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How to Trade in a Car you Owe Money on or is NOT Paid Off (Former Dealer Explains)

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Negotiation Guides

Negotiation Guides

Күн бұрын

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@pencraftsmanship
@pencraftsmanship 3 жыл бұрын
Vroom is offering me several thousand more than the dealership. Could I use that at the dealership to see if they will meet it?
@negotiationguides
@negotiationguides 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can certainly ask for a match and if not a check to pay vroom any difference owed
@erikceniceros119
@erikceniceros119 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kryptic1046 so its kind of like I sell my car to dealership B with the help of their money so I can use the total money to buy a vehicle back at dealer A the one that gave me a check?
@Kryptic1046
@Kryptic1046 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikceniceros119 - Correct.
@benjaminbenson8914
@benjaminbenson8914 2 жыл бұрын
@@negotiationguides hey Ari I live in Massachusetts Haverhill Mass.. I have a 2019 Toyota Camry SE nightshade edition.. I leased it my lease is up in July I owe 15 g's and change on it I got a quote from CarMax they offered me $20,800 for it... So I got about five grand of positive equity, my question is I wanted to get in to like an affordable Lexus or even that Kia K5 GT... Even with putting four grand down it seems like my car payments are still going to skyrocket I only play two 10 a month for my 2019 Toyota Camry and they tried to rape me and make my payments 3:30 something and I talked them all the way down.... I just want to get into something a little sportier and more bells and whistles with three to four grand down and keep my payments in the 200s at least is this feasible?
@TOXIC-jq3ry
@TOXIC-jq3ry Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbenson8914 just go to the dealer and ask. Or go directly to the bank or union and ask for the loan and negotiate the payments directly with them. Payments are based on your credit, the amount your asking for, and your history with debt and paying it. A down payment of a few grand isn't really going to make much of a difference.
@victoriarosado7705
@victoriarosado7705 3 жыл бұрын
I love that. “ some people don’t have a choice” The accuracy is 100%
@Operation3Sixty
@Operation3Sixty 6 ай бұрын
Yea they do. Don't trade your car in
@tingtaiji
@tingtaiji 6 ай бұрын
No. Im in that position. Just got a car 4 months ago been in the shop 3 times. It’s still under warranty so it’s getting fixed and not quite hit my state’s requirements for lemon law. Meanwhile, the car has now severely depreciated and I have negative equity on a crap car.
@icryglitter444
@icryglitter444 3 ай бұрын
​@@tingtaijiyep I agree. I still have 10,000 and probably more due to interests but I've only had it for a year and I will have spend about 2,000 in repairs. I have a 2012 Chevy Cruze and I don't want it anymore lmao
@kellyshirley7356
@kellyshirley7356 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I am one of those people. I was screwed at a car dealership because I was uneducated and ignorant. I have already dished out thousands fixing this “new” car and something else that costs $3k to fix just messed up. I can’t do it anymore. I HAVE TO GET A NEW CAR. Thank you so much.
@faznout
@faznout Жыл бұрын
Just to simplify everything it all has to do with having a healthy down payment. In reality car dealers could really care less what you owe on the vehicle. The less you owe the better it is for you like anything under $8,000. Plus it also depending on the value of the vehicle, what you owe, and your credit and income all makes a difference in how much they'll ask for down. But there have been people who have traded in cars where they owe $20,000 but they paid 8,000 or more down on the new car. But if you owe $20,000 and say you only have $1,000 down the deal won't happen. And it doesn't matter how nice your $20,000 car is. It also has to do with the value of the vehicle you're trying to get. If you want a $10,000 car but you owe $20,000 on your current vehicle no bank will finance that because you'll be so upside down the price of your new vehicle will be way more than what it's actually worth.
@Billyy.c_
@Billyy.c_ Жыл бұрын
This is a bad example
@Sabrinajeromej
@Sabrinajeromej Жыл бұрын
Yup…just got a charger..had it for About 2 yrs…wanted to trade for a challenger and they wanted 10k down
@StevenNeidlein
@StevenNeidlein 11 ай бұрын
Great advice
@faznout
@faznout 11 ай бұрын
@@Billyy.c_ - How is it a bad example?
@BillyBob-jb3yy
@BillyBob-jb3yy 7 ай бұрын
Car dealership the biggest rip off
@Hats1976
@Hats1976 Жыл бұрын
Rebates, rebates, rebates. Look for a vehicle that has a lot of money in rebates and have a healthy down payment. A good interest too, and you'll come out pretty good.
@dizboi607
@dizboi607 Жыл бұрын
This is really 100% well explained......this is how everyone should have done their content straight to the point ❤
@thedeadzonemaniac5
@thedeadzonemaniac5 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 ford edge sel that my wife and I are trying to trade in. We’ve been to several dealerships and none will finance the trade because of our high upside down balance of 5k, they want us to pay it off. Also dealership offered 15k for my car where as car max appraised it for 17. Definitely know your cars worth
@jodyreynolds8545
@jodyreynolds8545 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this info.😊
@Straw_hat_htx
@Straw_hat_htx 2 ай бұрын
Do they want you to pay the 5k upfront? I’m in the same situation but I’m only looking to sell
@911Estyle
@911Estyle 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds exhausting going back and forward. It already takes for ever to get approved and get everything going. Specially when you don't have much free time.
@louisandrews8234
@louisandrews8234 7 ай бұрын
This was the most helpful trading information on negative equity. I found so far online.!
@zackthompson6286
@zackthompson6286 2 жыл бұрын
im going to use this advice... I'm going to turn my bmw into a porche through car max and idk the buyers yet but im On my way!.
