Hi Tom!

Reduce the educational gap between boys and men compared to Girls and Women. Doing nothing about this situation is not working. Displaying indifference is not acceptable.

Men and boys know that college costs more than their potential future income. As such, it isn't worth doing. Likewise, if I never marry or have kids, I can get by on a lot less.

You've seen a drop in violent behavior because of p*rn and video games that drop will reverse as more men like me become disinterested in both and instead get interested in this, these are my observations but i think sedation is over, this Incel movement the Pills the suppositories whatever they are, are the result of this, they are waking up.

Try being Cluster B. Society will go out of your way to make you miserable

The battle of the sexes has been going on for a long time. And men in this nation have grown weary of the fight. Since women have decided to bad mouth their mates, the male children avoid marriage like it's the plague. This has really escalated in the last ten years or so. Young men don't think they need the headache any longer. It's hard for most males to be attracted to vicious females. I could understand this if they had been divorced, but many of the young girls today that have never been married. It's easier just check out of the dating game than to try to appease a woman these days.

@@jameslee-dp6cb I have always thought that one of the conditions of a divorce should be a written agreement that neither the man or woman will defame (bad mouth) the other in front of the children. It is devastating to the psychology of the child.

@@jameslee-dp6cb The problem with men these days has nothing to do with women. Men aren't present in their children's lives because of their own choices. The men are choosing to not be present. Men need to start supporting each other and their children if they want to make any changes and stop blaming women, who really have nothing to do with the problem.

This is why we had slavery and war at the same time of polygyny. Men would, at any cost, gather resources.

People would rather create a boogie man to blame because it means they will never have to take responsibility for their own actions, failures, personality etc. The problem with the boogieman is that its so vague and has no proof of existence that they can use it as a way to always avoid accountability.

Lmao 😂

Modern society in a nut shell. Not just on this topic

There really isnt anything else you can tell males except "sucks to suck man, women outperform males in literally everything so society doesn't need you anymore." It's just the unfortunate reality of the world we live in.

It is pretty disappointing. They never have anything to say because there is nothing men can do to fix this situation. God forbid there is a serious discussion on whether the newfound ability women have to maximize their mate preferences (~30% of young men) is good for society... It is depressing that, despite women not having to enter a marriage for necessity, they still require men to be equal or higher status. That's why the only advice for men now is to status strive even more to meet the new standard, or try to make yourself top 20% in attractiveness. It's obvious this solution can't work for the majority of men. I don't think people should be forced in relationships that make them unhappy just for the betterment of society. But this problem can't continue to be laid solely at the feet of men if there is any real intention of fixing it

I don’t even know what to tell young men about what they should be doing .. I’m talking about the average guy - without going the family route what is there for them? People like Reeves have no Answer

What do you mean when you say it’s not a good time for men to be alive/no one knows what to do with you? You can get married or not. Get a job or establish a career. Build a business. Have kids and stay home with them. Or don’t. Work 60 hours a week. Adopt kids or stay single. Anything you want. You can even marry a traditional woman, have kids with her, work full time, and have an apparently happy life like we think our grandparents did. What, specifically, are you looking for that you “no longer” have?

@@jahbern This is a huge topic and it's not possible to have a meaningful discussion here in comments. The most concise response I can offer is that the traditional suggestions you mention about marriage, family and career have changed and are no longer working for contemporary men as they did in previous generations. Yes, they are still possible but the socio-economic challenges the men face are greater than before and many men are not coping well at all while at the same time being further challenged by an anti-masculine culture. Men are failing badly and are being shamed for reasons outside their control. Suicide rates have been rising at alarming rates as well as drug overdoses that are at epidemic levels. What we have is a stack of bodies that is quietly and quickly being buried before anyone notices. I think that generally frames the issue, but this explanation is unable to go much farther in this space.

You're joking right? He's an intellectual midget who babbles with tangential thinking.

What integrity ? He didn't challenge any of Richards blatant lies. He is accepting everything like a young Pelican :-)

To my thinking, he’s talking the way someone with employees would talk.

