How to Unlock Best Fleece Upgrades - Cult of the Lamb Fleece Guide
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Күн бұрынHey everybody, here's my guide breaking down the fleeces currently available in the Cult of the Lamb, recommending which one you should unlock first and breaking down how the Golden Fleece, despite its NERF & Rebalance, is still the best in the game.
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Intro: 00:00
Golden Fleece: 01:40
Fleece of the Glass Cannon: 02:30
Fleece of the Diseased Heart: 03:04
Fleece of the Fates: 03:50
Fleece of Fragile Fortitude: 04:19
Golden Fleece Nerf/Balance: 05:00
Thoughts on how to "fix" Golden Fleece: 06:30
Outro: 09:00
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@superneles Жыл бұрын
Timestamps Intro: 00:00 Golden Fleece: 01:40 Fleece of the Glass Cannon: 02:30 Fleece of the Diseased Heart: 03:04 Fleece of the Fates: 03:50 Fleece of Fragile Fortitude: 04:19 Golden Fleece Nerf/Balance: 05:00 Thoughts on how to "fix" Golden Fleece: 06:30 Outro: 09:00 Don't forget to like & Subscribe 😁
@cyanbaba7795 Жыл бұрын
gotta love how one of the golden fleece balancing ideas is "make everything else overpowered too"
@superneles Жыл бұрын
But the thing is nothing is over powered. The other fleeces are terrible in comparison and I think the Golden Fleece is actually very balanced. You loose all your increased damage if you take a hit. It’s high risk high reward. You also take double damage so on the hardest difficulty you can only get hit twice before you’re sent back to the cult. How is that overpowered?
@4zureSapphire Жыл бұрын
@@superneles It is an actual skill issue. The better you are at the game and dodging everything, the more you can retain the stacks until you're unstoppable one shooting everything. Even should all that progress be lost, you are still able to make up for the loss by killing.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
@@4zureSapphire But that's a skill issue of the player, I don't think you should be punished for being good at the game, again I believe the fleece has enough balance, the issue really lies in the fact none of the other fleeces even compare to the current version of the golden fleece. so should the golden fleece be trash? No, I think the others need significant buffs.
@myaltaccount4438 Жыл бұрын
Alt title: Why you should get the golden fleece in cult of the lamb.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Lol completely agree! As it stands it’s still the only fleece I use. Really hope MM decided to improve the other fleeces in future updates
@sorasan2466 Жыл бұрын
@@superneles i use the purple as just a cool alt because im not good enough to use golden fleece.
@the_vine_queen Жыл бұрын
The Fleece of the Fates is actually good for the very first time you go to a new area, since it’s only 3 rooms and there’s no endless option, so you probably won’t get up to 4 tarot cards normally. So my normal progression is to rush the Fates first and use it for the first runs of Anura, Anchordeep and Silk Cradle, then switch back to normal or Golden for later/endless runs.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
That’s a fair use for it but yeah outside of those initial delves in the areas it’s not as useful. I still hope MM updates the fleeces in a coming update. They did announce their next big update will be combat focused so maybe we will see some fleece tuning in that update
@prup796 Жыл бұрын
That's why white fleece is amazing early game/before you get endless mode.
@Alpha_mindustry Жыл бұрын
flece of fates is good alco for narander bossfight and i think it is even best flece for narender bossfight
@animeotaku307 9 ай бұрын
@@Alpha_mindustryYou get swapped to the normal fleece for that fight, though.
@Alpha_mindustry 9 ай бұрын
@@animeotaku307 i had the flece on in older versions btw, so i think that is in newer versions
@ShadyBacon Жыл бұрын
I’d like all fleeces to be the same, but better than the fleece of the lamb, Rather than trying to make all fleeces equal (including fleece of the lamb) It’s weird because it takes time to get the holy talisman and I barely use the other different fleeces
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Sorry if my wording was awkward because I feel we agree the upgraded fleeces should all be improvements and be comparable to each other. Like right now I don’t see any reason to really use anything outside of the Golden Fleece and maybe the glass cannon fleece.
@schar1024 Жыл бұрын
They could remove the increased Damage to yourself. Starting damage is -100%, each hit increases the damage by 100%, if you get damaged or leave the room, this gets a reset. Essentially this helps on rooms with many enemies or a boss/miniboss.
@verestoyjanos5013 Жыл бұрын
My fav is the fleece of the glass cannon. Getting the homing shots can also instakill kallamar but with a lower downside (diseased hearts and blue hearts don't get halved but golden fleece takes still double damage). It's especially useful on the hardest difficulity where some enemies can get really difficult so spamming curses on them will work like a charm. The triple shot is also really fun. Also, the one diseased heart per tarot card works really well with vampiric weapons. You get a tarot card, you heal yourself back up, the diseased heart is down and you take 1-3 damage until you get a new diseased heart. The fleece of feral fortitude is as op as the difficulity youre playing on. The best on asy mode and the worst on super hard mode (especially if you sacrificed half your heart to that stupid fox demon you dumdum). The 4 tarot card fleece is for having fun. You just get that and rush for killing a bishop... to learn move patterns or just to have fun.
