How to Stabilize Wood and What is Stabilization

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5 жыл бұрын

Stabilizing wood can be a great way to use scraps that are not solid enough for general use. How to Stabilize Wood it a question that has come up a lot more recently since I made a video making a couple mallets: • Making Mallets for Tal...
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@frankmakes
@frankmakes 5 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful, of course now I have to save every last tiny scrap of wood in the shop.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. Yup got to love that pile of almost sawdust scraps for some future project!
@reforzar
@reforzar 5 жыл бұрын
frank howarth wait, you don’t do that already?
@MegaRetroRocket
@MegaRetroRocket 5 жыл бұрын
Same, I already had a problem...
@billy19461
@billy19461 4 жыл бұрын
Got a 55 gallon garbage can full.
@lukeiodice4750
@lukeiodice4750 2 жыл бұрын
Year
@dondavi5798
@dondavi5798 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful! I am fixing to start into turning and I kept running across this as a suggestion without explanation of what it is. Thank you very much for the info and demo.
@dlwright405
@dlwright405 4 жыл бұрын
Ty sir. I have started to fo some wood rings. And I have been watching people stabilize wood. But they never went onto detail. So this helped alot.
@David-fv7zg
@David-fv7zg 5 жыл бұрын
That was the simplest, most easily understood demo I have ever seen for this. Thank you for sharing this, not nearly as difficult or intimidating as I thought. Thank you!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks David. that means a lot
@corygilmore9083
@corygilmore9083 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright I was wondering can you glue this stabilised wood to untreated wood. I'm thinking of trying this for bass fretboards.. Your thoughts would be appreciated
@Freefalling127
@Freefalling127 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright is there some place where I can private message you? Or even FB. Thank you!
@scottlu480
@scottlu480 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the same thing!
@shanesims2864
@shanesims2864 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and video . 👍🏻 Very helpful and easy to understand. All the best. 🤝
@MrMakkji
@MrMakkji 5 жыл бұрын
I just now found your channel, and the info youve given me today and the quality of your videos im surprised that you dont have more subscribers, you taught me/showed me alot of good stuff today. And today was a day I wish I knew all this before hand. But such is learning curves sometimes!
@wb_finewoodworking
@wb_finewoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
James, this is the best video I’ve seen on stabilization and I’ve seen quite a few. Your explanation between Cactus Juice and epoxy was super. While I don’t have a need to stabilize anything right now I’m sure that sometime in the future I’ll want to. The information in your video will be very helpful when I do. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. That means a lot.
@s4nari
@s4nari 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the advice and product links I was looking for! Also, that clip at the end made me crack up, subbed.Well played Wright.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad I could help.
@tparker
@tparker 5 жыл бұрын
Best stabilization vid I've seen so far. Thanks for your hard work.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas! that means a lot.
@KomarProject
@KomarProject 5 жыл бұрын
James this is great info. Thanks!!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks My pleasure!
@neilsauve9847
@neilsauve9847 5 жыл бұрын
No sooner did I ask the question and you do a video on it...excellent, and informative..I had been watching the Tally Ho Restoration for a while now and all I can say is that kid is a genius...Nathaniel Bowdich would be very proud.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
LOL my pleasure. thanks Neil. I am really hoping to get out there and help him again some time.
@DavidLebo-tc9vc
@DavidLebo-tc9vc 3 жыл бұрын
I got the supplies to do this a year ago and was just intimidated by the process too much to take a day and get it figured out. This was an extremely easy to understand tutorial, and I’ll be doing this soon.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Let me know if you have any questions I'd love to help you out.
@wadegustovson5767
@wadegustovson5767 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously the best demo vid on this I’ve ever seen. Well done man. I feel confident I can do this now.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad I could help out.
@oojagapivy
@oojagapivy 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info James. I want to get into pen turning and I've been saving some nice spalted tulipwood for it. Time to get into stabilising. Damo
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet man. Don't have too much fun!
@vgskiddles3766
@vgskiddles3766 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Took the mystery out of stabilization! Thanks!!!!
@rodneylangstroth4577
@rodneylangstroth4577 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. This video answered all my questions.
