How to spot fake silver jewellery with eBay tips and tricks.

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8 жыл бұрын

Jeweller Dave Wilson of www.celticdreams.co.uk/ shows us a little trick to find out where a seller has purchased an item from. He also shares a few things to look our for when buying silver items on eBay.
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@PeterDavid7KQ201 7 жыл бұрын

Great video Dave. I used to work in the microchip wholesale market about 6 years ago. Chinese counterfeits and counterfeiters were (and are) rampant and insidious. To make matters worse, people would get burned by buying from vendors, thinking that because they weren't in China, they were safe. As you pointed out in your video, counterfeits spread like a cancer and a cursory look at a vendor is almost guaranteed money lost. Your vid brought all my detective skill memories flooding back. Great job, looking forward to more vids!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Indeed its not the Chinese wholesalers that are the entire problem, its the UK vendors who resell them as genuine. Thanks for commenting. Dave.

@darksunabove8595 6 жыл бұрын

Happened to me this week I reported the seller after receiving the fake item, I knew right away it was fake because it was too light to be silver and the seller refunded probably within the 5 minutes of me reporting him. Goes to show the type of person you dealing with they're scared of others finding out what they're doing knowingly.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Thankfully you got your money back. Dave

@truthbetold4350 6 жыл бұрын

Darksun Above I sell real sterling silver on eBay, and I couldn't imagine lying about an item because I would get terrible reviews. I wonder how people can get away with doing this... Why doesn't eBay just shut them down?

@penelopehughes-jones5265 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, thanks for this. I'm a jewellery maker and I also sell genuine vintage silver on eBay and Etsy. The blue box trick extends to QVC items (I am a collector of and sell a lot of Diamonique) as well as vendors describing cheap cubic zirconia as Diamonique, much like describing a vacuum cleaner as a hoover but if it's not stamped DQCZ it's not from QVC. A lot of sellers buy cheap QVC copies also from China and sell them as Diamonique but QVC only sell precious metal and like you say about the Tiffany designs, there are far more for sale (and nowhere near as lovely) than QVC ever made!As you probably know Links of London is one of the most copied brands on eBay. To share with your subscribers my advice is watch out for the boxes, the originals don't have the link logo on the top; also make sure the vendor displays the hallmarks which even the tiny charms have and as you say if it's too cheap it's most likely fake!Its not all bad news, though! I buy a lot of supplies, mainly beads and findings, from China and have always had excellent quality and service so there are wonderful vendors in China and other parts of the world as there are in the U.K. and when I find them I always give A* feedback and repeat custom as it must be hard to compete when even your government encourages your competitors to rip people off. To be honest, imho it's one thing making a cheap 99p bracelet and selling it for 99p but to import a load of them and rip others off deliberately, charging ten times the price is just wicked.A huge thank you for helping us all and also for valiantly reporting to eBay, like you say, they don't listen but a least you do it and don't give up. By making these videos you are educating hopefully many of us who can vote with our feet (and not buy which eBay will notice!) and avoid getting ripped off. You're a star.😊

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. It's a tricky market and pays to be a savvy shopper. Dave.

@wonbadood8243 5 жыл бұрын

I stupidly bought 925 leverback earring findings recently from 3 different sellers on Ali Express. The weight of the finished 925 earrings was a fraction of the scrap value of sterling silver.They were solid brass plated in silver (maybe). As the guy says, it the secondary sellers are the problem. I notified one Etsy reseller about this problem as she was obviously reselling one of these products and got the answer Thanks.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experiences. hence the importance of informing people. Thanks. Dave

@pinkvelvetkitty 8 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Thank you for posting this. Great idea to look at Sellers buying info!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That's the big tip really 9/10 I'm usually right.

@beadsandbobs 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the very helpful video Dave!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Dave

@timenixe 3 жыл бұрын

Just realised a 'reputable' store I worked for must have had these fakes mixed in with real silver items. I always wondered why some cheaper bracelets were so light. Shocking!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 3 жыл бұрын

Most "branded" jewellery is copied and faked, so it pays to be cautious. Dave

@22evilone 6 жыл бұрын

Your awesome information Dave. I’ve liked your video, subscribed and shared. I believe knowledge is power and this is very powerful thank you.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Well put. knowledge is power. Thanks for watching. Dave

@bnesscness5991 5 жыл бұрын

the world we live in..........thank you very much for spreading your informative vids brother.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 5 жыл бұрын

Lovely comment. It's appreciated. Thanks for watching. Dave

@Dharlanna 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave, this was really informative! :)

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I wasn't sure about this video, but felt it was important to warn people. Dave.

@henmauong8250 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Love how you explain it.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Dave

@TheManWithTheHat 3 жыл бұрын

Wow great info mate. I’ve been a sub for a while but this is my first comment.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting. And thanks for watching. Dave

@catherinemurphy5075 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. Great help and good wishes to you. Always liked your honest looking face.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

well thank you so much for saying that. ; ) Dave.

@gvantsigva456 7 жыл бұрын

Thx for video it's really help people👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Dave.

