How To Use VNAV in MSFS: The Complete Guide Using the CJ4

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A Professional Pilot's overview of how to use VNAV and how to set up departures (SIDS), arrivals (STARS), how to use it in conjunction with an ILS approach. The basics of VNAV are discussed as well as questions and answers at the end of the video. The CJ4 Working Title Mod is used, but VNAV concepts are similar between aircraft and avionics types. Even though real-life scenarios are discussed, this is for use with Microsoft Flight Simulator. The system does not act 100% like a real FMS 3000 in the Collins Pro-Line 21 avionics package.
Navigraph charts are used throughout the video. For more information on Navigraph: navigraph.com
For more great flight sim info and tutorials check out flightsim.com
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - What is VNAV?
0:54 - Using VNAV on a Departure (SID)
3:12 - Using VNAV on an Arrival (STAR)
10:55 - VNAV with an ILS approach
12:29 - Viewer Questions and Answers about VNAV
15:15 - Quick Review - How To Set VNAV
PC Specs: Intel Core i9 - 9900KF - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 1TB HDD + 480GB SSD
This video is for entertainment purposes only. For use with Microsoft Flight Simulator on PC and XBOX.

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@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

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@JenniferinIllinois 3 жыл бұрын

"VNAV, greatest thing put into airplanes since engines" - LOL!!!! This is actually amazing. Sit back and watch while the aircraft descends. Brilliant! Thank you for the explanation of VNAV.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

It is true. VNAV is a close tie with FADEC and autopilot. Now we just need more VNAV capable aircraft in FS2020.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Did you like the Q&A at the end of the video? Should this be added to more videos in the future?

@evidenceplz 3 жыл бұрын

yes definitely haha

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@evidenceplz I will use my little volunteer again. She was thrilled to be in a video and ran downstairs to the microphone before I even finished asking her if she wanted to help.

@TheFalconJetDriver 3 жыл бұрын

That was my next question if that was one of your little Angels 😇🛫 Cute! She did a great Job!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheFalconJetDriver Yes, that is kid #2.

@jetsimmer 3 жыл бұрын

Yes very helpful.

@yams900 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a lot of information for brain to process, need to practice, as usual. Thanks for excellent tutorial ! Awesome graphics, red boxes helps a lot too…where to focus.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Do about 5 arrivals and remember to set the bottom altitude and to press VNAV and it will become second nature. Feel free to ask questions here or by email.

@cypher9000 3 жыл бұрын

Here I was, trying to understand VNAV in CJ4 yesterday and you post a video explaining it today. Perfect timing! Thanks!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to tell you this but yesterday I had a feeling someone out there was struggling with VNAV so this video was made. I actually started on this video over a week ago. But glad the timing was perfect for you.

@cypher9000 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Ha, almost as if you knew. Currently watching the video and it's great. Makes things much more clear. Mind you, I've not really spent time trying to find all the information online (work and all) but your short lessons are very helpful. A few things that I'd personally be interested in (again, like last time, in case you're gathering ideas for future videos) are - what are airspace classes and why would you want to or not want to use certain ones, what are flight levels and why do you sometimes have to use FLxxx and sometimes just numbers to specify your heights. Also, one thing I realised yesterday was I kind of understand ILS landing (specifically in CJ4) but I couldn't get the plane to descend automatically down the glidepath. Would VNAV be something to use for that or are there other things I need to activate for the plane to essentially do the work for me? I always end up just disengaging the AP and landing manually, which I'm assuming is completely wrong. Edit: Ah, I see you're showing the descent and intercepting the glide slope. This is too cool! :D

@Double-D_291 3 жыл бұрын

Mate, I’ve been searching for months for a clear, concise tutorial explaining exactly what the differences are AND HOW to use vnav. Your video is fantastic. PLEASE 🙏 keep up the great work. The use of a 3D version of the graph to explain the approach heights is genius! Everyone learns far better when things are visualised. Thank you so much!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

I am glad you found it and too bad I didn't make this video sooner to save you months of searching! The 3D version took a while to figure out but once I did, it was extremely easy. My next video will be on hold entries and I've discovered how to draw on the screen so there will be some fun stuff coming with that. In the meantime, there are plenty of videos on the channel to keep busy with. Thanks for watching!

