How to Steer or Guide a Hand Saw Hand tool Woodworking Technique

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Making a long rip cut with a hand saw can be difficult to keep on track when you are first starting out. but understanding a few basic techniques to steer and guide the saw on track can make a world of difference.
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@flashwashington2735
@flashwashington2735 Жыл бұрын
Steering a saw. No wheel or power steering pump. You got a license for that? Very good James. Thank you young man.
@Stephens8x6Workshop
@Stephens8x6Workshop 7 жыл бұрын
Gosh, this took me back some 50 years to our school woodwork teacher who used to drive stuff like this into your brain. I sure thank old Mr Davies for his patience as his wisdom stuck with me all my life. I do hope your video's inspire the younger generation to learn good woodworking skills like this instead of just reaching for the latest power tool. Thanks for this.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thank you. that is about the highest praise I could get. that is what I am reaching for.
@Ron-FabandBuild
@Ron-FabandBuild 4 жыл бұрын
Great instruction James. Thank you. I know I have this problem myself after relying on power tools all these years. The muscle memory has eluded me, but alas, I shall retrain them once more. Thanks again.
@rick91443
@rick91443 7 жыл бұрын
Great way to end the day James, watching one of your videos...richard from Normandy, France
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! sleep well!
@davidclark9086
@davidclark9086 7 жыл бұрын
I came back to this video the other day when a project called for lots of longer sawing with a panel saw. I used your advise and am so very pleased. After about an hour I had it down perfect and can stay of line for very long rip. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet! now that is what I love to hear! thanks for the great encouragement. I am glad I could help.
@jadebird647
@jadebird647 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. Just what I needed to improve my sawing skills.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Jade. glad I could help.
@watermain48
@watermain48 7 жыл бұрын
Great tips James, thanks for sharing them with us.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thans Bill!
@akshi_az
@akshi_az 6 жыл бұрын
I think that's the best explanation on sawing process I ever saw. Very helpful for me. Thank you!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Alexander. that means a lot.
@danielsolowiej
@danielsolowiej 7 жыл бұрын
Good tips for typical problems. As all in life, things must be corrected at time
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
very true! thanks Daniel!
@SuperRedhat123
@SuperRedhat123 7 жыл бұрын
Watched it last night, used it today, and I'll be darned if it wasn't the best handsaw rip I've ever done. Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thank you! that means a lot. the best part of uploading videos is helping people out.
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 7 жыл бұрын
James what a great tutorial type video and this saw video gave me a chance to see what I'm doing wrong. I think this will definitely help me with my dovetailing.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks thom.
@DanielNisbet
@DanielNisbet 7 жыл бұрын
Massive help- thanks so much, James!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks Daniel!
@leobaltz2057
@leobaltz2057 7 жыл бұрын
great information james!! love the channel and the podcast! Big fan!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks.we are having fun with the podcast.
@opasworkshop8373
@opasworkshop8373 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing James. very instructional.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Opa!
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice James!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Fred!
@chriscunicelli7070
@chriscunicelli7070 7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Your advice is right on from my experience.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks Chris!
@benjaminfrayser4392
@benjaminfrayser4392 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you again, Mr Wright. Working on my first project over the weekend I was veering quite a bit. It is going to be a saw bench so I am not to worried about minor appearance flaws (ends are still square). 1) you confirmed it is my form; 2) you give me confidence I can get better; 3) until then, I now have some tricks to fix wavering cuts.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet man. That is what I like to hear.
@DesertBumWoodWorkn
@DesertBumWoodWorkn 7 жыл бұрын
Real good info James, it will help when i try this.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks man. hope it helps out!
@cobberpete1
@cobberpete1 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, very informative.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Peter!
@EvanDunville
@EvanDunville 7 жыл бұрын
fantastic advise I have struggled with those exact problems.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks Evan. hope it helps!