@@piureczko Pretty much, i stopped taking him seriously once he mentioned feminism there done not interested.

While simultaneously hearing society and women say I don't need a man, men are trash, getting divorced raped, men are the cause of all the problems in the world, etc.

Lol as a white person no one has to tell us “white power” because it’s obvious

Men never receive praise and compliments. When we do we are truly perplexed.

Also the whole "black power" movement, lmao. Imagine if there were a "white power" movement lmao. For the record I think some of the black empowerment movement is good, like the valuing financial literacy part, it's just this isn't really mainstream, most of the mainstream stuff is just racist anti white propaganda.

Yah the Boysss I say that all the time playing games 😂

Humans are just selfish by nature. Look at Cain & Abel. I mean, look at God. He says he is a jealous God. So by design were f'ed. Just live your life to its fulfilment and try not to get caught up in rationalizing things that won't ever change.

Truth! You nailed it.

Hahahaha… your poor thing!

Mimimi

They're trying to make sure they aren't called misogynistic. And they have listed positive traits of masculinity. Heck, Richard Reeves said his wife complained he wasn't being masculine enough.

Great post

... But they are trying to save the world by _smashing the patriarchy._ 😅

​@@andrewsmith3257not really

So you're just a slave for other people

there are plenty of women interested in and working on improving the world. making generalisations and having negative expectations of any group, will mean you don't see the opposite of what you want to believe. What you see in the world won't change until you change your mind, which I doubt you will, but just know that you are the one projecting your expectations on others. I would highly recommend finding a good and affordable therapist to work through some of your hangups, if you want to make any progress. You seem to have some common cognitive distortions, which are making your life harder than it needs to be. I say this as someone that was chronically depressed for 20+ of my life, since childhood, and someone that had massive anger towards the world and the opposite gender. you have to change your outlook, and allow yourself to see good in yourself and others, if you want anything to be different. I wish you good luck.

Yeah you modern ladies are basically children all the way through. Zero understanding of men or the world around you. Your lives are nerfed all the way through.

Good for you! While society is crumbling, you will be happy last spectator!

Don’t divorce him if you don’t feel justified or your just feeling different

That is not easy or perhaps possible to solve when men and women are actually competing with each other... men retreating from society, is a way to avoid that competition, i dont think men were wired to compete with women

If you’re competing for work with women they are your competition.

He did, though. It's just not the focus of the video.

It not just young men anymore either.

This is quite true

Exactly 💯

Why not be her equal partner, lover and companion?

haha indeed

I've seen this situation all too much. Your hard earned money is just her extra spending cash for purses etc

She married a doctor and still got money from you? Even though alimony ends when you remarry?

Why are you sending a check unless there are children involved?

Is that even a question? 98% of everything that surrounds you has been created or constructed by men.

The fact that people really ask this question blows my fucking mind.

‘Are men necessary “ is the dumbest question ever asked and doesn’t even deserve and answer.

@@danielkeenan1984 the widespread phenomena of it even being asked is an omen in and of itself

@@Luke_MoonWalker Oh well… you may have built the cities but without women giving birth to builders there wouldn’t be much to brag about!

Wait unti multiple generations of boys have to grow up to be adults that have been shunned for being a gender. We're in for very hard societal time

That was very well said. It means a lot that there are level headed women like you, who see the huge disconnect between the professed aims of feminism and what is actually happening in our society. The professed aim of feminism was to live in a more meritocratic society, where women are valued for their accomplishments, without regard to their gender. Instead, women are valued for their gender, and their efforts are deemed superior as a result of their gender.

Totally agree: as a woman and as a mother of a son. This development emasculated not only boys, it made women drastically less feminine, which is sad. BTW, I’m a structural engineer and have a successful and well compensated career in construction. Never used my “minority” status-never had the need. Let boys be strong men, and let girls be strong in their softness.

Oh give me a break! Men are still raping girls and being let off because it would be “wrong to ruin his life over this”. The impact to women is unimportant. This backlash against women getting equality is some of the biggest bullshit I’ve ever seen.

