How to Upgrade to a Smart Thermostat with Four Wires

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Ask This Old House home technology expert Ross Trethewey demonstrates how to install a new smart thermostat without an existing common wire.
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Cost: $150
Time: 1 hour
Difficulty: Easy
Shopping List:
Google Nest Smart Thermostat [amzn.to/3ePM8US]
Tools:
Phillips head screwdriver [amzn.to/3cIbbHv]
Small flathead screwdriver [amzn.to/2RYIKgr]
Steps for Installing a Smart Thermostat:
1. Shut the power off and disconnect the old thermostat using the small flathead screwdriver. Ross suggests taking a picture of the wiring configuration to keep track of which wire goes where.
Remove the wall screws holding up the thermostat before disconnecting the wiring to prevent the wires from falling into the wall.
2. Mount the baseplate of the smart thermostat to the wall using the provided screws.
Wire the smart thermostat to the correct terminals.
a. In general, the heating wire (often white), goes into the “W” port, the cooling wire (often yellow), goes into the “Y” port, the wire that sends power from the HVAC system to the thermostat (often red), goes into the “R” port, the fan wire (often green), goes into the “G” port, and the common wire (often blue), which should go into the “C” port.
b. If you don’t have a common wire, Ross recommends wiring the G wire into the common port instead. Most people don’t use the “fan only” mode, so while you’d give up control over the fan in the system, you’d gain constant power to the smart thermostat. You’ll also have to change the wire at the furnace from G to C.
5. Connect the thermostat to the baseplate.
6. Configure the thermostat following the manufacturer’s settings.
Resources:
Ross installed a Google Nest Thermostat E [amzn.to/3ePM8US]. The kit comes with the baseplate, thermostat, and required screws to secure it to the wall.
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@robertsteich7362 4 жыл бұрын

I would’ve put a piece of tape over the hole and poke the wires through it. This minimizes air leakage from the inside of the wall. Which can give inaccurate temperatures to the thermostat.

@pabloescobar9337 3 ай бұрын

Great idea!

@ZachCullenDrums 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve thought about doing mine this way but there’s already something attached to the C Wire terminal down at the furnace but no C wire behind my thermostat. Can I connect it anyway?

@michaeln702 3 жыл бұрын

Great tips! Thank you!

@yuniorlazo8518 3 жыл бұрын

You are brilliant٫ you safe me a trip to the store thanks brother👍

@soniamaldonado8200 4 жыл бұрын

If I’m not switching the yellow to the Common slot would there be any reason I’d have to even touch the furnace? In other words can I change the thermostat without having to do anything to it? Thx.

@the-bu3lb 2 жыл бұрын

Many homes have the old circle turn with 2 or 3 wires I would like to see How you go from that to a new updated style

@pabloescobar9337 3 ай бұрын

You'll likely need to run a new wire unless you have some unused. Especially if you're missing a Common wire.

@pliontis 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about this cheap E model you used, but a couple of the normal 2nd gen ones that i am using for years now, are wired normally (all the cables at the correct place - including the fan) and work flawlessly. The battery was only used a couple of times we had a power failure.

@ptg01 9 ай бұрын

Did you have a C wire connected to the 2nd gen Nest Thermostat ?

@pliontis 9 ай бұрын

@@ptg01 Yes, the C wire was connected.

@ptg01 9 ай бұрын

Seems simple enough ! At the furnace side, I've seen other instructions that says in addition to moving green wire to "C" terminal, you need to install a short jumper wire between "G" terminal and "Y" terminal inside the furnace's control board ?

@mansharker8 4 жыл бұрын

I would have ran a new line with more wire pairs inside the cable, for control of the fan as well.

@jessicaparsons1216 6 ай бұрын

Quick and helpfull thanks for the tip.!

