Thank You for the information! I've been noticing "swing weight" on club spec. sheets for years, but never gave it much thought. From age 9-22, I played and practiced seriously every day, year round. Then I just stopped. After a 15 year hiatus from playing, I'm getting back into it. I can't believe how much the technology has changed. So I'm in the process of choosing my equipment and I want the best performing clubs I can get, and I've been told by many to get a custom fitting. So I'm trying to learn the different variables and specs and what effect they have. This was very informative! Thanks again!

Jim I’m new to club repair . Have done all my own for sometime now. Have I made mistakes along the way? You bet I have. That’s how you learn. I’ve enjoyed the search for better techniques and I must say you have delivered on that front. When weighting out a club you’re essentially setting it up for what ever swing weight the customer is asking for. Thanks Jim.! John

Your volume was very low on this video as compared to the others you do. Great information none the less. I've learned so much from you. My hat is off to you sir.

I've played Wishon 555M since 2004? With R300 shafts. They are lazers. Just amazing

No. My Titleist 690s are all D2, 2deg flat (I have a bending machine); 915 D3, 10.5, 44-3/4, D4; RBZ Tour 3W, 25deg, D2.5; MacTec 5W, 18deg D2.5; Taylor Made 5R, 21deg, D2; MacTec 7W, 24deg, D2; Adams 6R, 28deg, D4; these are fitted with the original AJ Tech Z42, cherry red shafts. I made all of the above except my driver. My Vokey Wedges are also 2deg flat; 48/7, 54/14, 58/12 & 62/7, all D5, with Wedge shafts. I have the same SW machine, and CPM reader. My coach taught me a lot. Oh yeah, Scotty Cameron, 1997 Laguna Putter. I enjoy the game, love helping with kids golf camps, and helping friends when asked. 🤪

Well I didn't know there was so much to consider but added 16gram weights by extending my P760 irons 7/8" and the weights that were 7/8" long from Golfworks weigh 16 grams. I didn't know about the plastic inserts you mentioned so I epoxy glued a stainless steel washer to keep the weight from sliding past the extension. 3 layers of tape, Golf Pride midsize CP2 grips and the clubs are now very well balanced. Before they felt bottom heavy and I couldn't feel the club head very well or control it near as much. NS pro 105 shafts made this a success, otherwise the 16 gram weights would have been too heavy if I had R300 shafts. Also, was worried that making the regular flex metal shafts longer would make them too flexible. Only noticed this slightly a couple times when trying to hit my 3 iron as hard as I can. Since they are now an inch longer I don't need to bend them 2 up. Penny for thoughts and/or SW ballpark estimate?

Alan, I would frequency match the equipment without any added weight then add weight for the desired weight and then recheck the frequency to see if it is in your allowed range, if not then trim again. SW is predicated on the length where frequency is determine by trimming and weight

What should be done first, the swing weight or the frequency matching. Thank you so much for your channel. I'm the only club maker in Portugal and if it wasn't your videos i would have take so much long to learn...

I know for a fact that when lee Trevino would get new clubs sent to him he would remove those weights from shaft, I asked him why and in his opinion it didn’t reflect a true weight. And he then smear lead tape all over his irons so much that told him I was afraid he get cancer! He just smiled and asked if wanted some lead tape, lol. American treasure

Good stuff. I found heavier swing weight promotes a smoother swing for me... being able to feel the club head throughout the swing causes me to work WITH the club and let it do the work. So to speak.

There 3-kick points; lower to hit the ball higher; mid-kick for average height; and the higher kick point that we better players like. We have a better feel of the head, allowing us to maneuver the ball, high, low, left or right, and controlling distance/spin. I played the 550 Wishon Blades for awhile, but my friend wanted to golf, so I gave him my set. I fitted him, and bent the irons 2deg upright. He loves them.

