How To Turn A Hero Into A Villain (The Reverse Redemption Arc?!)

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Midnight X Cross

Midnight X Cross

Күн бұрын

One interesting dynamic that you may see in popular anime and manga today is when a hero character slowly turns into a villain over the course of the story. Sometimes, the change is unexpected, but at other times, this change can come as quite the shock to the audience. In today's video, I want to discuss how you can turn a hero into a villain in your own manga creations, and make it an interesting and compelling process for all to witness. Thanks for watching!! 😊
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@sindraile5128
@sindraile5128 2 жыл бұрын
Hm.. I've been working on a story where one of the main character slowly turns villainous temporarily. But it's more along the lines of trauma. Kind of like a form of revenge, as they were an unwilling enforcer character that was out into a tough spot by the true villian. Most of the antagonists are more or less hurt people lashing out at innocents.
@docilelikewintercatfish9897
@docilelikewintercatfish9897 2 жыл бұрын
I would love read your story👍
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh that sounds really interesting. I always find it compelling to read about villains who simply went through difficult times, and their current character is a result of what they have experienced. I think it shows a really realistic and well developed character.
@sindraile5128
@sindraile5128 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind remarks. It's called Unspoken Dissidence. Though it's in its infancy, as I've started drawing out the pages last week. www.deviantart.com/dreiasdreamz/gallery/77952957/unspoken-dissidence
@sindraile5128
@sindraile5128 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I sound a bit conceited just linking my story in the comments.
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
@@sindraile5128 That looks fantastic! You have a great art style
@xtea206
@xtea206 2 жыл бұрын
Just the guide I needed. I was planing on writing a story where the main characters/the couple is on opposite sides. One on the "good", the other on the "bad". I wanted them the switch roles later in the story. And this video was very helpful. Thank you a lot.
@darealblackg.o.d2001
@darealblackg.o.d2001 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had planned something like this in my story thank you you’re ideas and tips really helped me make it so much better
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
That's wonderful!! I'm really happy to hear that my video helped you 😊 Keep up the great work!
@darealblackg.o.d2001
@darealblackg.o.d2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross Yeah my series it’s called Among The Light...it’s basically like inspired from like Mass Effect, Cyberpunk, John Wick universe, with Dragon Ball Z influences...I know it sounds crazy but I’ve already kinda finished it and it all worked out and the main female protagonist is going to go down this path but at the climax stop because we’re trying to define in the story what is a hero...? What is truly heroic..? It has all sorts of stuff in it and my artwork of it is inspired by Ilya Kushinov I really hope you get to see it one day...I kinda just spent the last six years making it and finally finishing up and this video just help by adding subtle signs and nuances to it
@docilelikewintercatfish9897
@docilelikewintercatfish9897 2 жыл бұрын
@@darealblackg.o.d2001 where can we read it?
@darealblackg.o.d2001
@darealblackg.o.d2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@docilelikewintercatfish9897 soon I already got the copyright I’m just finishing bits and pieces to it’s sequel and then draw it then I’m going to pitch it
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
@@darealblackg.o.d2001 Wow I love that! It sounds super interesting
@DY2727
@DY2727 2 жыл бұрын
I literally need this how did you read my mind? 🤯
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy to hear that! I hope this video helped you 😁
@xianlagutin3203
@xianlagutin3203 17 сағат бұрын
5:17 Anakin Skywalker from Star Wars Revenge of the Sith is a good example of this one .
@drippieacd7364
@drippieacd7364 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a 'Passing the torch' video next please. Like having the main protagonist pass on his/her legacy on to an apprentice or daughter, effectively making a new main protagonist.
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do plan on making this video! However, I have some others already scheduled, so the passing the torch video will likely be up within the next few weeks. 😊
@drippieacd7364
@drippieacd7364 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross 😊Thank you!
@Lilas.Duveteux
@Lilas.Duveteux 2 жыл бұрын
I have a very conflicted protagonist. His main sin is pride, but most of his motivation is very down to earth and changing. Like not wanting to die, be bullied, wants to be loved by his family, wants to be recognized as a member of society, wants his father to cuddle him once a while and he wants his loved ones to be safe. He needed to maintain a fake identity to attend school so he can one day become a doctor. He actually dreams of saving lives. By a mixture of economic necessity and emotional blackmail, he is forced to become an executioner when really, he's very much underaged and not fit for the job at all. His understanding of social norms is rather poor, since he didn't really have any friends growing up and he lived in an era before abuse-ed. He reads etiquette books to compensate but there is only so much one can learn academically.