@vallove4life 6 жыл бұрын

So very interesting! Thank you so much for this. 😘

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Dave

@manicheanwarrior8589 8 жыл бұрын

Wow. That we a great video. Super info. Thanks.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Hope you got something from it. Dave.

@jesusharos 4 жыл бұрын

That's crazy where they can stamp this on that and means nothing so sad

@CelticDreamsCoUk 4 жыл бұрын

Sad indeed. eBay need to be a lot stricker, but they are making money from the sales so they don't care. Thanks for commenting. Dave

@ravenoakfarm 6 жыл бұрын

Good morning, I didn't buy anything like Tiffany but thought the cheaper stuff would be acceptable even if not completely silver. Boy was I wrong. The fake is so shiny that I would be embarrassed to wear it. Hoping I get my money back. Thank you for sharing your tips. Peace. Debbie

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Good luck. If you bought it through eBay, return it as Item not as described and the seller is responsible for return postage. Dave

@mariankitagawa7525 6 жыл бұрын

That’s why I quit Ebay

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people have. Thanks for watching. Dave

@offthewalla4717 8 жыл бұрын

Great information. Thank you.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Glad you got something from it. Dave.

@traceycrosss 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. I bought a Tiffany bracelet from eBay recently. The seller was a reputable jeweller and I did my research before I bought. My bracelet is authentic but the amount of fakes on eBay is disturbing. It makes me angry that eBay don’t do anything.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

indeed. I have reported many sellers. But I have never known of a listing being taken down. eBay make money regardless, so don't really care. Its a shame, but I hear people leaving eBay all the time, for this reason. Sad that its gone that way. China copy and fake everything - even copying cars ! its a vast industry. But the Chinese government deny everything. Dave

@traceycrosss 6 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with everything you say. I recently bought some fake Gucci perfume. When the postman delivered it the bottle had cracked and was leaking everywhere. I couldn’t send it back as Royal Mail rightly so wouldn’t allow a leaking bottle in with their mail. The seller was reported for selling fakes by myself and other ebayers yet is still selling fake bottle of perfume. Her feedback now in something like minus 30 percent. I never received a refund as I could return the item. I have also noticed a lot of Chinese sellers say in listing they’re based in the uk but when you look at their details they’re based in China somewhere. As you can see it makes me so angry. eBay used to be a great site to buy on. Now I’m very careful as I’ve been ripped off too many times.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Ditto ! Dave

@samlabo1688 5 жыл бұрын

If it's inexpensive If it's new if it is stamped on a tag That tag might be 925 Look at the feed back I bought a couple of fakes But mostly I get real pieces

@CelticDreamsCoUk 5 жыл бұрын

A full hallmark is the only real assurance. Thanks for watching.Dave

@rosalieportier 2 жыл бұрын

Omgosh you made me want to check all of my Tiffany I got from there…😭😭

@CelticDreamsCoUk 2 жыл бұрын

Tiffany is probably the most faked item, so do be cautious.. Dave

@markgoodger4478 8 жыл бұрын

Great video. Proves at least two old adages: caveat emptor and if it's too good to be true, it probably is.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

Well exactly. The problem is, when something is listed at a higher price people are less suspicious. There "are" bargains out there, I've had a few real nuggets over the years - But not many ! Dave.

@WOWfunnyVideos 7 жыл бұрын

Celtic Dreams : Thank you so much for making this video! However, I do have a question... could you help me identify a necklace I purchased as real or fake? I called Tiffany, and they weren't much help, and the internet hasn't helped me much either. Is there any way I can send you photos and let you look to see if it's real or fake? It's an Elsa Peretti piece. Thank you. :)

@ravenoakfarm 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Dave

@trackpackgt877 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video thank you

@CelticDreamsCoUk 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Dave

@tomusannonymous 3 жыл бұрын

Im trying to figure out if silver chains on etsy are worth buying, they're 1/2-1/3 the price of one from the local jeweller. From the uk and stamped 925 with rhodium coating but idk how else i could tell without actually buying it.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 3 жыл бұрын

Difficult, there are a lot of fakes out there. I buy chains from the largest UK wholesaler Cooksongold, in the USA you have places like Riogrande.com. Id stick to the large reputable companies. Dave

@apr194828 3 жыл бұрын

dave those chinese rings that are marked 925 ain't silver at all i had one of these rings and was gonna make one out of white gold but had to remove the crown put a torch to melt the soldier on the crown and the entire ring disintegrated a splash of soldier in the sink looks like some type of tin based soldier like from radio shack

@CelticDreamsCoUk 3 жыл бұрын

Oh dear. I guess in order to make the casting process low temperature (and cheap) they likely use tin and zinc alloys which melt at very low temperatures and hence can be cast in cheap rubber moulds, with minimal equipment and cost. I now try to avoid anything without full hallmarks. Thanks for watching, and sharing your comments. Dave

@Dan-ms4oq 7 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Be careful on eBay, but happy hunting. Dave.

@Dan-ms4oq 7 жыл бұрын

Celtic Dreams I have got moneyback returns on the crap I bought and I got to keep them. Bullion fakes are rife. It's the turquoise box that really helped too.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 7 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, watch out for those blue boxes ! Good news. Nice to see a good outcome from my video. Thanks for sharing. Dave.

