Thank you!

Thx I love these types of comments, they save me time from watching other videos

I'm glad I could help, thank you!

@@shmsnow could you perhaps explain the difference between wetting and not wetting the towel during the no scrape method? Seems like a few people were mentioning that you shouldn't wet the towel.

@@TreyCamp The difference in material - you wouldn't want to try to use the no scrape method with a dry paper towel, but the towel will work.

I genuinely appreciate your high opinion. Thank you!

Great to hear!

Glad you liked them!

Glad it was helpful!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Glad you like them! Love ya

Much appreciated!

Glad it was helpful! The tools aren't cheap so get your money's worth.

I appreciate that! Thank you!

Glad it was helpful!

Check out the video description, copy and paste!

The basics will take you far! I'm glad you like it.

The red stone should be good enough for both, unless you're racing or need the slightly more polished edge for pure ice.

-12/+12, thanks for the compliments! I'd love to try directional freeriding but it would kill any hope of me retaining my switch skills. So maybe later.

Yes, filing is the extremely aggressive option. You want to use diamond stones for polishing the edge, not the file.

That totally works if you can't find the manufacturer's specs.

It's a little complex, but slowly section of the parts that are 2 degree and 3 degree and tune them, making sure the edge tuning tool is set at the right setting.

Make sure the edge tuner is set to the same side edge angle as the board (some edge tuners have one set angle), insert the diamond stone so it is stable, place the setup on the side edge, tune away.

Sorry to hear that!

To facilitate the removal of particles from the edge when polishing.

Edge tuning with magnatraction is tricky since the edges are in waves, and a typical diamond stone does not rest against the waved edge completely flat. I'm pretty sure libtech sells a custom file/stone guide specifically for magnatraction, but I'm not sure.

Looks like they do, but I assumed could be done with out it. Though like you said if specific then maybe not.@@shmsnow

@@J_Smith7 www.lib-tech.com/mtx-magne-traction-edge-tuning-tool-1 Here it is! I found the tool that Libtech sells.

thank you@@shmsnow Though it looks just like my Demon DS 7100 which also has 88 90 bevel edges. I have used this on my lib tech, but unclear how effective it is because even as magnatraction edges becomes dull they still grip well. Perhaps their tool has has some bend or specific shape to it helping it stay level with the edge as you go along.

@@J_Smith7 I think the file guide and the provided file is smaller than a typical rectangle file, which helps it adhere to the wavy edge more.

Yes you can, but use a base bevel guide, and carefully!

Before waxing, use the metal brush to remove dirt and wax. After, since the paper towel method uses little to no wax, use all three brushes in order, brushing with heavy strokes but not too many passes.

A base grind at a shop will get rid of the shallow scuffs and scratches. Just make sure you find a really good shop that knows exactly - EXACTLY - what they're doing with base grinds.

Top sheet wear and tear is something that occurs with all boards, and is not much to worry about in terms of performance (if for appearances, there's not much you can do for your topsheet.) I will work on a video on base repair assessment and performance in the future.

@@shmsnowThanks for the info, your videos are great. One more question, have you tried double positive stance? I've been seeing James Cherry, and JustaRide Snowboard doing it and wanted your opinion since yours was the original video I was learning off from.

@@lequacken9801 No. I have not tried positive stance. I would love to, but I'm afraid it would detract from my switch ability.

Depends on what style of riding and the conditions you ride in. Carving + icy all mountain conditions require good edges, while park not so much.

You could use a coarse stone to rub off rust, but it would take significantly more effort than using a gummy stone.

www.thepisteoffice.com/index.php/1-tuning-advice/edge-angles-wax-data/15-ski-manufacturers-edge-angle-specifications Check this website. Unfortunately this tool doesn't do half angles on the side angle, just the base. But if you're looking for the exact 1.5 edge angle, there are plenty of other good tuning tools out there.

86/87 side edge angle is super aggressive, and delves into the ski and slalom racer realm of edge sharpness. You only ever need those side bevels if you’re carving on very icy double/black runs. Laid down carving is all about technique anyways. An 88 degree side bevel should be enough.

If burrs are too large, that's just permanent damage. Just wear and tear from normal riding!

Not shouldn't, but more so that you should have someone with experience perform base tuning, or to teach you first.

In the description, you can copy and paste everything into google!

Just clean them after every use with a small brush and water and they will last you years.

@@shmsnow That's great news, thank you!

Of course, but use a Libtech Edge tuner for the best results.

