2033
@alicec2033 Жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@The_Privateer
@The_Privateer Жыл бұрын
Your PP... it's so smooth! 🤣
@polycrystallinecandy
@polycrystallinecandy Жыл бұрын
This seems really cool, wish they gave some more information about how it all works. Are you just chemically altering, or adding/removing material? Will it affect tolerances?
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
Our VaporFuse Surfacing process produces an even more uniform surface by rearranging the surface topology without adding or removing material. As a result, the part feels even smoother after the VFS process and has a glossy and sealed surface, even for TPU parts - or as in this case: PP.
@ProtonOne11
@ProtonOne11 Жыл бұрын
Probably pretty proprietary chemicals and physics they use in the powerfuse post-processing for printed polypropylene parts. Either thats a well guarded trade secret, or you can go find out quite a lot more details in the public patent applications if they actually patented the process.
@bacon.cheesecake
@bacon.cheesecake Жыл бұрын
I keep hearing that polypropylene is hard to print with, but I found it even easier than PLA, used PLA settings, cold bed, slightly hotter nozzle, slapped some packing tape on the bed for adhesion, and it printed beautifully.
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
In industrial 3D printing (powder bed fusion), PP printing is picking up speed. The hurdles you mentioned have already been overcome in this area.
@hazonku
@hazonku Жыл бұрын
The PP whisperer
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat Жыл бұрын
What a lovely lady, and some truly interesting tech. I assume it's not consumer level stuff.
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliments, we will pass them on to Pia & also our product development and R&D team! The applications that are made possible by this are definitely also consumer goods. However, the system itself is probably more relevant for 3D printing service providers or OEMs - except you have enough space at home ;)
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat Жыл бұрын
@@DyeMansion Space is one thing I have little of sadly.
@ethansdad3d
@ethansdad3d Жыл бұрын
Very neat. Would have liked to have seen the process.
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd Жыл бұрын
We will be working with them on this! Perhaps a visit to a facility next year :)
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
Visit our channel to learn more! ;) you'll find a lot of information on the process behind VaporFuse Surfacing!
@DEtchells
@DEtchells Жыл бұрын
I second this, I kept waiting for something about what the process is. Another video will be great, but I wish there had been at least a *little* more info here :-/ (But great info all the same, I’m enjoying all the material you’ve been bringing from FormNext :-)
@HoRNET_FPV
@HoRNET_FPV Жыл бұрын
Smooth PP 🤣🤣🤣
@skyrider4789
@skyrider4789 Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff. Well done; both were fun and pleasant. 🙂👍
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@smittysbuilds
@smittysbuilds Жыл бұрын
as joel sanitizes his hand and face, "nothing in the Vase, just some PP"
@Linuxdirk
@Linuxdirk Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, but it’s smooth PP!
@Jessterrr
@Jessterrr Жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a little more about how the process worked, even if it used chemicals unavailable to consumers. So, after a bit of digging I found that AMT Technologies has a patent pending process for smoothing Ricoh branded polypropylene that they use in a sintering printer, not FDM. The white paper had nothing about the process, other than it is vapor chemical smoothing but they did have test results. In other words, nobody is talking until the patent gets approved.
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd Жыл бұрын
We didn't get to see the process at the show - but are working on visiting one of their locations to see it. Hopefully next year!
@Jessterrr
@Jessterrr Жыл бұрын
That's unfortunate. It sounds exciting to be able to smooth PP. Even so, thanks for sharing what you could with us. This is definitely something to keep an eye on.
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
We have our own patents for our processes & our technology that have nothing to do with the above. For more details about our process, feel free to visit our channel! In addition it's to say that we don´t use any harmful hydrocarbons or halogenated substances (like xylene) in our processes due to their hazardous properties! Instead, we use a green solution, which is biobased and biodegradable. Our sustainable VaporFuse VF44 EcoFluid PP is 100% bio-based and readily biodegradable as well as non-toxic: no PFAS, non-CMR, non-vPvM/PMT.
@Jessterrr
@Jessterrr Жыл бұрын
@@DyeMansion Thank you for the additional info. The brochure about your smoothing technology describes impressive technology. The smoothing of PP while being bio-friendly is impressive and the color tech described is even more impressive. I really hope that there's potential for the smoothing process to reach the hobbyist market. It would be a great opportunity to be able to have a cottage industry develop from it that could provide food safe PP containers.
@russnbish
@russnbish Жыл бұрын
SMOOTH PP. lol. I'm such a child.
@crazybeaver5789
@crazybeaver5789 Жыл бұрын
Smooth AF lol
@madgurkha3687
@madgurkha3687 Жыл бұрын
Missed title opportunity "how to smooth your pp"
@VisionMiner
@VisionMiner Жыл бұрын
Great team over at @DyeMansion !
@marcus_w0
@marcus_w0 Жыл бұрын
She's a killa. I really llike to know more about the smooothing process, but I also just want to look at her for a couple more hours. I guess I have to get a chair and a ticket to the next Formnext.
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd Жыл бұрын
I can tell you we are looking to travel to a DyeMansion site and learn more about the process itself!