As a woman (no sons, but four brothers) I agree 100%. Also, best of luck with seven sons! Quite the blessing

Most of those statistics are made up by a right wing media personality. What kids need is stability. That is easier with a two parent house hold. The key is two parents. It doesn't have to be man. It is the stability that children crave. Crave may be the wrong word. For them to be whole they need stability. The father meme was made up to frightened people about lesbian couples raising boys. The problem is the stats on that prove the anti lesbian thing was completely wrong.

You wouldn't, you shouldn't, don't do it, look harder, maybe be a better man & attract better women.

"Saying humanity is polygamous is very misleading." Agreed, what they state here makes no sense when I look back at my dating history. Most of the women i was with were protective of me (slightly jelous) while others were really jelous and would go through my phone often. Why would someone do this if they are only looking for the top man? im not the top man, she could certainly do better if she were willing to be wife 2 or 5 from some rich guy. A lot of what is in the red pill is complete bullshit, there is some truth to what they state but having to sift through the demoralizing falsities is taxing.

I find poly are usually younger women still getting the Heaux phase out of the system.

What he said was .. the data we have available shows .. that's an interesting observation .. what does it mean, how is that possibly true? Some questions to pursue? Nah let's just declare it bs based on our anecdotal experience! Wow, brilliant, how can I follow you? I think you should lead.

@@chrisfreebairn870 It s not anecdotal experience... just fucking google it, and you would know he is of the mark here, the truth is much more complex. Also monogamy was around in societies as the norm way before Christianity was ever a thing. Ancient Greece and Rome and the Hitites and such... are good examples of that.

You misunderstand. Men seek women, woman can live with or without a man but will do a lot for their children. So a woman can have a poor abusive man or a rich abusive man too busy to meet out abuse and even when he has time, has multiple women to meet it out against. At the same time one woman is scrounging for food to feed her children, the second, she has a roof, maybe servants and security. For men, having access to multiple women is ideal, even if she's not pretty, you don't like her personality etc. Just having sexual access does q lot for the ego. And most polygnous men have a 'favourite' wife. So in a world where love doesn't matter polygamy wins, every time.

Yes, as there is more men falling behind the bigger this trend is going to be.

Women divorce men that don't love them the way they need to be loved. Women don't marry men they see as useless. Both men and women are hypergamous. Hypergamy is not money. It's what is the best trait for genetic survival. For some women that's love and many will give up money for a loving relationship. You're just not genetically viable on multiple levels - it's not just money.

Women still want marriage just not to men who are dead weight, which almost all of them are these days.

The unusual equality of women ends, when the military stops working and civilization collapses. All discussions will end very quickly.

The statement is manifestation of toxic femininity. While men still allow this experiment to run, at the moment it becomes the suicide, it will be stopped. The actual problem is that females just ride along and don’t take responsibility for their own bad behavior or bad behavior of their sisters. Boys WILL burn the village and men will not stop it. So, why females don’t even attempt to stop it?

Women have to start paying for their mistakes or we’ll continue living in clown world

It's too late for conversations to matter. Things are going to get really bad; the consequences haven't even started to manifest.

Has nothing to do with the statement but the Framing/Lense of Richard. "Angry man is Bad and Dangerous", for women/society but more importantly bad for book sales hahahaha

​@@willzill538 yes, & plenty of ppl reacting badly & immediately is what drives the commercial outcome.

​@@willzill538 He demonstrates that he has no clue what he is talking about when he says that Anger is bad, but i also stopped taking what he says seriously when he said feminism = good at that point we are done talking about objective reality and enter into his narcsisstic fantasies and delusions.

@@upsetforever7643 In many places, it's a crime to yell at your partner. Crying is good and therapeutic, and men should do it more often. This being dogma among psychologists is why I can't get help through psychotherapy.

Yes that is very relatable.

change your mom 😆🤣

My dad wasn't supportive of me that much, and my mom still won't allow me to finish a sentence. My dad passed away in 2012, but mom is still going. At 84 years of age she still drives and does everything she use to do although she does it slower. The difference between my dad and mom was that my mom was involved heavily in her church while my dad almost never went to church. My dad always seemed to want to wander and my mom was very stressed over it when she was younger. As you might imagine, they divorced later and each remarried, but by then, I was grown and out of the house. It's funny how our parents seem to shape us in ways we don't spend a lot of time thinking about.