@practicallyIndependent
@practicallyIndependent 5 жыл бұрын
Darn! I just burned a bunch of nice looking cherry pen blanks because of a little rot. Didnt know about this option. Thank you very much James for sharing this! I am totally going to order this stuff. Thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks man. my pleasure. it is perfect for that!
@busterwest1644
@busterwest1644 5 жыл бұрын
Stabilisation explained very well.. I have a vacuum pot so I can give it a go thank you for the video
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet! thanks!
@dancompton1300
@dancompton1300 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Very well done and clearly explained. I appreciate it!
@chuckgoughiii8215
@chuckgoughiii8215 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. It pretty much answers all my questions. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! glad I could help!
@ronmack1767
@ronmack1767 5 жыл бұрын
That was interesting James. Thank you for the tutorial on wood stabilization and the stabilization chamber. My wife hundreds of rose bushes at one time and as some died when I dug them up the roots were actually big enough to make somersmall. Most were pretty solid but some pieces would have a punky spot or two. I have saved them hoping to be able to use them One day and I believe you have given me the anwer. Thank you and God bless.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great project. Nice man!
@lueythorne344
@lueythorne344 3 жыл бұрын
200 c or 200f
@SaplingCompany
@SaplingCompany 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, clear and full explanation!! Thanks
@streametal
@streametal Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Even 4 years later it`s helping people like me
@DracoOmnia
@DracoOmnia 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly the response I wanted to my question from the other video, thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad you like it.
@SolaScriptura94
@SolaScriptura94 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this was extremely helpful and fun to watch!!! Thank you so much!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks. my pleasure
@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez 4 жыл бұрын
I like your philosophy of trying to match any old wood to a use where it will work. nice one
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Jinnuksuk
@Jinnuksuk 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to be the best wood stablization video I found so far. Explanations are great too. But I imagine that this is a bit of an overkill and completely changes the density and composition to try to use on guitar builds... I'm from a place where we have very little humidity so the indian rosewood fretboard I got started to bend almost as soon as it arrived so now I have it clamped lightly on a flat surface hoping it doesn't warp or start to crack as it dries.
@PohlBarnProductions
@PohlBarnProductions 4 жыл бұрын
That was really really worth watching. thank you for this great video.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. My pleasure.
@peterking2651
@peterking2651 4 жыл бұрын
I’m looking at making outdoor signs, this seems like a great technique for that.
@kellyvcraig
@kellyvcraig 3 жыл бұрын
You'd have to go full on imagination. For example, do to the material and zippers they use for space suits. Keeping the zippers up out of the several expensive gallons of juice. Pain, BUT, when done, you would have what you were hoping for. Meanwhile, consider doing what I did for years, and argued with the then [and now] expert in finishing about - saturating the wood with thinned poly, in stages, letting the solvent gas off. Deep penetration, in my opinion, ALWAYS trumps surface coats that require more maintenance. If you want to share ideas, do a search for ImaginationUnincorporated, which is me. Then contact me via that information.
@SeasquatchWoodshop
@SeasquatchWoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! I've been sitting on a bunch of birch burls that I've been wanting to dig into, but it's so dang spongey, it would just crumble as soon as I started working with it. Gonna try this out. Thanks, homie!
@TCTimberArt
@TCTimberArt 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, you’ve convinced my to make a vacuum chamber. Your explanation of stabilizing was great, it’s not so intimidating now.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Glad I can help.
@Nickporter17
@Nickporter17 4 жыл бұрын
Great video on the topic! Thank youuuu
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info James! 👍👊
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Fred!
@ZayKnives
@ZayKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for the info.
@travishanson166
@travishanson166 4 жыл бұрын
I just cut down a black locust that is spalted and worm/ant tracked. I was merely cutting it down to make way for 2 large mulberries to come down. I'm a little excited to see what it looks like when I get to milling it. This spring I'm moving to town, so I'd figured I would do some maintenance logging before the place is sold, so I'm quite excited to see what all I end up with slabbing elm, black and honey locust, mulberry and a few others we haven't identified yet. Originally I was just going to mill up a bunch of fence posts and call it good, but now I seem to be hooked on "gold mining" wood lol. Having different options to stabilize and add value to certain woods is nice.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun time.