@evidenceplz 3 жыл бұрын

This is so good we should be paying you for this! Also great to hear the voice of the future airline captain!!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

It is a lot of work but I have fun with it. It is great being able to interact with everyone. If people want to pay me they can share the video on forums or facebook groups to help the channel grow. That is payment enough. I'm not sure she wants to be an airline pilot but she's 6 and as long as there is plenty of candy in the house she's a happy camper.

@jmorrow51503 2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks, mate! Very much appreciate this. Very well explained a fuzzy area for me.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped. VNAV isn’t difficult when a few of the basics in the video are known.

@kiwiflier2580 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video, explained VNAV perfectly and went straight off and flew a first VNAV approach in my Hjet. Performed exactly as you said it should and excellent job with the 3d visualizations.

@thecorporatepilotdad Жыл бұрын

Good job using VNAV on the approach. VNAV is an amazing tool in the real world as well and quite easy to use. Glad you enjoyed the video. The 3D images were a last minute idea but they make a huge difference in illustrating the concept of VNAV.

@ae-ae Жыл бұрын

Excellent class! Very comprehensive and super well illustrated. The reduced usage of phrasal verbs, colloquial expressions and phrase verbs is appreciated by non native English speakers like myself. Thanks for the video!

@kraftrad7840 2 жыл бұрын

Excelent! VNAV made me crazy cause i did not know when it changes FL for me and when not

@chrispatton7215 2 жыл бұрын

Great how to video. The WT CJ4 is my go to plane in msfs 2020 because of its great vnav capabilities.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Vnav capabilities and functionality of the FMS. The FMS is so good in the CJ4 WT mod that it could be used to train pilots on the real FMS. It is very close to the real thing. They did a phenomenal job with it.

@simcaptainrik 2 жыл бұрын

I've been using the VNAV for months and really enjoyed the detailed explanation of why I'm doing this or that. Well done.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This video was enjoyable to make - especially the Q&A section at the end.

@toml7465 3 жыл бұрын

Knowing how it's done is one thing, explaining it to others in an educational and logical manner is quite another - and WOW - have you achieved that! Although I haven't learned anything new - AHEM :-) - I watched the whole thing twice just because it's THAT GOOD. And I can tell how much work and thought has gone into this. So, congratulations! Will check your other videos for sure!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. These do take a lot of work and your comments are very much appreciated.

@BrunoMCDowell Жыл бұрын

10 out of 10. Outstanding!

@PilotStudd 3 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial! Fantastic illustrations and graphics, keep it up Tim!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks B! I still want to make the graphics better. Always pushing to learn more. Flying is the same way.

@Sanctimonious007 2 жыл бұрын

You have put your heart in this video. Many thanks from an avid learner. 🙏

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for acknowledging the effort made. Lots of effort goes into these videos. It’s more than just a simulation on a computer to me. It’s a learning tool.

@Sanctimonious007 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad yes. I have seen a few VNAV vids but none as detailed and with excellent explanation and superb graphics as yours.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctimonious007 there is still more information on it not in the video. The section in the manual by Rockwell Collins on VNAV is about 30 pages long. That info was used as a guide along with actual experience with the FMS 3000.

@Sanctimonious007 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad i wouldnt get past 3 pages of that 😔

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctimonious007 I read the important parts. :)

@TheFalconJetDriver 3 жыл бұрын

Another outstanding production careful your support staff may gain more popularity🤣 Not only was it technically spot on it was not dry! It was explained with easy to follow and understanding! 😀🛫

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

My support staff is excited to help in another video. I may let her try to explain something in a video and do more than questions. When she gets too big, there is support staff person #3 ready to step in and help. He will enjoy it because he has the bug. I know this because he's 4 and if an airplane flies overhead he stops listening to whoever he is playing with, points up, and says "airplane".

@TheFalconJetDriver 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad that is cute!😀🛫

@jingle1161 2 жыл бұрын

Man, you really nailed this video. I love the pace, clarity and visual cues. Kept me engaged the whole way. Thanks!