@HomeIdeasYT 4 жыл бұрын

Great, thx :)

@reaperbot5226 4 жыл бұрын

could have ran a newer line of cables with to support the added functions. depending on how the original wiring was setup that is. sadly it's not always a straight shot from the thermostat to the heating/cooling unit. but when fishing new wiring you can tape the newer one to the older one. so you can fish the new line in place of the old line when you pull out the older line. however it can be tricky for someone with little/no experience.

@thomaslascola2698 3 жыл бұрын

Unless you have an other home What they used to do to hold the line in place was wrap around a screw head. So in some cases you have to find a whole new way of fishing the line to the unit. But honey well sells a add a fifth wire kit. Where it is a splitter adapter that two of the wires split sending power to the thermostat and when the fan or heating or actually is called for.

@Genesyxx 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a list of thermostats compatible with four wires?

@mattb9664 4 жыл бұрын

Google just needs to make the Nest compensate and adjust the real room air temperature measurement against the cold-soak wall temperature. The cold wall still throws off the temperature measurement and causes unnecessary call-for-heat cycles. All they need is a thermal couple dongle that hangs in the wall cavity connected from their base-plate.

@peewee21345 3 жыл бұрын

Question. What happens to the G wire spot since isnt connected to the correct spot since it’s replaced the yellow wire in this sense. Since there is nothing on the G terminals, what’s the consequence?

@dgmenace73 2 жыл бұрын

I thought the very same thing. On my Cor 7 I think I jumped the compressor wire to the G terminal so every time my ac came on the fan would work? I may be wrong about that but am curious to how this Nest worked with nothing connected to G terminal of thermostat which I think is the Fan. Thanks.

@zacheryaltamirano9697 4 ай бұрын

Are all terminals in the artic or on the unit itself that’s in a closet like mine?

@Hookset2490 4 жыл бұрын

I would have fixed the holes and painted the wall before mounting the new control.

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

Then if it did not work, you get another unit and your "thinking ahead" just became an extra waste of time and labor for nothing

@Hookset2490 4 жыл бұрын

@@dertythegrower Not really, because when I paint a room I never paint around things like that to begin with. If that had indeed been my project/home it would already have been painted behind the old unit.

@KE5ZZO 4 жыл бұрын

Hookset2490 maybe Mauro Henrique couldn’t get across the Mexico / us border in time for this video...

@SAEtaylor 4 жыл бұрын

He mentions it in the video and it’s outside of the scope of what they wanted to show here

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

derty QWERTY Even if you get a different thermostat you still have to fix the wall first. Only if you put the old thermostat back then you don’t need to fix the wall, but since the homeowner already went into spending hundreds on that thermostat i guess chance is big that there is going to be a different thermostat.

@Furieas 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Nest app was worthless . Thank you.

@nathanielstuckey3354 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man you helped me out alot I had a heck of a time till I seen your video about the c wire

@seankoons2023 Жыл бұрын

So wait the fan still works?

@nathanielstuckey3354 Жыл бұрын

@@seankoons2023 I had a technician come out and just hook it up for me because this small little problem it'll cost me a lot of money because one of the wires got got crossed down there at my circuit board for my furnace I blew out the breaker box on the side of my house so I'd have a technician come out and do it I learned my lesson on that one but all is good and everything is good now I wish I just want to bottle adapter to go to a five wire I want to save me a lot of time

@tommycai22 3 жыл бұрын

Was your rc and rh jumpered?

@jerrymccreery1074 2 жыл бұрын

What if I have the added complication of an electrostatic filter on the air conditioner with its own little controller?

@kylek04 2 жыл бұрын

I recently did this switch from “G” to “C”. Have my best constant power. Unfortunately, doing that I have lost blower during AC function. The outside ac unit comes on. But the blower does not! Any ideas!?? Thanks!

@tedlahm5740 2 жыл бұрын

kylek04 Do you have blower (fan) when a call for heat? Some control boards do this automatically without the G fan wire being energized from the thermostat. The correction for YOUR ac problem is to jumper the cooling and fan screw on the control board?

