How to: Swirl guitar finish with Magic Marble paints

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Traq Guitars

Traq Guitars

6 жыл бұрын

Swirling a stratocaster-shaped guitar with Magic Marble paints in black/blue/silver. Clearcoated with 2k automotive clear. I'm showing the process and giving some tips on how to get it right.
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@margaretedwards1366
@margaretedwards1366 9 ай бұрын
Thanks ! That's the best video on hydrodipping a guitar that I've seen. Beautiful job, well done !
@matthiassoellner
@matthiassoellner 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done!! You did a great job! The body of the guitar looks so amazing!
@kadencooper2223
@kadencooper2223 2 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@anthonycongiano8890
@anthonycongiano8890 3 жыл бұрын
Radically well done!!! Thanks for the details!!!
@pfanni1451
@pfanni1451 2 ай бұрын
Very helpful hints and your design is killer ! Thank you !
@maxfreitas9333
@maxfreitas9333 3 жыл бұрын
Neck through! How difficult it's been. Beautiful!
@EdEddnEddyMercury
@EdEddnEddyMercury 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great. It's really simple and helpful. I did a swirl on my wah pedal by following the steps in this video and it turned out great!
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
awesome, happy to hear that! :D
@jackmeyhoff1147
@jackmeyhoff1147 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. You said all the appropriate tips for people new to this painting technique. I recently started painting guitars with the same exact paint/method. If you do this the right way, including the preparation steps, the finish, the clear coat, the buffing...you can put some masterpieces out there. Very exciting
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It is quite rewarding when you manage to pull it off, isn't in? Good luck!
@JonHowardPhotos
@JonHowardPhotos 3 жыл бұрын
Looks fantastic!
@BlueSpiritArt
@BlueSpiritArt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, very helpful! Also the guitar looked awesome 👍
@echo4862
@echo4862 3 жыл бұрын
4:33 Excalibur! Love the finish, wish i had a bunch of old guitars to try this
@weareearthguardians1417
@weareearthguardians1417 5 жыл бұрын
Nice upload!!! An cute assistant, guitar turned out beautiful👍😁
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
thanks ;)
@3l84r70
@3l84r70 4 жыл бұрын
man, super cool video the camera at the bottom of the container was gold!
@jonsmeeguitar8665
@jonsmeeguitar8665 Жыл бұрын
That looks so awesome
@dgbaker33
@dgbaker33 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!! Nice swirl and video!!
@russell1626
@russell1626 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So far this is the only video I could find that mentioned the finish
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I also had a hard time finding info about finish compatibility - that's why I had to experiment myself. Figured I'd share :)
@jmack619
@jmack619 3 жыл бұрын
@@TraqGuitars I was thinking about using 2 part epoxy. What say you.. Great job
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmack619 I use epoxy sometimes as a pore filler. Haven't found/tried anything that you could use as an actual finish. Do you have something specific in mind?
@pigjubby1
@pigjubby1 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice to clear the paint when you pull it out.
@traqq
@traqq 5 жыл бұрын
it helps if you don't want a double swirl :)
@gene3197
@gene3197 4 жыл бұрын
Great job man that guitar looks hot
@aliciat2216
@aliciat2216 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome!!! Great video too.
@sobellfanatic
@sobellfanatic Жыл бұрын
Fabulous!! I see having a go in my future!
@pepetorres8827
@pepetorres8827 8 ай бұрын
Excellent Job, is really amazing to see your work, that make us so happy as a musician. In the future i will build my guitar of dream with colors special and desing. I already know about you. Regards
@skynyrdnemoy2418
@skynyrdnemoy2418 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome color choices
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
thanks :) It took me a while to decide on the colors, but I'm very happy with the end result
@dontmesswiththedragonmaid977
@dontmesswiththedragonmaid977 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, great job
@kennethmabus381
@kennethmabus381 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
@jens1475
@jens1475 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awsome. 👍🏻
@ardixschroer7772
@ardixschroer7772 5 жыл бұрын
Such a helpful video! Thank you
@simaocarlos6592
@simaocarlos6592 2 ай бұрын
Wonderfull job man!!! 😮 Have you a type if paint and name? Thanks
@alonzovillarreal4666
@alonzovillarreal4666 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool, I’d like to try this with drum shells
@missiestricklin3364
@missiestricklin3364 Жыл бұрын
That is just exquisite!!!