Leave no place for the average man in society and they will tear it down, after all they built it and maintain it.

@@levansegnaro4637they need to naw on sheet metal 🤷🏾‍♀️

today's narrative in western countries is 1) anti white racist 2) misandric. It's specifically against what you wrote: "straight white males." That's the reality.

Nobody cares about us men so we learn to take care of ourselves and often love and die alone unfortunately. This is Not what God intended when he created a woman. 🙏 God help us so that men and women can once again connect all of them as you intended. Men and women need each other that's how we're created. Yin and yang ☯️

I'm a decade older than a half century who has had many jobs, and professional roles, and have never experienced what you are talking about. The most repression I've experienced in my life has been at the hands of toxic alpha males, every single time.

@@flickwtchr Things have changed

@@flickwtchr sheltered, in a way

Well, yeah. Women feel the same way. A partner has to have something to offer - whether it’s emotional support or financial responsibility or just companionship. Have something to offer. Be the kind of person the person you’re looking for wants. If no one wants you…try being the person someone wants.

I wouldnt put my hands in the fire for it. probably not, but we never know, culture changes and shifts all the time, and cultures get replaced all the time historically. We just assuming it is ours is the better one, or that is ours that going to do the replacing, and become dominant... we actually dont know that.

It will soon and it will be fun to watch :-)

"Time to redefine all these ‘roles’" redefine roles? what that even mean, just live your live and wait for some society approval?

@@piureczko Yea i like gore and raw chaos as well :D

No, it won't be a separation. It will be destruction.

Your entire reply is based on establishment indoctrination. The system programs everyone to be system slaves. The few that rebel and find their own way are the ones who are happiest and enjoy the most success. The vast majority simply go along with the herd because it is easier and they are heavily programmed to comply & conform. Any guy can self generate the income he needs to live the life he wants- if he has the courage to get started and is ready to put in the work. The guys that choose the "easy" path end up miserable, broke and without freedom or options.

You are right, and I'm pretty sure the feminist movement was funded for women to get into the work force because of inflation

Amen 🙏

Am a woman. Not true. I own my home and live very well single.

​@@jfaustin1742 That's the problem. Too many women want what you got instead of a family. But most women and men would be much happier in a successful relationship and family. But instead it's like everyone just lives and dies alone now. As a man who has always wanted a family and had one in the past this is very upsetting and challenging to even find a partner with all these collage educated masculine women out here today. Those in long term relationships also tend to live healthier and longer God help us. 🙏

Women want an equal partner and companionship with their husbands. Men just want a sex slave, a mommy and a maid. Woman listen to the way men talk about us, their wives specifically. Men don't even seem to like women, not even their wives. It's pretty heart-breaking.

I've experienced a LOT more repression from toxic alpha male "political correctness" than any other cultural trend. It is hilarious how these men bemoaning diminishing patriarchy are whining about being victims. It's actually pretty pathetic. Man up!

@@flickwtchr radfems like you don't understand society. it's not a patriarchy, it's a monarchy and they choose the leaders via male preference so it is usually headed by a patriarch, but patriarchy as you know it doesn't exist and it never really did, not in the way you imagine it. It was all about ecological pressures, and not about treating men better.

@@Pistolita221 Or women worse plus the whole concept of slavery and owning another human came as economic concept specifically the loan repayment if feminists bothered to read a book that is not fantastical delusions of their cult members they would known this, i'm glad that feminism lasted for so long it has survived enough to become a villain with any good intentions of the first wave (if there were any i'm doubting that as well at this point) are taken out by the second, third...etc

@@upsetforever7643 imo the 2nd wave was the best wave of feminism. First wave had actually violent radicals, 2nd wave got a lot of stuff done and wasn't violent, and 3rd/4th wave are pretty much just anti-male for the most part.