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Aw it sounds like he went through a lot of difficult times. He's really well developed as a character, and I think his story and journey throughout your book would be interesting to read about. Thank you for sharing 😊
@guitarnerd106
@guitarnerd106 Жыл бұрын
Ayo you got a WEBTOON or watt pad or smth cuz if you do drop the link 😌
@Lilas.Duveteux
@Lilas.Duveteux Жыл бұрын
@@guitarnerd106 No.
@chariots8x230
@chariots8x230 2 жыл бұрын
You always dissect storytelling topics in an amazing way! Your videos are very helpful. Thank you!! 😊
@zero23856
@zero23856 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I’m making a creative writing essay for school, this was sort of a checklist for me and it made things very clear as to what I could add and what I needed. This was super helpful, thank you!!
@marcosandoval6973
@marcosandoval6973 2 жыл бұрын
Great!!! Feel like no one else discusses this topic
@jeppy4021
@jeppy4021 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! This is perfect timing video! Can u make a sci-fi premise ideas video?
@supreme_king_ultima5370
@supreme_king_ultima5370 2 жыл бұрын
HOLLY MOLLY YOUR GENIUS, I actually wanted to do this but I just didn't know how it was a huge thorn in my path but now its as if the Problem never even existed!. Thanks!
@littlesquishy3195
@littlesquishy3195 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this! Thank you Midnight X Cross for making these helpful videos, i hope you have a good day! You are the best! ☺️ ❤️
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Aw thank you so much! I hope you have an amazing day/evening too 😁💖💖
@noirterror3457
@noirterror3457 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant thank you !!!!
@animescreenpl4226
@animescreenpl4226 2 жыл бұрын
This was a lot of help thanks
@gabrielakubilus8205
@gabrielakubilus8205 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've actually had the idea to make a hero become a villain than again a hero to make them have a redemption arc.
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! I think it would make for a very interesting character development arc
@JNB0723
@JNB0723 Жыл бұрын
Best type of character growth but tough to pull off. Darth Vader is the best example of this comment
@beckhambrooklynpenza1708
@beckhambrooklynpenza1708 5 ай бұрын
A bit late, but it’s extremely hard to pull it off. Fallen Heroes are extremely hard to redeem since they’ve been on both sides and have actively chosen to be on the side of “evil” because they no longer believe in the “good side”. But if you can do it, I’ll be looking forward to read it
@jackmanganmusic
@jackmanganmusic 2 жыл бұрын
You make such great videos! Keep up the amazing work! :)
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy that you're enjoying them! Thank you 😊
@Everythingranger
@Everythingranger 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this because my character starts off hero into villain
@user-lz7gn9gt7b
@user-lz7gn9gt7b 5 ай бұрын
Question: Idk how to write this character. He is a Lion King oc, son of Kiara and Kovu, heir to the throne. Kovu is murdered and here will be some of what I have planned: -Funny and very proud, sometimes mean to brother as a cub -Wrath is his sin -Goal: Revenge against character who killed his father AND the killer's followers. -He believes his family is foolish for not being "heros" or onboard with his ideology. -He is consumed by his hate and anger where he ends up murdering. He feels a little guilt from time to time, but strongly doesn't gaf. -His family tries to get him to the good side
@Ava-dv6it
@Ava-dv6it 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I love your videos and they help me when writing so much. I have a request, How can I write a Manipulative character if you haven’t?
@pengwynn
@pengwynn 2 жыл бұрын
That's the only thing I've been missing, thank you!
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
That's great! Thank you for watching 😊
@ssjgarfield
@ssjgarfield 2 жыл бұрын
Great new video, Midnight I hope I can come up with a story that would require this scenario Keep up the good work and stay safe ;)
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 😊
@emilioprado5513
@emilioprado5513 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh yesss 🖤 thank you so much for this video
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for watching!
@chinasauzoma8035
@chinasauzoma8035 3 ай бұрын
I have a villian that is a capon (leader of a cult grp) that was done wrong by the society but has a cjange of heart when he fights the mc . He even goes to jail and has some redemption too
@deletedOM
@deletedOM Жыл бұрын
Timestamps for myself, you can use if you like tho ^ ^ 0:51 5:53
@cedricburkhart3738
@cedricburkhart3738 2 жыл бұрын
The people who know me have no problem pictureing me as a vilen. But they notec that I'm kind to children. So I think it would be interesting to have a vilen who's kinda to children.