@Jjm015 8 ай бұрын
I’d recommend the white cloak because it does 10 damage for a weapon, and you have to get the rainbow card like any one
@thegamingcobra1059 Жыл бұрын
Fool Idk what your talking about but I get hit way to often for the golden fleece to be any good
@superneles Жыл бұрын
not exactly an issue with the golden fleece, it is a high risk high reward fleece, if you'd rather more consistent the glass canon fleece is there, though it's a flat increase and cannot exceed the highs of the golden fleece
@dumpsterfunny2522 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the golden fleece is bad, but it just doesn't fit my play style. I like to test my luck with tarot cards, so I usually pick the fleece of the fates.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
That’s fair. I just find in it’s current state the Golden Fleece is the overall best choice, the other fleeces need to be improved especially if this game is going to have longevity, IMO
@KryphosMDSavimies Жыл бұрын
Yet another amazing video nels
@superneles Жыл бұрын
too kind!!
@K0ira Жыл бұрын
I never used any of the fleeces because they just didn’t seem useful or worth it. It all would dampen my progress, especially that golden fleece. TRY NOT TO TAKE DAMAGE? I wouldn’t be able to!
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Honestly original Golden Fleece was worth it especially if you can avoid damage for a few hits as it just snowballs into a one shot god. But the rest of the fleeces need work
@SiverFangBlackWing Жыл бұрын
I think something like option 2 would be good for the Fleece of the Glass Cannon. Make it really live up to it's name by making you do really high damage but at the risk of a quick death. at the high end I was thinking a one hit one kill setup. Where you can one shot any enemy but any enemy can one shot you. the most important thing is change it to general damage.
@yourhostlu8808 Жыл бұрын
I needed this
@superneles Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you found it!
@sorasan2466 Жыл бұрын
I like the purple fleece. Somewhat useless after you get the upgrade that lets you start with deceased heart. I wear it just as a cool alt. I rarely ever die, and if i die where i am in the game i would lose .1% of what i have
@LazuriteASMR 11 ай бұрын
Guys I think we should use the Golden Fleece
@superneles 11 ай бұрын
Honestly even with the new ones it’s still top tier IMO
@bowenjudd1028 Жыл бұрын
I actually went from the golden fleece to the glass cannon because I typically would get mad if I got hit at all during the run rather than being happy with the damage multiplier but I would also die too easy. Obviously a skill issue but mainly because some weapons can't keep up with fast enemies.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Completely understandable, I am hoping their big combat update fixes a lot of the issues I outlined about the fleeces, they should all be fun and honestly I want to be able to choose between any fleece and not feel like I'm stagnating
@bowenjudd1028 Жыл бұрын
@@superneles For the fleece of fates, they should make it so that it gives two cards per miniboss/boss kill and every card draw is a choice between two
@superneles Жыл бұрын
@@bowenjudd1028 that could be useful, or one each loop give a choice between some cards drawn, like draw four but keep only 1/2, etc.
@wyatts8293 Жыл бұрын
I wanted golden just cuz it looks good
@superneles Жыл бұрын
I think personally the diseased heart looks the best but functionally is the worst
@wyatts8293 Жыл бұрын
yeah I see how it looks cool
@lemonleproot Жыл бұрын
why are my "endless" dungeons ending at three bosses killled ? >:(
@superneles Жыл бұрын
It’s my understanding that’s the current design. I hope in the future they open it up because it seems ridiculous that we can’t keep running the dungeons
@thezodiacdrifter2940 Жыл бұрын
Sub # 300 woop wopp see ya at 10k!!
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Awww much appreciated! I can’t wait for COTL’s major update!
@thezodiacdrifter2940 Жыл бұрын
@@superneles oh yeah I heard! Is there a release date yet?
@superneles Жыл бұрын
@@thezodiacdrifter2940 not yet it just said 2023, but I'm checking their discord everyday
@dominikkorbely5809 Жыл бұрын
you NEED to do a relics version of this video
@superneles Жыл бұрын
absolutely working on it, just been severely backlogged with capturing the footage, and playing tears of the kingdom LOL
@nakrishs 15 күн бұрын
Nowadays hobbled heels is better than the others due to the heal
@MelodyArtiez 6 ай бұрын
Im a fleece of the fates user because im too lazy to go and find more cards
@superneles 6 ай бұрын
i think that's totally acceptable but i often have no issue finding tarot cards on my run so I don't need to get 4 out the gate, but definitely a nice tool for the lazy cult leaders :D
@matthewbridges6142 7 ай бұрын
it would be realistic in cult of the lamb logic to allow players to get infinite golden fleece damage because players who are able to get it to levels that high in my opinnion would be considered to be gods and "gods" are powerful
@twitnobxd4142 Жыл бұрын
After the update…, does Golden Fleece still better or berserker is more better?