@backatbragg
@backatbragg 3 жыл бұрын
Can you discuss the difference on the taxes difference on trading in an older car with a newer one and getting a tax credit ?
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
No tax credit. Sales tax is not refundable. You pay the sales tax rate in your state every time you purchase a vehicle.
@joshhogan7378
@joshhogan7378 Жыл бұрын
Great information! And the bit at the end. Super necessary! Thank you for meeting people where they are in their current situation.
@ranger2316
@ranger2316 3 жыл бұрын
Pay your car off ... trading under negative equity is not a strong negotiating position to be in.
@1LElife
@1LElife 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve done this a few times and it can be in some instances. I was able to get $4K over trade value on a car. The dealer agreed to pay off my loan completely and I got out from under it with no negative equity
@MsMalina24
@MsMalina24 2 жыл бұрын
@@1LElife omg that’s amazing! I hope that happens for me. May I ask now much you were upside down?
@cesar-lf1jw
@cesar-lf1jw 8 күн бұрын
@@MsMalina24damn he never answered lol
@barbarahodges8835
@barbarahodges8835 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this valuable info. I have learned today.
@jestexan12
@jestexan12 Жыл бұрын
Very simple and concise explanation. Great job!
@anthonygarcia5901
@anthonygarcia5901 Жыл бұрын
Im very thankful for this video. Im someone who is im a position where I have no choice. Been stuck and lost on what to do and this helped a tone thank you.
@freebandbizzo1649
@freebandbizzo1649 Ай бұрын
To add to this I felt the same way as I’m at the bank trying to figure exactly that!!
@Rock_Reggae_Riff
@Rock_Reggae_Riff 2 жыл бұрын
I work as a Fleet Auto Technician for a rental company (which I won't say at this point). Long story short, knew what I wanted to buy, also knew what cars had common issues, which ones to buy, and not to buy. Got my employee discount as well as an additional discount since the car was sitting at the lot for more than 2 months, yes I stalked the lot since the shop is next door 😆. As of today, I still owe roughly 7k on the loan. According to KBB, the trade in value is 13-15k. I do understand the lower resale value since it was a fleet vehicle, but I do not know how much lower it really will be. Is it still possible to get a good deal at this point? Should I consider refinancing, lowering the balance, etc?
@SM4YL-LA
@SM4YL-LA Жыл бұрын
@cj reyes Greetings, I am currently seeking to make a purchase of a new luxury sedan automobile. I would kindly request your guidance in determining the comparative merits of select vehicles, namely those of the Cadillac, BMW, Audi, and potentially the Mercedes-Benz. Specifically, I am interested in evaluating factors such as their liability, maintenance cost, and comfort amenities, among others.
@lifestyleofcori1792
@lifestyleofcori1792 Жыл бұрын
I just feel like there is no way I’m getting a new lease or loan from the dealership without amazing credit . And getting a check from them to pay off the other loan to add it into a loan or lease that I can’t even get smhh😅
@elijahberenschot3510
@elijahberenschot3510 3 жыл бұрын
What if I’m not upside down on the loan and I wanna trade it in to buy a cheap car in order to be debt free?
@kenyatta4rmdabeach745
@kenyatta4rmdabeach745 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I'm thinking about doing I currently drive a 2018 Nissan Altima and I currently want to trade it in for a 2008 Buick Lacrosse
@jayboddie8718
@jayboddie8718 2 жыл бұрын
You positive equity will go to the new car for smaller monthly payment
@tallkekepink95
@tallkekepink95 Жыл бұрын
Right now I got a 2020 SUV and I wanna downgrade at least to a 2016. This was a very impulsive purchase 😅
@Moresco24
@Moresco24 2 жыл бұрын
So a trade in with positive equity is essentially a down payment or cutting the price of the new car by whatever the loan to equity ratio is on your trade in right ? Example trade in value is 18k and I only owe 14k. The dealership pays the loan for me and takes of 4k of the new car I’m buying ?
@Theman3806
@Theman3806 Жыл бұрын
essentially, yes.
@tallkekepink95
@tallkekepink95 Жыл бұрын
This is great for people that bought a car and the car appreciates in value. If it depreciates trading in a car is a waste of money and time. Trade in is a what of money especially, if you have negative equity.. I thought different lol. But I’m so glad your comment broke it down to make way more sense. I’d rather pay my loan off and run the miles up for 4+ years and then sell it and get all or at least more than half of my money worth.
@Queenlife101
@Queenlife101 Жыл бұрын
@@tallkekepink95 makes a lot of sense. I’m in between right now I only owe 4000 left on my car that I bought brand new. I need a bigger car and was going to trade it in for a down payment . I’m So up and down
@JB3LL89
@JB3LL89 3 жыл бұрын
My last Nissan was having transmission issues and I had to trade my car in quickly and ended up 8k under water. I am really wanting to trade my Nissan for a Camry, but I am iffy about the negative equity and the Nissan I bought definitely wasn’t worth what in financed it for
@surebrecdnuoh2774
@surebrecdnuoh2774 2 жыл бұрын
What year/model is the nissan
@milliandallazz7362
@milliandallazz7362 2 жыл бұрын
Very interested information to know
@Jonathan-nu8ov
@Jonathan-nu8ov Жыл бұрын
What did you end up doing?