@beefmelt 2 ай бұрын

My question is this. If I set the temperature to something like 75 degrees, is the thermostat able to operate the heating furnace or the AC unit, whichever needs to be running to maintain my temperature setting without me tending the thermostat?

@Nikola8000 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to install this in my home. Heating woks differently than on video. Basically i have only radiator heating, no air ducts. And am wondering is it possible with Nest to control my gas boiler and my air conditioner, witch is a separate unit. I have 3 wires from heating boiler to current thermostat. And if it possible to control my AC unit how many wires do i need?

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Call nest, its free and the number is found by asking goog

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

On nest you need 5 wires! In your case call a pro. Or you will short out your transformer!

@EMBer3000 4 жыл бұрын

How hard would it be to pull a new wire? In case it breaks or you want to upgrade.

@sloth6765 4 жыл бұрын

Before the video even played, I was gonna comment that the best way to install thermostat with 4 wires is to pull a 5 wire cable and get with the times. Four wire/battery/hack is nothing but trouble.

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe the cable is stapled onto the studs in the wall. Don’t know if it is the case (i never lived in a wooden home) but it could be. I can imagine that a cable that is not in a pipe doesn’t snake as easy.

@kingcut8589 Жыл бұрын

How can the cool function work without a fan to push the air??

@carlosfiriarte 6 ай бұрын

Do you need to set the gas as Auto or on?

@seankoons2023 Жыл бұрын

Wait if you get rid of green which is fab control. What happens. Don’t you need that?

@chucklotro8749 4 жыл бұрын

I have an ancient Mercury based bulb controller that I'd like to replace, it has 3 wires we only have a heater. Thoughts?

@snintendog 4 жыл бұрын

depends what are the wires labeled\ what type of heating do you have IE forced hot air, base board heating etc R W is a 2 wire simple one if you have R W C your golden if its more complex labels a simple google of "thermostat signal" will give you complete understanding what each label is.

@chucklotro8749 4 жыл бұрын

@@snintendog Hello Snintendog, the wires aren't labeled these are red, white and yellow. The white and yellow connect into the Mercury bulb. It is [I think] forced air as it is a heating unit mounted in a false ceiling with ducts running to each room (up high). I am not sure what R W and R W C mean. Let me try google. Thanks!

@sbrave Жыл бұрын

My system only has 2 wires (red & white) connected to the existing thermostat. There is an antenna box controller connected to the system which, is believed to have been installed because the other wires aren't working, due them being damaged etc? My heat and AC currently work. If I install a Nest thermostat, could I continue to just connect only the red & white wires?

@harmonvlog Жыл бұрын

I see you said if you have a four wire (which I think I might) and you swap the G wire for the C wire, what exactly are you giving up? Is it fan control? What does that mean? Do you mean Low, Med, High, for example? I have to imagine the blower still comes on, correct?

@greeksurferdude 11 ай бұрын

It's separate from the AC and heat functions. You lose the ability to manually turn the fan on and off.

@Luckingsworth 10 ай бұрын

It means your fan will either always be running, or only ever turn on when the system wants. Whatever it defaults to.

@robertkent4192 4 жыл бұрын

great install i have the nest with 4 wires

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

Older nest did work with 4 wires , all new ones don't.

@rawhide303 4 жыл бұрын

I was just looking into replacing my old thermostat yesterday. There's only three wires running to it going to G, W, and R.

@sivakumars1652 4 жыл бұрын

That's fine it just means that you dont have air conditioning it is still compatible.

@zack9912000 4 жыл бұрын

Do NOT buy those pos nests. Get a ecobee if you want a smart thermostat

@CristianNShadowCast 4 жыл бұрын

As a bonus with ecobee you dont lose the fan control

@fcbjavi5 4 жыл бұрын

Get Ecobee , those nest are great if you have a C wire, the Ecobee has an adapter that will keep every wire where it’s suppose to be.

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

Hmmm I can think of couple ways around C wire . Check inside the whole for metal conduit and ground 1 extra wire and use as C .Let's see how about add a wire ? Not actual wire but a device called add a wire or wireless wire. And lastly just pull a new wire , it's not hard.