@simvik4743
@simvik4743 4 жыл бұрын
Nice relaxing video full of information. Thanks! :)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Jmoe55
@Jmoe55 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, very informative!
@wlial
@wlial 5 жыл бұрын
Good tip, James!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks William
@PeroXepatonio
@PeroXepatonio 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this knowledge
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
my pleasure!
@Hobbysnedkeren
@Hobbysnedkeren 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one James. Good video as usual
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks.
@DavidsWoodturning
@DavidsWoodturning 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video well detailed. Do you leave the vacuum pump ON for the full duration when sacking all the air out of the wood? Or just like the pressure pot once it gets to the desired level switch off and leave as it is?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on how good your valves are. If I can get it down low enough and close it then I do. But most the time it takes a good 20 minutes plus to get it all the way down to a solid vacuum.
@rustopholis1667
@rustopholis1667 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info, very helpful!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks! my pleasure!
@rick91443
@rick91443 5 жыл бұрын
I find(and found this, the other day,) really interesting. Thanks James...rr
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
it is so much fun to play with!
@JosMorn1
@JosMorn1 4 ай бұрын
VERY helpful, thank you!
@reforzar
@reforzar 5 жыл бұрын
Great informative video.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian!
@fparadise1979
@fparadise1979 5 жыл бұрын
very good video, i learned a lot! thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure thanks for watching.
@TristanDare
@TristanDare 5 жыл бұрын
How long do you think the chamber will last with the resin? If you look in the description of the chamber it does say "Chambers are not compatible with stabilization resin (i.e. Cactus Juice™, Gator Venom™, Minwax™ etc.)".... I'm not sure if this actually does anything that it wouldn't otherwise do to regular stabilizing chambers that are made for it. What are your thoughts?
@zifnab6824
@zifnab6824 5 жыл бұрын
it should last forever. two parts that can fail one is if you splash epoxy/resin up into the valves. the chamber itself looks to be made of stainless steel. the other part that might have issues is the seal getting hard and not sealing because you get epoxy/resin on it. but then they sell the seals for cheap
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
They are just covering their backside. @zifnab has it on the head.
@grizzlywon
@grizzlywon 4 жыл бұрын
Make sure your chamber has a glass lid! The degassing chambers with plastic lids will fail! I know from experience.
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
As a bowyer I'd love a discussion on the changes to the mechanical properties of stabilizing wood. We have similar needs to people in the fishing rod hobby. High tensile and compression strength.
@HovingtonInstruments
@HovingtonInstruments 5 жыл бұрын
Really well explained.. I’ve always been curious about the whole process. I’ve seen different colours in the past for the juice, is it dyes or you have to get the colour you want?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
You can add a dye to it and change it to whatever color you want. The only downside to that is once you dye it it is hard to reuse it.
@franciscogallardo6083
@franciscogallardo6083 5 жыл бұрын
Very clear and ilustrative, thank you for your video. I'm trying to learn because I want to start doing some things on wood and this video clarifies a lot my doubts about stabilizing wood. Can I ask you if vacuum is also the good way for stabilize wood + coloured resin?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
thanks. sure I know several people that will add color to the resin.
@mullmiller
@mullmiller 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid man. Also vacuum chambers have no pressure. Which implies positive pressure. They have a negative pressure or “vacuum“ . And you would pump atmospheric pressure out, not in. As for the pvc its warning is against positive pressure, no negative. Also, the valve wo a line is basically an air bleed, you dont have to start the pump with it open. You can leave it closed always til ur ready to take the lid off if the chamber is under vacuum. Thanks for the vid man
@stevenleades
@stevenleades Ай бұрын
They still have pressure, the pressure is simply lower than atmospheric pressure
@mullmiller
@mullmiller Ай бұрын
@@stevenleadeswhich is called vacuum
@bradh9564
@bradh9564 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video!!
@mictaylor9531
@mictaylor9531 5 жыл бұрын
Great video 👌🏻 thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mic
@LewisFarmAndForge
@LewisFarmAndForge 5 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks I just cut up a burl I found & cant wait to make some knife handles out of it with your methods
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
sweet! sounds like fun!