@TheguyfromJurassicpark3
@TheguyfromJurassicpark3 2 жыл бұрын
That's how I'm writing my villain
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
I like that idea too!
@Someone-hi9cm
@Someone-hi9cm 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Any tips on how to write a character who has turned into the thing that they hated?
@midnightgamingwithdarkstar2982
@midnightgamingwithdarkstar2982 2 жыл бұрын
A good video idea is how to pull off a crossover
@m.p.2534
@m.p.2534 Жыл бұрын
One of the best example I can think of would be Eren Yeager, from Attack on Titans (SPOILERS ALERT). He begins as your average shonen protagonist, then ends up as the BIG villain who gain too much powers and starts a genocide because he thinks it's the only way to protect his friends. Ironically, the old villains and old friends of the protagonist have to work and forgive each others to kill Eren at the end.
@headintheclouds6749
@headintheclouds6749 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Midnight, could you do a video on how to write toxic friendships?
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, I will add that to my list!! 😊 That's a good topic idea, and I think it's important to talk about.
@headintheclouds6749
@headintheclouds6749 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross thanks so much!!!
@bgrmoose5997
@bgrmoose5997 Жыл бұрын
This helps a lot, but my question is in my story I’m having the main theme by the end of the story being that there is no good side in war, both think there doing the right thing and think the others are doing the wrong one and I’m trying to make it seem like the perspective it’s told from shifts by the end of the story and I’m curious how you’d do an entire group rather than just a character, maybe I’m overthinking this I don’t know
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross Жыл бұрын
If I were creating a story like this, I would create about eight or more main characters, and have four on one side and four on the other. As I progressed through the story, I would take the time to focus on each character and their perspective. I think a good example of this technique is in the manga '7 Seeds'. It has one of the largest casts I have ever seen in a manga, but they do it very well. 😊
@steviegilliam5685
@steviegilliam5685 2 жыл бұрын
Can it also go back to being a hero or would that throw away the development?
@midnightgamingwithdarkstar2982
@midnightgamingwithdarkstar2982 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you're up to date with my series dark Exorcist I'm almost half way through part 2
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
I will have to check out the latest chapters!! 😊
@midnightgamingwithdarkstar2982
@midnightgamingwithdarkstar2982 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross sweet, the first few manga pages are almost done
@SpydergirlTheDragonFan
@SpydergirlTheDragonFan 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a character if you could give me your thoughts? He's an immortal character due to his healing ability, he's a shapeshifter and had ways to be killed but he got the wrong person mad and those weaknesses were removed. He was experimented on, giving him ice and electric powers, the healing ability, and he's unable to sleep because of nightmares from it. He started out as a hero but slowly turned into a villain, killing enemies and slowly losing care for the lives of good people. He started becoming a better character when he gained a family after adopting kids he rescued from an abusive family, but he still helped both heros and villains when they needed him, at this point he's more of a antihero, now you're probably wondering why he went from antihero to villain, and thats because.. well, he's immortal, he'd had to watch his family and friends die, knowing he'd never be able to see them again. It wore him down, and he started doing everything he could to die, this is when he ticked off the wrong person. My character hadn't known about the ways he could be killed, so he'd tried picking fights in the hopes it would result in his death. It hadn't worked, and had actually done the exact opposite. He then grew angrier and angrier at the world, because they had no idea what he was going through, and went full on homicidal villain, trying to show people a fragment of his pain, along with the hopes someone would kill him just so he'd stop. That hadn't worked so he'd been put into a state of stasis, but a villain decades in the future is going to let him out with the promise that they will kill him if he helps them take over the world...
@reijinvyskra1759
@reijinvyskra1759 2 жыл бұрын
So like Arthas Menethil? The Prince of Lordaeron and the Paladin Light Bringer turned into the Lich King's Death Knight and King of the Scourge of the Fallen Kingdom and became the Lich's Champion?
@arthilleusnemu4272
@arthilleusnemu4272 2 жыл бұрын
Who and from where is the character with the long hair in the thumbnail? Looks interesting
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
He is Griffith from Berserk 😊
@arthilleusnemu4272
@arthilleusnemu4272 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross Ah thanks I'll look into it
@Jerm_Kage
@Jerm_Kage 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't just press this video to scream Griffith I swear!
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
I will scream it, "GRIFFITH!!!!"