@timfenech4118
@timfenech4118 7 ай бұрын
Can I ask if you used anything to "thicken" the water so the paint floats at the top? I was excited to try trhis process and when I filled a garbage can with water and was adding the paint to the water, it didn't float. There is the Magic Medium for thickening the water but according to the directions I would need to add a couple pounds of the stuff.
@freakbiker
@freakbiker 5 жыл бұрын
I'm using Magic Marble and getting bubbles in the paint after, the droplets left on the guitar seem to cause it. Do you blow off all the water with the dryer? Have you ever had these droplets bubble up the paint?
@ravenlaurendine
@ravenlaurendine Жыл бұрын
Cool. I may try that on one of my guitars...maybe.
@cyprusaikido
@cyprusaikido 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@rafaeldecarvalho1984
@rafaeldecarvalho1984 3 жыл бұрын
You'd achieved such a beautiful result with that mix of colors. Do you have any video playing this guitar?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! here's a demo video that I did: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8qZZMlq1sC4mGg.html I play it on a few other videos on the channel too ;)
@KeithFine10
@KeithFine10 5 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome
@16addam
@16addam 8 ай бұрын
Is the water temperature key? I am wondering if I have the water too hot? I noticed my brand new marbling paint was happy to sink!!!!
@loopi222
@loopi222 6 жыл бұрын
I clicked this because you had your lady holding an electric hair dryer over the water.
@JConnelly331
@JConnelly331 4 жыл бұрын
not really dangerous unless your standing in the water. :D
@holleyciggy
@holleyciggy 3 жыл бұрын
Not really dangerous even if you are standing in the water either....
@jmack619
@jmack619 3 жыл бұрын
@@holleyciggy That would be some serious multitasking!! Dangerous in Salt water !
@MattheuNevinMusic
@MattheuNevinMusic 6 жыл бұрын
What was your water temperature for the dipping process?
@BOMKubota
@BOMKubota 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and perfect result. I’ve tried with enamel paint cause we cannot get hold of marble paint over here. The problem I faced with is the paint turned into thin film on the surface. Do you know why and how to avoid that? May be you’ve have some infos, can you recommend some tips, please?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
thanks :) I have zero experience with enamels unfortunately. Did you use borax? That's the first thing that I heard needs to be done, I guess to alter the surface tension of water. If you have done that then I you can probably try playing around with paint quantity and water surface size. Also not all enamels are created equal I imagine ..
@BOMKubota
@BOMKubota 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, I used borax also. may be I've just to play around like you say. thanks anyway, cheers.
@Deepblue466
@Deepblue466 2 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty damn cool
@1980bwc
@1980bwc 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@aandc2005
@aandc2005 3 жыл бұрын
I bought some magic marble from the fishing rod place called mud hole about 2 months ago I really want to try this but I need a large (wide) container. You should try using Simtec polyester clear of that instead of a clear urethane...the polyester dries 90% the hardness of glass. also it sands and buffs out like a mirror!(use all the grits from 400 to 3000. you can skip a few like I always do) Most of the pro guitar companies use this. They also make a sealer(sanding sealer they call it) in different shades from clear to gray. One of the tricks is using a HVLP gun with a 2.0 tip or a little larger and mixing the hardener in the correct ratio(all of which and can be found on there site) but the down side is you only have about 25 mins to spray your first few coats otherwise it will harden in the gun..(I wrecked a nice devilbiss gravity feed the first time) so just get a cheap hvlp from tcp global its around 25-35.00 www.simteccoatings.com/Productlist.ivnu (get the 27x6 A18 if you do it) also at the bottom of the page is the MEKP Catalyst Rate Chart to mix up small amounts
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have equipment or place to spray with guns at the moment, so I'm stuck with whatever I can brush or spray-can on. I did a 2k finish once in the past (Dupont clear I think), indeed it's super hard and easy to sand flat and buff. I'll keep your suggestions in mind though in case I'm able to switch to spray gun at some point. Thanks!!
@ducamuk
@ducamuk 5 жыл бұрын
1:12...reminds me of a scene from Breaking Bad. Lol. Very nice. Thank you for sharing.