@@Pistolita221 First one had casus belli the second and all the other ones after first did not, all the things "second wave" was "fighting" for already existed in law what they wanted were privileges not equality they are the creators of the entitlement in third, fourth,...etc waves the very designers of this era stupid illiterates with no capacity for reason, and critical thinking that think they are smart, well read, rational critical thinkers, pretentious good for nothings that deserve the fate they are going to get, and if you ask me i think they got off too easy.

Most women dont have sex on their brain.

What if i told you, they always had?

Yelling is considered abuse. Crying, no matter the cause or motivation, is seen as good and useful. That says a lot about whose behaviors are more acceptable.

All the aspects on men you described are ones wealthy enough to afford a wife. Especially the bankers

boys tend to be more physically expressive than girls. imo, the best way to deal with it is to encourage them to find a healthy outlet and learn proper discipline (which is a very difficult/impossible thing to teach, breathing exercises are good start, though), because repression is very rarely ideal.

​@@Pistolita221He said in the video boys are like dogs, you gotta take them outside to run out their energy.

Richard is a great advocate.

@@nyw4764 I feel so sorry for you

​@Ny W you have no idea what tossing salads means do you? 😂😂😂

​​@Ny W I'd love to hear your description of how patriarchy flooded the world with unnecessary men; kinda sounds like a total refutation of biology to me; maybe a reverse China one child policy will sort it - you know, male infanticide. Looking forward to your response ........

​@@stacyliddell5038 me neither, assuning it's not get back in the kitchen - what does it mean?

Sharing? That word implies ownership. And I refuse to ascribe to the idea of owning my partner. I see my partner as a human, with needs and wants that at times might be removed from my needs and wants and here is where agency comes into play.

@@lidiarona4335 So you do not value monogamy?

@@alphacause I do not value being considered chattel

@@lidiarona4335 How is expecting monogamy from your partner demeaning?

@@alphacause you don't get the point.

Exactly!!

When you mean toe to toe, you mean controlling, nagging wife? yes men are not into that.

@@knightheaven8992 That is not what I mean. I mean you want to do something and you have to convince her not tell her. Most guys are too sensitive to convince. They need a passive woman that they can control. It seems like a boring life.

@@mikeoveli1028 Maybe when feminism is gone and stops turning women into caricature of men they invented maybe then we can have negotiations but as it stands these anti-social, promiscuous, angry, defiant contumacious, narcissistic/borderline psychopathic women are not interested in that.

It's too late.

that's your takeaway? whatabout...

Women weren't allowed to go to Harvard untill the 1960s. Women weren't allowed to have bank accounts or get loans till the 1960s. Women weren't allowed to go to the doctors on their own untill the 1960s. Schools for these reasons would gear women to become house ornaments from a young age as they'd need to be truly exceptional to make it in a world that had laws making it hard for them to be independent. Now we have equality law where women have the same life opportunities as men. Teachers now see value in giving girls the same time and resource as boys. That's what they mean by taking off the breaks.

@@steph6109 No, schools give girls MORE time and resource. That’s why they get better grades, despite IQ parity. Boys are persona non grata in public schools, easily slipping through the cracks of a system laser-focused on girls. Girls get more scholarships, college degrees and tax breaks on starting businesses. It’s why boys struggle in reading and writing, and account for the vast majority of high school dropouts, suicides, criminal behavior and homelessness. And the vast majority of shelters are for women. It’s astonishing how young people use their distorted views of history to justify excesses of the present. But next time you try it, be sure you aren’t talking to someone who lived through those times. “Not allowed” by whom? My mother had a career in the mid-1940s and, magically, managed to drive to the doctor by herself without ending up in jail. The point you’re making I actually agree with - always have. Everybody should have equal opportunity to succeed in this country. But that’s not what we have now. Remember that for every person who is given a preference, someone else is denied basic equality.

@@graymatters7584 Girls have better grades because they spend more time studying and doing their homework. Girls raised their hands more to ask questions and ask teachers for help more if they struggle because unlike boys, they have no fear of apparent weakness. That is the reason why girls perform better at school, as well as girls being more mature in the school years. This is not a systematic oppression like men were doing to women in the past at all, not even remotely close.