@Sagiana
@Sagiana Жыл бұрын
What did you do I’m in this EXACT position down to the Nissan & the 8k I have to trade asap but I’m not sure which way is best
@Kryptic1046
@Kryptic1046 3 жыл бұрын
Don't buy new cars. They are almost always a terrible investment and I can pretty much guarantee the vast majority of people who are underwater with their car loans are people who bought new. Buy used, something 2-3 years old with low miles. It's already taken its biggest depreciation hit and you will usually get a much nicer car for the same amount of money, and its value is less likely to sink like a rock while you're paying it off.
@freedomadventurer8454
@freedomadventurer8454 3 жыл бұрын
Or just pay in cash lol
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 2 жыл бұрын
Used cars that are 2 years old are almost the same cost as a new one. I saw a 2020 camry le going for 37500 with 18k miles and a 2022 with 16 miles brand new going for 38900. Two grand difference with warranty and peace of mind is worth it.
@tallkekepink95
@tallkekepink95 Жыл бұрын
Unless you get on cargurus! I was able to find a used SUV with 12k miles and I paid 20k for it. Of course they gave me a mandatory 1k VIP package. If it wasn’t for it being mandatory I would’ve just paid 19k
@tallkekepink95
@tallkekepink95 Жыл бұрын
I plan on riding my SUV miles up! And then selling for at least half what I paid for it. Hoping it can last me for 4+ years. And afterwards I’m downgrading and getting a car all in cash. At the moment in this crisis It made absolutely no sense to buy a Toyota or Honda with very high mileage. They want 2015-2016 Toyota for 25k with 100k+ miles
@allthingsinteresting6546
@allthingsinteresting6546 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the banks loan to market value
@repairaholic4858
@repairaholic4858 2 жыл бұрын
I got Stoneacre with a dodgy finance deal I'm at the point now where I can sell it add a little bit of money to get out of the trap.
@MelosGeckosLLC
@MelosGeckosLLC 3 ай бұрын
Wow, I should’ve did that with my trade value. I’m still happy with my purchase, but if I would’ve known, I can ask the dealer to cut me a check and go pay off the little bit that I owe because honestly all I needed to do is wait one more month and I would’ve had all the money, but I didn’t want this specific Car to get taken off the lot, but this information was very very useful for in the future
@ianreza1222
@ianreza1222 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video it made so much sense and like you said I don't have a choice but I need a bigger vehicle. It'll be paid off in the same amount of time I hope thanks buddy!
@BussymusPrime
@BussymusPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t know if anybody will ever see this but here’s hoping. I have a car that I just got a year ago and currently I’m unhappy with its mpgs and my monthly payments. The car is worth around 5.5k and I owe 11k on the loan, the dealership that has the new car I’m interested in does not handle any kind of financing at all and I feel stumped as to what I can do. I want to avoid having to take out too much money or do multiple loans just to pay the car off and trade it in and then get another for the new car.
@Jonathan-nu8ov
@Jonathan-nu8ov Жыл бұрын
What did you end up doing?
@kebomotovibez8511
@kebomotovibez8511 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, my dealer reach out to me about that and I wasn't sure if this were for real.
@negotiationguides
@negotiationguides 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely for real
@codyjordan9420
@codyjordan9420 Ай бұрын
I just put 20k down on a new 24 Tacoma . I’m financing 25k. Say I want to trade in a year or so and I owe less than 20k on my loan. How would that work and would I get a good deal.
@Yes-dy3nx
@Yes-dy3nx 4 ай бұрын
This helped if the car lot DOESNT match your cars worth but what if they do?? Your car is worth 14k, you owe 18k, you trade it in for something 14k, would you still need a down payment for that or would the 18k just transfer over onto the new one that’s paid off so you’d only really owe what you did in the beginning?
@primetimejaeyt2213
@primetimejaeyt2213 8 ай бұрын
Wow it’s like you knew i had a 2015 accord and i owe 15000 on it😭
@johngonzalez9393
@johngonzalez9393 2 жыл бұрын
Would gap insurance cover that difference?
@yonibuni2423
@yonibuni2423 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so the dealership I bought my 2017 Hyundai Elantra GT called and ask if I would be interested in trading in, which I am. So according to KBB my car worth is 7809, so I’m concerned about the roll over amount. Will I end up paying more on a car note if I trade in for a newer vehicle that is more than my current vehicle value? Or would it be less if I look at something closer or less than my current cars value? I hope my question makes sense.
@crimsonhawk11234
@crimsonhawk11234 2 жыл бұрын
You subtract how much your car is worth from how much you owe then add that sum onto your new loan
@mmoran0614
@mmoran0614 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to trade in a car that not only is not paid off BUT...is crashed and not repaired? Short story: Some asshole hit me and ran away...the police claims they were not able to find him even though there were like 12 cameras at walking distance from the crash. Called my insurance...turns out they canceled the policy just two days before for a credit card payment issue. I have negative equity of $4,600 and fixing the car would cost me about the same. I'd rather trade it in and get another vehicle. Is it possible to trade in the crashed car? Thanks
@LetoAtreides82
@LetoAtreides82 3 жыл бұрын
Can you give us an update? Sounds like really bad timing with the insurance policy.
@Jonathan-nu8ov
@Jonathan-nu8ov Жыл бұрын
What did you end up doing?
@willalfano8
@willalfano8 3 жыл бұрын
what should you do if you don't like a car that you just bought new?
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. If you trade now you will take a big loss 20% or more plus your taxes and fees.
@justshady
@justshady 3 жыл бұрын
Lord, why didn’t you rent it first? Turo etc... your going to take a huge loss
@peterlopez5435
@peterlopez5435 3 жыл бұрын
@@justshady honestly that is some good advice.
