How to String Align your car for Toe Adjustment, front or rear

How to String Align your car for Toe Adjustment, front or rear - String Alignment

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String it! It's the String Alignment process for Toe Adjustment, at home. (Versus Laser Aligning at a dedicated alignment shop) Two episode's ago we used Quick Trick Alignment's system to measure Caster, Camber, and Toe, where my measurements were way off! Last episode, we fixed the Caster and Camber, now we need to String Align the car to ensure we're driving straight. Subscribe for more how to's and driving events.
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@cuzz63 2 ай бұрын

Love your GTO. I just installed UMI tubular control arms on my 72 CHevelle, replacing the stock arms. I also lowered my car 2 inches or so when I did this. I needed to drive the car a ways to get it aligned so I used strings and tape measure and managed to get it within a few degrees so I could drive it to the shop....thanks for the assist.

@FastMonty 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Brother! You're gonna LOVE your new stance and performance of those new A arms. Have fun!

@rogerairborne 10 ай бұрын

I've been diong string alignments for years with good results but I still picked up a few tips from this video. Well done!

@FastMonty 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Roger! Much appreciated, and glad I could inspire some new ideas! Thanks for the comment.

@NicholasRiviera-Dr Жыл бұрын

Another great video and it’s great you spoke about centering the steering system first. I’ve seen a few KZfaq videos on toe and some forget to mention to straighten your steering system first. Most important, it’s the starting point. Imagine going to the trouble of adjusting the toe perfectly and then getting into the car and realising that the steering wheel is out by 10 degrees (or similar) 🤦‍♂️

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Ha! Exactly! Thanks for the comment!

@scottcoleman284 2 жыл бұрын

100% agree that using MM to measure is tons easier. Good tutorial!

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott! Yeah, I need metric rulers now. Ha, ha...

@msquicktrick5068 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video Mike! Keep up the great work. Love how you share your knowledge.

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tess! Much appreciated!

@Rick-O-Shay60 2 жыл бұрын

Good one Mike. Haven't got to this point on my build yet, although this video will sure come in handy when I have. Thanks bud.

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome! Thanks for the comment!

@hdbhehddbz Жыл бұрын

I took my car to a shop today and they gouged, yes gouged, my camber plates trying to lever them to the desired camber setting. From now on I do all my own alignments. Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and tips.

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Ohhhh man. Exactly why I don't trust ANYONE with my cars. Well, at least my nice cars, ha, ha... If you're looking for more alignment ideas, here's my latest video where QuickTrick added a stringing feature. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKxngbSYv9rcj4k.html Thanks for the comment!

@dickjohnson5025 Жыл бұрын

Wow. That’s not necessary. All you need is a dowel and a hammer. Just tap it to move the plates. Idiots

@NicholasRiviera-Dr Жыл бұрын

That’s the reason I work on my cars, it’s just another job to most others

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

@@NicholasRiviera-Dr Agreed! Thanks Nicholas!

@mchristr 27 күн бұрын

Most cars do NOT have equal front/rear track width. You'll usually have to construct a string rectangle around the car. Thanks for posting.

@FastMonty 27 күн бұрын

Yeah, depends on the age, for sure. Thanks!

@southern_merican Жыл бұрын

13:45 great explanation 👍 i forgot u only get half of the difference between toe measurements!

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I honestly forgot, until I wrote it down... thanks for the comment!

@commandohazelnuts 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Monty! First time viewer here, I'm looking to figure out how to adjust my toe on both sides to straighten my steering wheel! I just replaced the center drag link on my 1985 Mercedes 190e and wanna sort out the crooked steering wheel

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

Hey James, welcome to the channel. I'm not an expert on Mercedes... It'll depend if you can remove the steering wheel, or not. Most wheels that are easily removed, like on my car, it mounts to a splined shaft, so you can remove it, rotate it one spline, and put it back on. That's one method. On other cars you have to make that change at the gear box, where the steering shaft is connected. Sorry, I'm not much help for your case, maybe try researching some diagrams for changing the wheel position for your car. After you figure that out, use this video to dial in your Toe. Let us know how it goes!

@commandohazelnuts 2 жыл бұрын

@@FastMonty To be honest, this Mercedes is as intuitive as cars can get. The steering was fixed by simply disconnecting the tie rods on both end of the center drag link. Straightened the steering wheel, then straighten the wheels until visually straight. I tightened it all up, and made sure the turn signals were in the right spot still. Went to alignment shop and $80 Im aligned!

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

@@commandohazelnuts Awesome! I love it when a plan comes together. :)

@thomaspiini7981 2 жыл бұрын

I also have an A-Body. But with 15” wheels. Yours look to be much larger that 15”. If I measure a 1/16” toe in my inward angle will be more than that on your 1/16” on a larger diameter wheel. Is there a standard diameter where these measurements are supposed to be made?

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

Great question Thomas... The answer is yes. From what I've researched, the Toe is actually measured at the OD of the tire. So, assuming our tires are around 26", 1/32" (.03125") toe would equate to an angle of .1377303 degrees. So, measuring where I measured, call it 9.5 inches from center, the actual measurement should be (.02283"), whereas with a 15" wheel, you'd be at (.01802") Keep in mind that 1/64" is (.015625") So, in essence, we could get really anal, and use a digital caliper and measure 15 thousandths, or eye ball it on a ruler somewhere between 1/64 and 1/32. :) I think for ease of measuring, and adjusting, both of us are fine at using 1/32 on a ruler. :) Thanks for making me break out my HP 48SX, lol. Hope that helps!

@thanhtaik7267 10 ай бұрын

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@HomeImprovementInsider Жыл бұрын

I need to do this, just had wllwood brakes installed on my 79 TA, all out of whack the front end is now.