@scotttovey 4 жыл бұрын

So if the thermostat cannot control the fan, how does the furnace distribute the heated air throughout the house? Turning the fan on and off is just as much controlling the fan as varying the speed of the fan.

@ALMX5DP 4 жыл бұрын

He was talking about separate and independent fan control. Using and running the heat or AC will automatically trigger fan operation.

@scotttovey 4 жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP Sounds a bit more complicated than that old two wire system I'm accustomed too.

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

The only way to get even air is a zone system!!! No thermostat can control distribution of air. Secondly remember most smart thermostats are being controlled by your local electric company! Meaning during heatwave they can and will turn off your A/C !

@2-old-Forthischet 4 жыл бұрын

A trick I learned as a telecom tech was to cinch a LARGE cable tie onto the wire BEFORE it falls back into the wall because all it takes is that one/first time. Another tip is that many of these thermostats do not charge the batteries so beware that AAA size batteries don't last very long with consistent use. I change out the batteries every summer season in my condo and remove the batteries in my RV thermostat when not in use.

@GameInterest 3 жыл бұрын

Subbed.

@creightonjohnson8598 4 жыл бұрын

What do you need to do if you only have 2 wires in your wall??

@DeizaldaDon 3 жыл бұрын

Impossible. Not your star wire

@snintendog 4 жыл бұрын

got the unholy grail when researching my system RH red wire RC red wire W White wire Y White wire G Bare copper outer coating was stripped a ton looks green from the shreds i found in the wall with only a R W outside of the master bedroom. bought chepos for those since the older thermostats had minor mercury leaks the house is only nearing 18. though i gotta love that the phone lines are just cat5 cables.

@abdulrahmanmayouf4535 4 жыл бұрын

I have 8 wires in my old thermostat. Can i replace it with smart one?

@weirdstuffandthattogames6736 3 жыл бұрын

yes you can

@everfargo6333 2 жыл бұрын

I wire it it works but it starts blowing h I t air I have to keep changing it why????

@sw5926 4 жыл бұрын

This would only work for a single zone system, right?

@tt7hvn 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@zack9912000 4 жыл бұрын

Ecobee can be set up to run zones

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

You can run any t-start with zone system! It all depends on how many zones your board can handle.

@geek2330 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like to change my 20 year old on the first floor, however it is only used for heating and I only have 2 wires, a white and a red. Any tips?? This furnace is just about 20 years old also and has no common wire/terminal and I cannot run another wire to the basement, would be very inconvenient not to say impossible due to the house layout. Can I still use a smart t-stat?

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

Yes you can. Eco bee.

@thomaslascola2698 3 жыл бұрын

It would be extra but youd have to look up a module thermostat.

@PrimalEdge 4 жыл бұрын

Groovy

@DordiHOTS 9 ай бұрын

They sell thermostat cover plates to cover the existing paint left from the old one.

@hamadalmarri2141 2 жыл бұрын

What happened to the fan ( G ) wire ? There is no control to the fan

@dougstucki8253 Жыл бұрын

I believe he should have mentioned connecting a jumper from the Y to the G at the furnace. The Y being the compressor, so that every time the compressor is on, so is the fan.

@demagab 4 жыл бұрын

What does it mean you lose control of the fan? He can no longer switch it on when the system is off?

@ALMX5DP 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's just losing the ability to independently operate the fan (outside of AC or heat functionality).

@andrewludwig9251 4 жыл бұрын

He needed the fan wire to provide power to the thermostat so he lost independent control of just the fan It is very a very common practice.

@DavidJGillCA 4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewludwig9251 That actually sucks. At times running the fans alone is useful.

@thejpkotor 4 жыл бұрын

Not a big deal. My HVAC people don’t recommend turning the fan on and off all the time. Best to just keep it running and circulating air.