Best video ever about this 🤓 I use midsize grips and have discovered that they tend to be all over the board on weight. I've found some grips that I like but they are on the heavy side. I thought to add weights at the tip to get my swing weight back up if I use those grips. But of course... I have another complication? I use ascending mass shafts. Does that mean a different weight at the tip for every club to have an even swing weight throughout? Or are they designed to have different swing weights?

No problem, if you have any other questions just ask

Mine are balanced & blue printed all with AJ Tech Z42s. I love the Wishon Irons feel.

im a ole timer i use a wrap of lead tape under my grips an i out drive everyone i ever played with cause it helps me release the club better

Very informative video. Thanks for posting. Would you frequency match the club and then add weight that achieve the desired swing weight or vice versa?

Very clear video!! Currently, I would like to change ferrules of my iron and wedge, and adjust the swing weight because originally was from D1 to D3 in random way (Modus3 105s +0.5", Mizuno jpx921 forged, plus4 grip, manufactury mount). So, i need to buy a set of brass weights before pull down all heads, do you have any suggestion about most used weight? (I would not buy all weight 2g-9g) I have around 90mph with #7, not so fast tempo, currently I set D3 with lead tape in all iron #4-#pw .... although D3 seems ok, I have in mind to set D2 for #4-#9 or keep D3. (sorry for my US english)

Thanks for the video. I just had my clubs spine orientated and FLO’d, and had the swing weight set at D2 for most except PW, GW and SW, which were set higher. They were mostly C9 or close so not a significant weight gain. I’ve been searching the net, without success, to find out what this change in weight, plus spine orientation, plus FLO does to the lie angle, if any impact at all. I’m playing tomorrow so I’ll be interested to see how they go. Thanks in advance if you can provide an answer.

I am changing shafts from Dynamic Gold S300 XP to Dynamic Gold S300 105’s on my JPX800 Pro Forged Irons. I just did only the 7 iron. When removing the OEM shaft on the club there was a 4gm tip weight. I installed the weight in the new shaft. So all total the new club weighs 424 gm. The original setup weighed 433 gm. So I was looking to provide a lighter shaft but with a bit more consistency as I’m 70 yr old. I hit my 7 iron ~ 150 yards carry prior to the change. I recently went for a fitting that suggested JPX921 Hot Metal irons with the DG S300 105 shafts so I thought they would work for my irons due to similar head weights etc.What’s your input on this change? I will be testing live on course soon before making any other changes to my set.

Hi love the videos! My 6 iron is forged blade with d2 swing weight and 380 grams graphite stiff. It’s 38 years old and won my club championships recently. It’s hard for me to find a d2 with an overall lighter weight club. I’m 53 and not getting younger so a lighter club is easier on the body but I like to feel the head. Any suggestions? I’ve tried so many sets! Your advice would be great. I also want to stay with a forged club for feel and accuracy.

Me being a tinkerer and new to alot of this, not golf but this part of golf, with no proper fitters around and a couple spare putter lying about that i'm going to regrip, if i wanted to up the swing weight for a putter, would i be better off using powder in the shaft or tape on the head itself? Slight arc stroke, 33" putter. Old ping zing putterhead.

I can honestly say that if you did not post your videos, I would not be able to duplicate my clubs, I have found a new passion: I now have four iron sets, each a bit different (CB/MB), but still my fit, swing weight, length, and so on. My little shop of golf, obsessively, looks like your shop. Your time spent in the trade is obvious, and it has motivated me into a direction that I would have never thought. Thank you. I do have one question.... I have a set of Cleveland CG1 Black MB irons, that are non-conforming. These blades are my preferred choice to play, even though I have tried to replace, or suffice with another set of built irons, but to no mental avail. Can the grooves be filled, or something be done by, either by Cleveland, or another service, to save these irons from the trash bin ?

I have found conflicting info on swing weight and grip weight. I have read +4g grams in grip weight decrease 1 swing weight point. I also read +5 g and +10g changes 1 swing weight point. I'm going with your +4 g suggestion.