@EdEddnEddyMercury
@EdEddnEddyMercury 4 жыл бұрын
lol that's exactly what I was thinking
@nakon7niket
@nakon7niket 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna do it with the "Nevermind" Blue and gray colors, similar to this one
@juancantu8905
@juancantu8905 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro are you using oil base paint or water base please let me know thanks
@biobuur7577
@biobuur7577 6 жыл бұрын
By far the best video on swirl painting a guitar! You've been an enormous help in my swirl-endeavours. Thanks a lot! But I do have one question left unanswered: Did you just clear coat over the magic marble paint without sanding? I always sanded through the magic marble paint in no time on my test dummies. But I'm afraid that without sanding, my 2k clear coat won't stick. Can you advise me there? Thx a lot
@biobuur7577
@biobuur7577 6 жыл бұрын
Piotr Traczyk okay, I'll try it that way. Thanks a lot for your advise!
@JoshGoldie
@JoshGoldie 5 жыл бұрын
is this water heated or cold?
@roycefaggotter6860
@roycefaggotter6860 Жыл бұрын
Going to give this a go.
@pustoolio
@pustoolio 6 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video, was the temperatura of the water important?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Looks like it wasn't terribly important, I didn't do any tricks to get a particular temperature. Except pouring cold water IIRC. I think any reasonable "room temperature" should work fine. Might influence the speed at which you have to work a little.
@nlokey
@nlokey 3 жыл бұрын
Well I watched this video and enjoyed it, your approach to talking how you did it worked for me, it was cool. But the thing is its interesting to me because I am a drummer and have been for a ton of years, don't ask how old I am, lol okay 68, but what really also caught my attention was you actually play guitar and it seems were in the same boat kinda, I paint drums and guitars as well but never dipped like you did, which was cool, but I clicked on the other video I watched with the Brian May lead etc and really like that as well, lol so I guess this drummer will subscribe so I can see you do more it was very cool. So thanks and have a good one, maybe we should jam sometime, lol later.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man, I've been playing long before I got into building actually :) appreciate the kind words. rock on! \m/
@tritian5874
@tritian5874 Жыл бұрын
What type of paint is magic marble paint? is it enamel, is it acrylic? i can't see on their website.
@dralandc69
@dralandc69 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job giving us the underwater view. Very cool.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
had a gopro laying around and thought .. why not try a different camera angle? :)
@OkieMikester
@OkieMikester 5 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@JeremyACox
@JeremyACox 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this video. I have been having trouble with the paint drying as you described. Any other advice on extending cure time?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
not really .. things I found important are 1. use fresh paints and 2. go fast :) You might have some luck experimenting with temperature and humidity, but I haven't done any tests that would allow me to say what is better. Logically colder water/colder temperature should help ...
@jmanuelzapata8928
@jmanuelzapata8928 5 жыл бұрын
I thinks this is the best video that i've found so fat about the topic. All of them are just people dipping the guitar in and not a single explanation of what is happening or what possible problems you may face during the process. Well done and thank you!
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
thanks man, it was exactly my intention to share the lessons I learned after a few (mostly failed) attempts :)
@seanchapman7964
@seanchapman7964 4 жыл бұрын
Jus got a start kit for Christmas, gonna give this style a shot. Great video, just a few questions. What kind of primer did you use on the guitar and did you sand the acryllic paint at all or just the clear coat? Overall great video and awesome paint job.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! the primer was standard automotive primer from a home improvement store. I did sand that, but then no sanding of the color coat and no sanding of the swirl - only level sanding of the clearcoat layers. I might have scuffed some spots lightly before the clear, the swirl paint leaves quite a bit of texture behind, but on the other hand it's super-thin and you'll go through almost immediately if you touch it with sandpaper..
@marvinduschek7338
@marvinduschek7338 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video! Gonna try this next week :) one question though: Would I have to sand the guitar first or coat it in any way before dipping it into the water? Or can I just dip it in with the original finish my guitar has?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
That depends a bit on what kind of finish is there now. Remember that the swirl can be a little transparent in places - that's why I used silver as a base here, because it works with the other colors. (no sanding after the color coat and before dipping). If swirling over an existing finish I'd probably sand the finish a little to have the swirl paint adhere better - not trying to sand it off, but just to make the original clearcoat matte. Haven't tried doing it like this myself though.. :)
@thesingingguitar8453
@thesingingguitar8453 11 ай бұрын
Hello, what kind of paint is that?