For carving, do not detune. Sharpen away!

To remove rust - not as agressive as a file, but nowhere as sharp as a diamond stone. The abrasive stone is right in the middle between those two.

You would use a file i stead of a diamond stone and go through the same process, but it is pretty difficult if doing it for the first time. You should fine someone experienced or a shop to do it for you.

If you’re using a typical NA brand, the side edge angle is usually 1 degree. That’s your safest bet. You can ask your local reputable board shop about it as well.

Use a felt tip pen to paint a short section of the edge, then go over that section one pass with the guide - if the paint is removed evenly, the guide is set to the angle of your board, if the paint is removed only near the base or near the top, change the guide to a steepor or shallower angle and start over. If no paint is taken off, besides a way too steep angle, a board that had it edges tuned quite some times already may need its sidewalls cut to make them recessed in relation to the edge again..

Yes.

Glad you like it! You can tune magnetraction edges exactly just like a normal edge, despite whatever libtech might say.

@@shmsnow alright, thx. Well, probably if you do it manually, then it's no problem. If you put it through a service machine, the edges are gonna get messed up and you can throw away the board (happend to a shred-buddy of mine). That's probbaly what Mervin is refering to.

@@t.blaschke7461 Of course. This video is all about hand - tuning, after all.

I gotta disagree in both areas. While, of course the may be shitty/old machines and sure are lazy/incompetent operators of them, modern machines do handle Magne Traction just fine. The thing I would be more scared of with shops, is them likely not caring for what angle your board currently has, and applying their preference, which may well be targeted towards skiiers. Not sure whether these fully automatic machines that work through a whole bunch of skis and boards in one go have sensors to detect current angles and adapt to them, that would be cool and one would sure hope so, but who knows. As for manually doing your edges, yes you can do it, but no, you can not do it as shown in the video. At least with the older, less mellow Magne Traction is so, that in the concave parts a normal diamond stone used with its long side like in the video wolud just touch the edge at two points with its ends and not in the rest of the concave parts, similarly you could only make it touch parts of the convex parts and had to take care to follow the curvature of the edge. What should work is using the stone sideways or at an angle, so that a much shorter part is touching the edge, this can be done with the fixed guides that consist of the actual guide and a separate clamp to attach the file or stone to the guide any way you want. What does work quite nice and swiftly (and is what I use) is the SKS Swing Cut guide, that has two inserts for two small quadratic diamond stones (or files) that swivel, so as you go both permanently follow the curvature of the edge.

@@elho001 ok, thanks for your tips!

If the edge isn't metal, it's probably not meant to be tuned. Less work for you!

Not physically possible, you can't add edge angles, only reduce.

Well, I accidentally set my tuner to 89 when I tuned the board. Have I damaged the board? Should I tune again at 88? I appreciate the help, thank you.

@@oggytudor5896You can just re-tune with 88 degrees and your edge will be okay. Do not worry!

Sweet! Thank you again for the help, Cheers 🤙🏻

Depends on where you defiled, if thats what you meant. In that case, you have to grab the file and then sharpen the edge with the file instead of the diamond stone.

@@shmsnow Thanks for the reply! I really apprecaite it dude. Yeah so I used the file on the side edge like I would use a diamond stone as some other video on here said that was the best way of tuning my edges. 😬I had it set to 90° when I did it. I have a Burton so should I just set the file to 89° and just file the side edge back to it's original side bevel angle of 1°? And then just use the diamond stones to tune as needed for the tuning going forward? Just hoping I haven't completely messed up my edge angles.

@@whatmagicisthis Yea, that should be okay. You can't just magically increase your side edge angle from 89 -> 90, so not too much damage should have been done anyways when you ran your file over the side edge at the 90 degree setting. Just a few passes with the file at 89, apply even and medium pressure, watching for spaghetti like metal filings to appear while you pass the file/guide over the edge, and you should be good. After resetting the side edge to 89 degrees, just use diamond stones after that, for just polishing.

@@shmsnow Amazing! Thank you so much, dude! I really apprecaite you taking the time to answer my questions. Keep on crushing it. I've said it before but it bears repeating- your videos are awesome!

@@whatmagicisthis Haha thank you! I wish someone would tell me this stuff when I started out. Just fulfilling that wish on my end.

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This video is for us nerds that like to know why, and how.

Of course. You only really need the sharpest edges for carving, the coarsest diamond stone is totally enough for normal all mountain riding.