@demagab 4 жыл бұрын

@@thejpkotor although if you keep the fan on when the AC is taking a break, it will blow the moisture around and you won't effectively dehumidify your home

@huyenthoai Жыл бұрын

Where is the green wire for fan

@David_K_Dickson 4 жыл бұрын

I am sceptical about taking advice on electrics from somebody who talks about "volts flowing".

@joemccain5014 2 жыл бұрын

Current flows voltage is potential lol you’re soo right

@od2437 3 жыл бұрын

What does no control over the fan mean?

@biker_on_a_budget 3 жыл бұрын

Means the fan will only turn on when the unit is on to blow heat or cool You won’t be able to turn the fan on manually by itself

@od2437 3 жыл бұрын

@@biker_on_a_budget got it. I actually do have a blue C wire it turned out.

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

4:53 What if your furnace is in the basement?

@nightxxowl1215 4 жыл бұрын

Then you go to the basement. Doesn't matter where the furnace is, all that matters is the wiring is correct.

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

@@nightxxowl1215 It was a rhetorical question.

@Furiends 4 жыл бұрын

Since these are wireless anyway I can't understand why they don't just have receiver units that connect up to the AC unit instead of using the wall wiring. You only need two wires for power which all thermostats would have at least three then you got always on power but the actual control functions could just work off a remote unit.

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

They do have it. Called wireless wire.

@Furiends 4 жыл бұрын

@@yurydolinsky That go with Nest or Nexus?

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

@@Furiends its sold separately.

@Nuggetbeast 4 жыл бұрын

Call for cooling goes to y and g for fan and compressor when you call for cooling. I guess you can put a jumper from y to g on your control board.

@nilz23 4 жыл бұрын

Or just run a new 5 wire cable to the furnace that has a C terminal in it like every furnace I've ever seen ever,

@zack9912000 4 жыл бұрын

yea don't do that. Causes nothing but problems. Just run the correct wire and do it right

@albowrx 4 жыл бұрын

Umm, and why in the hell would you need to do that for? When cooling is on, the board automatically turns the fan relay on. G is for when you need to turn on fan on its own without cooling or heating. if people aren't using the fan much and you can't run new wire, you can use the G wire as ground. Or just use one of those apparatuses that add a ground, just like ecobees come with. Please refrain from using idiotic recommendations if you don't know anything about HVAC.

@Nuggetbeast 4 жыл бұрын

tubatuba not all control boards bring fan on with y cooling relay That’s why the t stat sends power to control board on y and g. When calling for cooling. And tell me what happens if they have electric heat. What brings fan on.

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

I am amazed you still found something that was made to last more than 10 years, let alone over 20. The thing almost looks like you just installed it to do this video

@FiliAinuu 3 жыл бұрын

What about if I only have 3 wires. White/Red/Green?

@nick4leader 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have ac?

@FiliAinuu 3 жыл бұрын

@@nick4leader no

@nick4leader 3 жыл бұрын

@@FiliAinuu I think one of the four is specifically for cooling via ac

@jennafloore9342 4 жыл бұрын

Tried this solution and now we're getting error message 195 saying no power to R detected. Any tips?

@SkufMcGruff Жыл бұрын

Seems like showing you switching the wire from the C to the G on the furnace was a pretty huge step to skip.

@kennynguyen951 11 ай бұрын

Go to your furnace with a flashlight, pop the furnace door open, and look for a brown wire with 4 little wires in it with the same color as the wire at the thermostat. Trace them to the furnace board, loosen a screw that holds the green wire, then tight that green to the terminal with C label on it which is very next to that green G label. That's all you need to do.

@Zawo254 2 ай бұрын

I have 2 Greens a yellow and a red PLEASE HELP!

@SalemHeatingandCooling 4 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍

@OfficialMarkZuckerberg 4 жыл бұрын

I definitely would have painted before install but its whatever.

@KE5ZZO 4 жыл бұрын

Chase maybe Mauro Henrique couldn’t get across the Mexico / us border in time for this video...