@UzbekistanienBOY
@UzbekistanienBOY 6 жыл бұрын
Świetne video! Przymierzam się do "marmurkowania" od dłuższego czasu, ale po tym filmie zrobię to pojutrze :) Pozdrawiam!
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
dzięki! do dzieła! :D
@bogeholdtguitars
@bogeholdtguitars 3 ай бұрын
How much paint did you use
@emersonsilva2546
@emersonsilva2546 3 жыл бұрын
Que tinta vc usa para fazer essa pintura? ?
@martinalejandrop
@martinalejandrop 2 жыл бұрын
Hola cuál sería el secreto para poder hacer ese tipo de trabajo? Probé con pintura acrílica, el agua a cierta temperatura. Y nunca queda así la pintura. Se va al fondo. Se usa alguna en especial?
@garlicdawg
@garlicdawg 4 жыл бұрын
cool info...thnx for sharing......so does the water damage the guitar/wood... like as swelling or the neck bending later....?
@traqq
@traqq 4 жыл бұрын
it's fine, though there is an important detail here. Basically, it's not like the guitar stays submerged for a long time, so doesn't really get wet. The body had primer on it and I think the neck had something too, so they were both essentially waterproof. BUT. You have to watch any holes - the water will get in there, stay there and swell the wood. I held off drilling most holes until after the swirl job (pickguard screws, strap buttons etc). The only thing I drilled earlier was the bridge holes - those I plugged, I think with wax, to keep them sealed. I think I forgot to mention all this in the video :/
@hectoralers84
@hectoralers84 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!!
@jodohead
@jodohead 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@damiand6083
@damiand6083 4 жыл бұрын
interesting what you said about using old paint. i think thats what they sell in my country because even the bottles look different and mine seem to dry as soon as they hit the water, wasted about $100 on paints so far because its expensive too a few were even dried out when they got to me. so thinking that must be it. tried putting them in the fridge and water from the fridge and even doing something small is impossible. might have to try the borax/enamel method but that looks easier and its a nice even swirl.wish i could my paint to flow like that.
@traqq
@traqq 4 жыл бұрын
I never tried the borax method, but people do get very good results with it. If even small pieces are impossible to do then it's definitely something with the paint. It sometimes dries a bit fast, but for ~smartphone-sized objects there shouldn't be any issue at all.
@josemauriciovaldezalas1192
@josemauriciovaldezalas1192 2 ай бұрын
Excellent 👍
@scottishbawbag315
@scottishbawbag315 4 ай бұрын
Did u use borax, also what was water temp.
@petronilocalinawan131
@petronilocalinawan131 Жыл бұрын
Very very nice
@a1930ford
@a1930ford 5 жыл бұрын
The bottle of paint used seemed to be an issue with them pouring out so slowly. Any remedy to this or is it not really a big issue? Would putting the paint into a condiment bottle,like a catsup or mustard container resolve this issue? Beauty supply stores have even smaller bottles with small tips on them that may work for a better or easier pour of the paint onto the water surface. If time is critical, then a slow pour from the bottles seems like would be a real handicap. Thanks for posting the video,. It is super interesting to view. I would have thought that you would have made some type of holder that can be attached to the guitar body so that you didn't have to coat the fretboard, as well when using it to hold onto the guitar as you dip it. A typical guitar body is actually fairly heavy to hold onto with just the neck as the source of a handle, I bet.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the comments. I was too lazy to fumble with replacing the stock bottles, it wasn't too bad with them, though as you say, the flow could probably be optimized. As for the guitar, the neck here is glued to (actually - into) the body, so dipping the neck was the only way to go. With a bolt-on guitar I'd indeed screw a piece of wood in place of the neck and use that as a holder. Funnily enough, I'd say not the weight of the guitar body was an issue, but rather the buoyant force that was trying to push it out of the water when submerged :)
@marklee3317
@marklee3317 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying this but whenever I do, some of the paint doesn't stick and the primer is visible. Am I not using enough paint?
@luthieriadobranco8644
@luthieriadobranco8644 Жыл бұрын
great work !!! I'm a luthier and I try to swirl or marbeling on guitars, I bought the pebeo marbeling paints, and I got a formula ready for the paints to float easily, but when I apply the paint or background on the guitar and do the dip, the designs run and don't stick to the piece ! I've been trying for almost a year, please what base paint should I use to make the swirl stick to the guitar? thank you very much
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars Жыл бұрын
hmm that's odd actually, I never had the paint run, even when testing on bare wood or plastic. They tend to stick very well to most surfaces. I do use a solid color primer to have a perfectly flat surface, I use acrylic (I think) automotive primers from the supermarket, nothing fancy. Have you tested on things like (clean) plastic? If it doesn't stick, I'd think there's something wrong with the paint that you're using..
