How to turn your scrap silver into new sheet metal and wire.

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video I will be showing you how I reuse my scrap silver and turn it into new silver wire and sheet.
Here is a list of all the tools that I use:
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@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

@normascott2837 4 жыл бұрын

GomeowCreations ,

@judykonopka9029 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are excellent. You are a natural teacher. You're succinct, you cover everything, and explain well. Thanks for making them!

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Well thank you and I'm happy I could help 😁👍

@cleverkimscurios3783 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one with my rolling mill flopping around. I swear I'll get it bolted down eventually!

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

If I ever get the studs for the table I will make a video about it so everyone can see how to bolt it down and easily remove it haha

@Ty-ri7dy 4 жыл бұрын

Ya, just as soon as you get that permanent studio space, right? LOL

@cleverkimscurios3783 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ty-ri7dy I do have one though! I even have the bolts! I just cringe at the thought of drilling into the bench. Plus we need to move 2 of the benches and they're already covered in equipment, and well... (unless you were talking to the OP in which case oops)

@Ty-ri7dy 4 жыл бұрын

@@cleverkimscurios3783 No, that was a reply to you. I can just haven't gotten my permanent bench spot yet. I really want to clear out a space to put it, but until then I haven't bolted anything down yet.

@kristibbradshaw Ай бұрын

Great tutorial. Thank you.

@mrBlackCloud 4 жыл бұрын

I'm still new at this framework ... this was helpful ... Thank you

@faby6451 4 жыл бұрын

Veeeery useful and informative! Thank you!

@simongarcia4802 3 жыл бұрын

I make ingots all the time. Ditch the messy oil and use your torch with just the acetylene on . Coat the mold with the carbon from the flame. Way more consistent pours and no stinky oil smell. Thank me later!

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

I have seen that before but I will give it a try 😁👍

@buzzpatch2294 Жыл бұрын

i learned stuff- thx much

@KeyushTheStuntDog 4 жыл бұрын

You can use a draw plate in a vice and just pull by hand, it works fine for thinner wire.

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is one way to do it but I need to get a better draw plate along with a strong work bench 😅

@Ty-ri7dy 4 жыл бұрын

Your channel is the best. I'm about to buy some of these tools and get started making my own wire. I finally have enough finished pieces to have scrap left over. LOL thanks for the great tutorial videos. I'm learning so much from them.

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, let me know if you have any questions. 😁

@Babette17C 3 жыл бұрын

Fabulous video! I had been wondering how this was done. Thanks to you I have the knowledge about it now. Great information!

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Well thank you and I will be making full casting videos soon 😁👍

@redeyestones3738 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff, Randy Thanks

@hendonburgism Жыл бұрын

Propane torches work for melting silver. When I was a teenager I started out with some red clay/ dirt I found on the ground that didn't melt or pop when heated. Pack a layer into a cheap ladle and heat. You just can't melt silver or copper in any sort of steel or iron vessel by itself, it has to be lined with cheap fireclay/sand mix or cheaper red clay dirt off the ground. Use roach killer tablets or laundry detergent as a flux and use dry graphite spray lubricant on whatever you pour the molten silver in. You don't want molten silver or copper to ever touch bare steel or cast iron. Instead of water, pour it into raw linseed oil, it comes out much better.

@DennisHicks78749 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video, thanks. For those who don’t have or want oxygen tanks, melting can be done with a compressed air/ propane (or other fuel gas) mix. I use the Swiss Torch oxy/ propane. But I know they have a melting head for compressed air/ propane. Also, the National Blowpipe 3A/ 3B torch has a melting rosebud tip selection that are for compressed air. The latter can be had for cheap on ebay. There are also smaller tips for it that work for small jewelry pieces. Their tips are expensive, but if you find a used one that can make them cheaper for a starter torch. I think the biggest drawback to the National is that it is larger than the little torches, the Meco Midget, and the Swias Torch.

@DennisHicks78749 2 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention, I really love that you practice and teach safety. Too many youtubers flagrantly disregard safety and are putting people at risk of injury and of cancer, and problems with breathing and vision among other things.

@acp91_ 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad to find this channel

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

😁

@jackkuehneman9300 4 жыл бұрын

To straighten wire, after you anneal it, lock one end in a vise, grab other end with pliers and give it a tug. The wire will stretch a tiny tiny bit but you will have a perfectly straight wire!

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I'm really going to have to try this, I need to get a better vice and mount it to may work bench.😅

@randymurray934 4 жыл бұрын

You can use propane torch to melt your alloys, they get up to 3,623 degrees Fahrenheit or 1,995 degrees Celsius, which is plenty of heat to melt silver and gold.

