How to turn your Mig Welder into a Tig Welder (PrimeWeld)

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3 жыл бұрын

in this video we go over two different ways to convert your mig welder into a tig welder.
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@lisakingscott7729 Жыл бұрын

This will not give as good results as welders with the appropriate functions, but your results look surprisingly good. The difference between a TIG and MIG power supply is that TIG is constant current and MIG is constant voltage. I discovered this years ago when I bought a MIG spool gun and connected it to my TIG inverter, i.e. the opposite of this video. The TIG constant current would blow the MIG wire away each time it struck an arc. When I turned the current down, the wire would just keep sticking. Maybe TIG welding on constant voltage is easier than MIG on constant current though. TIG inverters are really cheap these days, although high voltage start makes it SO much easier. I bought a cheap high voltage start unit for my TIG inverter which makes starting so much easier than scratch start.

@nickrudd2568 2 жыл бұрын

Ive done the conversion to my Mig to Tig using the Tig tourch set up but im yet to use it due to a house move. good to see it works. Now i need to get some Argon and bring the rest of my kit over and get chassis building.

@fatroberto3012 4 ай бұрын

I'm impressed with your second results. I wasn't sure it could be done without a foot pedal to control the current. I've only ever done TIG on a ridiculously expensive set at work but I might give this a go. (I just like the way TIG welds look! Childish I know.)

@ChatGPT1111 3 жыл бұрын

Much easier than I thought, thanks!

@williamjames3304 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea, I think I can do this with my Lincoln 140.

@VG-rj8pn Ай бұрын

So far you're doing good

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a great idea, if you don't have a Tig Welding machine. The downside ?? Not much fun Tig Welding with a Mig gun ?? ( most have enough trouble welding with a Tig torch, lol ) Still great information to share.

@Banshee350speed Жыл бұрын

Learn something new every day 👍😀 Good job

@brentsmith5647 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video thank u 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@the_legend3185 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't that machine do stick as well? If your using the tig torch you can put it in stick mode and just adjust the amps that way instead of adjusting wire speed and voltage.

@sirob584 8 ай бұрын

Think this would work with the harbor freight titanium 140?

@VG-rj8pn Ай бұрын

Can't hit a like button till we know we like it

@amcustomfab 6 күн бұрын

Totally fair

@bottomofthemap696 2 жыл бұрын

Eh, I like walking the cup more than anything, so I would definitely go with the second choice.

@ACDesignsGarage 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool man!!!!!!!

@katrosper Жыл бұрын

thank you

@jackbrimstone1004 3 жыл бұрын

Highly expected my friend good videos

@kkkoranyattiy8490 2 жыл бұрын

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@officialWWM Жыл бұрын

That’s some real MGyver shit right there!

@amcustomfab Жыл бұрын

🙏😎

@ferincr 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, great video and idea. I'm in the market for a welder and I'm in a bit of a dilemma because here where I live availability of gas purchase for the hobbyist is not easy (or affordable) so since I'm interested in being able to weld aluminum and also SS (plus mild steel) it would be 3 different gases so I kind of discarded this machine. I was looking into the MTS200 so I can add a spoolgun for alu MIG (with argon) and use the same gas for TIG SS. Sorry for the long story... my question is how thin SS can you TIG with this "hack" using the TIG torch? Thanks.

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

Probably 1/8" ..

@frigginpos 3 жыл бұрын

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@amcustomfab 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@justinshields4216 3 жыл бұрын

Cool trick! I'd think that'll lower duty cycle significantly or no?

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

The Duty Cycle is something you would definitely need to consider if using a lower ampage machine for long periods. But Most people welding with lower ampage machines would not be welding huge structures. 👍

@therookiefisherman5234 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, I wonder can you tig aluminum?

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

This only works on DC current

@therookiefisherman5234 2 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab so I can weld with the spool Gun only gotcha thanks.

@jesserasso1042 2 жыл бұрын

A where did you get those collets at cause mine are too big

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

#20 torch collet

@tbip2001 2 жыл бұрын

Why does the tungsten become live ? On a mig i can touch my wire on to the weld surface without it going live until I squeeze the trigger. Why does putting a tungsten into the end change this?

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

Because when your MIG welding you're not on MMA or stick welding mode. When you switch to stick welding mode the lead is live the entire time and it's not determined by the trigger. 😎

@Gerben972 3 жыл бұрын

I wanna try the scratch tig with my mig welder one day. One thing I don't get is why all those torches have a knob for the shielding gas. I would assume that it shouldn't be too hard to put an electrical valve somewhere near the flow regulator, which could be activated by a button on the tig torch. Would like to hear your thoughts on this.

