Yes. A flippant line said by Beru that was a rote thing to say (along with the reply) has taken on a deeper meaning since Lucas evolved the story. Despite ESB + ROTJ, I believe Star Wars was a stand alone film. The fans (which I am one) will probably vilify me for the truth, but Lucas even said it once (before the sequels began - and I AM NOT going to find it).

@sexobscura well of course it was. And then it wasn't. That's the nature of a retcon. Adding context to something that previously didn't have any adds meaning that previously wasn't there. But if it's done well, it can be like poetry, and it can all sort of rhyme and go together.

@@drigondii and you're correct. If only Lucas showed some humility in the playing out of his story, instead of claiming to be the All Conquering puppeteer

@@sexobscura that's artsy Hollywood directors for you. They all think they're God's gift to Earth.

That channel blessed us with three amazing Star Wars videos and then dropped from the face of the Earth. But we still got some solid content from him nonetheless.

True

@pyropulse Huh? They lie about things that have meaning to them personally.

@@filiperoque1801 There's a part in his 2nd "Apocrypha" video, i.e. the ST critique, where Nerdonymous heavily misrepresents at least two bits from TLJ: Says Luke "runs away from his apprentice" after seeing how powerful she was - in truth he was afraid that she'd go dark after not resisting that cave influence, but continued with his lessons afterward. And then he says Rey leaves him because of how bitter and useless he is, when in fact the main (if not only?) reason she left was because of the conversations with Ren and her belief he could be turned. Hilariously enough, that 2nd misrepresentation is identical to one made by Plinkett, who also has a bias against TLJ - but blamed in on his son Rian Johnson, and not "Lucas' original outline" which he thought had been COMPLETELY thrown out; contrary to Nerdonymous' implication lol. So yeah he's not perfect either, as it turns out - however for all I know, the percentage of this kinda stuff in his 3 videos is extremely low.

@@filiperoque1801 what channel?

Same as me my friend; although I always loved Lucas, Rick made me appreciate his art in a newfound and outright fulfilling way.

I also highly recommend the Paul Duncan interview on Star Wars Theory's channel, if you want more Paul Duncan content. The SWT Roger Christian interview is pretty good, too.

Which really undermines the anti Lucas argument that the original films were "Saved" from him

I can’t tell if that analogy is a statement of fear or respect, or both.

@@greenstuff3706 I'd say it was an admission of authority

@@onemoreminute0543 That’s accurate too. I said “fear or respect” since one would obviously respect a great artist if they you were helping to helm one of their greatest projects, but at the same time, you’d likely be nervous about not living up to their standards.

@@greenstuff3706 I suppose in that case it may have both been fear and respect

No way I watch your vids too!

when he started showing clips of those dipshits talking about the Mona Lisa I was rubbing my hands together with glee lmao and boy did he sink that shot like a proton torpedo down an exposed exhaust port

I found this channel thanks to your post

You should also check out a great video about phantom menace on the channel style is substance.

@@jacktrap8751 thanks

Wow. RLM really tried to make the prequels look as bad as possible. Like seriously who cares about robes? I wouldn't have been surprised if they tried to make an argument that John Williams score in the prequels was somehow bad.

@@Foobie07 "Battle of the Heroes was too fast" 😂

@@AardvarkDK How do you know he always wore that outfit while on Tatooine?

@@AardvarkDK He didn't change because the symbolic robes now had a practical use, and he didn't need to change, because on Tatooine everyone is dressed like that (like desert dwellers in real life), so he wouldn't automatically stand out as a Jedi as long as he didn't wave his lightsaber around in public. Not really a problem.

@@alfredvickers4054 Great point.

Thanks!

I agree. A lot of George Lucas's intentions in his movies are highly misunderstood and wrongly criticized. I mean, they act like it's such a big deal to go back and make changes to his work. It's nothing new, things like this are done all the time to movies🤷.

Lucas DID and still does deserve the backlash because he is 100% responsible for the Special Editions and the Prequels. People are allowed to speak up if they don’t like something.

Most of it just seems like bad color correction, but I'm not gonna throw a fit over it like special edition haters.

Which one is the standart version of LOTR? Cause I don't remember blue font...