@mcgyverswoodshopadventures5429
@mcgyverswoodshopadventures5429 7 жыл бұрын
Great tips, beautiful saw by the way
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
+Mcgyver's Wood Shop & Adventures thanks and thanks.
@davidclark9086
@davidclark9086 7 жыл бұрын
Another very helpful video. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks David!
@stephenkent8903
@stephenkent8903 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great help for me. I have a big problem with cutting a straight line. I will keep these tips in mind next time I saw.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Don't know too much fun. Thanks
@Fazajaksmok
@Fazajaksmok 7 жыл бұрын
just found your channel and i love it
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. That means a lot. if there is ever anything I can do just let me know.
@JimDockrellWatertone
@JimDockrellWatertone 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips. I have to remember the "back up" method. I usually have just tried to correct as I go. I have some awkward body mechanics due to an injury so I am learning to compensate. What tells me a lot is seeing myself on video. Another of Shannon's tips, video yourself. I often pick up the handsaw instead of the much easier, and just as accessible mitre saw or table saw. Just for the practice. Besides, it is a lot of fun and one of the most basic of skills. One of the best to keep up on.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
definitely! I get to see my self all the time. it can really drive me crazy sometimes! LOL
@davebauerart
@davebauerart 7 жыл бұрын
Wow I have to try this. I didn't learn this in shop class. Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks. there are few things as nice as a clean cut!
@erniesouza6263
@erniesouza6263 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! I'm not a hand tool guy, but on occasion may need to make a hand cut. Always go off line and become frustrated. You have given me great hope and tools now that I can correct my cuts and with practice improve. thanks so much for this video! Ernie
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Ernie! thanks for watching!
@BDM_PT
@BDM_PT 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there from Portugal, Nice :D Obrigado(Thanks)
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@robertevans6481
@robertevans6481 7 жыл бұрын
Great tips gonna save this one for future reference....
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! hope it helps you.
@lemuelsanborn5986
@lemuelsanborn5986 7 жыл бұрын
Good tips, thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
+Lemuel Sanborn my pleasure!
@Woodified
@Woodified 7 жыл бұрын
I learned to cut by hand a few years ago. I now use the hand saw pretty often. I've never tried the backup method. I just correct as I go. Thanks for the tip
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! it can be useful if you are getting way off corse.
@einde79
@einde79 7 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. 👍 greetings from Holland.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@WildmanTech
@WildmanTech 7 жыл бұрын
Good tips.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
+Wildman Tech thanks mana.
@MyVinylRips
@MyVinylRips 6 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorials. You're really good at explaining and teaching.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Klaus. if there is ever anything you want to see just let me know..
@MyVinylRips
@MyVinylRips 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, James! Well, since you ask (and I'm not completely sure that you haven't covered this yet), I'd love to learn more about tapering a leg with hand tools! There are other videos on this, of course, but I've kinda gotten to like your approach to things..!
@MyVinylRips
@MyVinylRips 6 жыл бұрын
And while we're at it, I would also love to learn more about the different kind of spokeshaves and shaping tools that would be used in the process, as well as tools and ways to maintain the proportions, etc, while shaping.
@TheFreshmanWIT
@TheFreshmanWIT 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I like the quick-hit technique videos like this! 1 thing that I am thinking about making that might be a good project for you: A plane/chisel storage station. I've seen a bunch where they store the planes vertically on a wall, which seems to save a ton of space. Might be a nice addition to your shop and a cool project to boot!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! I am holding off on making a new tool cabinet tell I move into a new shop, but who knows I might start it earlier.
@mathurm100
@mathurm100 7 жыл бұрын
dude... awesome. i've just gotten into hand tools and have been wondering how to fix this problem. great video
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
+mathurm100 thanks. My pleasure.