@amcustomfab 3 жыл бұрын

You're correct you could absolutely rig something up like that in fact I did a video where I did something similar to that for purging stainless

@amcustomfab 3 жыл бұрын

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@Gerben972 3 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab will check it out. Thanks

@weldmachine 3 жыл бұрын

Generally the button you are talking about is only for HF (high frequency) start. The knob is very common if using a scratch start Tig torch. ( but this is something you might already know ?? ) You could set something up like you've mentioned ? But i never seen anyone bother with the hassle of doing this. Each to there own. 👍

@Gerben972 3 жыл бұрын

@@weldmachine yeah I know that. Just seems a hassle with the knob style. But then again, I never used that style of torch so I may come to another conclusion when I do.

@scottydntno 2 жыл бұрын

Can it be done with a Lincoln 140HD??

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

🤷

@fishhuntadventure Жыл бұрын

Ooops. Wrong vid I guess:) I want to put a spool gun on my Primeweld TiG 225- it already has the right gas so neither my fluxcore machine nor the MiG need to get unsetup or play musical tanks. Gave it a like anyways :)

@mpjcv 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, would this conversion work if you would tig aluminum to aluminum please? Thanks!

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

No sorry this will not work for aluminum

@djwillx974 2 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab why does it not work please ?

@jeannieaaronson4326 2 жыл бұрын

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@negative_fucks 2 жыл бұрын

It probably wont dial down using the mig gun because the machine is using constant voltage and not constant current.

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense.didnt think about that .👍

@borneogarage36 2 жыл бұрын

doesnt the trigger on the mig torch still work after converting it to a tig torch?

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

Only to turn the gas on

@borneogarage36 2 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab is it possible to run a gasless mig welder with a tig torch with a trigger and running the gas line directly to the bottle through a regulator , im curious if it is possible to lift tig with this setup.

@186scott Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to do this to a gasless mig?

@amcustomfab Жыл бұрын

@ryandavis7593 Жыл бұрын

Great video but one small contention, negative is not the same as ground. There are these things to think about. Positive ground is when a car battery goes positive to chassis. Negative ground is the opposite. Neutral ground is part of a star circuit. Ground literally means chassis or earth. I am saying this as a locomotive electrician. I know you mean well so I hope this is the help that is intended.

@amcustomfab Жыл бұрын

Thank you I really appreciate and respect the constructive criticism always happy to adjust my terminology to be more accurate thanks for supporting the channel 😎

@ryandavis7593 Жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab Thank you for getting some great information out there for us. I am not a welder although I must weld fairly often and am not terrible. Not great either. Just self taught. I learned to braze, gas weld and forge weld early in my career. Electro welding has come pretty easily. I learned some harder things first. I now need to teach my fourteen year old son these things and tig I think he would get the hang of the fastest. I know it came easily to me as it’s similar in process to brazing and soldering. So converting a machine I have to what I need is what your video is all about. In fact the swapping polarity is a key fact that I didn’t think of. Thank you and keep getting better. Never give up and always look for options. Greetings from the high plains of Texas.

@BobTheBreaker9 2 жыл бұрын

Do u really need a gas to do this? I have mainly ever used arc and Flux core so never dealt with gas

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

Yes To tig weld you do.

@stephenmaximo4017 4 ай бұрын

How do you start the arc?

@amcustomfab 4 ай бұрын

Just like a scratch start

@stephenmaximo4017 4 ай бұрын

@amcustomfab It doesn't eff up the tungsten?

@aidenin7 Жыл бұрын

is your mig welder DC or AC to start with

@amcustomfab Жыл бұрын

@metalworksmachineshop 3 жыл бұрын

👍😎

@jesserasso1042 2 жыл бұрын

Or what do those collets go to

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

Their number 20 Tig callets

@jesserasso1042 2 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab yea cause that tip you drilled is the same size the Eastwood 175 ueses thanks man

@jesserasso1042 2 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab a are those the water cooled collets

@richardsargent113 8 ай бұрын

Can you do aluminum?

@amcustomfab 8 ай бұрын

No not with this setup

@richardsargent113 8 ай бұрын

@@amcustomfab what does it take to do aluminum?

@christophermclaughlin8568 2 жыл бұрын

Now I know this content is from TFS.

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I was definitely not the first. But neither was TFS. 6061 and a couple other guys did it before him. 😎

@oneangrycanadian6205 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why the manufacture just doesn’t offer a scratch start tig torch for these machines lol!! They would make money selling them. I’m talking like for the little Lincoln mig park 10 or the power mig 180 even the Miller machines

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

The CK worldwide one I showed later in the video plugs right into the prime weld machine

@oneangrycanadian6205 2 жыл бұрын

@@amcustomfab ya seen that part. Lincoln could makes some money but they are blind to that fact lol

@amcustomfab 2 жыл бұрын

It would be a little harder for a user to install on Lincoln because you have to go inside the machine and bolt it to the lugs it doesn't just have a dense connector on the outside still possible but not as user friendly 😎