@bpower6362
@bpower6362 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been thinking about getting the supplies to do this. I have a bunch of spalted stuff that is getting too punky to work with. This would work. :)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
sounds perfect!
@m.powell9676
@m.powell9676 3 жыл бұрын
Right.
@NKG416
@NKG416 5 жыл бұрын
amazing video!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been wanting to learn more about this. I saw a thread on some web site where a guy made a small set up with a gallon pickle jar and a $25 hand operated brake bleeder pump from Harbor Freight, along with various fittings and some silicone.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
ya I have seen that. the problem with the bike pump and no gauge is you 1. do not know how good the vacuum is, and 2. with a bike pump you can rarely get it halfway as far which is ok for most it just means the juice will not penetrate as far in some woods.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 5 жыл бұрын
This guy used a brake bleeder pump thar had a gauge attached.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
@@dannyhale7645 oh I miss read that sorry. I don't think I have seen that one. I will have to look for it.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 5 жыл бұрын
I found it in a Google search it was on a site called The Shave Den. I think he was making scales for a straight razor.
@woodricks7019
@woodricks7019 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I am not in the Cactus League yet as I recently started doing knife scales. I have made four knives with Ebony Macassar and have noticed some "puggyness" to the wood, especially after using and cleaning the knife for a week. Now I have two orders and think I should put the scales through the stabilizing process. Have you heard of using Winwax Wood Hardener with two parts Acetone?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like fun. yes that works like a penetrating epoxy in that it hardens the surface. it will not stabilize the wood from expansion and contraction but it will harden it down a bit into the wood.
@nathanlaw8769
@nathanlaw8769 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do the same thing with wood shavings from sanding or using a planer? Im thinking about using some of mine to make knife scales
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Sure. That sounds like a great project!
@johnobrien4014
@johnobrien4014 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Been researching this topic for a while. So the Amazon description for the Chamber your using says it is NOT compatible with cactus juice. Please explain. Thankyou
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
That is there to cover their back side. there is nothing that it can harm as long as you do not get it into the hose or pump.
@skyme01
@skyme01 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!I see that you remove the vacuum,then add the vacuum again,watching for more bubbles,cycling a couple of times..I’ve seen some people leave the vacuum on until the bubbles disappear,usually 2 or 3 hrs,then release the vacuum and let sit. Is there a difference? If so,which is better?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
I have done it both ways but I found it to work a bit better with cycling it. In the end it's just a personal preference.
@SFSoulCrooner
@SFSoulCrooner 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank u. So for stabilizing you use the vacuum, but for removing bubbles from resin you use a pressure pump.? Is that correct? Thanks again. Total Beginner in San Fran 😀
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
both methods will remove bubbles. but it is easier to hold pressure then it is to hold a vacuum. With pressure, you compress the air bubbles tell they cannot be seen. with vacuum you remove the air from the resin.
@kirkbyars243
@kirkbyars243 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Is Cactus Juice a food safe product. Can I use it to stabilize wood for spoons and such?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
it does not state that on the label but like with epoxy I consider it food safe once cured. but everyone has a different level for what they consider "food Safe"
@sebastian-ic1mz
@sebastian-ic1mz 2 ай бұрын
thank you
@donatoam
@donatoam 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! My name is Alexandre and I live in the Brazilian Amazon. Congratulations for your work! I want to ask: have you stabilized Pinus, that pallet wood? How is the result? Thank you.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can stabilize pine. it works fine!
@melvinhanson3659
@melvinhanson3659 4 жыл бұрын
Is the cactus juice a two part mixture?The stuff I’m seeing on amazon shows a small bottle that comes with the larger.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
That is the activator. You put it in as soon as you get it in the mail. They do not add it at the factory as the trucks get hot and it may cure it in route. Once you add it this will sit on the shelf for years.