@YouCanMakeThisToo
@YouCanMakeThisToo 7 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! I'm slowly trying to use hand tools more in my work, the push saw is something that's intimidated me though. Haven't used one since I was a kid and it was bad, haha. This definitely demystifies getting better results. Do these ideas work with pull saws as well? Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! They work with pull saws but with a pull saw the leading edge of the cut is on the other side of the board so you have to regularly stop and check the other side, but the same principles apply.
@adamwhiteson6866
@adamwhiteson6866 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Bravo! I thought I was the only one who had figured out these tricks. LOL. There just isn't enough discussion about the details of sawing technique. Hand sawing is an underdeveloped skill among us hand tool users. Yes! Correct immediately with fine corrections. Be alert to the smallest deviation and track back. Steering is very limited before it begins to kick the far side of the blade out of line. Back up, press against the side of the blade and use the teeth on one side as a rasp! It takes time. There's no way around that. You can make significant improvement quite quickly with these tips but the rest takes time on the tools. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
So true. It is an amazingly simple skill but makes a huge difference!
@edreese3514
@edreese3514 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@TheTchieX
@TheTchieX 7 жыл бұрын
I have s few old Disston's and I found one that always cut to the left. After realizing it was not my technique I ended up buying a saw set and made sure all the teeth were set the same. It fixed the issue and it cuts great now. Just wanted to add that incase someone is struggling with a specific saw. If you have more than one saw verify your technique with them on lines of a scrap board, then turn to a saw set next. Good video.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Right on. the other option is to stone the side it is turning to. that way you do not end up with too much set. but I try to set the teeth on my saws every 3-5 sharpenings.
@terrulian
@terrulian 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, I'll practice. Any similar tips on keeping the cut square in the other dimension?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
that is all about how you stand. if you ate too close or too far from the saw you will move the back of the cut side to side.
@mihumus
@mihumus 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting input!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comment! LOL thanks!
@mihumus
@mihumus 7 жыл бұрын
I will try to be more loving the next time. I have to go to sleep now, I'm sorry. :D
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL I was just having fun with ambiguity.
@mihumus
@mihumus 7 жыл бұрын
I need urgently an English dictionary! LOL
@mglennon5535
@mglennon5535 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff......
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@DOCDARKNESSREAL
@DOCDARKNESSREAL 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip on he recovery method fella 💪 gotta get the muscle memory in tow
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc! definitely!
@roguemind
@roguemind 7 жыл бұрын
I constantly have to remind myself that the saw is straight. I say this because I worry about the back side to much and ruin cuts. The front side runs true but the back side is chaos. I focused to much on following the front line and forgot to keep the saw straight. body mechanics that you mentioned helps so much.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
very true. it is amazing what can happen when the body mechanics are all in line!
@amezingcarpentry1421
@amezingcarpentry1421 7 жыл бұрын
nice dear sir!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 7 жыл бұрын
Great advice as usual. However, I find that using my table saw gives me a straight cut all of the time! :) Steve
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL but where is the fun in that! LOL
@deezynar
@deezynar 7 жыл бұрын
Very good information on getting back on track. And it's nice that you mentioned Shannon Rogers, he's real good at that stuff. On a side note, many people start a talk like this by telling people to point their pointer finger forward. You said you weren't going to go into body mechanics, so it's expected that you didn't mention the grip, and it was enough that your grip was clearly shown in the video. Those folks who emphasize having the pointer finger forward rarely mention that the thumb needs to oppose that finger with equal force, whether light, or heavy, or else the finger can push the saw to the side. On another topic; I'm a bit older than you, I mention that because in my lifetime I never heard, or read, anyone refer to a saw blade, as a 'plate' until about 2 years ago when I heard Christopher Schwarz say it. I have a number of books, some are over a hundred years old, they all use saw 'blade'. Frid, Krenov, Jones, Hasluck, Hayword, Underhill, they all use the word 'blade'. Check for yourself, look in all of your books. I have no idea where Schwarz got it from. I'm guessing that he is having a bit of fun with people. He also uses the word chop for vice jaws. I had heard that before, not nearly as frequently as jaw. Schwarz: good guy, very worthwhile to study, just not sure about some of his word choices.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks. there is a lot of argument on what things are called and it is true the traditional name for the main body of the saw was blade. the term Plate came into use more in the 50s and 60 as it was punched from plate steel. and is now the industry way of referring to it but anytime someone has a traditional look they call it the blade. I have never looked into the term of chop though I might have to do that some time. thanks for the idea!