@tpp95
@tpp95 Жыл бұрын
Smooth pp 😂
@Roskellan
@Roskellan Жыл бұрын
How to - TCB " 1,2,4-trichlorobenzene" apparently, but no idea where you would buy it and how difficult it would be to use - I think high temperatures are also required.
@SplitPhotography
@SplitPhotography Жыл бұрын
Man, how cute wasn't she 😍😂
@heavyweather
@heavyweather 9 ай бұрын
Probably married to the CTO by now 😂
@CarterSchonwald
@CarterSchonwald Жыл бұрын
Super cool, but what is the chemistry of the smoothing process ?
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
To learn more about the VaporFuse Surfacing process, please visit our channel or our website. There you'll find a lot of informations on the process.
@baaler3953
@baaler3953 Жыл бұрын
Big PP? Smol PP? At Powerfuse we treat your PP right.
@simmyabis7330
@simmyabis7330 Жыл бұрын
Ahaha smooth pp
@hughessay1372
@hughessay1372 Жыл бұрын
A simple web search show that xylene (among a few other solvents) will dissolve polypropylene. So it may be a vapor-smoothing process using xylene.
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
We don´t use any harmful hydrocarbons or halogenated substances (like xylene) in our processes due to their hazardous properties! Instead, we use a green solution, which is biobased and biodegradable. Our sustainable VaporFuse VF44 EcoFluid PP is 100% bio-based and readily biodegradable as well as non-toxic: no PFAS, non-CMR, non-vPvM/PMT.
@soundspark
@soundspark Ай бұрын
Xylene is not halogenated.
@MrNathanstenzel
@MrNathanstenzel Жыл бұрын
Joel, please fix your title. This did not show how to smooth it. It showed the results of smoothing. Saying to take it to a specific company does not count.
@pewdipie5963
@pewdipie5963 Жыл бұрын
“Smooth pp”…. 😅
@Rapidlaser
@Rapidlaser Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to know what print technology is printing these parts.
@heavyweather
@heavyweather 9 ай бұрын
PowderBedFusion 😊
@genma09
@genma09 Жыл бұрын
I thought this video could show me how to smooth Polypropylene plastic but it just a demonstration of a product, title should be changed, although it is kind of interesting to know what solvents they use to smooth that particular material. Can't be Xylene because its too hazardous, might be Tetralin or Decalin?
@winstonsmith478
@winstonsmith478 Жыл бұрын
So, what exactly is the process?
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
To learn more about the VaporFuse Surfacing process, please visit our channel or our website. There you'll find a lot of informations on the process.
@MarkMichalowski
@MarkMichalowski Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff - although I'm not sure a Voronoi-style hand-sanitiser bottle is really understanding how germs work on, erm, complex surfaces... LOL
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
We chose this sample part to show that we can smooth even complex structures. But the best part is that the sealed surface minimizes bacteria growth - since bacteria grow and persist better on raw, untreated surfaces. Also the inside of this liquid container is completely sealed. Another benefit: the sealed surface adds a highly increased liquid repellency for fluid transporting applications!
@MarkMichalowski
@MarkMichalowski Жыл бұрын
@@DyeMansion Thanks for replying - that's cool to know :)
@meshkatsaiam
@meshkatsaiam Жыл бұрын
First comment. ❤️. I also have a 3d printing firm here in Bangladesh. Your videos really help to build my knowledge.
@rachinc
@rachinc 8 ай бұрын
The title of this video is misleading because nowhere in this video does it tell me how to smooth poly prop
@BrazenRain
@BrazenRain Жыл бұрын
You didn't tell us how the process works ... not that we had a chance of replicating it
@3DPrintingNerd
@3DPrintingNerd Жыл бұрын
We will be doing a deeper dive into the tech in the near future :)
@BrazenRain
@BrazenRain Жыл бұрын
@@3DPrintingNerd Huzzah!
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
In addition, to learn more about the VaporFuse Surfacing process, please visit our channel or our website. There you'll find a lot of informations on the process.
@erics2804
@erics2804 Жыл бұрын
3d printing nerd is no nerd…he’s cool!
@TheLastIshbalan
@TheLastIshbalan Жыл бұрын
You should never put hand sanitizer on your face. The skin will be irritated and dry. Also very close to sensitive orifices.
@italogarcia1597
@italogarcia1597 Жыл бұрын
Gostei da matéria
@changwanyu4231
@changwanyu4231 Жыл бұрын
I know what you did with the thumbnail
@VincentGroenewold
@VincentGroenewold Жыл бұрын
Joel carrying this presentation like a champ. :) PS. maybe it would be nice to have the outro cut up into 2 pieces, intro at first and the nice bass as the outro...
@Anthromod
@Anthromod Жыл бұрын
I work at a company in the UK that uses the powerfuse. We haven't yet tried it with Polypropylene but interested in giving it a go. Anyone in the UK who needs this service should check out All3dlabs.
@DyeMansion
@DyeMansion Жыл бұрын
How nice that you are already working with the Powerfuse S! Our Powerfuse S PP is a new system with specially developed processes for polypropylene. Feel free to contact us for a free benchmark!
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