It really is. It feels like a word game that has to be played. If the SEs had been branded as the "Director's Cut" they may have a whole different psychology around them. Heck, it has become a fan meme to demand the "Lucas Cut" of the Disney Trilogy. Terminator 2 and Titanic both had "tweaks" when given 3D remasters. Mostly just to fix goofs and mistakes. As we have seen, between the color grading and minor vfx tweaks...the 4K LOTR are in many ways a whole new version of the films even if editorially they are the same. Worth mentioning that LOTR has basically always existed in 2 versions on film and most fans outright dismiss the theatrical cuts over the Extended Editions....even though the theatrical cuts are "what we saw in theaters" and "the versions that won Oscars" and every other superficial thing they used against the Special Editions.

@@ChrisPeteG Great point when comparing the extended editions of TLOTR to the Star Wars revisions! I still need to see the extended editions. I don't care if my bladder is going to burst even harder by the end of ROTK- I NEED DA TOLKIEN!

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p I believe the blue tint first appeared with the blu ray release

Based and artistic integrity pilled

Wow you've already finished it? Legend.

Oh so if da Vinci woke up and decided to smear pink paint on the Mona Lisa you'd be OK with that simply because he was the one that made it? Yea didn't think so. I swear its like you people never think of these things.

Artists dint have a right at that point

the middle is disingenuous. he compares lucas to other directors who made various subsequent versions and cuts of their own films when this is beside the point. people aren’t mad at george for making new versions of star wars, they’re mad because he goes out of his way to make the non special editions inaccessible and has said he wants them to fade out of history. none of those other directors ever made their original cuts impossible to access officially and said they wanted the new cuts to be the only versions available. that’s why people are mad at george

what are you talking about. This was 3 hours of what-about-isms

Love thy neighbour as thyself, unless he's Turkish.

@@username45739 Uhhhhhh.... what?

@@username45739 Plato?

@@markpostgate2551 Voltaire

@aidelton5876 Oh come on, Voltaire's French. If it was Voltaire he would have said "Italian"!

Cathartic even!

Yeah this was a great brainwashing session. I wondered how Mao did in China NOW I KNOW LMAO

Biased appreciation, I’d say. He’s as flawed as people are opposing these changes from a personal level on their other part,.. If you can’t be critical to things when there are situations that do arise, possibilities for it - then there’s no need to put anything forward out there. Then it’s just another opinion spread, that doesn’t ground itself in anything unbiased - but simply is to your personal taste. And, that’s fine. We all have one! But talking about it on a level that makes it all sound elevated and unbiased is completely ludicrous then. There’s nothing honest about it. Simply call it a love letter to sir Lucas. That’s it,..

@@Justusson the argument is simple: an artist has the absolute right to do whatever he wants with his work and it had been this way since the dawn of time. For all your mighty talk you haven't made one proper argument against that and as such I conclude that you didn't even understand that that was the point being made in the first place.

@@servus_incognitus “Absolute right” and “Mighty talk”? You’re definitely American, no? Regardless, that’s clueless,.. The argument is simple and always has been: The moment you hand your work over to the public, it becomes “theirs”. One of the first things I learned in art school. It always has - throughout The Sistine Chapel, Mona Lisa and what not. It’s only until recently that media has become streamed and digital. All other directors and companies are rescanning their old movies in 4K without changes: the Goonies, labyrinth, ghostbusters, Lord of the ring. George Lucas is the only one who doesn’t. Peter Jackson even made a slight joke about it. Absolute right?,.. jeeez, grow up.

Come on, he gave ESB to Kurtz becaue he was sure iit would be a flop. He got greedy and sold it off to the highest bidder

Out of context that sounds wrong.

No...the prequels were sad!

@@arthurhall8238 Grandpa if you keep running your mouth I'm turning off your oxygen machine

​@Arthur Hall, they were sad. It's always tragic when the hero becomes the villain. Revenge of the Sith is definitely the saddest of them for that reason. Fortunately, the story doesn't end there, and ultimately, the saga has a happy ending for Anakin Skywalker in Return of the Jedi. 😊

Someone pointed this interview out to me before I finished the video, and I tend to believe it's true. But as it comes from Matt Wood and not directly from Lucas, and either way in the end the point is that Lucas decided to not have the scream in the movie, it doesn't really change what I had to say about it, and since the video was already so long, I decided against spending more time talking about this change.