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Haven’t unlocked it yet but I plan to do an updated video on the fleeces, I think it’ll likely be Golden Fleece since it has less inherent risk but obviously 10 times damage is big, especially with a weapon like the hammer or axe.
@benwil6048 2 ай бұрын
Bruh I have almost unlocked every single building and I still don't have a damn crab to give to that bastard. going double fishing soon though
@superneles Ай бұрын
There’s always one resource I’m missing lol
@benwil6048 Ай бұрын
@@superneles doing the fish ritual did fix it, truly a divine intervention
@torixon9902 Жыл бұрын
I simply can't agree with getting Gold Fleece as the first fleece. It's powerful, but turns you into a true glass cannon, which I feel for less skilled players could be setting too high of an expectation. As someone who's fairly good, but notoriously over-aggressive at times, I first tried the Fleece of the Fates, running the assumption it would give me 4 Tarot card CHOICES like when drawing them from Clauneck rather than just 4 random ones (which I could see as a potential buff idea, but I really like yours too). Afterwards, I got the Fleece of the Diseased Heart since I felt like I could utilize it for increased survivability. I proceeded to play through the rest of the game without getting martyred once (Though Calimar came very close). The issue of not being able to get a diseased heart if you already have one is easily sidestepped by just... not drawing a tarot card and moving on with the current level, THEN go back and draw a tarot card if you either lose the diseased heart or reach the end of the current level.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Totally understand your points, I think going glass cannon isn't an issue though seeing as, most of the difficulties are currently pretty forgiving. I believe you have some serious s unless playing on the hardest difficulty. I agree with a potential buff with your idea on the fleece of fates, hopefully the upcoming combat patch/dlc will see some of these improvements, thanks for commenting!
@makswell5017 4 ай бұрын
Fleece of fates is my main
@superneles 4 ай бұрын
Seen a lot of feedback on it and I get it. I just prefer zany/risky over easy and safe lol
@prup796 Жыл бұрын
I like white fleece because it's lack of consequence.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
True. It’s pretty non consequential.
@theevilbucky3651 Жыл бұрын
If the Golden Fleece gets to hard to balance (which it most likely will) they might just have to give it the boot.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
I think it’s current state is fairly balanced. But it’s still the best choice IMO versus all other fleeces. I hope with the upcoming combat update that they really flesh out and increase the power/utility of the other fleeces.
@theevilbucky3651 Жыл бұрын
@@superneles I use the Fleece of Fates so I can get at least 4 tarot cards and have them at the start rather than mid-way through.
@henrygrey7857 Жыл бұрын
Haha it’s so funny how we were all hyped about the Golden Fleece before the DLC didn’t we?
@superneles Жыл бұрын
yeah we were, I still think it's the most well rounded, for my gameplay style at least, berzerkers fleece is too high risk for my blood lol
@Literallythebiggesthater 3 ай бұрын
In other words the fleece is basicly sterions
@superneles 3 ай бұрын
haha yes quite good
@sorasan2466 Жыл бұрын
I can see why kallamar could be hard, but everytime i fight him hes so easy.
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Fair. Calamari is the only boss that I had an remote struggle on 🤷🏻♂️
@Vankcellup Жыл бұрын
All fleeces and still no achievement. Whg do these fun games always have to have buggy achievements 😢
@superneles Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the doc’s fleeces have impacted this or not, since technically there are 5 fleeces added to the game
@Vankcellup Жыл бұрын
@SuperNelES not too many people have updated info on the game either to where you can figure out what to do besides praying for a patch
@superneles Жыл бұрын
@@Vankcellup yeah it looks like I encountered my first bug as well, I think I got a soft lock on a follower forms since I "beat" the DLC and now I can't roll for follower forms with god tears anymore just supplies and necklaces...
@brandongreen4439 Жыл бұрын
I feel like no matter what the Golden Fleece will be seen as the most useful when played well because of one, simple, unchangeable fact. Everything is on a timer. The day/night cycle, followers needs and ages, the works, all marching along the endless expanse of time. The Golden Fleece fills the need of a way to speed up that process without overly specializing or relying too much on tarot rng. I just wish that it stacked properly(on switch at least idk anything else) with lobbed spells and ichor kills. Stuff like rocks falling on them I’m fine with not adding, but come *on*, it hurts to have a lobbed spell and have to hope you don’t do too much until you swing or get to out right replace it
@superneles Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I’m hoping with the up coming combat update (coming “soon”™️) that the fleeces are revisited and all rebalanced. But we will see.
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