@barryirby8609
@barryirby8609 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious about doing a large piece like a table top. I have done a couple of red oak ones and spent endless time filling tiny voids. What about putting the top in a polyethylene bag, pouring some epoxy and drawing a vacuum on the bag to suck the stuff into the voids? Then fill the larger voids?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
That actually works fairly well. I've done that on a few of them. You just have to make sure you set up the bag right so that the air can get out without it drawing up into the vacuum hose. You won't get quite as good of a vacuum as this but it does good enough for filling cracks and voids and bug holes.
@ninabarber8894
@ninabarber8894 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just learning about stabilization and I was curious if you still cure with cactus juice but don't have a vacuum system. I know it probably won't soak in as deep but I don't do turning but I do a lot of colored epoxy & polyurethane so I'd like to stop it soaking up so much.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
you can do some of that just soak it over night, but for that you wold get better luck with penetrating epoxy.
@gjDOnBBQ
@gjDOnBBQ 3 жыл бұрын
Can you dye the cactus juice?
@coles481
@coles481 4 жыл бұрын
Did you use the activator with the cactus juice? Great video thank you.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. they cannot ship it with the activator in the bottle. Otherwise if it gets too hot in the truck it may cure the juce. so you have to add it when you get it but even after use the activator it will not set until it has been heated. when you add the activator it can sit on the shelf for several years still as long as you don't heat it up.
@coles481
@coles481 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright oh okay thank you for the clarification.
@matthewharvey8755
@matthewharvey8755 3 жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every tip you gave that blew my mind, I would be a rich man! That pvc pipe idea is gold!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I will try to keep them comming!
@matthewharvey8755
@matthewharvey8755 3 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright I've used big pvc pipe to steam with, but never would of thought to use it as a pressure chamber.
@Karimsss25
@Karimsss25 6 ай бұрын
wow never heard of this very interesting. Does stabilizing actually eliminate wood movement. im trying to make carvings with inlays Would stabilizing help with movement ???
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 ай бұрын
Stabilization makes less wood movement. It will still expand and contract due to temperature but far far less due to humidity..
@grkuntzmd
@grkuntzmd 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Does stabilizing replace the need for a coat of polyurethane on the mallet, for example, or would you still wipe on a couple of coats?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
I would never use poly on a mallet. it is jsut going to get banged up. I just use BLO and Paste wax. but even on this I use BLO.
@sebastian-ic1mz
@sebastian-ic1mz 2 ай бұрын
interesting, before I heard about different methods, but they are so complicated
@Mad_Props
@Mad_Props 3 жыл бұрын
I have a liberty hatch cover that I found on my property, can I stabilize the wood if it’s too large to fit in a vacuum pot? And oven? I imagine the resin won’t be able to penetrate the whole piece.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Without a full vacuum you would not be able to penetrate the whole piece. However with large items like that you really don't need to penetrate the whole piece. I would personally just use a penetrating epoxy depending upon how punky the wood is it will absorb in a 1/16-in to a quarter inch. And for most uses that's all you need. If you really want to try and pull it in a little bit further you can use a vacuum packing bag but that won't help that much more.
@dickiewilson5164
@dickiewilson5164 4 ай бұрын
Can you use a pressure pot instead of a vacuum pot and achieve the same results. GREAT VIDEO!!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately no.
@jwydubak9673
@jwydubak9673 2 жыл бұрын
I am considering buying these tools myself and I can choose between a chamber with the valves on the lid or on the pot. Do you have any suggestions or comments.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
I would get the valves on the lid. You want those as high as you can get them. You don't want accidental splashing to go back up and do a line.
@EMPTYKProductions
@EMPTYKProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, I bought a few 48”x9”x1” spalted maple boards for guitar tops. They’re pretty rough sawn wood so seem pretty porous but the splaying seems stable. Should I use the cactus juice to stabilize them more before using or is it not necessary?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
As long as the boards are solid and they're not punky or soft you really don't need to stabilize.
@geometrydash-krokoo-6503
@geometrydash-krokoo-6503 2 жыл бұрын
This was very good video but I have a few questions. Do you have to use vacuum chamber always or is it enough to leave the wood in cactus juice for a long time? For example a week or two. And does the wood need to be completely dry before the stabilization? Thank you for the answer.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
Just soaking the wood for a few weeks. We'll get the resin a little ways into the wood, but it won't fully penetrate it. Even if you soaked it for a year or more it wouldn't make it all the way through. It does need to be dry. It doesn't have to be 100% dry though. Just very dry. Unless you're doing large pieces such as things more than 4 in a cross. Those you probably want to stick in the oven beforehand to make sure they're fully dry.