Matthew Wood! A bit shorter than I expected...

Only as weird as any other individual. And, hey, your weirdness is boosting this video in the algorithm, so there's something to think about.

Not weird. Thanks for the comments.

@@BlackScreenProductions125 no

@@firestriker3580 fym?

You shouldn't have tried to fit in with others because most people are shit, and only think what they say and believe are the only truth.

The theatrical cuts were released in 2006 as a bonus disc alongside the 2004 cut. The only problem is that they look small on widescreen TVs and are better to be played on old 4:3 TVs (for those that still have one).

I'm right there with you man.

Sorry for the long comment, but I want to make clear my point as much as possible. I still think the theatrical cuts matters and they should release them in an official dvd/blu-ray. 2006 dvds are hard to get nowadays, and many vhs copies just won't work in a few years. This question is not about nostalgia, is about preserving the movies how they were originally, how people saw them at the cinemas. It's good there are unofficial remastered versions of the theatricals, but whatever the good they are, they're still unofficials, illegals. Can you imagine if it would be illegal to access at the original version of a well known painting, or it would be illegal to access at the original version of a book wich has been modified trough the time? The fact that getting the original version of a movie is illegal, is as bad as would be bad that. I really don't want the movies become lost media with time, and I say that as 2000's kid who grow up with the remastered versions

Just out of interest, does that mean there is nothing now that you don't like about the revisions? For me, the sound and visual enhancements were amazing, but the big obvious CGI additions (mostly creatures) are the only thing I really object to. They've aged worse than any of the practical stuff and in far less time. I think it's fair to say that it was an almost perfect attempt at upscaling the original releases, but George went too far in just a few places. Of course mine is a centrist, balanced opinion that is uninteresting on internet forums.

@@alessiospurio They do, I agree. It was those that lit the fire and won the awards. The original Star Wars doesn't look bad, it just looks like an effects film that came out in 1977, go figure. Have the special editions by all means, but allow the originals their place too. Never hurt Blade Runner.

I feel exactly the same way. I never want to see Return of the Jedi without Hayden Christensen ever again.

It's baffling how this is actually one of the main talking points those bashing the special editions often have a problem with. How is it more consistent to use an Anakin that he never looked like at any point in time as the basis of his appearance rather than the last time he was a Jedi? Some people try and argue against it with it not being fair on the original actor and his efforts, yet seem to stay quiet about David Prowse's role as Darth Vader being replaced with Sebastian Shaw when his helmet was removed despite Prowse's personal gripes with this.

I hate this change,...which is ironic as Return of the Jedi is just a "meh" movie for me that I haven't seen from beginning to end since the 1980's. That being said, Shaw is the image of the redeemed Anakin, and the only version of his father Luke has seen,...and like just twenty minutes earlier I might add. Luke wouldn't recognize Hayden, so George needs to cgi in a confused look onto Luke's face over that smile. Hayden represents the youngling slayer side of Anakin (especially since he did it long before he even became a Jedi). When I see Hayden, I see evil, when I see Shaw I see that happy-go-lucky slave boy we met in Phantom Menace finally come back. Its just more of George's ass-backwards logic, just like the Han/Greedo thing.

Same here. I remember watching all 6 films in chronological order when I was younger and seeing Hayden as the Force ghost was such a delight. It was like seeing an old friend again after he's been separated for so long. Easily my favourite change to the originals, due to the greater thematic weight it brought to the ending

Imagine watching the whole series in order for the first time. The protagonist of the first trilogy falls, and then so much time passes, he turns to evil, and at the end you see the same guy from all those movies ago show up, redeemed. Way more powerful than having the bloke from the original cut still fade in.

"revisionism" is often a negative buzzword when Star Wars is involved but I assure you I don't mean it that way.

Well ot com as well

@@VinVonVoom Revisionism is bad when applied to dead authors or history though, i think it must be contextualized on a case to case basis.

​@@orlandofurioso7329Revisionism is the study of history in an attempt to revise the historical record of something that has been presented falsely

Thank you!