@harveyduncan8096 2 жыл бұрын

I learned a lot from your video! Would you be able to locate something genuine as a comparison? That way we can see what a real item looks like.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion! If i ever get a real and fake the same, I'll do a side by side. Dave

@horseshine6137 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this post. I always thought there were rules on eBay for how an item can be described and that the item would be removed if reported as a fake etc. I also thought if something was stamped 925 that it should be genuine. Is there no regulating body for this!?! wow

@CelticDreamsCoUk 4 жыл бұрын

That's the problem many people think 925 is a hallmark. And the Chinese rely heavily on this ignorance. it isn't a guarantee. It should be, but anyone can buy a 925 stamp for a couple of pounds and stamp your cat if you wish, but that doesn't make it silver. The only real guarantee is a full hallmark, the item is sent to a government assay office and tested, it is then stamped with the metal, purity assay office stamp and a date letter etc. Most countries have some version of this system. A proper hallmark is evidence it has been officially tested. a 925 stamp means nothing. Yes ebay state that an items described as silver must be hallmarked, but they don't uphold anything. ebay are making money regardless. Dave

@SeanBrown23 6 жыл бұрын

There are some pieces that you can get for around .99¢ that are in fact real-two out of the four pieces I've purchased have been real. But, like you said, most of the cheap silver pieces you buy from eBay are fake.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

New silver (sheet & wire) is currently around £1 per g. So if you have bought a new bracelet for 99c, then if its more than 1g in weight its very unlikely to be real silver at that price. Dave

@karie9890 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave~ thanks for tips! However..... are these same tips good for wire & components and jewelry making things? Also, what about stones & gems? Any hints for those? Also, are you OK? You haven't added anything for a year....

@CelticDreamsCoUk 2 жыл бұрын

Im fine thanks, Busy with my shop. I do also make video and blogs for Pepetools, so check me out over there too. Yes these tips are general advice, but especially the bright white shiny colour, it's a dead giveaway that something is rhodium plated. Dave

@tamaraho7531 6 жыл бұрын

thanks. good sleuthing!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. hope you found it useful. Dave

@joshharvey6771 5 жыл бұрын

If it sounds to good to be true then it probably is That's my advice

@CelticDreamsCoUk 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. But there are bargains.... Dave kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pb6baNGFqJ6YloE.html

@truthbetold4350 6 жыл бұрын

How can they get away with selling fake stuff on eBay? Why doesn't eBay shut them down. If they're saying it's real silver but it's not then they are lying about the item description...

@CelticDreamsCoUk 6 жыл бұрын

Sadly eBay doesn't care, because some of these Chinese wholesalers have sales in the hundreds of thousands. So eBay are making a fortune out of listing fees and commission. I would argue a point thought that eBay are therefore profiting from illegal activity. But its a huge problem and it really needs international government level action to stop the flood of Chinese fakes. But If I can help my fellow jewellers be safe and avoid getting ripped off, then that's one small victory at least. Dave

@chriseberhardt3020 4 жыл бұрын

Great online detective work! At 6:15 minutes it shows "120 positive feedbacks within 30 days" in the upper-left corner but the right side shows the most current feedbacks as "more than a years ago" and the time period is "all" (the default setting of "all" shows the most current feedback first). How is this possible? Hopefully eBay fixed this anomaly.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 4 жыл бұрын

Well spotted. It pays to notice such things. Thanks for watching. Dave

@bosvigos9165 4 жыл бұрын

It says, click and collect from your Argos store...??

@CelticDreamsCoUk 4 жыл бұрын

When you buy items on eBay, you can chose to get the item delivered to your local argos store, for you to collect. That doesn't mean that Argos sell fake Tiffany, they are just a collection point for eBay. Dave

@fdghn4567 10 ай бұрын

I've seen these items on ebay and the price should give it away. I reported a seller for selling fake Garrett products, I also sent the listing details to Garrett themselves as they obviously take the issue much more serious than ebay, ebay don't give a crap as long as they get their bit of the sales. I now let the genuine manufacturers know when I find a fake, but shutting these sellers down is one big game of whack a mole.

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 ай бұрын

Indeed, and as you say eBay don't care. Facebook marketplace and Etsy are going the same way too. nothing but mass produces junk and fakes.

@pijnto 8 жыл бұрын

Good info unfortunately it is only going to get worse as the people who should be doing something about it don't care i.e. the respective government agencies

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

Indeed. The Chinese even rip off cars ! several car companies approached the Chinese government about Fake / replica cars. The government just said that they didn't know what they where talking about. Fakes and rip offs are a huge industry in China, So just like eBay - if is makes money - they don't care. Thanks for your comments. Dave

@EBooy-ye7tz 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the information. Most of the people have no idea what silver items may be cost. And Ebay? Zij gaan alleen voor het geld!

@CelticDreamsCoUk 8 жыл бұрын

This is the problem. Some people don't realise that silver has a fixed price around the world. The Chinese have to pay the same price as everyone else. It just is not possible for them to make "sold silver" bracelets for 99p. No one can. Thanks for watching. Dave.