@firnameweren5311
@firnameweren5311 3 жыл бұрын
The huge loss people are talking about with buying new and driving it off the lot and instantly losing a lot of resale value is dependent on the vehicle. For example, I bought a fully loaded 2020 Subaru Ascent Touring in July of 2020 for 47,099 (not including taxes and fees), and I have my appraisal and will be selling this vehicle to CarMax tonight for $43,200 after 9 months of ownership and like I said I bought the car brand new.
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
@@firnameweren5311 Good for you. You happen to have an in demand model in a market that has very low inventory/ high demand for used vehicles. It's all about timing, how much you paid and your interest rate. You lose on processing fees and sales tax.
@resdawgs
@resdawgs 9 ай бұрын
Best thing to do is crash the old car you dont want.😂
@ShhRoomvii
@ShhRoomvii 4 ай бұрын
Or have it stolen 😅
@smizzyy1
@smizzyy1 3 ай бұрын
Literally
@matrix2030x
@matrix2030x 3 ай бұрын
my daughter's car was just total loss for a 5mph fender bender and it wasn't even that bad 🤣🤣🤣
@mindfullymellow2323
@mindfullymellow2323 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t recommend an intentional crash. But my RAV4 was totaled after a hit and run while it was parked. Owed $9k on it, but settlement was $15k.
@jacquelinemartinez6235
@jacquelinemartinez6235 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know much so I got a loan for 14,000 they got me with a really high apr, making it a total of above 20,000 which is nothing near what the car is worth. So if I plan to sell it I have to get the whole 20,000? Or just pay off the 14,000 which is what I initially asked for ?
@jaredpatterson1701
@jaredpatterson1701 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds nice, btw go Cs! But I owe basically 28k on a car worth 14k-17k
@elijahmanard5180
@elijahmanard5180 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheKhaos85
@TheKhaos85 3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahmanard5180 thats with your interest rate. Contact your loan company and ask for a payoff quote
@TheKhaos85
@TheKhaos85 3 жыл бұрын
The payoff quote is different from your actual loan
@ibrohimismailov2993
@ibrohimismailov2993 2 күн бұрын
what if a person is leaving the country, my friend is, and does not need to buy a new car. Will in this case car dealership still pay the negative balance for you?
@lesterdelacruz5088
@lesterdelacruz5088 6 ай бұрын
Made an impulse buy for a Mazda miata. 1 year later I hate it because there is not space. Can’t even do grocery. I’m willing to own my mistake for taking in extra debt but need a more practical car that I can actually do groceries with.
@celstonn1629
@celstonn1629 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s say my car is worth 17,000 and I owe 10,000 , if I want to downgrade to a vehicle worth 12,000 what would happen
@johnnydamn3923
@johnnydamn3923 3 жыл бұрын
I just commented the same thing I think you’d walk away with about 7k for using towards the new car, not sure though
@tallkekepink95
@tallkekepink95 Жыл бұрын
I wanna downgrade too.. lol but right now I’m in negative equity. I want a Toyota or Honda with less miles though. Right now these cars are selling high with very high mileage. What you end up doing?
@celstonn1629
@celstonn1629 Жыл бұрын
I ended up selling back owed nothing on the car but didn’t make anything off of it and downgrading using cash. Never taking out a car loan again.
@laurenwilliams777
@laurenwilliams777 Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to figure this out right now in the current climate. My car is worth $29k and I’ve paid $20k into it. I still owe $18k and have a $525 monthly. Problem I’m having is getting into something that’s not over priced. I don’t want to get hammed. Ideally I’d just like a short term lease. Idk what exactly to do 🤷🏻‍♂️
@ImANaidemoc
@ImANaidemoc Ай бұрын
You would have to pay the difference for the “new” car which is $5k They pay u $17k, you pay off the rest of the $10k you owe. Then the $7k youre left with deducts from the $12k price of the “new” car.
@castdetails3408
@castdetails3408 2 жыл бұрын
what if you owe 13k off a 20k loan and you want to get something a little older to save you money. Say you get something around 10k? Do you get the extra 3k down towards the 10k car you purchased?
@giobarajas3654
@giobarajas3654 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on how much your current vehicle is valued. If your car is valued at 13k and you want something that's 10k then yes you'll have positive equity of 3k but if it's worth 9k then you'll be in negative equity
@Senza_1
@Senza_1 Жыл бұрын
@@giobarajas3654people really buy cars and don’t understand depreciation?
@hippibooy
@hippibooy 2 жыл бұрын
AWSOME INFO!! Thank you.
@jessewynne8193
@jessewynne8193 8 ай бұрын
The dealers still going to go thru the whole spiel signing you up with a loan with like 10 grand off because they’re gonna expect that you’re gonna give them the amount you get for your car from the other dealer. But it will make your payments. A hell of less than you got now, even with the three or $4000 check that give you, but they’re not gonna give you a $4000 check without signing you up for a new loan seeing if you’re approved first
@jaysrt21
@jaysrt21 23 күн бұрын
So if I have a car loan I got for 10k can I trade it in for a car around 7k? Had the car for about 2 years
@McGD4
@McGD4 Жыл бұрын
So if I wanted to trade in a van. I owe $25,000 on. KBB trade in value is 23,000-25,000. Looking to trade in for a Tesla. Would I be better off trading in directly to Tesla or trying to get a full cash offer from kbb, vroom or another comapny to match what I owe?
@emoneybags3673
@emoneybags3673 2 жыл бұрын
I financed a 2014 qx80 in November but want to upgrade.