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Not the propane torches that I have, I just have propane plumbing torches. I know if you have a propane and o2 setup you can do it.

@bluesSGL 2 жыл бұрын

I've had decent luck melting small lumps of silver with a map gas plumbing torch

@usmanismail7024 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video

@JoseRamos-nh2tp Жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation, thank you

@GomeowCreations Жыл бұрын

😁👍

@DianneCulbertsonJacques 3 жыл бұрын

Very detailed video, nice! I'm wondering if the hole didn't come from the solder. I was told not to use any scrap with solder and to run over the scrap with a magnet (bits of saw blades, etc.) because it can cause malformations. Also, adding a little fine to the sterling will help maintain a .925 purity. I separate mine and send the soldered stuff to a refiner. They still pay out for the silver content in the solder. Just some thoughts. Thanks for all the detailed info!

@deborahduthie4519 4 жыл бұрын

Just like magic

@ma1900bi1900 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@mawi1172 2 жыл бұрын

Why am I watching this? For something I'm never going to do... But its interesting to see this all.

@GomeowCreations 2 жыл бұрын

We can just mark it down as entertainment purposes 😁👍

@urbangipsy 3 жыл бұрын

So cool,,!

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mrsfunny1638 4 жыл бұрын

i love it muahh 😘

@MrDutchman100 3 жыл бұрын

I love my pepetool 130 mm electric rolling mill, spits it out like crazy fast.

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

I don't have one of those yet haha

@stevereed1110 3 жыл бұрын

well presented

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊👍

@westcoastcarver4328 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@GomeowCreations 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@ozsebszogeczki5543 3 жыл бұрын

Once a smith asked me, which was warmer, the red or the black hot? The black, because you never touch the red hot.

@kathykumar4764 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I followed your tutorial and melted my scrap silver. I have the same mould as you have and when I tried to pour the molten silver into the wire mould it just came over the top and didn’t go into the round mould. I had warmed the mould a great deal and silver was molten. What did I do wrong please?

@syfylover1 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always thought I think some people might be confused when you say Boric Acid I thought 20 team mule was straight borax and boric acid is like roach killer

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are right, that was my bad sadly I can edit the video after it has been uploaded 😅

@ashtongaeta2581 Ай бұрын

Is it ok to mix sterling silver with a little bit of pure silver to pour into ingot

@krystynag.6642 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you for making it and the supplies/tools links. I was looking at a similar Mill, had no idea it would take that long to change the rollers! 😬 I do have a question, is it important to pickle your scrap before melting in the crucible? Or does it matter?

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

You don't need to pickle it before melting it.

@jamesgreene5342 2 жыл бұрын

they make two types of gages for wire one for ferrous and one for non-ferrous

@spenumbrahot 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you get your heavy metal mesh from?

@iwk-world 4 жыл бұрын

What I learned is: never put the form upright because the metal might spread back out. We werde told to use a slight angle.

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I can see an angle helping. 😁

@chrisstaylor8377 2 жыл бұрын

i use my map pro torch to melt silver , plenty of heat

@orionjenkins6370 2 жыл бұрын

How much should I expect to invest in materials such as one the ones you have? Thank you

@sarahhoward9081 4 жыл бұрын

I would really like to see some of your jewelry making videos

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have a type of jewelry in mind?

@sarahhoward9081 4 жыл бұрын

GomeowCreations rings in particular and whatever else you have experience in. I would like to see general handmade jewelry techniques as there seems to be very little information on it. Shaping and forming raw silver into beautiful works of art. Thanks for your reply!

@Dan-ji4db 4 жыл бұрын

Nice work. I was just melting silver and banging on it to make ring decorations. I dont have a rolling mill yet so i cant do this. How long does it take to swap out rollers?

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

If you have done it before and know what you are doing you can swap the rollers out is 5-10mins

@RiceFromHell 3 жыл бұрын

seen a few videos and liking your content. Could you do a new version of this video but without talking. so basically a ASMR version that would be pretty cool

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

You are not the first to ask for ASMR videos haha. I will think about it.

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

And so we are clear it would just be the working sounds?

@RiceFromHell 3 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations pretty much

@RiceFromHell 3 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations I'ma leave a link here to show a great example but basically yeah. He doesn't talk in the videos but he does add subtitles to introduce things like a tool hes about to use or a short description on why hes adding/doing something sometimes. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntGfeNF3ubSZnHU.html&ab_channel=TysyTubeRestoration

@jasonsummit1885 Жыл бұрын

For my application I just use it how it comes out of my rolling mill as I mostly use square wire.