@chika933
@chika933 Жыл бұрын
Cool video and good job. And what kind of varnish should be used to cover such paints?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars Жыл бұрын
It depends on the chemical compatilibity of the varnish with the swirl paints. For example when I tried nitro I got some crackling, but nitro over a "blocking coat" of shellac worked. I'm afraid the only good answer I have is "test on a scrap piece of wood"..
@chika933
@chika933 Жыл бұрын
@@TraqGuitars thanks
@scottmatthews9924
@scottmatthews9924 4 жыл бұрын
I want to hydro dip my Ibanez Jem. The colors I want to use is blue, white and black. The guitar is white. I want the base color to be white. Should I sand guitar with 220 sandpaper then primer guitar white then hydro dip with the magic marble paint. BTW. Your guitar hydro dip is the best one I’ve seen so far!!!
@traqq
@traqq 4 жыл бұрын
thanks! You have a few options for the JEM - Ideally you should probably try to get rid of the factory paint, but that can be a PITA, they're usually very hard. You'd need a heat gun and/or some chemicals. On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if just sanding the clearcoat evenly (220 should be fine) would get the MM paints to stick. But your idea is probably the best compromise - sand the clear, shoot white primer over that, and swirl.
@scottmatthews9924
@scottmatthews9924 4 жыл бұрын
Do u need a heater? I have seen videos that do both. Guitar looks sick!!!!!! I want to do this to my Ibanez!
@traqq
@traqq 4 жыл бұрын
hmm a heater to heat up what? the water? I had everything at room temperature all the time, no need for extra heat. Give it a try, it's great fun!
@davejennings6570
@davejennings6570 2 жыл бұрын
When you say you put on a coat of shellac did you brush or spray that on and what product did you use..
@traqq
@traqq 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't a pre-made shellac, I dissolved shellac flakes in alcohol myself (bough them from some luthier supply online shop). I sprayed it using a can that I can fill with liquid then compress the air using a car/bike pump. This wasn't the best solution since the atomization was poor and I got crazy orange peel in the shellac layer that I then had to work around ... Maybe a preval sprayer would have worked better
@sebastienlefevre276
@sebastienlefevre276 6 жыл бұрын
It's a wonderful job ! I'll do it on me Telecaster Thinline. However, what kind of clearcoat did you use: nitrocellulose or polyuréthane ? Thanks !
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
thanks :) if it's a thinline with an f-hole I'd be careful, the water is going to flow into the chamber, potentially creating a mess. Concerning clearcoat - my experiments show that nitro reacts with the magic marble paints in some way. Can dissolve or crackle. I used nitro once but whith a barrier coat of shellac in between. Here I used 2k clear from a spray can, that's actually acrylic. Polyurethane should also work but I'd test on a small scrap piece first.
@sebastienlefevre276
@sebastienlefevre276 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I will then build a "simple" Telecaster rather than a Thinline. I love this swirl effect above all. Concerning the clearcoat, i'll try the poly. I'll tell you if it worked ! A last question: when you take the guitar out of the water, did you have bubbles on it ? If it was the case, what did you do to remove them ?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
great, do let me know how it turned out! Re bubbles - if the paint is fresh there is little to no bubbles or the paint gunking-up in places. I don't think I had any, when it dries it anyhow flattens out mostly. A word of warning however - you'll have to have quite a bit of build with the clearcoat because "flattens out" doesn't really mean clearcoat-quality flat. When you go to levelling the clearcoat you'll see a lot of unevenness from the texture in the swirl. I'd probably level one of the coats completely, sanding through in the high spots, such that the subsequent coats go on a really flat surface. It will be up to you to play around with this :)
@dunkinhines7212
@dunkinhines7212 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to prime the guitar first? Any kind of wood primer? Looks great!