@TheRoundHound
@TheRoundHound 4 жыл бұрын
how much weight does cactus juice add? thinking of stabilizing wooden drum sticks and they cant be too heavy. Great video btw!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on the wood. But if they're made out of maple like most of them are it may only be a few grams.
@charleswilliams4517
@charleswilliams4517 3 жыл бұрын
You were talking about Catus Juice but didn’t mention you have to add a hardner to it to make it work??
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
The hardener comes with it it's just a small container You don't add it when you use it you just add it when you get it. They don't add the hardener to the fluid at the factory because a tractor trailer delivering it may actually get hot enough to activate it. when it arrives at your house you can just add the hardener to it immediately and it can sit with the hardener in it for years as long as it doesn't get hot enough for it.
@BigMikeMora
@BigMikeMora 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use stablized wood right away? or can you store it and use it later when you decide what project you want to do with them?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can store it for as long as you want.most of the time I don't stabilize things until they get close to the size that I want to work with.
@TomofAllTrades
@TomofAllTrades 3 жыл бұрын
Have you cut any blocks open to see if the wood is fully stabilized? I was thinking in terms of using a stabilized block then cut in half for knife handle scales. Great video . 👍🏼
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. As long as you leave it with enough time and in that case you'll probably want to dry it completely first. You can do that by vacuum drying the block before adding the stabilizing agent. Or heating it in an oven to around 200° overnight. But yes I have cut open several large blocks. I had a mallet head a few years ago that I stabilized and drilled the handle hole all the way through it afterward. And it was fully stabilized in the middle.
@TomofAllTrades
@TomofAllTrades 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I want to start doing my own handle material. The price of the setup and resin would quickly pay for itself.
@Almost_Baked
@Almost_Baked 5 жыл бұрын
The link to the vacuum pot you provided says that this pot is not suitable for cactus juice and resin stabalizing. How has this held up for you so far?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
It works fine. They put that in to protect them selves. Just do not let the pump suck in the liquid.
@clifforddurrance8234
@clifforddurrance8234 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of wood can I stabilize? I have a hobby of making canes. My cane handles is usually made from soft wood.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
You can stabilize any wood you want. Sometimes with pine and other soft woods you have to leave it in a bit longer as it just takes a little longer for it to get into the small pores.
@scapegallows8101
@scapegallows8101 5 жыл бұрын
How does the wood glue to other wood after completing this process? Does it still bond as well as normal?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
If it is a clean sanded or planned surface it glues the same as it did before.
@AndrewSzeto
@AndrewSzeto 5 жыл бұрын
if i've got glued up wood already (my main medium is skateboards), does stabilization work? Existing glue is primarily titebond 3.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
with scate boards there are no voids to fill. stabilization is mostly with wood that is too soft or has voids to fill. bit if there are void in the glue up then yes you can still do it even with glue.
@AndrewSzeto
@AndrewSzeto 5 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright ahhh awesome!! i am making some climbing holds and miiight just want to fortify them just a bit more!!
@pauls.5815
@pauls.5815 5 ай бұрын
Could you add dye or stain to the juice to color the wood?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 ай бұрын
Sure, but that bottle will always be that color.
@msblades5382
@msblades5382 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a question.... how long c an I pull a vacume using total boat penetrating reson? the thickness of my materal is 1/4inx3inx5in it is bug eaten spalted maple. I plan on thining down the epoxy with asitone... thanks ,,,, Martin
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
You can pull a vacuum as long as you want. Usually I just keep it going until the epoxy sets. And then the vacuum won't do anything more.