@vicyoung6102
@vicyoung6102 Жыл бұрын
This mam just gave you all a lesson of what it's like trading your vehicle if you know you know
@Nomadunlimited
@Nomadunlimited 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ari.Wish I found this video 2 weeks ago
@sagetajr
@sagetajr 2 жыл бұрын
Ihow much is too much negative equity? Im currently sitting on 10k n.e. Is that a lot?
@georgemk4370
@georgemk4370 3 жыл бұрын
Love you and your info ❤
@LeeRoyLion
@LeeRoyLion 3 жыл бұрын
I got a question. If I owe more then my car is worth, but I have the money to make the difference should I pay the bank or the dealer. Is there a difference?
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
Use that amount as a down payment
@byroncortezmusic1327
@byroncortezmusic1327 3 жыл бұрын
Sell it privately (fb marketplace, online websites) and pay the bank the remainder payoff balance out of pocket… you’ll get more money from a private buyer than what a dealer would normally offer.
@M0DFATH3R
@M0DFATH3R 3 жыл бұрын
@@byroncortezmusic1327 what about the title ?
@byroncortezmusic1327
@byroncortezmusic1327 3 жыл бұрын
@@M0DFATH3R as soon as you pay off the loan the title will be released to the buyer. You have to make sure to pay off the balance first before taking this big step… may need to match up the end price with your own out of pocket money.
@troyelder56
@troyelder56 2 жыл бұрын
What you have positive equity? My car's KBB is worth almost twice what I owe. Does the extra go towards my new car as a down payment?
@shainakascak7259
@shainakascak7259 Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering the same thing. Toyota is offering me $15k on my 2017 Corolla and I owe $4,776 left on it so it’s way higher than what I owe. I can’t figure out what happens the money I owe since it’s not negative equity?
@gocowboys51411
@gocowboys51411 4 күн бұрын
I don't know what to do. I have a car I've been paying on with a 11.99% interest rate. I bought it for 12,000 and after almost 2 years of paying 491 a month I still owe 11,400$! It has 142,000 miles on it and if I don't get rid of it now I'll be paying for it 10 years after it's broke down. I don't know a price range for a new car I should pick or anything. The kbb value of the car I have is only about 3-4,000... so if I go trying to trade my car in for a 20,000$ car and they give me 3,000 for the car I have I'll add like 8,000$ onto the 20,000$... I really don't want to mess up this time.😢
@thomasreed8259
@thomasreed8259 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about 3,000 upside down but now gas prices are soaring my suv may even have less value
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
No. SUV market is very strong especially on used.
@Zeus0886
@Zeus0886 3 жыл бұрын
What about when you have equity in the trade. Does the dealer cut you a check right there or do they mail you a check?
@negotiationguides
@negotiationguides 3 жыл бұрын
Either .. I’ve seen both
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
The equity can be used as your down payment.
@Kryptic1046
@Kryptic1046 3 жыл бұрын
@@kate60 - Sometimes, yes. Some lenders will still want a down payment regardless of your trade equity.
@kate60
@kate60 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kryptic1046 Correct
@user-cm2lg1vk2b
@user-cm2lg1vk2b 11 ай бұрын
If I owe 33 thousand but trade in for a 26 thousand dollar car do I just pay the difference of 7-8k?
@alecsalas1952
@alecsalas1952 3 жыл бұрын
Ari, I need advice. I have a nice 2018 pick up truck was offered 32k as trade in but I’m still upside down 18k. Lost my old job due to covid and with my new one I can no longer afford my 1k monthly payment and I’d be comfortable more around 6-7 hundred. The car I’m interested in is brand new and has a msrp of 34k and sale price of 30k. My Credit is fine but I want to get out before I start falling behind on payments and Ruining my credit.. looks like it may be coming soon. Making principle payments , or saving on the side is nearly impossible. I’ve already cut back on a lot habitual expenses, eating out, junk etc.