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
yea, in general it works best if you have a solid color base (primer -> sand flat -> shoot color -> swirl) because: 1. the swirl will not always cover 100% so you could have some wood showing through and 2. if the surface is not perfectly flat you'll run into issues when trying to level and polish the subsequent clearcoat
@spontinifrankrobert4065
@spontinifrankrobert4065 5 жыл бұрын
HY. Great job! could I ask what is in the water? tap water, nommineral water? any extra add. For the colors, do you suggest a special kind of color (resin, car color ).. any special company you trust in to use their range of colors? thanx a lot.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
I used the "magic marble" brand paints - those work with ordinary tap water :)
@spontinifrankrobert4065
@spontinifrankrobert4065 5 жыл бұрын
thanx a lot. I will try!
@jnicholson
@jnicholson 4 жыл бұрын
Nice finish! How much/many bottles of paint did you end up using? I believe those are 20 ml bottles?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
yes, they're 20ml. I think one would be enough for the whole guitar, except you need a few colors :) in other words - if you're getting several colors, one bottle of each will be enough for sure.
@DewieStewart
@DewieStewart 27 күн бұрын
What paint did you use for the chrome color? I really want to make sure the paints are compatible with that so I don't get any bad results. Thanks!
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 21 күн бұрын
I haven't really had problems with putting Magic Marble over stuff. Here the silver is typical hardware store acrylic automotive paint. Compatibility can be an issue once you go to covering the swirl with clearcoat. You definitely need to do some tests on scrap for that
@m0nk3ym0p3d
@m0nk3ym0p3d 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid - did you use borax in the water for this? Nearly all of the otherones I have seen add borax for the surface tension.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
thanks :) you don't need borax with magic marble paints. A lot of people use enamels and in that case - yes, you need to add borax.
@toxicrobocop
@toxicrobocop 4 жыл бұрын
Type of paint and primer do you use thanks Love the vid
@traqq
@traqq 4 жыл бұрын
I used automotive aerosol paint (I presume acrylic) for both primer and color underneath the swirl
@MMMUpdates
@MMMUpdates 2 жыл бұрын
I tried My first Hydro dip on old Peavey Foundation Bass. Gray base coat. Used Majic Marble paints and, well needless to say, Back to the drawing board. Didn't get full coverage and the magic marble bubbled. Any suggestions? Did bubbling occur due to water temp? Rain water,... should not have been a bigg issue.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 2 жыл бұрын
hmm the paint does create a slightly uneven surface sometimes, especially if it's a bit old. But I don't think I've ever seen something I'd call "bubbles". They formed already on the water surface? I don't expect any chemical incompatibility at this stage, this can be a pain when clearcoating (some lacquers cause the magic marble to wrinkle and crack), but not during the dipping
@codyjewell1460
@codyjewell1460 5 жыл бұрын
So do you seal the cavities and all the holes in the guitar prior or do you just let it get waterlogged
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
good point. I try to seal what I can, the cavities are painted with primer and I try to make a little holes in the guitar as possible before dipping. Those that I do make I try to seal with wax to keep water from going in
@user-hp1on9vd3d
@user-hp1on9vd3d 6 жыл бұрын
سؤال هذا الاصباغ زيتي ام دهني ام مائي
@arrebentacorda6510
@arrebentacorda6510 6 жыл бұрын
ficou linda!
@53372ggg
@53372ggg 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, first thing thank you so much for the video! I tried to do it myself at home but without success ... The colors did not look over the water properly ... (I used: Americana Gloss Enamels Calypso Blue) Did you use anything in the water or the colors are not good?
@traqq
@traqq 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! If you use enamels you need to add borax to the water. Or so I've heard - I never tried that method myself. But they won't work with just water. Magic marbles do, but that's a different kind of paint from enamel.
@53372ggg
@53372ggg 3 жыл бұрын
@@traqq tnx bro 🤙
@AnthonyEssaye
@AnthonyEssaye 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, i wanted to ask if you used any wood primer before painting this ?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
yes, you need some sort of level surface, in the past I just used gray (automotive acrylic or nitro) primer that I sanded around P600, this time I shot a base coat of silver and put the swirl on top of that (no sanding of the silver!)
@dgm199
@dgm199 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use an abrasive on the swirl before clear coating so it will adhere or can you spray clear straight onto the swirl?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 4 жыл бұрын
I had zero problems getting the clear to adhere, the only thing is the swirl sometimes has some texture and you have to somehow get rid of it for the clear coat to be flat. The swirl layer is super thin though, touching that with any abrasive is risking sand-through. So the best way I found is to first shoot just a little clear, level that (possibly going through to the color in places) and then build the clearcoat. But I can't say I have a good process for clearcoating down.