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This video took a lot of time to make but it is one of my favorite videos to date. I'm sure it's helped a lot of people understand VNAV better and that makes the time spent on it worth it.

@stovic1442 3 жыл бұрын

Seats. Seats were a good thing too ;-) Great stuff thanks, you really know what you're talking about but more importantly how to explain it to others! It's been a great help.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Ok engines and seats. Seat belts were a great addition, too. Thanks. I try to make videos short and to the point and explain so anyone can understand them.

@vielumiereg9794 Жыл бұрын

Super clean and easy to understand, thank you! The visuals and using actual charts make a massive difference in ease of understanding.

@thecorporatepilotdad Жыл бұрын

The charts in 3D was a last minute addition but they do help with the understanding of VNAV. I’m glad it helped you understand it.

@steveclarkemedia Жыл бұрын

Excellent. Thank you. This has been puzzling me for sometime but you have given a super-clear explanation. Great stuff.

@SuperFlyCH 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, great presentation! This answered a lot of questions for me and I, for the first time, have a handle on what VNAV can and cannot do for me. Off to the CJ4 to shoot some arrivals.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

I hope I answered your questions because you asked a few and thank you for doing that. Those questions helped make the video better. I was going to answer them in the video and decided to do that Q&A at the end instead. It worked out well. Good luck on your arrivals! Let me know how they turn out.

@herwighermans5210 3 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial. Well illustrated and very informative. Good format with q&a and summary 👍👍👍

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Prior to this I didn't know how to do the basic 3D drawing but figuring it out helped illustrate what is going on with VNAV.

@weircottage 2 жыл бұрын

Lots of very clear and helpful information. Thank you!

@PilotDaveAviation 10 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks for taking your time and making the video....

@sergey79 3 жыл бұрын

Very clear explanation with good graphics! Well done!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I need graphics person. Awesome graphics really help.

@blackhelicopters 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial! Can't wait to practice more.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. By this time next week everyone will be doing VNAV arrivals and departures like its nobody's business.

@Kateyangyuqing Ай бұрын

Great tutorial, thank you

@octanejimmy 3 жыл бұрын

Ive been waiting on this one. Thanks for this great tutorial.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. This one took a week to make. I might have more in the future as I took some material out of this one.

@octanejimmy 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad I most likely would want to know how do you determine what SID/STAR is going to be used or are you told everytime? Can you kind of guess or is it a crapshoot?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@octanejimmy it is a crap shoot. We can see recently cleared routes when we file a flight plan, but some airports may have several arrivals coming from the same direction. If another arrival is assigned we just program it in the FMS. ATC usually gives a fix on the new arrival to go direct to.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@octanejimmy I answered this last night but it didn't go through (I think), so if you see it twice, sorry. We file the route that is the most recently cleared route by ATC. The arrival will be on the frequently cleared route on the flight planning website I use. That is what is filed but clearance may give a different arrival. Enroute, once closer to the destination, Center will sometimes issue a new STAR (Arrival). They will gives us the new arrival and have us go direct to a fix on it. They will say, "N12345 you are now cleared to (Destination) via direct FIX/WAYPOINT and the WHATEVER arrival, maintain FL 400."

@octanejimmy 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad thanks for that brother. It always seemed that atleast with built in ATCs they give you your arrival then immediatly start giving you vectors. Is that realistic or do they have you follow the STAR?

@virtualDon 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice! I always learn something from watching your vids :-)

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Don. You are the controller I reached out to in the video. Way to go!

@TBizzleII 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos, content, guests and graphics just keep getting better and it is appreciated! The 3D charts and altitudes really explain it well. The Longitude does not have a working VNAV yet, is that correct?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I enjoy the graphics and have some ideas for future videos. The last I checked, the Longitude does not have working VNAV. Nothing in FS2020 has it except the CJ4 WTM, A320 FBW (but it's broken right now?), and the CRJ has advisory VNAV. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

3 жыл бұрын

Very well done!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I might do a part 2 eventually. Some stuff was taken out because I decided to keep it simple.