I'm a woman and I agree. Also, I'm a 50-year-old woman going through menopause and I wish women would talk more about what we go through during menopause. I'm so glad I'm out of the workforce the last few years because I don't know how women even stay in the workforce at my age. Menopause does a number on our bodies and how we feel overall. So I'm probably the rare woman who actually thinks that we should be taking care of things at home while men are bringing in the income. Or more women actually do think this way but don't want to say it out loud.

The inventions, information and labor that allowed feminism to flourish could not have existed without the ingenuity of men. Any talk of parity between the sexes could only exist because an infrastructure was put in place that nullified the natural advantages that men have over women. This modern infrastructure is the product of mostly male effort and innovation.

Facts! The whole conversation they talk about any disadvantage to women as an obvious example of oppression and any disadvantage to men as trivial

@@notch76 It's insane, this discussion does nothing besides driving a wedge between men and women. The statement "are men needed" or anything of the like should be treated as it is hate and misandry. Just as the opposite is misogony.

@@SquarishLink 100% agree! Emasculation and misandry has been effectively integrated into western culture. It's a complete slap in the face then they wonder why young men lack the motivation to achieve.

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Spot on bro. This also applies to something like music. Engineers, nurses, and doctors are infinitely more valuable than rappers lol but music artists have a massive audience/demographic and selling a product scales better than selling a service; Just by the structure and the nature of their business, their earning potential is greater. As you said, it's not a matter of the work being valuable or not. It's not that simple.

Rule of thumb is to stop listening to people once they equate feminism with good because at that point we have removed ourselves from observable objective reality and entered into narcissistic dream world of fantasies and delusions.

Even so, there is such a thing as pricing yourself out of the market. And many businesses did that in 2022. I think we may be headed for depression. Farmers watch out, females will have you in their sights. They know that food is the basis on which we get our energy, they already have all the money.😆

Sure, but that organic process is a battle, & those that say this are battling to get there too, using whatever power levers they have - leadership is politics, otherwise the brutes would lead; one needs supporters to lead, & to sustain them to continue to lead .. ie politics. In social higher animals leadership is politics.

And as for optimisation .. that's a theoretical economic concept, useful as a thinking or verbal tool, not so much as a descriptor of nature. Is it optimal for the giraffes vagus nerve to be 10 M long? No; it just happens that in fish that nerve goes under the aorta .. natural systems make do with what they start with; & they don't make the best, they make something that works well enough to get through the day, then the next day; over time that creates what looks optimal, but time is a bitch, things change .. anaerobes optimised, until algae, dinosaurs, until .. boom, ... Nature is more of a shotgun than a sniper.

You could partner up with a female friend and get the same outcome. If its just about splitting bills.