@@rickworley9081 “George Lucas may be the brainchild behind Star Wars; he may have come up with the story and a lot of the characters, but everyone who participated in making those films had some type of creative input. I mean they won an Oscar for best special effects. Some of those effects are stripped out and replaced with CGI enhancements, if you wanna call them that. I think that that's really disrespectful to the people who worked on those models and did those shots.”-Jay Sylvester, The People VS George Lucas

@@Dino23968, nice job using a dumbass quote that Rick literally addresses in the very video you're commenting on. Which says one of two things: One, you didn't watch the video in full (in which case, you're just being lazy), or two, you did watch it in full, and watched Rick address it, and you're just throwing it in his face because... reasons (in which case, you're acting like a total dumbass).

@@Dino23968 you better be mocking that quote lmao

@@anomalyinc3239 It’s what he said

Thanks!

I'd also highly recommend the videos of Nerdonymous.

@@JamesSmith-bg6dk Nerdonymous is also awesome. I wonder where he is nowadays, though.

@@_Wakaz_ his videos *are* awesome, though *that* video is a little harder to recommend due to the large amount of defecation and diarrhea jokes (especially if you’ve never seen Ace Ventura, like me)

@@LinkinMark1994 "The truth is, Lucas didn't know what the hell he was doing when filming Star Wars, and so wasted the entire budget filming lots of animals pooping. Luckily, he had an ingenious editing team. Now, if an editor is particularly skilled, they can make any image how they want it. They simply turned animals pooping into the iconic film we have today"

They describe him as having the 'mind of a child', which I find fitting as he made films for children. Fans: "Ok George. It's called a LIGHTSABER. Say lightsaber". Lucas: "Ligh-ligh..." Fans:"Yes..." Lucas: "L-l-... LASER SWORD!" Fans: *demonic screeching*

Retards overcomplicate things that are incredibly simple to try and trick people into thinking they're not retards. George Lucas is a genius - I wouldn't be surprised if he's the most intelligent person in the entire film industry, aside from maybe James Woods - and he gets straight to the point because he knows what he's talking about.

Mike Stoklasa is a failed filmmaker and nothing more

@@pikarari filtered

RLM is stupid, dishonest, or both

Once more George Lucas will rule the franchise, and we shall have... peace.

I like the 97 release. 2004 is good. After that, I’ll take Empire’s changes.

Cool levelheads have always been aware of the good parts from the SEs, which weren't their totality.

​@@username45739 but there are also some really bad changes The jabba scene, luke screaming while falling on bespin and the vader nooooooo

look up "Harmy's Star Wars de-specialized edition" its a fan made film preservation of the original theatrical releases. (happy May the 4th) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o62ii7Jjt6refJs.htmlsi=7CBxzeAGwKXpJ7xV

It does exist, he's just being obtuse

Haha my cats too!

Yeah the shit is loud as a mf on a laptop. plus you could add never before seen sequences and touch up the digital effects

I was actually watching that part with my kitten, funnily enough. He certainly got shocked too.

My dog started growling.

the shitty fan edit you mean

​@@anomalyinc3239sadly the "shitty fan edit" is better than the official version of the movie lol

So in other words you want to be able to decide what changes are made.

@@brucewayne1662 it doesnt have to be me, anyone not utterly delusional could figure this shit out properly lmao

You're watching in episode order, right?

@@LiveHedgehog yep! 1-6. My wife and I are watching one a night. It’s seriously about time for people to take a fresh, unfettered look at what George wanted to accomplish with these films… without all of the snarky baggage

@@robbieward765 Yeah, I completely agree. Plus he titled them 1-6 for a reason!

Attack of the Clones is one of the most underrated movies of all time the last 45 minutes is pure Star Wars and it *just. keeps. escalating.* what a fucking movie

@@pikarari I couldn’t help but compare what the AOTC was offering up in comparison to anything to be found in the sequels (i.e. more storm troopers, more x-wings, more tie fighters) and was just gobsmacked. It may be the clunkiest of the 6 films in my opinion, but for god’s sake: A neon-soaked car chase, obi-wan on a noir-ish detective adventure, an old fashioned, sweeping, melodramatic courtship, a “The Searchers” style vengeance quest, political intrigue, a Ray Harryhausen execution arena, Yoda fighting CHRISTOPHER LEE. And more…. George Lucas has more creativity in his toenail clippings than J.J. could ever dream of.