@GomeowCreations Жыл бұрын

I do the same most of the time

@jasonsummit1885 Жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations it may sound kinda weird to anyone else but making wire with my scrap is fun and relaxing for me. If I'm having a stressful day, I go out to my shop, melt silver, and make wire.😂

@beaddemon2572 4 жыл бұрын

Please show us how to make sterling! 😁

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, later I can do that

@armick57 4 жыл бұрын

Given the cost of precious metals, do you recover the dust and small bits of metal when you are drilling or using the setting burrs?

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I try to but as you might have seen I don't have the right table setup for catching all of it haha. But I do try.

@Daniel-iu7ob 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for video, i learn alot, why you heat the silver after few rolls, and how you make the silver soft or hard ? For example i need silver wires to twist them and make a wire tree or i need a hard silver for a ring. And for example if you continue to bend a wire to not beake. Thanks

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Heating the wire is the make it soft so you can work with it or so you can keep rolling it out without it cracking. 😁👍

@Daniel-iu7ob 3 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations thank you, i need to make it hard again ? And to make that i heated and fast cold in water ?

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Silver will work harden and you move it but the only ways that I know of to harden it is to hammer it, put it into a tumbler with some steel shot or but it is a kiln at something like 600f for an hour and let cool. Heading it and putting it into cold water will not do anything, that I know of.

@Daniel-iu7ob 3 жыл бұрын

You mentioned something about solder and chains, and different types of silver, what's happen if i melt different mixed silver ? Or different mixed silver and solder, many chains... That solder is silver base ? Or is that copper solder/electronic circuits, and one more question :D what happen if i miss a other material in mix ? Is a way to purify ? Thank you very mach

@claresimpson4835 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I like your video of making spoon rings but you said if anyone was interested in seeing how to do it just sterling silver spoons look at comments below, I could not find the comments but I am interested in seeing that video

@GomeowCreations 2 жыл бұрын

I think I said to leave a comment if you wanted to see me make a silver spoon ring.

@claresimpson4835 2 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations Yes, that is the video I would like to see. As a request/suggestion I would like to see a video on how to make a chime with spoons and forks.

@SallyHoffmanDesigns 4 жыл бұрын

What if I haven't been too careful and I have mixed SS, FS and Arg in the same scrap pile?

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I will be 100% honest with you, I really don't know. That being said you could melt all of it together and still make stuff using it but if you sell it make sure to tell the people that it is a mix of those metals. You can also sell/recycle it by sending it into a company that does that and they will pay you for the metals. I suggest starting to separate them in from now on. 😅👍 I wish I could be more help..

@joesolomon6059 Жыл бұрын

do you oil the carbon molds? I have a problem usually with making a round or ingot that when I pour the silver does not distribute evenly, however I am using MAPP Pro with a bernzo ts8000 not acetolyne.. Please let me know your videos are great!

@GomeowCreations Жыл бұрын

I don't oil carbon molds but you do want them to be hot or warm so the metal can flow into them and cool slower.

@simonvidajewelry 4 жыл бұрын

Great video and learning from others. Currently I work with wood jewlery, but would like to try with silver also. Question is, where to buy 925 raw silver (sheet metal, ingots, wire,...)? I don't trust chinesee sellers on e-bay. Thank you

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Well if you want just raw silver or gold you can get it form www.apmex.com/ if you want silver sheet and wire you can get that and a lot more from www.riogrande.com/

@simonvidajewelry 4 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations thank you. Because I live in EU I Need to take a look for supplier here.

@mrsfunny1638 4 жыл бұрын

Simon Vida yup

@leilahankinson4498 3 жыл бұрын

could you recommend the best size/shape/weight hammer to achieve 20G sheet gold from ingot without a rolling mill?

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly no I can't 😅 I have never hammered out sheet metal or gold for that matter...

@gabrielkirkbaca2910 4 жыл бұрын

Could you possibly do a video on mokume

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I have one for wire but I can look into it for sheet metal kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdWqeNV1ncCdY2Q.html

@gabrielkirkbaca2910 4 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations 👍

@randygomez952 Жыл бұрын

Can you smelt stainless steel forks and spoons

@GomeowCreations Жыл бұрын

Not with this setup

@AcidNoir 4 жыл бұрын

Do you lose a percentage of silver when you melt it down? (Sorry if that's a weird question?!) ❤️

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean let me does it burn off? I guess it might a little but nothing you would notice. You will leave a little behind in the container that you melt it in but it's a very little. I can do a weight test to see.

@armick57 4 жыл бұрын

'You're going to want to wear pants"! You mean I can't do this naked?!