@ryanshannon7703
@ryanshannon7703 3 жыл бұрын
Based upon Ari's knowledge passing in the video: I would get a pre-qualification for the car that you're looking to purchase. Ideally you can push the payments out to anywhere from 60 to 72 months with 0% interest. I would then sell the truck to the highest bidder (Carmax, some other dealer, whoever...) to payoff as much as you can on that loan. Then, I would ask the lender for your truck to refinance that remaining balance (18k or whatever it is) for a few years without a ridiculously high interest rate. This would reduce your monthly payment on the truck from 1k to something more reasonable, most likely between $250 and $300 per month. Assuming you can get a $30k new car loan at 0% interest for 72 months, that would bring your new car loan payment to around $417. Remember, if you want to achieve the *lowest* monthly payment while extending the duration of the loan, you *must* put as much down payment on the loan with the *highest* interest rate. If the new car dealer will give you a loan that will roll in your equity at really low interest (1.99 for 72 months, for example) it would still make sense to separate out the loans to get that 0% on the new car, unless you just want the convenience of a single loan payment. But, I always have auto-draft on my payments so I never think about it until it's done. A simple equation to look at regarding when you should take a negative equity carry-over into a new loan at whatever interest rate is: [(OldCarResidualLoanValue) / (OldCarResidualLoanValue + NewCarLoan)] = PercentOfLoanFromOldCar PercentOfLoanNewCar * NewCarInterestRate = Effective Interest Rate Proportional to Loan Ratio (If new car is 0% interest, effective interest rate is 0) PercentOfLoanFromOldCar * RefinanceTruckInterestRate = Effective Interest Rate Proportional to Loan Ratio Scenario1: If bank will refinance your truck carrying a balance of 18K with an interest rate at 3.49% for 72 months (About $277/month) and... If new car loan is 72 months at 30K with 0% interest (About $417/month). Scenario2: OR, New Car Dealer says they will pay off your truck AND finance your new car, but with an interest rate of 1.99% for 72 months, then you're probably better off keeping them separate as the payment would be $708, which is $14 more you're paying per month, at $168/yr, with $1008 over 6 years. Your example could be: (18000 / (18000 + 30000)) = 0.375 (Truck Loan Ratio) (1 - 0.375) * 0% = 0 (This is the New Car Loan Ratio * interest rate) 100 * 0.375 * 3.49% = 1.30875% That means if the new car dealer says they'll carry over your entire balance of your truck and they charge you an interest rate greater than 1.31% then you're better off keeping the loans separate. This is just a quick/dirty example, but it'll be much easier to navigate if you have a car payment calculator accessible to you when you start negotiating. I would probably call your lender and ask what rate they would refinance you at if you had a residual balance of 18k (or whatever the remaining balance would be to the highest bidder). It probably depends upon the duration of the loan as well. Obviously it's cheaper to pay off earlier unless they give you 0% interest. That way you have an idea of what your negative equity payment would be and it will help you navigate the second step, which is would it make sense to let the dealership cover your remaining loan if they're willing to do so. At least then you'll have all the numbers at your disposal and you can see if you're going to be taken for an extra $30, $40 or $50/month for however many years. I would probably look at a good CPO if any dealerships offer 0% on CPOs, as they're usually a bit cheaper than new, but that 0% helps a lot, unless the sales price on a pre-owned is much lower. Hope that helps. Good luck!
@Sassywhitclass
@Sassywhitclass 3 жыл бұрын
I'm im the same boat
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve 3 жыл бұрын
You are already hosed on a 50K car and now you want to buy a 30K one? Your best bet is to try and scrape together 10K, get a personal loan for 10K, and buy something under 10K. I make 100K a year and drive a 4K car because my finances were about messed up as yours. And I'm not going to end up back there again.
@aeromedical6750
@aeromedical6750 3 жыл бұрын
Good lawd. Who the heck gets into a truck for a $1K a month payment anyways? Unless you are make $250K annually, you have no business in that much vehicle. Then you state that you’d be more comfortable in a 6-7 hundred a month payment? Well, there’s your problem. You’re worried about falling behind on payments and you even considered buying a BRAND NEW car? Dude, you’re broke. Do you not get that? You’re sacrificing your financial future over a flipping car. I just bought a brand new Honda CR-V with an MSRP of $31K. Guess what- I used my PAID FOR 2104 Acura TL as trade in and wrote a check in full for the difference. I could do this because I’m not over my head in cars. If you don’t change your behavior with regards to cars, you’re pretty much doomed financially.
@so.many.obstacles
@so.many.obstacles 2 жыл бұрын
@@aeromedical6750 you’re not helping. He asked for help not judgment after the fact.
@DJthe2nd
@DJthe2nd 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 Honda CRV that I got in 2019 because at the time I needed another car. Old one was on its last leg. I'm still VERY upside down on it as I owe 23K on it. MY(notice I said "MY") dream car is a 2020 or 2021 Toyota Highlander. How good is resale value for used CRV's? Mine has about 42K miles on it. Is it even remotely possible to trade that in with such a huge balance remaining?
@Sly-cl3zj
@Sly-cl3zj 5 ай бұрын
What did you do
@RyanPowerhouse
@RyanPowerhouse 2 жыл бұрын
This does. T explain how to take a car with negative equity directly to a Dealership though. I don't want to deal with appraisals from multiple places.
@Loso0523
@Loso0523 3 жыл бұрын
What if you owe 19k on your trade in still, and get a new car(lease) and the dealership pays the whole 19k for you?
@gamefreak173
@gamefreak173 2 жыл бұрын
If your credit allows it they will add that charge to the current car you want to get assuming it's worth that amount of 19k
@SuaveOnFilm
@SuaveOnFilm 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ari, I have a Kia Rio with a payout of 16.3k, my local Kia is offering me 12-13k trade in, (bought it for 12.6). My question is, if I want to trade it in for a K5, can I still shop around for my own auto loan rate or am I obligated to finance at the dealership since I’m doing a trade in considering I’ll have about 3k rolling over.
@negotiationguides
@negotiationguides 3 жыл бұрын
You can most certainly bring your own rate
@SuaveOnFilm
@SuaveOnFilm 3 жыл бұрын
@@negotiationguides thanks, just found you today. Earned my sub
@jerrythomas4457
@jerrythomas4457 Жыл бұрын
Why would you buy another car and take a hit on the trade in? That’s ignorant. That’s why everyone in America is broke
@61britchie
@61britchie 9 ай бұрын
If you have negative equity keep your car and pay it off
@bossclazzic
@bossclazzic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this information !! I was trying to figure out how to go about this. Gonna give this a try.
@sinhalo
@sinhalo 4 ай бұрын
The biggest thing missed with his scenerio with the check thing is you lose thousands of dollars on tax savings if you do this route. Imagine buying 100k car (example purposes) not trading it in at the original dealer and going to Carmax, you lose thousands and thousands of dollars on taxes that you could’ve saved. I appreciate the video, but this is the most simplest and less detailed approach and on top of it a bigger headache when we’re squabbling in the example of just wanted two grand which could’ve been saved on taxes alone.