@CristianNShadowCast 4 жыл бұрын

Why give up G? Just choose another thermostat which is compatible with your whole setup, for example any ecobee unit

@thomaslascola2698 3 жыл бұрын

Actually its smart. Cause most smart thermostats need 5 wires.. as he stated you need a common for the thermostat. You really dont need to control the fan at the thermostat as it is controlled st the board as well. But the only other fixes is running 5 or 6 wire as it's only smart to run an additional wire as a backup or for future. But it some homes that really hard to do.. or the have a add a fifth wire where it's a module. That uses the green wire as a common until you call for fan on or off.

@SethWestmore 4 жыл бұрын

Should have painted and fixed the holes first. Twice the work is fun though!

@thomaslascola2698 3 жыл бұрын

Lol the point was how to change a thermostat. Not how to patch holes in drywall..

@dcavic6157 4 жыл бұрын

Lucky he had all his wires. My thermostat only has 2 😓

@andrewludwig9251 4 жыл бұрын

Look into the Honeywell Prestige 9000 thermostat-- you only need two wires in your wall and it's a million times better than a Nest. Mist HVAC guys dislike the Nest -- they can be very buggy and they can have problems.

@TheMhussain14 4 жыл бұрын

If it’s not too much of a headache, you can try to fish a new 18/3 wire. In case you really want a 3 wire smart thermostat.

@dcavic6157 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMhussain14 id have no idea how to hook up the other end

@andrewludwig9251 4 жыл бұрын

IF Master the reason the Honeywell Prestige 9000 thermostat only needs 2 wires is that the only thing the 2 wires do is supply power to the wall unit and then it communicates wirelessly with the equipment interface module mounted to the actual piece of equipment - all the wiring is done right at the furnace or boiler.

@MaxRenke 4 жыл бұрын

Does TOH sell that hat?

@timg734 2 жыл бұрын

What if your thermostat has 3 wires

@ynk1121 4 жыл бұрын

We all agree to certain colors meaning certain things for a reason. It's like when there's a single romex to a switch, the white wire gets wrapped in tape as a warning to the next one in there it's a hot wire. I have 3 Nest thermostats and they all included 2 sheets of wire labels in the box. You should have used them on the now "C" wire on both ends or at very least put some blue tape on the wire so the next person that does work doesn't cremate something when following correct coloring. I know it's low voltage and not going to cause a fire but it's still a d*ck move leaving it like that.

@thomaslascola2698 3 жыл бұрын

Well most likely a technician would be the next guy.. and being an hvac installer. We have seen them use different color wiring without labeling it. But cause we have seen it and based of material on the truck we use different wires.. like besides red and white are constants.. blue and yellow are used for cooling green for fan or common. Brown and orange as well.

@Stoneham64 4 жыл бұрын

Why not just add a jumper from the G to the C?

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea!! Call me when you short out your furnace I'll give you better rate on repair :)

@nightxxowl1215 4 жыл бұрын

G doesn't provide 24v so adding a jumper to C would not work. C provides the 24v power, which is why you not only switch the G wire to C at the thermostat but also at the furnace control board.

@Stoneham64 4 жыл бұрын

@@nightxxowl1215 - Thanks, I get it now.

@nathanbennett9025 4 жыл бұрын

Nest sucks it will burn up control boards

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

That’s probably caused by the person who installed it.

@nathanbennett9025 4 жыл бұрын

@@Engineer9736 yeah true homeowners. Then they call the hvac company

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Bennett So that’s good for the HVAC companies.

@nathanbennett9025 4 жыл бұрын

@@Engineer9736 i do hvac and i find so many problems will nest thermostats and lyric tstat they are the worst

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone older, you in fact save money with a good smartmeter.. it doesnt run the power to units if you are not home, so that saves money. Your normal unit runs off temp, aka stupidly running meter when you are not home,wasting billions of dollars in power every year globally. Fact🤷‍♂️

@pavelow235 4 жыл бұрын

Since when did Kelso become an electrician?