Almost 4 lol

It was almost seven before I buckled down and started cutting back. Haha. There's a lot to talk about.

@@rickworley9081 by not releasing the seven hour cut you are doing an injustice to art culture and preservation.

@@rickworley9081 #ReleaseTheWorleyCut

Will you release a condensed special edition directors cut? Preferably under 15 minutes.. I feel most won't have time or attention spans to properly watch from start to fin.

Same here, I found the implication of their fight to be very satisfying from an artistic approach. Love all the fights even Episode IV’s less stellar fight. People forgot about two shots where there was a bit of more than just sticks hitting one another, Vader was close to getting Obi before Luke even arrived.

I was a kid when I saw that, and I loved that scene so much! The red glow was so intense to me!

I loved that fight❤❤ it's my top 5 favorite star wars fight.

Kubrick was an awesome arsehole.

The DVDs he released weren’t good quality from what I’ve heard. He’s not systematically destroying them but he’s made it difficult to see them in the best quality.

@@MrShakespearefan Because old versions are eventually outgrown by new versions. The same will happen to the 97, 2004, 2011, and maybe even the 2019 versions at some point in the future. The original copy of the Hobbit (to my knowledge) has not made it to the 21st century. The same will happen with 'dated' versions of Star Wars

@@MrShakespearefan If fans cared about seeing the Orignal Trilogy in its more or less original form, then they shouldn't care that the quality isn't as good as the Special Editions, because it wouldn't be the original versions anymore if they updated the quality of everything in the film, but just took out the CGI and other additions.

@@skywalkerorder2170 Yes,.. let’s all watch the original movies on our VHS-players and CRT screens 👏 👏 👏 People don’t even have these mediums anymore. And not wanting to see it on its best quality? - I guess that is why classics like the Goonies, E.T., Labyrinth, Westerns, Lord of the Rings and what not all are being restored for UHD today - along with every single movie already been updated from VHS, to DVD, to blu-ray so far,.. So why are you opposing an update for those of us who want to see our favourite movie on a good medium too? You’re not that narcissistic that you think all is fine just because your needs have been met, are you,..?

I didn’t even watch Rise of Skywalker after Last Jedi was so bad. I don’t plan to ever watch those films again. But I watch the OG Star Wars trilogy once a year so changes to those films are much more important to me.

Why would people settle for a shitty edition of the Original Trilogy. When there something better. There isn't a better edition of the Last Jedi. If there was. I bet people would rather watch that.

Ruining something good is worse than making something bad.

@@Lone432345 except it's no shittier? Like it's objectively a better looking film? The only thing g actively in the way of the special editions is the whole Han shit first thing, which in the grand scheme of the trilogy is pretty insignificant

@@ThumpingThromnambular if you u actually believe that you need a reality check. Nostalgia isn't included when examining objective quality

Yeah you can tell they're desperate when they're trying to find just one more flaw to make George Lucas look bad but too bad George Lucas has been Vindicated because Disney has already destroyed the Star Wars franchise. George Lucas is sitting back and is saying those stupid fans wanted me out I was protecting those movies from corporate greed I gave it to a corporation to satisfy the fans it's all going downhill from here

Voice sounds different, score and pace get interrupted.

I have never understood these OT purists crusade against CGI. They act like CGI is the devil or something

@@ntfoperative9432 I can roll with the idea that it looks less tangible and corporeal than practical effects, and there's a certain charm to puppets and rubber masks that digital creatures can't replicate, but the religious fervor against it is just ridiculous.

@@cuckmulligan7602 What REALLY gets under my skin (for some reason) is when people will throw the word “CGI” around in arguments in a completely arbitrary way. (Example) “That movie was a bunch of CGI superheroes hitting each other.” Don’t know why just get mad whenever I hear it.

I know, right?

Anomaly comment in the wild after he freaked the fuck out on Twitter lmao

Ew… you.

@@informalgeek1196what happened?

@@saiyanc137 I’m wondering the same thing

Watching rotj in theatres last year made me not even notice half the changes.

nothing is being nitpicked. if anything, george nitpicked the OT which was perfectly fine without terrible CGI and continuity errors. HE added those in. if you say it doesn't matter, why did the movies need to be changed in the first place? CGI mos eisley is a visual upgrade in what world exactly?

