How to Tell When Mushroom is Ready to Fruit

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4 жыл бұрын

How can you tell that your mushrooms are ready to fruit? Is it time to cut a hole in the substrate myco bag and start fresh air exchange (FAE)? It can sometimes be difficult to tell when mycelium has fully colonized a bulk subtrate and is ready to start fruiting and produce edible mushrooms! Thes golden oysters were grown via liquid culture, grown on millet grain that was sterilized in an Instant Pot. The bulk substrate of straw was also pasteurized in an Instant Pot. And in today's video we will decide what to look for red flags and signs that you are ready to fruit.
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@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

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@12deathguard 3 жыл бұрын

Draw with marker around the uncolonized material and wait a day to see if it's grown into it.

@playegg 3 жыл бұрын

oooh thats smart

@wildedibles819 4 жыл бұрын

Im excited about this cant wait to see how it works

@jerseyjoe8637 5 ай бұрын

Very informative, thank you. I like how clear and concise your explanation is.

@marior.8893 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video, as per usual! Thanks for putting out informative, good information. 🙏

@ClownWhisper Жыл бұрын

I hope you learned that this was bad information in the past two years after you posted this it's not good information the fact that he has his bag completely rolled up and taped down is why he has fear spots

@TheKellisunshyne 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I have never had the theory of how to know where to cut the substrate bag explained so well!!! Thank you for taking the time to do this video. I'm going to go check out some more of your videos.

@ariannaclearday 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually a grain spawn bag. It's not substrate. He keeps calling it that, but it's a bag of mostly colonized grain spawn.

@euanstirling1866 Жыл бұрын

@@ariannacleardaystraw?

@Derp_Gravy 11 ай бұрын

Good tips for beginners, solid!

@seancline8130 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Your videos are very helpful to me.

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad! Happy to share. :)

@eliuq4157 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Good to know oxygen initiates the fruiting process, always wait until the grain is fully inoculated with spawn and once the block gets solid break it to help it reform

@TheIncredibleFlyingSausage 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Very helpful, you're a star :)

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. :)

@thefattening1307 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative thanks

@jasonjohnson2813 3 жыл бұрын

I used a saltwater bath (K2SO4) to maintain humidity in my spawning chambers

@huntervargo4237 4 жыл бұрын

Hope it turns out great!!

@DAVID-ho4xh 3 жыл бұрын

Hey did you ever post about you humidity some v/s free air exchange?

@akashicrecord2120 2 жыл бұрын

Usually when it doesn’t colonize certain spots while aggressively colonizes other areas like this; it’s because it is contaminated and it is running away from that contamination. There’s lots of metabolites in that bag. Very likely bacterial contamination and those brainy blobs were likely overlay caused by the fungus Mycogone Sp.

@ClownWhisper Жыл бұрын

That is not necessarily so if there is a bear spot and it just stays bare then it's not contaminated contamination will always grow something weather it's trichoderma or something even more insidious it will discolor at the very least. The reason why this guy's got these gigantic bear spots because he doesn't know what he's doing. He's one of these people that start a hobby immediately go to KZfaq and create a video not knowing what he's doing. I hate to be harsh but it's true look at how he's got his bag completely taped down there's absolutely no filtered air going into that bag that's why there's bare spots because that mycelium is choking it's only growing using the air that was available when the bag was put together. If he had that bag set up like you're supposed to puffed up with the filter patch open expose with nothing blocking it I'm sure that bag would be completely colonized

@Spe3D3m0n Жыл бұрын

@@ClownWhisper you're correct. I spent awhile learning how to get proper air exchange the hard way.

@naefaust581 3 жыл бұрын

Hello how long should it take for popcorn to colonize?

@tymiller9714 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@thomasreto2997 3 жыл бұрын

So I have also used an electric insta pot and now, on my very first grow of....oysters, have those fuzzy white and yellow clumps coming out of surface. It smells good....like mushrooms. I have been misting, fanning, and increasing light with small led grow lights. Hopefully we see some fruit soon🍄🌈😃🤙

@do_not_rotateyour_phone3957 4 жыл бұрын

Good day sir! Just subscribed. You have a very informative video here.. what is the proper way to water a mushroom fruiting bag that is already opened?

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

You should need to water it if the substrate was the proper level of moisture. But if you need to up the humidity, Use a fine misting spray and spray into the bag, but not directly on the substrate.

@do_not_rotateyour_phone3957 4 жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo Thankyou

@aofferle1918 2 жыл бұрын

love the insta pot tech!