@feedoma4519 Жыл бұрын

1:55 just cut the wires!

@Studio23Media 4 жыл бұрын

I love all the boomers commenting about how they don't like smart thermostats and think they're a waste. Y'all are just mad because you can't figure out how to work basic technology.

@paulhowell5011 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Taylor Boomers 🤪

@hc130radio 4 жыл бұрын

And all the boomers running HVAC companies that have youtube channels. They rant and hate on the nest so hard.

@bfsgman 4 жыл бұрын

It's not uncommon for people who grew up with older technology to have a continued affinity for it. If you grew up with current technology, it stands to reason that it's going to feel "basic" to you because you learned how to use it early on. I just think it's a douche move to mock people who are resistant to change. All of the technology that is current now will one day be replaced with something more advanced, and I'm sure the people who grew up on what we have now will be just as resistant to what comes next.

@thejpkotor 4 жыл бұрын

I would watch the nest thermostats in general. They have a history of damaging furnaces. Go with something better like a Honeywell smart thermostat.

@yurydolinsky 4 жыл бұрын

I am A/C tech with over 20 years under my belt and you couldn't pay me to install that garbage at my house!! Remember thermostat has no idea how big is your system or size of your property. There is no magic here, if you want to save electricity then turn it off!

@hvacr_whiz6132 4 жыл бұрын

THIS WONT WORK WITHOUT A JUMPER FROM G TO Y AT THE FURNACE YOU WILL NOT HAVE A WAY TO TURN THE FAN ON

@liskaerik 4 жыл бұрын

Oh really?

@hvacr_whiz6132 4 жыл бұрын

Erik Liska yes every thermostat sends 24volts to Y and G when calling for cooling. Y to turn on the outside unit G to turn the fan on

@tt7hvn 4 жыл бұрын

These are cool but I'll argue all day that these are no more energy efficient than the one he replaced. They are simply smart, meaning that they connect to a network and can be remotely controlled; that is all.

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

Uh, depends really.. some save money by knowing if you are inside the home by using sensors in the home to detect if ac usage would even be used by a family or pet.

@scotttovey 4 жыл бұрын

@Xftbllplyr You guys forgot the most important part of a smart thermostat. It allows a foreign Chinese communist operative, the government or some other nefarious group to track your energy usage so that they can shut down your power if you, in their opinion, are using too much. Anything connected to the net is hackable, and is trackable. That's the primary purpose of IOT (internet of things).

@Shadi2 4 жыл бұрын

half the fun is yelling at Alexa to change the thermostat temperature

@tt7hvn 4 жыл бұрын

@@dertythegrower it is always more energy efficient to maintain a temperature in a room/house. Heat energy is relative and everything that has mass, holds heat. Most people think it's easy to change temp in a room or that you're saving energy by shutting off the unit until you're home from work. So, when you change temp, everything in the room needs to change temp, not just the air; everything, furniture, walls, floor, etc. I'll say it again, it's more energy efficient to maintain temp than to change it throughout the day.

@scotttovey 4 жыл бұрын

@@Shadi2 LOL

@davidciaffa4711 4 жыл бұрын

You're already spending around $150 for the thermostat. Spend another $25 or so and do the job right with an Add-A-Wire kit...

@duckbilldaniel 4 жыл бұрын

Especially with the AC 2 inches below.

@jessiebraun5442 4 жыл бұрын

No thanks

@danf16dcc38 4 жыл бұрын

A nest? I thought you said you were going to install a smart tstat.

@James-gs5wy 4 жыл бұрын

“It’s a new reality for all of us”

@lenn55 4 жыл бұрын

Overly dramatic. People will forgot about this in a year or so. Happens after every major crisis.

@RainbowMedicine2000 4 жыл бұрын

Not into smart appliances. And old mercury thermostat is just as good. Not everything has to have a computer in it.