If I were to cut down my shaft 5/8 inch on my irons cause they are .25" over standard length and way too long, could I add tungsten powder down the shaft and cork it? If I have titleist blades will this affect the club heads sweet spot or anything like that? They are at D3 right now and I like that weight but I have to choke down almost an inch on the grip every time cause I am only 5'7. I believe they will be at C9 or so after the cut. Combined with a lighter grip and some tungsten powder is this feasible? Thanks, I really like your videos!

I have a Rapture with the blue Aldila VS 65-R in the basement.

On another subject.. how to reshaft a ping g700 iron..taped shoulder ferrules... bought a couples sets none seem to fit right..too tight in the iron head won't allow entrance

Your videos are educational to say the least, I have switched from steel to graphite and I'm having trouble getting the swing weight to a D1, what do you recomend to get to that swing weight without lead tape? Used powder and a plug, I'm giving it all i can in the hosel, it simply doesn't hold anymore weight. I hoping u have a simple salution. Thank you.

jim, this video is a bit old, however, I found that I really like MCA C6 Black iron-hybrid shafts. They are a bit light at 80 grams so i need to add weight to iron heads. I like the Golfworks TS-1 head but they lack of a weight port is a problem as the ID of the top of the C6 shaft is pretty small, too small for graphite shaft tip weights. While I can add lead tape to the heads, that is not aesthetically ideal. Do you have any other thoughts on how to increase the SW with this head/shaft combo? Bob from Logansport.

Hello sir, love the videos! I have a question for you. I currently game mizuno jpx 825 irons and would like to switch the shafts from steel to UST Recoil 95 graphites. Is it important to weight the heads when making such a switch? The tt dynalites that are in my irons currently weigh 117 grams, the recoils weigh from 90-96 grams! Thanks so much!

Excellent video, I would like to try a spare Accra i90 graphite shaft into a old tour edge iron head which had a s300 dynamic gold in it. The i90 accra has been pulled so is already ready. Haven't tested it to see if its parallel or taper. I think the s300 were taper.

I was hoping you would show an actual student/individual being swing weight tested...Meaning, how can you visually tell what the proper swing weight a student/ individual should be using?(combined with the other factors) I understand swing weight is sometimes a preference, but sometimes a student/individual doesn't really know what is best for them..I also know you touched on the subject, but the visual fitting process would have been awesome.

My stealth irons appear to have a centering stud inside the hozel so won't the brass weight prevent it from fully seating?

Thank you for your video. I have a question, I just disassembled my irons and only the 7 iron has weight inserted. Is this normal?

Great video again. I got fitted for the srixon 785 recently. I just can't hit them now. They are 20g lighter over all than my old irons. They are also 1/4" shorter. I think the overall weight is a factor even though my old irons are C9 and the new ones are D0. Any ideas?

Very informative video! Taylormade M2 irons have an area below in the hosel similar to the Wishon irons for installing weights...have you had any experience swing weighting M2 irons? What weights would you recommend installing in the hosel? Thank you.

Very interesting video. Thank you.

What do you think about pouring lead or tungsten powder down the shaft and putting a cork to block it?

Love this video! I went to a "fitting"(more of a sales pitch) at club champion and left super disappointed. I decided I will at least get an idea of what is best for me. He had me swinging d4 which I felt is way too heavy for me(I try to swing very passive/non violent). I also thought they were way too upright. Basically the swing was taking TONS of effort and I was pulling everything. Would you say learning my preferred swing weight would be a good starting point to educate myself(I have an efficient swing...7 iron 180 carry non violent feeling...feel like I'm finally ready to dial in equipment). I feel like I should be mid C at most. Quick question regarding adding weight to lighten swing weight. Do you ever add weight in different places like just below the grip or midway down the shaft? For some reason I can feel the club in that area.

trying once more to do some counterbalancing on some irons/woods- i have some 90 gram secret grips to try out so im gonna start with a iron that is about 1.5-2 inches longer so as to get a swing weight with the 90 gram grip to a d1-d-0 instead of the e-1 with a normal grip. I tried putting a secret grip on a driver years ago that was maybe 1/2 inch longer than standard but didnt have much success achieving any sort of counterbalance feel like i have with a putter that I made. Also it was not any improvement in ball striking-it was worse. I have some heavier driver heads I could try out- 210/215 ish. If I put a secret grip on a standard d-0 iron it would be around c-0/b-9 or less-so I guess I will try every scenario. Sergio Garcia use 25 gram end weights- but has heavier driver heads to offset it. I know swing weight isnt supposed to matter when counterbalancing but in my experience swing weight always matters when building a golf club. Any suggestions would be helpful-thxs again.