@MouldyGuitars 6 ай бұрын

Aah this answered my issue. You DO have to set ALT and it needs to be above targets for climb and below for descent. That’s the bit I didn’t know 😊

@thecorporatepilotdad 6 ай бұрын

Correct. Top altitude (found on a SID) needs to go in the altitude selector. Bottom altitude goes in the altitude selector which will be the lowest altitude found on the route for the arrival procedure being flown. VNAV will honor altitudes in the FMS until the altitude selector altitude is reached and the altitude selector altitude is always the limiting factor.

@mxcollin95 11 ай бұрын

Good stuff! 🤙

@edwardwright5464 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Excellent job. Caused me subscribe. Thank you.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This video caused me to research VNAV more than I ever have before. Learned a lot making it.

@Paul-kt5of 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks sooooo much for that I did know how it works but you are explaining it so good ;)

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and you are welcome! This video was a lot of effort but well worth it.

@jakew9887 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video. Thanks

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

@bluesfool1 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are awesome 👏

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The VNAV video did much better than I ever expected and it should continue to do so.

@flightsimmer7410 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation 👍👍👍

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@arthursattar6572 3 жыл бұрын

The best explanation

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. The graphics help a lot. I will be doing more VNAV stuff in the future.

@timpaterson6278 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Good to see you got corporate pilot kids helping you! In the real world, what if you run into weather on the way down? Can you stay high and dive down?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

The Corporate Pilot Kid #2 was super excited to help. As far as bad weather and staying high, sometimes. We always ask and ATC is usually very willing to help. If we have to descend, they will issue/or we will ask for a vector around storms.

@5milessep 3 жыл бұрын

What an absolutely fantastic video 👍👍👍. And the addition of your little volunteer adds so nicely to the Dad part of your handle 😊. I often get into some type of mode confusion with VNAV whereby it’s not doing what I think it was suppose to be doing. So I got into a habit where instead of changing modes, say from VS to VNAV, I’d press the VS to deactivate it first and then press VNAV to activate that. But clearly as you show, that’s not necessary. I’d be keen if you could do a topic on the difference between VNAV, LNAV/VNAV and LVP approaches with specific reference on what is used on the CJ4 ? Again thanks for the effort of producing a great training reference. Edit I meant LPV

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

LNAV, LNAV/VNAV, LPV. I have thought about this but haven't done it yet. As soon as I find my list I'll write it down. Thanks for the compliment on the video. My little helper loves hearing herself on the internet. The other little helpers might be reading/repeating some questions in the future. Glad this one was helpful to you.

@glen4cindy 2 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome video. I live by KSTL and have a FlightRadar24 tracker. It's very cool watching the planes fly these arrivals and departures.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I’ve flown in and out of and over STL many times.

@glen4cindy 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad I hope you can answer a question for me. It's related to this approach. I was watching planes land one day on 30L/30R. Per this STAR they should be flying SSKOT, EADDS, OSHIE.... etc according to the FlightAware flight plan they flew KYIRA, JAAKK, CHOTO, etc as if it was a 12L/12R approach. Why would this happen? Thanks for your time.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

@@glen4cindy It looks like FlightAware has the filed route vs the route that was actually cleared (which would include changes, shortcuts, different arrivals). That being said, if the airport was switched around and the opposite runway was used due to a change in wind direction, this change would not be shown on flightaware.

@glen4cindy 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks. Appreciate your response.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

@@glen4cindy You are welcome. Any time.

@nizo8451 2 жыл бұрын

Good video

@artalvar55 3 жыл бұрын

With those attendees helping the Q&A is quite refreshing and nothing can go wrong. It seems, future Coportae pilots as well as dad. Congrats. Very refreshing and unique. I am wondering, sice the FD is stil unable to fly let say VOR/DME Arcs Apps, what would be the best way to fly these type of apps in the CJ4. Hopefully in the near future, the WT mod will include it ,so we can do it soon fully AUTO. Best regards.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

That style Q&A with my little assistant will have to be in another video. That was fun. To go DME arcs.. the FMS won't fly them but that same FMS in real life will fly them. They can be done. I did a DME arc tutorial a few weeks ago. The same method would be used but the bearing pointer could be used for position on the arc instead of twisting an OBS (but that way can still be used).