@joshcrawford7965
@joshcrawford7965 6 жыл бұрын
So, was painting the guitar silver before you dipped it necessary, or could you dip it without priming it?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
I would at least prime it and sand the primer level. Here I also sprayed a coat of silver on (the primer was grey), the reason being that Magic Marble paints don't give me 100% opaque coverage. And since silver is part of the swirl, if some of the paints fade out to silver it doesn't look bad. As a bonus, the slightly-translucent blue becomes blue metallic :)
@tgstk2
@tgstk2 6 жыл бұрын
awesome video!!! how long did you let it dry before doing something?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
thanks! I think I left it alone for 3 days or so, to be on the safe side. The swirl paint is touch-dry after an hour from what I recall.
@tgstk2
@tgstk2 6 жыл бұрын
awesome going to give it a try very very soon. bought the paint and all now i just need to prepare the guitar. i'm advised to keep on the orginal coating and such as the marple magic sticks to everything :)
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
It should stick .. some light sanding of the existing coat wouldn't probably hurt, but you might be able to dip the body as-is. No experience with that though. Good luck!
@sgh17i
@sgh17i 5 жыл бұрын
You said these colors aren’t completely opaque but I’m wanting a black/pink swirl. should I primer black? I thought white so that the pink would be more vibrant but I don’t want to see any of the white really with the end result.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
different colors cover differently, I don't think I ever tried pink. In general the colors will just slowly fade, so the pink might grow whiter and the black can go to light gray.. Gray primer might be a good compromise actually. It does depend on your technique, you might end up getting perfect coverage, I got a pretty good result with the strat, in the past I had to dip twice from both sides... Anyway, the standard advice works: prime something smaller and dip that and see what comes out :)
@brain21
@brain21 6 жыл бұрын
Did you get the multi-scale bolt on neck off of another guitar, or does someone sell them aftermarket?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
the neck doesn't bolt on.. look closely :) it's a neck-though (almost). I didn't buy the neck, I built it. You can see pictures from the build on my facebook page for example :) I don't think I saw multiscale necks being offered standalone for sale..
@joeeng577
@joeeng577 5 жыл бұрын
I have experimented with this with good and bad results. Do you have recommendations for water temp/air temp/humidity?
@knightyyz
@knightyyz 4 жыл бұрын
cold water
@nicknewell4083
@nicknewell4083 3 жыл бұрын
Water needs to b 80 degrees
@4stringsloneliness
@4stringsloneliness 9 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@thesultanmerchant
@thesultanmerchant 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use acrylic paint to achieve the same pattern effects?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Yes - the "other" method of doing this (that I know of) involves altering the surface tension of the water using borax and painting with acrylic enamels. I haven't tried that myself.
@RJDCR
@RJDCR 6 жыл бұрын
kool , she came out great
@randhawas68
@randhawas68 3 жыл бұрын
Can we use marbu marbel paint. Magic isn't available in my country.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
I never tried buy if I were you I'd buy some Marabu and check. I suspect it's the same thing or very similar
@luthiermello
@luthiermello 6 жыл бұрын
Qual ė a tinta que você utiliza? Pode me informar onde comprar ? Eu sou do Brasil, sou Luthier meu nome é Robson Mello. Agradeço se puder me ajudar, obrigado.
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 6 жыл бұрын
Oi. Tentando google translate para responder em português :) A pintura chama-se "Magic Marble". Não tenho certeza se está disponível no Brasil, mas deveria ser, em lojas de artigos de arte ou similares .. boa sorte!
@mitchpage7022
@mitchpage7022 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I need some help I am using enamel oil based paint but the paint is not spreading nicely around the surface like it does in this video when I add the paint to the water. It's all thick and glumpy and doesn't spread, I am using basic tap water what am I doing wrong? Would appreciate some help
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars 5 жыл бұрын
hey! for some reason people using enamels are usually adding borax to the water. here I'm using "magic marble" paints, these work with tap water, enamels I think don't
@betorodrigues3995
@betorodrigues3995 Жыл бұрын
What product do you put in the water so the paint doesn't mix?
@TraqGuitars
@TraqGuitars Жыл бұрын
with these "magic marble" paints you don't need to add anything. They work with ordinary tap water
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