@cristianmendoza6301
@cristianmendoza6301 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting but I have positive equity....looking to trade towards a truck
@donb5829
@donb5829 Жыл бұрын
So let me get this correct. Your saying a dealership will give you money the finish paying out you loan??? Even if your not buying from them? KZfaq use to be a place where you could learn anything now people just get on here making up anything smh
@RellMonroe
@RellMonroe 5 ай бұрын
Ikr! Lol
@FollowKatEverywhere
@FollowKatEverywhere Жыл бұрын
is this still possible to do if you’ve co-signed and the co-signer has never made a payment/ doesn’t live in the same state as you anymore?
@WillEaster-ix9dr
@WillEaster-ix9dr 5 ай бұрын
You lost me on the part about the $3000 check the dealer gives you. They’re are required to give you a check? I would just like a little more information to understand better
@hondas8447
@hondas8447 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if the requirements is 3 years they told you but ends up maybe 4 years to finish paying off ,can you get in trouble or they can take your car or at least they receive money still
@SadfoxGuyver
@SadfoxGuyver Жыл бұрын
That 2015 hits different
@Yes-dy3nx
@Yes-dy3nx 4 ай бұрын
Okay so the way I always understood it was, let’s say I have a Kia optima worth 14k but I owe 18k, and I want to trade it in. So, I find a Chevy Malibu that cost 14k, I trade it in and essentially the 14k that my Kia was worth, is what I use to pay off the 14k Malibu, and then I only carry over the 18k that I owed in the beginning. Or maybe I’m wrong?
@kceeman
@kceeman 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but what if the equity you owe on the car is around $10k more than the car is worth?
@brittanytaylor9205
@brittanytaylor9205 3 жыл бұрын
Following
@MsMalina24
@MsMalina24 2 жыл бұрын
Right that’s what I wanna know. Because I know my car is worth $13,000 but my payoff is $21,000 and the car I want is about $14,000 brand new with a couple rebates on it as well
@jamesbell1863
@jamesbell1863 2 жыл бұрын
@@MsMalina24 so what you going to do?
@tallkekepink95
@tallkekepink95 Жыл бұрын
Damn what you end up doing? I know my car is worth 17-18k and my pay off is 24k. But I told them to take my warranty and GAP insurance off so I’ll be at about 20k. So I’ll be 2k under water. I do wanna downgrade to a Toyota or Honda 2016 or 2017. But I need positive equity. If I can find a Toyota at 30k miles selling for 15k I’ll be willing to trade but I need to be at a positive equity. Right now my SUV is at 13k miles. I’m gone run my miles up at least until 60k miles. I see the same SUV online for 18k 64k miles
@shortair84
@shortair84 2 жыл бұрын
If I understand this correctly.. dealer a had the new car you may be trying to by but dealer b is offering more for trade in .. You can ask dealer a to write you a check for 3 grand and add that into the loan of which is connected to the car you are trying to buy from them. And then taking that 3 grand and giving it to dealer b along with trading/selling older vehicle to them do they can pay the difference off to the bank ... Dealer b gets your old car and can sell it and dealer a you can buy new car with loan that has that 3 grand attached to it?? Do dealerships just buy cars even if you don't buy from them?
@akilianonymous5427
@akilianonymous5427 3 жыл бұрын
I have a vehicle I want to trade in I still owe 7300 on it but they only want to offer 5/6 grand for it so I’m in Negative Equity at the moment and every time I try and trade in my car they want a down payment is there anyway to trade in my vehicle and pay no down payment?
@calvinnunnally5319
@calvinnunnally5319 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting 😏 I didn't know this.good to know if u in a trade jam
@carloscervantes618
@carloscervantes618 Жыл бұрын
How about if you have a new car and you ain’t happy with it
@serg74ful
@serg74ful 3 жыл бұрын
So say you trade in the car somewhere else like you said, when getting the new car at the dealership would you still need a down payment for the new car?
@nicolelara4921
@nicolelara4921 3 жыл бұрын
You never need a down payment… you will just have higher monthly payments. The dealership will always want money now if you have it.
@cesardariovargas
@cesardariovargas 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the advice
@Caligrown213
@Caligrown213 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information 🤙🏿🔥
@jayjayxpxd
@jayjayxpxd Жыл бұрын
Hi quick question. Does it hurt your credit score? If you trade in your loan car for another car that you have to get another loan for?
@Jen-fs5lp
@Jen-fs5lp 10 ай бұрын
No
@unspokensniperlive8089
@unspokensniperlive8089 2 жыл бұрын
Hello it’s been around 8 months since I financed a car for 36k new and now I want to trade it in for a car that’s 30k. Can I do that how will it work?
@thec.a.m.p2446
@thec.a.m.p2446 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully this helps
@frank87261990
@frank87261990 Жыл бұрын
Does trashing your car hurt your credit?
@faznout
@faznout Жыл бұрын
"Trashing" your car doesn't hurt your credit it just hurts the value of your car.
@livinginthe904
@livinginthe904 10 ай бұрын
So you’re saying that instead of selling it with the dealer who you’re doing the deal with, you can say no I’m doing a deal somewhere else for more but can you write me a check for $30k to pay off the loans and you just roll it into my new car balance??? Instead of them putting the whole balance of what you owe on top of the new car? Please let me know I’m trying to trade two Porsches
@Christopher.dreamless
@Christopher.dreamless 7 ай бұрын
I want to trade in my truck. I"m sure I can afford to pay the truck down to whatever the dealership/bank offers me for my truck. Should I do that and go into the new loan without being upside down?