@artalvar55 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks. I'll check it out on your videos' section. Hopefully Working Title would include it soon or in the near future. It seems to me, would be the "cherry of the cake" with this great ProLine iteration..

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@artalvar55 DME Arcs are easy in the airplane. If an arc is on the approach it will be associated with a letter and the arc distance is that letter's place in the alphabet. DME B would be 2 DME, Z would be 26, etc. One of those arcs (if 2 or more) would be selected for the appropriate arc for the transition. I have a feeling that FMS will be 100% like the real thing someday.

@artalvar55 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thank you. I've already watch the video. I was just wondering if there was "another" way of doing it. The only thing with the CJ4 is just the IAS in order to follow and not to overshoot the turns. I hope they have it done on the FMS soon as well. Thanks again and have a great day.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@artalvar55 Usually in an approach environment 140-160 outside the FAF and be slowed down to Vapp upon being full gear and flaps. If you're doing 140 start the turn to intercept the arc around 1.4 NM If 160, 1.6 NM before the arc.

@kokoeteantigha389 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this. Right now, I've been VNav-ing with the PMDG 737 and to save me the bother, I usually dial in the next coloured altitude in the FMC. Is that a good idea or not?

@thecorporatepilotdad Жыл бұрын

In the real world, ATC will clear an aircraft to descend via an arrival. The lowest altitude at the end of the arrival is set in the altitude selector and VNAV is then armed. Check the fixes and altitudes on the chart being flown to make sure the altitudes match, then let VNAV do what it does.

@rawfpv 2 ай бұрын

I've tried the hyland7 departure out of Logan after watching this video over and over and can't get the stock CJ4 to follow the alt restrictions on multiple runways ... What am I missing? Can't seem to figure it out.

@TheRealBigT1984 2 жыл бұрын

Just got FS2020 for Xbox and am very much a flying noob. Maybe I misheard you, but I usually use the ILS for my autopilot arrivals, will VNAV not work for those types of approaches? Great video!

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

VNAV is used on arrivals (STARs) but it can be used on departures as well as ILS approaches but only up to the point right before the glide slope is intercepted. In the airplanes I fly in real life, when the localizer is selected and made the primary source, the VNAV information drops out. Simply stated, you can use VNAV to get down to the glide slope intercept altitude the way it is in the video on the ILS approach after the STAR in to STL.

@causeyt1 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. What, if any, assistance options do you use? VNAV does not seem to work for me, especially in the 747. I wonder if assistance options could interfere. I have rudder assistance on and ATC handled by the co-pilot. I do not have landing or takeoff assistance on. Thanks for any advice.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

I do not use any assistance options. VNAV in the video was used with the CJ4 Working Title mod. If you are on PC, you can download the mod at www.workingtitle.aero The B747 or any other default aircraft do not have working VNAV. However, you can download the Garmin G1000 NXi in the Marketplace and I believe that has working VNAV. Hopefully, working VNAV will come to all MSFS default aircraft in the near future.

@causeyt1 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thank you for the quick reply and thanks again for the great videos.

@jetsimmer 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Does VNAV & Auto-Throttle work in the Citation Longitude? If not do you think Working Title Group will be doing any Mod work on the Longitude?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Autothrottle works but the last I checked, VNAV did not. Since WTM is part of the whole Microsoft/Asobo group it makes me wonder if they'll bring the same functionality to any of the default aircraft.

@jetsimmer 3 жыл бұрын

How do you get the auto throttle to work? Do you put the selector knob on "FMS" or "MAN"?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@jetsimmer In the Longitude, you have to select it and then press the engage button down on the throttle. I am not sure the FMS speeds will do anything with the default aircraft. I would select manual and see what that does. My Longitude has been "collecting dust".