@punkyroo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! It's worked for all aspect of mushroom production! Soon I'll be trying to serialize bulk substrate in a myco bag...

@aofferle1918 2 жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo cant wait!

@warrenjackson7459 3 жыл бұрын

Hi my mushrooms started to fruit 3 days ago but the weather is like 32 degrees does that mean they died now or

@landzzr 2 жыл бұрын

Thank

@SamuraiJACsr 2 жыл бұрын

Neat.

@belladingdong3396 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Thank you. Quick question: Can you fruit a block that isn't fully colonized, if the bottom layer is already popcorning? I predict that would affect initial yield, but with the benefit of an earlier harvest. I'm new to this!

@professored7169 3 жыл бұрын

Ya but you can introduce contams to the uncolonized area, that's why people wait for it to fully colonize is because the mycelium will block contams from the substrate, I'm not sure if will affect future flushes tho, some people will flip the block and cut a new hole to get a second flush if growing from the bag, but if you s2b then you can pick off the uncolonized part and it wont affect that much

@sheeeitmayn4384 2 жыл бұрын

You risk contamination if your spawn isn't fully colonized.

@jasonjanes3256 Жыл бұрын

It's a bit tight in there - needs a bit of air exchange - NOT a huge problem, but move the bag around and let air move around, it will take off

@andredelbos7425 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, this was very helpful. I wonder if the uncolonized section was a result of poor gas exchange in that one section of the bag?

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

Possibly! There are a number of reasons the mycelium didnt grow there. I wish I could ask them why?!

@ThahnG413 3 жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo hey I don't know the specifics of how you pasteurized the straw with heat but I reccomend Temps as low as 140 to 160 to keep beneficial bacteria alive to help the oyster mushroom in its growth

@transgenderific1507 3 жыл бұрын

More likely wet and excretion area of bag....that is why we break up bags and rotate positions to prevent pockets of dead area

@bubblerings 2 жыл бұрын

Was hoping you have a link here or in Description to see what happened with this bag... -Cheers!

@punkyroo 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribe to my channel and you will see lots of fruiting mushroom videos. :)

@hvacker4194 4 жыл бұрын

Just a ? about temperature beginning and during fruiting and have you ever had spawn stall out and seem to be not responding? Thanks for your videos.

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

Fruiting is better in cooler temperatures. In fact, temperature drop and increased fresh air is what can trigger a mushroom to fruit! If it's stalled, look up the preferred conditions for the mushrooms you are growing and adjust accordingly.

@hvacker4194 4 жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo Thanks.

@jasonjanes3256 Жыл бұрын

Yes, do NOT change the temperatures too quickly - I spawn at 74/75 degrees and fruit at 70/71 respectively

@timothyjames4195 Жыл бұрын

Can't get her cakes to pin. Help!!

@wizardofgreen 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering, it looks like there are are light brown spots on the myc... what is that? it just happed to my tub on day 10 of colonization and its my first one. I hope its ok

@punkyroo 2 жыл бұрын

Mushrooms produce a light brown / yellow metabolic waste product. If the mycelium is otherwise looking healthy, then its likely just "Mushroom pee"

@zachlee805 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice video. I have a bulk substrate bag filled with grain spawn but some of the juice from the grains got squished out and now theirs a puddle of grain juice in my bag. Im about t 70% colonized and the mycelium looks like its getting thicker around the bag, the juice puddle is not colonizing. should I cut the bag? going on month 2.

@kicknadeadcat 3 жыл бұрын

Have the same problem, wet at the bottom. I turned my bag upside down. Waiting now for results.

@LucaMuntz 2 жыл бұрын

Do you guys wait till pinning before fruiting conditions?

@punkyroo 2 жыл бұрын

Generally, yes.

@Holypikemanz 4 жыл бұрын

how do the mycelium breath in your bag? How wet do you want the substrate, in a bag (1), or in a plastic container (2).

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

The myco bags have a small filter patch for air exchange... but mycelium growth requires very little fresh air. In fact, too much will trigger fruiting. In either case, the substrate should be thoroughly moist. Not dripping wet.