One can say the same about the husband being very strong, say a senior police officer but wife being stronger, say a commando or a marine. Husband is still contributing in making his family, community and country strong. His wife might be more qualified as a protector but he still is also very qualified, even if less than his wife. One can also say the same if husband is very powerful, a mayor of a state's capital and wife being more powerful, say the governor of that state. Husband is less powerful than his wife but still contributes in making his family very powerful and reputed. And in finances too, if husband earns well, he contributes to his family's finances even if he earns far less than his wife. His wife might be more qualified as a provider but he still is also very qualified, even if less than his wife. Yes but you, the wife, would still be the primary provider and he would only be a secondary also contributed. And if this bothers him as a man, it's not wrong, rather desirable. It's wrong only if he wants to bring you down so that he can disillusion himself and others that he is the primary provider. In certain contexts and on certain occasions, even a mouse can protect a lion. But largely only a lion has the competence of being a protector of a mouse (intent aside) and not vice versa. The stronger one is the protector and the weaker one is under protection. Similarly the one who earns more is the provider and the one who earns less is the provided for, at least in relative terms (even if standalone and in isolation that earning is good enough to provide). Agree that 60K is also a contribution but so is $0, since one can contribute in household in non-economic ways. Manhood or masculinity is not an absolute switch bulb attribute but a relative term. To be a husband and not just a life partner or spouse, the husband to qualify as a husband, needs to be more competent in the masculine or manly role than at least his wife, the manly role being of provider and protector. So to be a spouse, being a good human being, being loving and caring, contribute in some way is good enough. But to qualify as a wife, one needs to be better than her husband in homemaking and housekeeping. And to qualify as a husband, one needs to be better than his wife in providing and protecting. If not, the man becomes the wife and the woman becomes the husband. And it should hurt a man to not qualify as a husband. A man being fine with just being a spouse or being a wife and not a husband, is a man without any male ego and masculine pride. Now am I saying that in such a situation, the man should turn bitter and resent the wife's success, try to keep her back, or expect the wife to stroke his ego by voluntarily bringing herself down, so he appears as a qualified husband to the world? Or be insecure that his wife would leave him for someone better? Absolutely no! That would be becoming a bad spouse in pursuit of being a husband and becoming inhuman in pursuit of being a man. Moreover, receiving something one is not qualified for as a favour like a father deliberately losing to their kids to make them feel better, is something no self-respecting adult would like. So what do I recommend to men? It's simple. Try to work on yourself to increase competence so you become qualified as your wife's husband, without being so obsessed with this pursuit that you de-prioritize your spousal duties. Now what to do if this is not possible without compromising spousal duties for a long term? In that case, admit and accept the next best thing, that is, try to be the best spouse that you can be and see if you can take up some of the wifey roles. However, what I don't recommend doing is what feminists and gender equalists want. Re-define masculinity, manhood, husband and role of a man in a matrimony so he can feel like a husband and a man without playing the traditional role of a man or a husband. And am I saying that women should loose all respect for her husband in such a case? One because, this is only one aspect and not everything. And he might still be awesome as a life partner, just with some deficiency innhusband role. And what if he is not even that, is it ok to lose respect and love for him then? Again no, because that's very unwomanly and inhuman too. Once you have already created a strong spousal bond with someone, how can you stop loving that person start disrespecting that person leave that person on the basis of utility? A very competent person might lose competence due to life circumstances and eventually at old age most of the people lose most of it anyways. So your love, care and respect should be there anyways. But what's not right is to do what feminists and gender equalists do. Tell a man that he should not feel less of a man if he isn't the primary provider and protector. That this is wrong to feel that way because it's coming from the wrong traditional understanding of manhood and a man's role in household due to opressing patriarchal stereotypes. Because that is shaming a man for his natural, biological, innate traits, desires and sense of self-worth, calling it as all because of wrong social conditioning. Don't shame him for his lower competence than you but also don't shame him for feeling ashamed, embarrassed and inadequate about it by taunting him on his 'fragile male ego' and 'wrong social conditioning'.

god, i love intelligent articulation on an extremely interesting topic, well said, well understood.

On a side note, the whole self compassion movement doesn't seem to help young men either. I don't think we respond to it, like it doesn't do anything for us, at least for me. Or maybe it's because a different type of self compassion is needed, I'm not sure.

@@DoubleOhSilver I agree, men need different things than women, our modern psychotherapy is oriented towards the female, 5% of

​@@DoubleOhSilver It is always a balance. There has to be self care or it doesn't matter. You can achieve at work You can have a trophy wife and kids. If you got their by force it won't satisfy you. I have tried force and compassion. It seems if I force it, it doesn't stick.

​@@DoubleOhSilver There is a great men's group that is called Mankind Project. I spent many years with them. As they say men need men to learn from and to grieve with. That is certainly not a quote but it is close. They are in every state. There is a cost for the weekend initiation but you can get financial aid with them. It is less than $1000 dollars. They have support groups that were very helpful when my mother died. She had been an abuser of mine and I had many mixed feeling. It was also instrumental when my business crashed in the 2008 crash. I really don't know if I could have made it through without them. There is also a lot of crazy videos about them that are not true. Just Google mankind project.