@crawl3ysnipe 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this. I am fairly new to using a lot of the systems. My question is kind of two fold. First, I looked at the chart you used for departure and I could not figure out how you got the 2000 altitude. Second, are there "rules" for the climb except for the initial? I have stopped using in game ATC because it never matches the FL from Simbrief. It's always way lower, but I have no idea how to climb. Is it just a free climb? Sorry to be clear as mud. If it helps, you got a sub out of it lol.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for subscribing. If you look at the RUUDY 6 departure, the block in the bottom right corner shows top altitude 2000'. That is the altitude ATC expects the aircraft to climb to. This can change based on a different altitude being given in the clearance in which case, that new altitude is the limit. When on a departure, the "Top Altitude" or the clearance altitude is the altitude you will go to but you have to meet the restrictions on the chart first. In this case, cross WENTZ at 1500 and after that go to 2000 because there are no other restrictions and that was the clearance (if told climb via the SID). Years ago there was another fix on this departure called TASCA and we hit WENTZ at 1500 and TASCA at 2000. TASCA was taken out because it was assumed we're going to 2000 feet after the 1500 foot mandatory crossing at WENTZ. If that isn't clearer than mud let me know. I do not use in game ATC either. VatSim is free and PilotEdge is 20 bucks a month for 1 sector and it is spot on in terms of realism.

@crawl3ysnipe 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thx for replying. When it says "top altitude", is that for the departure or the whole flight? At what point do you start a climb to cruise? I think that is where I get lost mostly.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@crawl3ysnipe That is just for the departure. IRL, the climb is commenced by ATC. They will give the climb based on traffic so they won't give a climb straight to cruise altitude unless it's really slow (usually late at night) and even then there will be level offs before climbing higher.

@crawl3ysnipe 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad Ok. Great. Thanks again.

@HazyJ28 6 ай бұрын

What about ATC though? Wont they cancel my IFR plan if I deviate from my assigned altitude? How does that work? Can I use VNAV and still stay within ATC commands?

@thecorporatepilotdad 6 ай бұрын

VNAV can be used anywhere an altitude restriction exists such as an altitude at the FAF on an approach, any waypoint where an altitude can be selected in the FMS, or on an arrival or departure. In real life “descend via the xyz arrival” will be heard and VNAV is set up. The in-game ATC in MSFS is terrible. It’s best to turn it off and use VatSim, a paid ATC service, or just go where you want, when you want.

@paulphibbs5362 3 жыл бұрын

I encountered situations where the VPATH indicator comes down but the plane doesn't descend. The lower limit is entered into the Altimeter. I end up manually using VS to use the recommended descent to catch the profile. I also get PATH with a line through it when the descent doesn't work. Can you advise what's going on here please?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Path with a line through it means VNAV cannot capture the path from above just like the AP won't capture the GS from above. When that happens, VS or FLC will have to be selected and descend down to it just like you would if you had to capture as Glide Slope from above. With the latest update I haven't had an issue of the AP not capturing and following VPATH. What arrival/approach were you doing when it didn't capture? If you have the bottom altitude (or a lower altitude than the current) and VNAV selected (which is sounds like you did) it should follow the Path when the VNAV deviation pointer moves down and centers.

@virtualDon 3 жыл бұрын

I know it's a bit off topic but I would love to see a video on departure procedures. Specifically, how you set up to fly a radar vector departure vs a SID and so on. The nav part is not hard but I struggle with speeds and climb rate. It seems that every time I try to transition to FLC mode it ignores my speed setting and just keeps accelerating. I have to throttle back to 240 knots or less, turn off then re-engage FLC, set the IAS to 240 and only then can I throttle back to climb mode. In the G1000 I could pre-select my VS climb rate and FLS IAS but that doesn't seem to work here.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

We should do some FS2020 screen sharing on Discord. It will be a while before I can get to that video.

@virtualDon 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad sounds cool, I'm up for it! I think the departure vid would be interesting, though. Especially in conjunction with ATC clearances, say, from PilotEdge or VatSim. It's easy to plan your departure and just take off and fly but when you get assigned a heading and altitude or cleared via an unexpected SID it would be cool to see how things are handled.