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

Haha it's your body, so I can't stop you 😅

@fungusfinder 3 жыл бұрын

I literally immediately came down to the comments to see if this was mentioned. Silvermember is the new austin powers movie.

@JustusPanicker 3 жыл бұрын

sir would you mind helping me i have a plate of 3mm thickness and i wish to convert it into 1.mm wire is there any standard operating procedure for that

@rdbaluyut 3 жыл бұрын

Use a draw plate

@FrancisR420 4 жыл бұрын

So you say you need a mixed gas torch but I've been able to melt down an ounce of fine silver which has a higher melting point than Sterling with a regular propane torch on a firebrick, is there some reason that wouldn't work in a Crucible? Oxygen and MAPP gas is so expensive Do I need it higher than the melting point? I know there's torch your using in the video sucks cuz I have the same one but if you put on a larger hread than it can really get the work done

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

What kinda of torch are you using? I use propane plumbers torches so they don't put of enough head to melt silver in my experience. Mapp gas is really not that much more than a simple propane torch coming in at like $60 for the full setup and like $10 for a refill can. Yeah you can use a bigger head on it to get stuff melted but I wanted to keep this very basic. I really like my little torch setup and it works perfectly for soldering and casting. So will all of that said use whatever works for you and that is in your price range 😊👍

@FrancisR420 4 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations just wanted see if there's something you knew that I didn't, I am using the t8000 from BernzOmatic which is my favorite for everything and it's a regular Plumbing torch it works with MAPP gas that I use it with propane. It cost like fifty bucks just for the head but it's a great mix of heat output and pin pointing I'd love to have an oxygen assisted torch but i dont think it's really in the cards right now gas is very expensive where I live the only retail supplier is Airgas which gouges like crazy I'm just trying out some casting stuff, making billets and mixing up solder and stuff. Not to mention I'm low-key worried about explosions.

@treehousede 3 жыл бұрын

What is the device called that you are pouring the silver into?

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

this bit.ly/IngotMold

@SallyHoffmanDesigns 4 жыл бұрын

What purpose does the boric acid serve?

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I miss spoke and I meant to say borax 😅 It acts as flux 👍

@evelynmazon-alec8917 4 жыл бұрын

what happens if when melting silver you mix clean silver with silver that has been solder

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

You can mix in a very little silver that has solder on it into your clean silver. If you add too much to it you will get some odd spots or holes in your metal along with it bringing down the purity of the metal.

@leilahankinson4498 3 жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations ive wondered this too. when melting old silver or gold scrap jewelry, should I cut out (or file off) all the pieces where I can assume there was a soldering? im referring to melting the metal, intending to use it in a new piece. thanks

@linabina141 4 жыл бұрын

Do you know if there are public places that can melt our silver for us?

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

I don't, but I know some places will take your scrap a give you money for it.

@elizabethdaniels3127 4 жыл бұрын

what is the purpose of the Boric acid, I didn't hear what you said

@GomeowCreations 4 жыл бұрын

It acts as a kind of flux and it costs the inside of the container that your are melting the metal in, that is what it looks all glassy. Also it's Borax not boric acid, I kinda miss spoke 😅

@raymond6845 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, noob question: So the Borax doesn't affect the purity of the silver?

@GomeowCreations 3 жыл бұрын

no it doesn't mix with the silver and the silver kind of floats on top of it.

@davinci3259 Жыл бұрын

How long did this rolling mill last you?

@GomeowCreations Жыл бұрын

A few years and then I ended up upgrading and selling that one to someone else that probably still uses it to this day.

@davinci3259 Жыл бұрын

@@GomeowCreations Thanks. I'm looking to get one, but just can't do $1000 for the pepe one I would like. So I was considering getting this one to start with. I'm trying to get more budget friendly tools to start, then I can upgrade as time and finance permits.

@manfkurd831 2 жыл бұрын

بژیت❤❤❤

@TheNOVAlbert 2 жыл бұрын

The boric acid vs borax confusion is really a widespread thing. To be clear, borax is used to season the crucible and as a flux, right? Boric acid isn't used at all in this process. Boric acid is used by jewelers for things like a barrier flux. It can really be confusing for people trying all this for the first time.

@DobleWhiteAndStabley Ай бұрын

I remember about the time if the plandemic that oxy acetylene was hard to come by, so I had to take egg shells, (calcium carbonate) powder them, and powder some charcoal from my wood grill. Then zap the hell out of it with my arc welder to make calcium carbonate which when added to pure water, not tap water, makes good clean acetylene gas that I harvested and then using electrolysis made oxygen gas. After running them through my own tanks I was able to refill them enough to make jewelry again and pay my rent. That was a fun time.