How do you make a existing club go from a d scale to c scale. I hit clubs on a c scale better than a club measured in the d range. Thanks

really enjoyed the video

i always seen in my swing light weight i hook the ball an heavy i slice the ball so weird just weight change the swing so much.i just got standard golf works scale its cheap an works fine for the weekend worrior loves to tinker

I had my irons cut down, if I wanted to add extensions could I? Asking because they feel a little short now. Thanks.

Hello. You never showed the way you build a club with swing weight. For example, saying we are trying to get this club to D1. Then putting in a 4gram tip weight, put club head on dry and then grip on butt end and weighing it. I was looking for the way to get swing weight before having to glue it.

Hello McGolf love the vids. Have a question for u if u don’t mind. I am going to cut 1 inch of my driver and the butt/grip end. I understand this would take off 6 swing points. What wouldbe the best way or simplest way for me swing balance the club after I cut it??? Thanks

Following addition of tip weight to bring the club to the desired swingweight...do you trim the tip or the butt end to achieve the proper frequency?

I have just changed my driver grip to a light weight grip the swing weight in now D 7 and have found it to be more controllable and more accurate, should I fit light weight grips to my taylormade m2 tour irons with the xp 95 shafts as I like the feel of a heavy head or leave well alone. Thanks

I have read that standard grip weight is 50g-52g. Is that not correct?

Quick question. I have new Titleist MB's and they have s300's in them, They're good but I get too much spin, I ended up buying s400 tour issued. I measured all the swing weight in the s300's and they're all perfectly D4. I like the D4 swing weight. I put the s400 TI in the 4 Iron and hit it and it felt heavy, I checked the swing weight and it was D7!!! I was trying to figure out why it was D7 so I measured the length, it was about half an inch longer than the s300 4 iron shaft. This begs the question. How do I find out what length I need for my s400's? I just want them standard and if I do cut them back to standard, how do I add weight to the back of my club so i can achieve the D4 swing weight? I hope you can reply soon! Thank you very much! -Christian

I need some info on counterbalancing- a few yrs back I tried to do some counterbalancing with the heavier butt weights in a driver- even made a longer driver to offset the swing weight- I tried the heavy boccari 92 gram grips on a few clubs - nothing worked- think I might give it a go again since a counterbalanced putter is simply magic. This time I’m gonna try some lighter 10-20 gram butt weights in some irons and maybe one driver- I wish I lived closer so I could come in and let you do some experimenting but if you have any suggestions id appreciate it.

Thanks for the great info. Question: How much weight difference change is there if you add additional wraps of tape to thicken the grip Under to Over sized grip? I play 130g KBS Tour X Iron shaft (stepped twice), Jumbo Golfpride CP2 Grip @ 80g (+ 2 wraps of tape), Mizuno MP-33 iron head @ 247g. I have been told differing weights by the same store that put my clubs together, May I ask for your estimation? Thanks

How would you weight a club to better feel it in your fingers

when you tip weight a graphite shaft, the tip weight could be sticking out of the shaft tip as much as 1/4", should you tip trim the shaft that 1/4" to maintain the correct tip trim length?

Well done!

What a great video, thanks for posting that.

Plz let me know when building a set of irons. The relation after- 1, Frequency Match (desired stiffness) 2, Swing Weight measured & adjusted (desired feel) 3, END result of total weight of CLUB........??????? **** What effect will the END total weight of club contribute*****

Hi Jim I had the same style s.w.machine as you I used to use all the same weights u have I also used to use 1mm ball bearings as weight pour them down the shaft ( steel ) then cork it use a drive stick ( like a giant ice pick with blunt tip ) and we would make our own lead pellets and use the same method have u ever tried it that way ?