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

It is not just as good, that is why people are installing them. They are more simple.. that is what you mean, you do not want non simple

@jessiebraun5442 4 жыл бұрын

The older models are a lot better then the new computer stuff. Do not need all these fancy gizmos for a phone.

@jessiebraun5442 4 жыл бұрын

@@dertythegrower LOL nope

@albowrx 4 жыл бұрын

This is the comment I left on this video: Oh yeah, while in the midst of a huge power grab by the globalists, what better way to introduce them to your home?! Nest is owned by google and I was their 3rd Chicago installation technician that was taking care of the service problems Nest clients had. Mostly the Nest thermostats needed to be grounded to the furnace or boiler. Nest would reimburse the client even up to $360 for me to run a ground wire so their nest was operational. The nest would cost $250 everywhere. Now why would google would go negative you would ask. I would guess to the data they were extracting out of the nest. Stay away from these spyware. There's nothing smart about these thermostats they're anything but smart. The fool is you that is falling for the surveillance, willfully. But what do I know... you probable have that nice Alexa to go with it. It's sad as these apparatuses would be a match made in heaven for the secret police in the communist country I lived in before we immigrated here. Wake up

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

Let natural selection handle this.. Dumb choices result in a less good life.

@poolahpot 4 жыл бұрын

NOPE!

@lazerf7906 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That's an ugly setup. No deco plate to cover the wall. FAIL. I would choose another thermostat that has one in package. Many do.

@anth-ny 2 жыл бұрын

YOUR NOT SAYING WHERE EACH WIRE IS COMING FROM SO THIS IS USELESS

@ertugrul5699 3 жыл бұрын

Well Now your home is controlled by google

@fiouable 4 жыл бұрын

And of course, when the economy is crashing, it’s the perfect time to spend $200 on a thermostat.

@Ck87JF 4 жыл бұрын

Most utility companies offer rebates which reduce the cost, sometimes to zero depending on rebates and device. Couple that with the energy savings they can offer, and you will probably save money in the long run.

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

Ck87JF Seriously, never fall for the “get x and get y for free” marketing tricks. Of course the price of that free thing is coming out of your pocket via x.

@user-xx7pg3vw9k 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah hell no thank you. Don’t need my sh*t getting hacked.

@deborahsinico9732 4 жыл бұрын

Do Not put a Smart Meter on your home!!!

@Engineer9736 4 жыл бұрын

Good communication, everyone understands what you are after 👍 /sarcasm

@markhagler4311 4 жыл бұрын

Why would anybody pay that much for a thermostat that will allow google to track you and all the green deal a holes. The world is going crazy with all these new ideas if it's not broke don't fix it. Duh Huh. I will stick with my Honeywell

@bfsgman 4 жыл бұрын

So stick with what works for you then. Don't worry about what other people choose to put in their homes or why. It's called freedom of choice.

@markhagler4311 4 жыл бұрын

@@bfsgman I not worried by any means just stating the facts. Google and the govt. Is tracking us through all these new gadgets. But if that's what you or anyone else wants then by all means knock yourself out.

@Yorkie285 4 жыл бұрын

Forget to patch and paint the drywall? looks ghetto////

@ALMX5DP 4 жыл бұрын

@6:18. It's good practice to get everything set up and working first.

@andrewludwig9251 4 жыл бұрын

They make a plate that will cover that mess.

@dertythegrower 4 жыл бұрын

he says that at the end. Most people do not care about perfect walls and form

@KE5ZZO 4 жыл бұрын

Doberman Dobie maybe Mauro Henrique couldn’t get across the Mexico / us border in time for this video...

@KE5ZZO 4 жыл бұрын

Sonny Dey maybe Mauro Henrique couldn’t get across the Mexico / us border in time for this video...

@matthewaltepeter8941 Жыл бұрын

As a novice, this was a total waste of time. You showed 90% of the job, did another important 10% off camera and just said "I switch these things" but didn't show the work. The whole point of KZfaq is for visual learners. You failed miserably.