Thank you. This men vs women narrative is so basic

I see many dating profiles that say if you support Trump don't message me or if your republican we won't get along. I mean c'mon we can't create a family because you believe in the Biden Regime? That's not really a person I'm willing to date if they are that selfish. It's almost as bad as the list most women have today that keeps them single and alone. We need to go back to just going out on a date with no expectations just two going out to have fun. But now most men never even get the first date because of the crappy men she chose before you now you will never get a shot. 🙄 .

Who is driving this strategy & why?

Lifetime job that can be replaced by simple robot is not an achievement. Status doesn't matter much to women but your ability to get what you want out of life, to learn, to innovate, to multitask and work together for a common goal....

@@steph6109 All evidence to the contrary

@@steph6109. “Status doesn’t matter much to women” What?!?! That is an absurd comment.

Also with foreign buyers. Housing costs the most in international cities.

Let's put it in other words: Nowadays more woman has to work to earn a living ... Great achievement !

He is saying that, that modern society does now provide most of what older society's needed men for, with the exception of the male input in child rearing - the state can't do that very well. What he is saying is that culture must evolve to deal with the fact that men are not as necessary as they once were, that this is one of the key roles of culture, but that the politicization of this cultural evolution as a war is a dangerous thing, bc it is blocking the evolution of positive solutions for the dispirited male problem. If one does the math, it's pretty easy to show that without the male contribution to making stuff, keeping stuff working & paying taxes, a very large portion of the welfare state which makes men superfluous, would rapidly eat the economy. The superfluous male concept is a very very narrow analysis, it's the type of total bs that highly educated & powerful women might propose. How in any way can it be taken seriously? This bs anti male culture just needs to take a reality pill, to see what is real & stop trashing the male contribution. It's still there, it's just being trashed bc women think they have to defeat men to get a fair shot; a not unreasonable idea, given the resistance to them getting a fair shot. That defeating men is not a good strategy, if it also demoralises & kills our sons, is becoming apparent. That will drive cultural change, if it is allowed to occur. This is why the culture war needs to be seen to be very dangerous if the politicians are allowed to weaponise it. But it is a war, in the sense that positive definitions of progress must be hashed out; and a bunch of issues are being thrown into this hot pot, not least of which is broad dissatisfaction with the power balance - between capital & labor, which equates to income & educational disparity, hence the attack on institutions, on elites etc; these are just proxies of power. This is what tRump & De Santis have figured out & weaponised; that 'the status quo is just not fair' is a powerful feeling in society, hence a political force that can be harnessed; trumps whining can be reduced to - "It's just not fair to we little ppl" - see how he strives to make the threat about everyone, not just him, that's to disguise that he's not one of them, but represents them. In this sense the far left is on the same team, fighting the same battle, using the same tactics; they battle powerlessness too, & trash anything that represents the forces they see as responsible for that - racism sexism, homophobia, patriarchy etc. The battle is about a fair share of the spoils of success. In the past, after a battle, there'd be booty - the spoils of war; if powerful groups that helped win the battle didn't get a fair share of the spoils .. if they were will armed & organised they threatened havoc, & got their share; new conflicts erupted as powerful groups disputed the sharing formula. Globalisation is the bogey man - why? Because it's delivered great wealth to some & deprived millions of the decent life they had before. It's that simple. It is about power, the power to get a fair share of the spoils of success. And the wise old model of 'share lest there be revolution' seems unlearned.

@@martinpatrick8964 point is it is "technically" possible now

Yeah the plot twist of all of this, is that women do need men, and men do also need other men, and i was going to say society... but not really it is more like Civilization itself needs men. Either men are doing the mad max thing or just retreating, the end result is similar.

Men were basically allowed to be pretty awful back then.

I agree completely, I refuse to believe the vast majority of women agree with the "fish bicycle" statement or anything similar (women dont need men). I believe both need eachother and what our society is doing is clearly wrong and will only create lonely and isolated people. Its not healthy or right.

He didn't say women did this, he said some specific feminists and women contributed. But I get it #notallwomen, it's stinky feeling when your demo is getting criticized. I am VERY familiar with that feeling.