Im a novice. I experiment with same length irons, but the weight diference from 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 irons and so is not easy. I used common clubs that is not factory manufactured. So I have to add stick on weights. Is there a chart guide availale?

Okay so I recognize you from the Wishon forum which doesn't seem to get much real use anymore compared to when Tom first started his company. A question came to my mind. If you use counterbalancing to lower swingweight that increases total weight. Doesn't that affect a players swing characteristics? Won't it tend to slow down his clubhead speed?

How do you feel about MOI matching vs. swing weight matching? I use the 565's btw - like butter when you hit them square, just wish I'd had a better fitting for shafts and swing weight.

how do you add weight to a club you just cut down let's say 1". can you just use lead powder and pour it down the shaft and regrip it.

I have a question. you said you want about 7 gram difference between each iron head. then the shafts vary in weight as well. to get your desired swing weight, the total weight of the assembled club will be all over the place. so what's the point of weight sorting the shafts and heads in order to progressively bring loner clubs lightest to shorter clubs heaviest if you have to alter weight to achieve swing weight when all is done. thanks

Hey Jim on frequency matching can you frequency match a butt trim only steel shaft or graphite for that matter? Thank you..!

excellent thanks

Question for you kind Sir: What would you say the average swing weight is on the PGA tour when it comes to wedges? More specifically, Pros using a dynamic gold tour issue s400/ 132g shaft? And lastly what do you think the highest playable swing weight is for a wedge with an s400? Thx

Thanks

Jim, why don’t you use lead and cork down the shaft to swingweight?

How do you know what the correct swing weight is for me ...?

Jim another great video - what is typically the swing weight progression ? if player x likes d2 swing weight irons all irons will be d2? or progression lighter 6i heavier pw? and what about driver 3 wood etc progression ?

Hi I'm getting fitted with Sterling one length irons in 8 iron length I have a sample 6 iron made up by a club builder The shaft is steelfiber i80 S flex and swing weight is D4 The builder has tipped it 3inch as it says on the tipping chart what would happen if he tipped it 2.5inch Also thinking about going to D3 would that affect my flight I'm hitting a little draw or straight My swing speed is 82-84mph with this club and carry is 175 yards Thanks Steve

Hi. I would like to shorten my driver by 1/2 inch. I have 3extra layers of tape under the grip. Will I need extra weight adding to the club so as not to change the sw too much. Or will it not be noticeable. Thanks

Can I replace the lead tape with some hot melt to keep my swing weight the same in my driver?

I received a comment that did not post here for some reason, and paraphrasing, that the explanation of the Sw is wrong. That is it a measurement of the moment of the club. not what is feels like when picked up. Unfortunately I would have to disagree. measuring the moment of the club and the swing weight of the club are found using different machines and gives the reading in different units (whatever a swing point could by verses a moment measurement in grams and length and time) I would agree that the SW and moment are affected by the some of the same parameters of the clubs such as length, and weight. The applications are slightly different.

It all seems no better than arbitrary and detrimental to progress. A better standard would be tested best inertia, with each club, for a standard golf ball. The fitted clubs would exactly hit that inertia.

So before building a set of clubs, you add the weight of the grips, shaft, club head, etc. How then do you take those measurements and calculate (or what do you use to calculate) what the swing weight of a club will be before building it?

Why not MOI weight?

I am sorry man . there is a lot more to this then that . If you ad weight to a club head which already hosel heavy you changing position of the sweet spot on the head face . usually sweet spot will move to words the hole and up . which can screw up the club . you have to be very careful about this things

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After 16 minutes I realized you were not going to show how to physically swingweight the club.

Swing weight isn’t about making the club heavier or lighter. It’s about balancing the club. It should have always been called “swing balance”...and not “swing weight”.

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