@VexChoccyMilk
@VexChoccyMilk 4 жыл бұрын
I have a piece of cocobolo about 2x4x6 inches with hairline micro cracks on the ends about 1/8-1/4" deep would this cactus juice work on cocobolo? Would it fill in these extremely thin cracks?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. This would work perfectly there. You want to make sure you take that vacuum down as far as it can possibly go though It takes a bit more force to get it through that type of wood.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca 4 жыл бұрын
Got any tips on how to harden the surface of an existing wooden object? Such as a natural double bass fretboard
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Penetrating epoxy is great for that.
@bacicinvatteneaca
@bacicinvatteneaca 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thanks
@handplanepastor8558
@handplanepastor8558 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see you turn your spring pole lathe into a vacuum pump.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Lol that would be interesting!
@yarkymoguel9360
@yarkymoguel9360 3 жыл бұрын
Do you stabilize the wooden spoons after carving them?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Generally I do it when I get down close to the size I want. You don't want to do it after you have done your finished carving as you still have to go back through and remove the stabilizer that's left on the surface. Also the stabilizer will warp the wood slightly so if you have an exact shape it won't be the same afterwards.
@PaulK390S90V
@PaulK390S90V 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have to let the blocks sit in the resin after your 2 cycles or once you let the final air back in you can pull them out? Great video, very helpful.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
once the air comes back in they are good to go. thanks Paul!
@PaulK390S90V
@PaulK390S90V 5 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Oh ok awesome. Thanks!
@davidaustin6962
@davidaustin6962 5 жыл бұрын
but I noticed that when you pulled them out of the oven the sides looked as if there was no hardener on the surface ... you think it's still pulling it from residual vacuum in the wood fibers while it was sitting in the oven? Would be fine I suppose if the surface is coming off, but what if you just wanted to keep that surface, should you keep it in the solution for a bit longer at atmosphere before pulling them out?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidaustin6962 I think you are just seeing a trick of the camera. The wood fibers are solid all the way around.
@philipmintz727
@philipmintz727 4 ай бұрын
Where can one buy the epoxy stabilizing compound?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 ай бұрын
Where is the cactus juice I use amzn.to/47LMndL. And here is the epoxy amzn.to/3U9k5Xg
@gabe.robins0n173
@gabe.robins0n173 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mix the whole cactus juice and activator all at once?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. It will still sit on the shelf for years after you add the activator. They just cannot ship it with the activator in already.
@plooms1
@plooms1 4 жыл бұрын
Can you add color to the stabilizer to give the wood color?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Sure. It is often to ad dies
@ryanschoene3358
@ryanschoene3358 5 жыл бұрын
How well does this process work without the vacuum chamber?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
it really does not. with out the vacuum it will only penetrate 1/8" or so into he wood. With the vacuum it will go the whole way through the block.
@jennysmith3239
@jennysmith3239 4 жыл бұрын
I plan to make a 18”x24” wood cutting board that will not warp. It does not need to be food safe since it’s only for decoration. I am considering stabilizing the glued-up strips in order to prevent future moisture intake, which causes potential warping. Should I stabilize with Cactus Juice before or after I glue up the wood strips? Or should I glue up the smaller strips to make the cutting board, rough cut the board to be slightly bigger than my desired final board dimension, then submerge the entire cutting board in Cactus Juice (with the vacuum setup)? Is there a particular kind of glue I should use for this project?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
you can stabilize before glue up that will still glue fine as long as you plane down to new wood. as to glue if it is just for decoration and will not be getting wet then any glue will do, but if getting wet I would use epoxy.
@jennysmith3239
@jennysmith3239 4 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright It sounds like you have made cutting boards out of stabilized wood before. Have your cutting boards warped/twisted/cupped? I thank you for suggesting epoxy glue. Is there a particular epoxy glue product you recommend?
@chuyandrade489
@chuyandrade489 2 жыл бұрын
I wander if I could do this to a vintage wood golf driver!
@LarryDMitchell
@LarryDMitchell 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a few years old but I pulled up your video via a search. I know that the excess Cactus Juice can be used later and that's a positive selling point. You didn't mention if the excess epoxy could be reused. Can it? Also what is the price difference between the Cactus Juice and Epoxy? Thanks...I'm definitely going to get into stabilization soon...just doing some research. Thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
Once epoxy is mixed it will cure, but whatever is left in the bottle would be good for the next time.
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