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Congrats on your brake upgrade! Here's my latest string aligning video, it's really easy if you have the Quick Trick rig. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKxngbSYv9rcj4k.html Either way, have fun driving straight again!

@cuzz63 2 ай бұрын

why would installing new brakes knock the alignment out?

@MikeJones-rk1un 8 ай бұрын

Wrap a string line around all 4 wheels at once. Use blocks to hold string off the tires and measure.

@FastMonty 8 ай бұрын

Ummm , that "might" work for squared cars. But, will not work for staggered wheels. Thanks!

@MikeJones-rk1un 8 ай бұрын

@@FastMonty Use the right standoff blocks and it will.

@FastMonty 8 ай бұрын

@MikeJones-rk1un nope. It's not that easy. The way I documented the process is how you do it, without special equipment. If you want special equipment, check out my QuickString alignment video. Thx

@MikeJones-rk1un 8 ай бұрын

@@FastMonty It's very easy and faster doing all 4 at once. Of course if you don't like to learn better ways....

@FastMonty 8 ай бұрын

I'm all about finding better ways... this is the BEST way, check it out. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKxngbSYv9rcj4k.htmlsi=sfyTOGsE0b4TfmL1 @@MikeJones-rk1un

@65chevelleboys91 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Mike not sure if I missed it but brakes should be applied when doing Alignment adjustments something I learned at the Hunter Alignment classes I have taken

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard that before... is that so the car doesn't roll off the lift? ha, ha... do you know why that is?

@reza_dc2 Жыл бұрын

Does it matter that your rear wheels are wider and have a different offset than the fronts?

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

It sure does! I cover that in this video, which is a royal pain in the A$$. Ironically, there's a new solution to speed up the set up, AND I just finished filming that episode. It will air by Monday, if not sooner. Stay on the lookout! Thanks for the great question.

@reza_dc2 Жыл бұрын

@@FastMonty Sounds good , thanks 🙏

@cuzz63 2 ай бұрын

so you like go cart wheels on real cars? His look great.

@FastMonty 2 жыл бұрын

UPDATE February 2023, Here's the NEW way to string align if you have, or considering buying the Quick Trick System. Check it out; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKxngbSYv9rcj4k.html Be sure to subscribe for more, click here; kzfaq.info Then get your FMG hat here; three color combos www.etsy.com/shop/fastmontysgarage

@63grandsport11 Жыл бұрын

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@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Check out my latest video about stringing...way easier! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hKxngbSYv9rcj4k.html

@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 3 ай бұрын

The oversized clown shoe rims and rubber band tires looks STUPID AF. To install factory looking rims that have been stretched to look stupid af is mind blowing.

@FastMonty 3 ай бұрын

Your comment is Mind Blowing AF. NO ONE cares about your opinion about my wheel choice. (Clearly your wheels are too small. :)) Next time you leave a comment, try acting like a normal human being and comment about the CONTENT of the video. See ya!

@markstone5593 Жыл бұрын

3 and almost 7/8th of an inch LOL why not just use metric measurements. eg. 98mm.

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Exactly why I said a metric ruler would be better to use. Thanks.

@markstone5593 Жыл бұрын

@@FastMonty I know😁, it's just funny when we (the rest of the world) watch you guys measure things and start doing equations 👍

@jasonnelson6624 Жыл бұрын

@@markstone5593 I can't speak for Monty, but any mention of using metric or suggestions of it being easier. Will get meet with pushback. Even on something like using a metric tape measure. I've had multiple friends or family members argue with me that I should use imperial tape measures, and how easy they are. Im lazy I don't want the extra step of fractions. I don't know if it just out of being stubborn or stuck in there ways. But I don't see a switch to metric here in the USA. Not in my life time at least. Owning metric sockets is using the metic system for some lol. Im all for whatever is easiest and less work for me.

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

@@markstone5593 You should hear how it sounds in my head, before my mouth starts going. ha!

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

@@jasonnelson6624 Totally agree. Metric is easier, BUT, it will never be adopted in the US. Thanks Jason!

@VolvoLaplanderCamper 3 ай бұрын

Use the floor instead faster and easyer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mMp6nLJ037_Il6s.html

@FastMonty 3 ай бұрын

Interesting. But, looks way harder to do if you have to make adjustments. This kit allows you do to it in one set up. Thanks for sharing.

@VolvoLaplanderCamper 3 ай бұрын

The little adjustment that are often needed are easily done without freeing the wheels so it's not so hard to put a hand in under the car, but it works only for toe. On higher 4x4 cars, it is easier to do it under the car and mark on inside the wheels with tapemeusure roll it 180" forward and measure againe to get all slack that's in joints in the measurement. Put on zero mm and adjust after behaver on the road.

@vatoteporocho9109 9 ай бұрын

I can't do math apparently

@FastMonty 9 ай бұрын

Ha! Welcome to the club.

@robertbairt9094 Жыл бұрын

Put Her back to stock 🙈

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

Never!!! Lol

@jasonfarnsworth5880 Жыл бұрын

You don’t need bearing plates you need to pieces of cardboard laying on top of each other under the tire works just fine and it’s free

@FastMonty Жыл бұрын

You're right, Jason. I do mention the same in this series. But, it is still easier than using just cardboard. Thanks!

@jasonfarnsworth5880 Жыл бұрын

@@FastMonty You’re right to brother and I see you have all kinds of cool as nice tools real professional appreciate that thanks for the info

@micheldevries7975 Жыл бұрын

True

@dickjohnson5025 Жыл бұрын

I bought 8 cheap plastic placemats from the dollar store, the hard plastic ones, not squishy. A little grease between two of them, then place under each tire. Easy and repeatable.