@ashleymarie7058
@ashleymarie7058 3 жыл бұрын
What if I am selling to CarMax with a current balance on the car loan that is behind with a settlement amount. CarMax offered me $3600. My settlement amount (to get the title and be satisfied) is $2087. The actual account balance though is 4k?
@jbryansoto
@jbryansoto Жыл бұрын
Okay, so let me ask I got a GMC Sierra payoff of 50,000 (just got it about 5 months) I want to get a new one, which is valued at 58,000 at my local dealer. Does it mean that if the trade value is 39,000 would only owe 19k on the new vehicle?
@HustleHarder_
@HustleHarder_ Жыл бұрын
yes
@marilynh5487
@marilynh5487 3 жыл бұрын
How to trade my new 2020 for a new 2021 same car Nissan Maximum SR
@LilRobby
@LilRobby Жыл бұрын
i got a car from enterprise i believe i was leasing to own something like that, ok so i got plowed into t-boned... isn't there a way i don't have to pay the remaining balance, but just a portion ? i was like halfway through my payments but isn't there a way i don't have to make payments anymore... like where i can just pay a portion of the 12,000 i owe?
@dsgcarlos6318
@dsgcarlos6318 3 ай бұрын
i’m trying to trade in my 2019 nissan with 103k miles for an older toyota/honda i still owe 15k after having it for a year the highest value i’ve seen for my car was 8.6k
@stephensmith6727
@stephensmith6727 2 ай бұрын
Similar issue here.. 😣
@dsgcarlos6318
@dsgcarlos6318 2 ай бұрын
@@stephensmith6727 well trading is pretty much out of the picture as i’ve gone around dealerships so unless i have an extra 5k to cough up i have no choice but to refinance, stick with the car, or make extra payments that are interest free
@brunothesixCanada
@brunothesixCanada Жыл бұрын
I trade a 2018 dodge ram for a 2022 chev silverado so I still owe 15 k from the ram so now the total is 85 k now I not sure it was a good deal
@dereklight4804
@dereklight4804 Жыл бұрын
what if you’re trading with a private dealer? such as a car on the street for sale owned by that person while still owing money on your car
@SM4YL-LA
@SM4YL-LA Жыл бұрын
I currently own a 2020 Chevy Camaro that has a value of $27000. However, I still need to pay off $12800 for it. My intention is to trade it for a 2023 Cadillac CT5. Can you please advise me on what to do based on your experience?
@LovelyBri
@LovelyBri Жыл бұрын
I have a 20 Camaro SS and I'm ready to trade in mine too 😩
@Jayy-xx6gl
@Jayy-xx6gl 5 ай бұрын
I have a Mitsubishi mirage that I owe 10 thousand on and it’s only worth 2 thousand for trade in.
@michaelprichett0617
@michaelprichett0617 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question I have a 21 altima which I only had a year. I owe 30k I been looking at 21 chargers but I know I’ll have negative equity from a previous trade prior to getting this 21 altima should I continue look at the 21 charger or look at something older like 2018 through 2020 and possibly like a bmw or maxima?
@monkeys123lol
@monkeys123lol Жыл бұрын
You should get a 5k used car, save money, and stop trying to flex
@Givetheflowers
@Givetheflowers Жыл бұрын
@@monkeys123lolHey this the best thought process ever seen since researching this lol. I felt the same way. That roll over loan amount is gonna be a monster unless the car is super cheap.
@Brian-nn1tf
@Brian-nn1tf 4 ай бұрын
you had the altima for 1 year and still owed 30k ??? how ??
@michaelprichett0617
@michaelprichett0617 4 ай бұрын
@@Brian-nn1tf it was 35k when i got it i traded another car before I got the 21 Altima.
@Ccstaj
@Ccstaj Жыл бұрын
Ok I have a question for you. I bought a 2017 BMW X5 a few months ago. I just got it apprised for trading it in for a new Audi Q7 and the value came back at the same price I purchased the vehicle 4 or 5 months ago. Honestly I don't care for the Audi. I'm a BMW guy, this is now my 4th. I was wondering if you had any advice on how to proceed trading in my financed X5 for a lease on an new one? **Note 1 out of 4 BMWs will make you pull your hair out.
@LuisRodriguez-vk2ym
@LuisRodriguez-vk2ym 3 жыл бұрын
let me tell you Ally does care who's buying the car...I get a buyout quote, and the dealer gets a different one, $3500 higher than mine. When I called to complain, they told me they are obligated to sell it to me at the price on the contract, but because the dealer will be the one paying it off, they will charge whatever amount they want to make a profit, and I mean ALLY by charging more. They are worthless,
@M0DFATH3R
@M0DFATH3R 3 жыл бұрын
I hate them I deal with them, you miss a payment they called you 4 times a day
@Meechy1985
@Meechy1985 3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to get rid of my 07 nissan murano for 2021 honda accord sport and I was pre-approved for the one I want. I have a loan that I took out with One Main Financial and my balance is $11,515.24. I know that they will add that balance on to my new loan if approved for what I want. Is it likely they will be able to get me into something.
@peoplesinfo1727
@peoplesinfo1727 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat with 2013 but I owe 10k n I’m tryin to get a 2019 but my credit is good
@TheRealHerrr
@TheRealHerrr 3 жыл бұрын
So I have a question I have a Honda Civic 2017 & want to trade it in for a Honda Accord 2018 their offering me 14k & I have a balance of 18000k would it be smart to make that trade?
@givemecash9404
@givemecash9404 3 жыл бұрын
If that's what you want make it happen but shop around for a better deal
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