@aviatortrucker6198 3 жыл бұрын

Very good but not all aircraft on MS Simulator have VNAV working. I fly the TBM-930 and the VNAV didn’t work nor does it save the info if I save flight and exit the sim until another time. Any suggestions?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

You're right and I wish VNAV worked in the TBM. A better GPS and VNAV and the TBM would be an amazing airplane in the sim. For that, I suggest planning to hit the bottom altitudes on an arrival. One jet I flew IRL in the past did not have VNAV but so we would just aim for the bottom altitudes on arrivals. All the descents would be figured out in our heads concerning required rate of descent.

@9611279300 2 жыл бұрын

Hi , just want to know if you are using VNAV then how to get data for Lateral navigation or we have to check the Jepsen charts for lateral

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

A departure, arrival, or approach would be loaded in the FMS. Altitudes will be shown for each waypoint that should match any "expect" or "at, at or below, at or above, etc" on the chart. A fix can be entered manually, and the altitude placed across from that waypoint on the FMS if given a crossing restriction at that waypoint.

@RyanRCRacing 2 жыл бұрын

Can I just press the VNAV button when I am at cruise altitude? Will it be able to take control of the altitude adjustments going in for approach?

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

You could but if the ALT SEL isn’t set to a lower altitude it will stay at the altitude in the altitude selector. If the approach is loaded it will observe the altitudes on the approach as shown in the section of the video with the ILS approach.

@FlySweden 2 жыл бұрын

Hi again, this time I am wondering why the VNAV function doesn't follow the step descent. It seems to be descending continuously. Also, when the chart indicates that you should fly between 11000 and 13000 ft for example, what is the chosen altitude by the AP ? Thanks

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

It will fly between 11000 and 13000. VNAV may hit 11 or 13 or neither. It may be looking at the next altitude restriction and if it can hit that altitude at a smoother rate of descent and still cross between 11-13k, it will. VNAV will meet altitude restrictions. To know which altitude it will go to next look at the flight mode annunciator. If it says VALTS it will stop at the altitude in the altitude selector. VALTV will level next at the flight plan target altitude which is in the FMS and it shows up in magenta above and to the right of the altitude tape.

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

And these are great questions!

@FlySweden 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your answers, I will let you know if I am more questions !

@neutrino7704 3 жыл бұрын

I can't read the plate displayed at the beginning of the video because of the artifical perspective applied and the 'More Videos' link across the top of it. :(

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

What kind of device were you watching on?

@yuchenli4641 3 жыл бұрын

I was just flying a short flight and reached my cruise altitude. I selected VNAV, set my desired altitude for descent, but I see PATH in the flight mode annunciator was crossed out, and TOD was not shown when I checked MFD. Does this mean I have missed my TOD (could be my cruise altitude was too high)? Or could there be anything wrong with my FMS setup?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

It means you are too high or too low. I had that in the video and took it out. If you select VS (VVS will display on FMA) and dive faster the magenta donut on the VS tape (which is the required rate to the next constraint) PATH will come back.

@yuchenli4641 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad I did try to use VS to descent, the PATH returned but stayed in white all the way (so I wasn't able to recapture the VPATH, probably because I was way too off to save it, the magenta donut didn't show up until the last minute of descent). I just used VS to take me to my last altitude constraint and continued with APPR mode from there. And thanks for the great tutorial!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@yuchenli4641 Thinking on the fly (no pun intended) and making it do what you needed it to is the correct answer. That happens in real life and when the airplane isn't doing what you want it to, take over manually and do what needs to be done.

@danmoretti8898 Жыл бұрын

I'm a little confused why you didn't just use FLC and set the speed to 200 knots for the class-B airspace rather than using VS + throttle. Can you comment on that?

@thecorporatepilotdad Жыл бұрын

If we are talking about the same part of the arrival, the aircraft was slowed to 210 knots based on the published speeds on the arrival and 210 was the slowest speed for the last 3 fixes. 200 knots below the B would not be used because on the ARRCH2 arrival at 5,000 feet, the aircraft is inside class bravo airspace where the limit is 250. FLC could have been used but FLC is a vertical mode just as VS is. For either mode, throttles are still used since the CJ4 does not have auto throttles. In the real world, I use VS exclusively in descents because FLC can be a bit erratic in some airplanes. Both modes work but comes down to personal preference.