@boxingfanazM.O.B 4 жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo I have a all in one grow bag and the spores have not colonized the whole block yet nor do I believe it will. That being said, the top is completely white and one side of the block is about 70% white but the other side is only about 30% but it's been over 20 days. Is it safe to start fruiting them ? Someone told me that mold can grow when the block is no fully white? Any advice? Thank you

@jasonjanes3256 Жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo that's right - that bag was a bit too wet - needed to be broken up and shared with the rest of that bag

@jamesmiller4195 2 жыл бұрын

Just got to be patient YOU WILL JUST KNOW when it's ready, listen to the little voice in your head :)

@diszolvebeats-7169 4 жыл бұрын

What is the process to start fruiting I have fully colonized grain bags

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

Getting the bags in a cooler location and making sure they have lots of fresh air. Cut the bags in a couple of places. The mycelium will sense the holes in the bag (where there is lots of fresh air) and begin producing pins that will eventually grow fruits.

@12deathguard 3 жыл бұрын

You're spawning mushrooms straight out of the grain bag? I think most people would take that grain and add it to some substrate. Like a monotub situation.

@jasonlarsen4945 3 жыл бұрын

If you have long mushroom bags, about double the substrate in the one in the video, and they are about 50% colonized, on one end, and still spreading toward the uncolonized end, but the colonized end is looking like it's ready to fruit, can you cut holes and start fruiting. Or do you have to wait until the whole block is mostly colonized?

@ashsherman 3 жыл бұрын

From what i know, if you see mushrooms starting to grow, start fruiting. If u gotta, just seperate the parts that just would not colonize. I run into this issue with grain jars over bags, but much of the time when i did still use glass, i would just toss what the mycelium had zero interest in eating . It made me think something was wrong with the area it wouldnt go in. BAGS ARE FAR better to me as it's so much easier to evenly mix up. Grain to grain is much harder (i dont have a laminar flow hood or a sealer so i must cut the bag to use grain or AGAR and that is risky but not impossible)

@aquaticspasticp5024 6 ай бұрын

Why not just break and shake, if It works for other techniques then it'll work surely?

@CynaRed 4 жыл бұрын

I had a spot like that on two of my grain jars, I noticed it was where I had my sticky notes attached with my notes. Removed them and it filled it within a few days! So strange!!! I’m trying to grow golden oysters in a five gallon bucket , I’m using shavings instead of straw. First time growing mushrooms but I’m hopeful

@punkyroo 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! I am excited for you. :D

@doublew030 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a theory or figure out why it grew after you removed the sticky note? Also, how did your grow come out?

@blue-flamephoenixrising2398 4 жыл бұрын

too many wringles in the bag and too much air pockets in the bag....the mycellium is bolting....hagd....

@mikekrodose123 2 жыл бұрын

I am on my first few all in 1 grow bags and am not sure it my bags are ready to fruit. I see little white guys I’m not sure what’s going on

@punkyroo 2 жыл бұрын

If you see little pins developing, then it's definitely happening!!!

@mikekrodose123 2 жыл бұрын

@@punkyroo we screwed up. Molded both bags

@jasonjanes3256 Жыл бұрын

@@mikekrodose123 A bit of Hydrogen Peroxide in the spray bottle and a few drops of Oregano Spirit in the sprayer - BAM! - Anti-mold spray - Cheers now mate

@sheeeitmayn4384 2 жыл бұрын

All my grows have been sterilized by instapots ;) don't be afraid of 12psi, just use longer times. Also, don't let all the shroomery snobs tell you you can't use an electric PC! They are usually way too uptight for their own good ovwr there.

@spe.z.artist 2 жыл бұрын

How long do you keep it in the instapot?

@punkyroo 2 жыл бұрын

20 to 30 minutes. I have a whole series about using an Instant Pot. Here is episode #1: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jc2EgdCI3cq-cWQ.html&ab_channel=PunkyRooster

@sheeeitmayn4384 2 жыл бұрын

@@spe.z.artist it honestly greatly depends on the grains being sterilized. At 12 psi say for rye grain, I wouldn't do anything under 2 hours. For whole brown rice I'd do 90 minutes, birdseed for 2 hours, popcorn 2 hours, ect.

@caydenwood3944 3 жыл бұрын

dawg i thought that was spaghetti

@minguyen-rl7sn Жыл бұрын

4:19

@minguyen-rl7sn Жыл бұрын

Why do people call it a pin? It looks nothing like a pin. Its a baby mushroom.

@jasonjanes3256 Жыл бұрын

Some look at Pinning on the sides of the substrate as negative - as the mushroom is not being channeled "up" but yes, there little fruits testing expansion potential - So don't let light on the sides too much - but still keep the light indirect - how ? black bottom or black tray to block the light and keeping moisture high 85% relative - meaning if the temperature changes, so does the humidity - so keep temps balanced just a few degrees lower during fruiting is fine, that way you can propagate quickly without needing foggers ect . . .