@deezynar
@deezynar 7 жыл бұрын
James, you are a good guy.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Cactusworkshopchannel
@Cactusworkshopchannel 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting! because I never go straight :D thanks man!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
+Cactus! workshop lol thanks!
@olyjfitness
@olyjfitness 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video enjoyed it Few questions if I may? 1) I notice you go forward first while setting your starting point is this the prefered method 2) I noticed your angle is moving upwards into the saw. Is this just to start and you level off during the cut and move down or maintain level cut? 3) I always struggle to decide where to look while cutting. Do I watch the saw moving down the line on the waste side or just gauge an overall view. Ie do I close one eye to get more accuracy? Hope they make sense 😁
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
1. yes. if possible you do not want to drag the file backward on the steel it will dull the file faster. 2. I am not sure what you mean by this? 3. I just watch the gullet I am working on between strokes. both eyes give better depth perception.
@JeepTherapy
@JeepTherapy 6 жыл бұрын
Hey this video should help the 2x6 guy! Good pointers btw.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
ya I should have remembered that one.
@GNU_Linux_for_good
@GNU_Linux_for_good 7 жыл бұрын
Is using a straight block of wood for the first inch or so regarded as cheating [sometimes I use even two blocks (clamp one down) in order to keep the blade straight]?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
some people like to do that. you can even put a magnet in the side of the block and hold Japanese saws(they have no set) in place. it can be a good way to learn how to hold the saw, but it is a personal preference. but they can tend to wander after the first inch with improper form. that is just something you have to learn with thime.
@newinspiration2108
@newinspiration2108 7 жыл бұрын
oh, don't forget your steering wheel fluid too!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL yup
@bearkatwood6354
@bearkatwood6354 7 жыл бұрын
Chugga chugga chew thru that wood. ;) Nice tips.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks!
@tonyennis3008
@tonyennis3008 4 жыл бұрын
For the situation at around 5:50, I use the front quarter of the saw only. There no reason to add more sawplate, which creates a worse situation, and is harder. As I complete the correction, I being using more and more of the wide part of the saw.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
That can be very useful.
@tonyennis3008
@tonyennis3008 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright I was ripping yesterday. Next time I'll try your first technique. Seems just far better.
@brothyr
@brothyr 7 жыл бұрын
where do I get a tooth-setting tool?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
this is the one I have! amzn.to/2iLzFov but you can get them cheaper at antique stores from time to time.
@bakerzermatt
@bakerzermatt 11 ай бұрын
Do you have any tips for sawing straight with Japanese saws? I'm ok with western saws, but my cuts with Japanese saws are downright embarrassing.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 11 ай бұрын
As long as the saw is set up straight the big benefit with Japanese saws is they track straight down the line. You really have very little control once you've set it up and start cutting. The reason being is the leading tooth is on the far side of the saw. With a western saw the leading tooth is on your side so you have far more control over twisting it. With a Japanese saw you need to do a lot of twisting and turning to make it turn in the cut so the best tip is set it up perfectly straight at the beginning. If you're finding that it's constantly curving in the same direction then there's a problem with your saw.
@bakerzermatt
@bakerzermatt 11 ай бұрын
@@WoodByWright Thanks! The saw is probably fine, it's likely just my lousy technique with Japanese saws...
@benjaminbec
@benjaminbec 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cyborg from africa
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL thnaks!