@danmoretti8898 Жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad of course, that makes a ton of sense. Thanks for commenting on that, really appreciate the response and the content. I should have been more specific, my question was directed toward the very beginning of the video right after you took off - by that time I normally have my throttle in the climb detent, so in my inexperienced brain I was thinking of it as a pseudo auto throttle. Anyway, thanks 🙏

@tomasradnic8874 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question: how does this work with the ATC? Your Vnav says you should descent. So you ask ATC for descent?

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

No, ATC will tell you to descend to an altitude or say "Cleared to descend via the (insert name of arrival)." When you hear that, set the bottom altitude and press VNAV and wait for the PATH to be intercepted and then captured and become VPATH.

@tomasradnic8874 3 жыл бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad oh, i hope the'll incorporate this in MSFS :D The descents ATC is giving are always way too steep.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomasradnic8874 it works with the CJ4 with the Working Title mod. It will come eventually to the rest hopefully.

@RobertHopkinsArt 3 жыл бұрын

Climb and maintain 2000 ft? I did not pick up on where the 2000 came from: 1:32. This was where my pause was. It must be on the FP. No big thing.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

It is in the bottom right corner of the SID. You will see TOP ALTITUDE and 2000 inside the box on the plate.

@RobertHopkinsArt 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Question: Say we put in ALT/5000, at FL310 and start our VNAV decent, this happens when ATC tells us to. Will ATC bitch-slap us if we are descending to quickly/slowly or does ATC have it within their systems to see that our glide-path, based upon VNAV makes sense since it lines up with the approach sheet? In these kinds of situations and discussions it would be cool to see what ATC is seeing on their monitors and how they interpret "our" data. PS: Does your wife have a cold? :) My wife's voice is "so high" that when salesman would call the house, many years ago, they would always ask: Can I speak to your mommy? LOL!

@yvesberard1563 3 жыл бұрын

Excusez moi, vous avez des sous titres en Français

@fishboyswim32 2 жыл бұрын

So no tutorial on programming it?

@thecorporatepilotdad 2 жыл бұрын

Select an arrival, approach, or enter altitudes manually for VNAV. There are other videos on my channel showing how to program the FMS from start to finish for a flight.

@freddielo4330 3 жыл бұрын

Next... LNAV

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

LNAV/NAV just flies left and right along the center of the course.

@yvesberard1563 3 жыл бұрын

Désolé, dans votre vidéo serait il possible de sous titrer en Français comme le font beaucoup

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Je vais m’en occuper.

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

Essayez-le maintenant. Faites-moi savoir si cela a fonctionné. J’utilise Google Translate.

@yvesberard1563 3 жыл бұрын

Ce produit est vendu en FRANCE, et une expression orale en Français serai plus adaptée !!!!!

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

L’anglais est la langue officielle de l’aviation.

@riflemusket 10 ай бұрын

VNAV is broken on Xbox since the update in June. 🤨

@thecorporatepilotdad 10 ай бұрын

That is too bad and the first I've heard of this. Is VNAV broken on all airplanes? I have MSFS on XBOX but only play on PC.

@riflemusket 10 ай бұрын

@@thecorporatepilotdad yes, on multiple aircraft I have tried including C172 and Grand Caravan. Cannot set up low-level IFR using World Map without it glitching. MSFS Support is aware of the issue but don’t have a fix.

@JottyHB 3 жыл бұрын

The ads are interrupted too often. 😢

@Maverick_1b 3 жыл бұрын

JJTVism, realize how much time goes into these videos, and the ads help the creators make a tiny tiny amount of money, (super tiny). I don't mind the ads. Flight school costs alot more than the 15 seconds the ads take up. and there's a skip button. No biggie. :)

@salemi771 3 жыл бұрын

Good video but this simulator is terrible. It’s nice for GA. But pretty is not for me

@thecorporatepilotdad 3 жыл бұрын

FS2020 certainly does have its issues but it will get better. That's why I am such a huge fan of the CJ4 WTM. It actually works the way I expect the ProLine 21 to work considering the platform it is in. The airliners and any default jet were huge letdowns.