@adamikrm
@adamikrm 2 жыл бұрын
is this a same like a impostor character ?because in my story they are one guy who are an imposter among their friends
@velveteenknight3581
@velveteenknight3581 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, an imposter implies they weren't "good" from the beginning, with their reveal showing their true nature
@user-lz7gn9gt7b
@user-lz7gn9gt7b 5 ай бұрын
If in your story, human characters can be infected by an impostor virus???
@nootnootman6353
@nootnootman6353 2 жыл бұрын
Noot noot
@59vibhusharma31
@59vibhusharma31 2 жыл бұрын
Ah my every main character I have done this with every main character of mine
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting to read about character's like this, so I bet your main characters are awesome 😊
@59vibhusharma31
@59vibhusharma31 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross thank you
@59vibhusharma31
@59vibhusharma31 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross How do I overcome procrastination I want to write but I have planned from start to end but I just can't type in my wordprocessor.Hav you faced writer block
@avthendiarie9955
@avthendiarie9955 2 жыл бұрын
Also ma'am you every thought teaching a class
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
I have been considering this, and I might do something like that in the future. 😊
@avthendiarie9955
@avthendiarie9955 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross i mean i would love if you teach manga as teacher thing
@avthendiarie9955
@avthendiarie9955 2 жыл бұрын
Question what if the villain once hero had no choose i ask because i thought making this one guy who was hero to one characters in my idea into a romaian werewolf you their werewolves are usely the undead of a violent person you see the hero name was wicka king wicka you see he was against wars so to keep enemies from attacking his small kingdom he used fear and reason he hero because you see one characters name em who like aunt of the main character live in wicka kingdom for three years she fight side with him it battle you see during those three years wicka and em grow a father daughter like relationship and how die was that one fear gods from Greek want revange on his father ares death and wicka did not want his people suffer so he allowed the god to kill him since he was a child of one who kill ares anyway dose that sound like bad villain from hero character
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this type of character still works as a hero to villain. A character can become a 'villain', even if they had no choice, or did not want to become that way.
@NunchuckKitty
@NunchuckKitty 2 жыл бұрын
Like the black lanterns from DCs Darkest Knight?
@avthendiarie9955
@avthendiarie9955 2 жыл бұрын
@@NunchuckKitty cool i haven't see it but that cool
@docilelikewintercatfish9897
@docilelikewintercatfish9897 2 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to make turn the protagonist into a villain? So one of the villain will be the protagonist ?
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, a protagonist can be a villain! Keep in mind that the protagonist of a story is simply the main character (the character who essentially tells the story.) Therefore, that protagonist can be a good character, or a bad character. I think a good example of this is Death Note, where Light is the protagonist of the story (since he tells the story from his perspective), but he is clearly more of a villain. In that example, L is the antagonist, simply because he is the obstacle in Light's path, even though L is the hero. I hope that makes sense. 😊
@docilelikewintercatfish9897
@docilelikewintercatfish9897 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross i am gonna change the prospective of the story. For example, The main character / protagonist / the hero was doing good work. But slowly he turned into a villain. And the story shifts to an another character. This character was a villain at the beginning of the story but he turned into a good person. Now he is the new main character / protagonist / hero. The story will completely shift & he will be the one to tell the story. Is it ok to change the story prospective like that?
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
@@docilelikewintercatfish9897 Yes, changing the perspective is perfectly fine. I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. 😊 To answer your question in simple terms, yes, the protagonist can become a villain. And in the way you describe it, I think it would work really well!
@docilelikewintercatfish9897
@docilelikewintercatfish9897 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross thank you very much
@JordisGod
@JordisGod 2 жыл бұрын
Attack on titan, Eren
@poppersperi842
@poppersperi842 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone
@NunchuckKitty
@NunchuckKitty 2 жыл бұрын
How many people here actually write manga?
@katiel.8174
@katiel.8174 2 жыл бұрын
EREN JEAGER 😂
@nactrumofficial5450
@nactrumofficial5450 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please not speed up your speaking, especially towards the end of your videos? When you start speed-talking, everything you say runs together and becomes unintelligible.
@midnightXcross
@midnightXcross 2 жыл бұрын
Aw I'm sorry! When I get excited about a topic, I tend to talk faster. I will try and talk slower in future videos 🙏
@nactrumofficial5450
@nactrumofficial5450 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnightXcross I didn't mean to come across as harsh as I may have sounded, so I apologize, sweetie. I understand getting excited, especially when it's something you're passionate about.
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