@MarekKorkusinski
@MarekKorkusinski 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to ask you about cutting with the Japanese saw. As far as I can see, a lot of control that you are demonstrating comes from the fact that you are cutting on the push stroke, so the saw seems to engage the wood on the surface of the plank that is facing you. With a Japanese saw you will cut on the pull stroke, so maybe the action takes place on the other side of the board. Would you agree? If yes, is there anything different in the way that you handle a pull saw?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
correct. the western saw is easier to control, but that means that any arm movement or poor body style will cause it to veer off course. the problem most people have is that they over control the saw. with an eastern saw, the action is on the far side. That makes it very hard to steer and you have to put a lot of force in the saw to make it turn. that is one of the big reasons beginners often like the eastern saw more. as long as it is set up correctly and you aim it correctly at the start you are a very small factor in where it is going. but if you are off in your aim or the saw has one bad tooth it will want to go offline and there is little you can do to bring it back.
@adamwhiteson6866
@adamwhiteson6866 5 жыл бұрын
Japanese plates are very thin. The back end goes off track much more easily due to vibration or unbalanced pressure from the operator. If you aren't careful, it will "flutter" as you pull the plate into the kerf. Nor do you get as much feedback about what the teeth are doing. Japanese carpenters frequently look over the board or saw from two sides. High end Japanese plates that are hammered stiff are prone to have teeth break off - much more significant on a short plate than it is on a long Western plate. I've had a Japanese saw track perfectly on the line both back and front only to find out that inside the board it had walked off track and cut a bulge. Not dissing Japanese saws but they have their own advantages and disadvantages. There's no way around it. Sawing is hard and needs serious practice. I started out with Japanese saws because they seemed easier to start the cut - a real problem for a novice. In the end I found I do best with Western saws.
@AshleyK1ng
@AshleyK1ng 7 жыл бұрын
Do you sharpen your own saws ? And is wood work your full time job ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
yes I sharpen all my saws. and if you can call it work then yes it is my full-time job, but I do not do commission work.
@AshleyK1ng
@AshleyK1ng 7 жыл бұрын
nice job on the sharpening , how many years have you been sharpening ?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have been sharpening them for just over a year.
@herminigildojakosalem8664
@herminigildojakosalem8664 6 жыл бұрын
I have no problem hand sawing following a line. What i have difficulty with is sawing square. No matter how carefully I do it, I cannot cut squarely. Even with my jigsaw and or my circular saw cutting free-hand my sawing is not square. I'm so frustrated.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
I can understand the jigsaw and hand saw, but I don't know how the circular saw can get out of square without adjusting the bed. that is interesting. with a jig saw or hand saw it comes from sideways force. on a jigsaw, there is some force moving the whole saw to the side. your side of the cut then becomes the fulcrum that the blade bends on. it may be on the line on your side but the blade is off to one side or more. that is often caused by looking too closely at the cut on your side of the saw. This will naturally make you push the saw away from you . with a hand saw that is normally just body mechanics, but it is the same thing that you are putting force on the handle side to side and not just in line with the blade. normally that is because your body is too close to the line of the cut. if standing move 3-6" away from the line of the cut and let your arm run in line with the saw. if kneeling this is often a problem with where your knee is. that will force you to move your body closer tot he line of the cut.
@herminigildojakosalem8664
@herminigildojakosalem8664 6 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright - OK. Thank you.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
hope it helps. if not shoot a video of your self from 2-3 different angles and the problem normally becomes apparent.
@markbaker9459
@markbaker9459 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the seesaw, did you see what I saw? You wood if you did what I did. I looked.
@danstokes640
@danstokes640 6 жыл бұрын
That saw must be sharp you’re cutting down the Grain fairly easily
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
actually, it is on the dull side. when it is sharp I can keep up with most cheaper table saws.
@Fundoracarpentry
@Fundoracarpentry 7 жыл бұрын
A table saw will solve the problem
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 7 жыл бұрын
LOL but create all new ones. maybe later this year. LOL
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