@@nearlydead7510 What continuity errors did he add? And why is the CGI such an important point? He wanted to have a lived in city that was mas a massive space port hub on Tattoine. That's what he wanted, that's what he couldn't accomplish in 1977, that's what he did manage to do in 1997 and later. Why are you so against his original vision? The film doesn't belong to you.

@@nearlydead7510 Is Sy Snottles that important in continuity?

@@slyapbg When Steven Spielberg remastered ET, he later realized how it was an act of ruining film history. So he eventually released a double version on Blu-ray, which includes both the remastered AND original version. Even the cult movie Brazil exists in three different versions. Terry Gilliam embraces those various versions, including the version he hated and had nothing to do with. So why wouldn’t Lucas do the same and release two versions of the classic trilogy on Blu-Ray?

​@@slyapbg greedo appears in the jabba scene despite getting shot dead 5 minutes earlier

This is EXACTLY me! I'm so glad I discovered Rick when returning to the Saga and its creator that I know and love :)

Hope you enjoy it!

@@rickworley9081 I've been getting into your videos. I think we have different tastes, but I really admire your thoughtfulness and intelligent arguments. Even when I disagree with you, I respect your position and am smarter for having listened to it. Thanks for the great videos!

@@rickworley9081 I just finished it and I did enjoy it. I agree with what you say about the fans that complain about the special edition just complain because it's not the version they grew up with. I myself had a similar experience when I first became a Star Wars fan. The first time I watched Return of the Jedi it was from the 1996 VHS tape that I borrowed from my friend. When I watched the other 2 of the trilogy it was either the special editions from Blockbuster or more loaners from him, so I saw both versions of those films simultaneously, but when I saw the Return of the Jedi special edition for the first time I was a little bit thrown off by the musical number in Jabba's Palace. As an adult I can look at it after I've had time to get used to it and say there was nothing wrong with George making the scene longer. The only thing I am curious of, not complaining about, is why was there a change in the music? Was it a suggestion from John Williams or George, I don't have the Making of Return of the Jedi Book to find out sadly, so feel free to fill me in. My only half baked theory is that the original sounds very much like a disco type song, so maybe it was changed so it wouldn't be as dated to any specific era, but obviously I have no actual evidence to support this. I live with the post-1997 version though. I admit that I have the despecialized edition, because of collecting reasons and I no longer have a working VHS player, but I can watch the older cuts to appreciate the newer cuts (as shallow as that might be). Example, seeing the old Death Star space battle made me see how much more energized the later cuts were. And also, the Rancor pit scene in Jedi makes me appreciate how George gave that scene more visual clarity because it was so dark before. Looking forward to part 3. Don't care if it takes 3 years again, it will be worth it. *edit recent re-watch of this gave me the answer for why the music was changed

yep us early 20s dudes have allready arrived and are walking proofs off his inevitable victory......and there will only be more! by the time were all old you will see everyone will love these movies!

I always watch the most recent version. I‘ve kept my previous copies as a collector‘s curiosity and I pop in the Despecialized Editions every once in a while as basically the „Urfaust“ (Early Faust, it’s actually and early unfinished version of Goethe‘s Faust that‘s published as a curiosity) of the Star Wars universe… analogous to J. W. Rinzler‘s graphic novel adaptation of the rough draft script „The Star Wars“.

Had access to the CBS Video, 1997, and 2004 versions simultaneously as a kid. After trying really hard to be a hipster as a teen and insisting on just watching the CBS version for a while, I realized I ultimately wanted to watch Star Wars and did not give much of a damn about comparatively minute differences. Luke still blows up the Death Star, AT-ATs are still tripped up, and Ewoks still eat Stormtroopers. Maybe George got a different guitar, but the song remains the same.

I dumped the OG versions of the OT from the 2006 laserdisc, love both versions, though adding Hayden to episode VI really makes me prefer the special edition.

I know this is an old comment, but I'm curious as to whether or not you always noticed the added CGI stuff in places like Mos Eisley and Jabba's palace?

Sadly KZfaq doesn't reward quality :/ But we can all hope one day it'll do and channels like this one will start getting the attention they deserve.

And I'm gonna give you up

Red letters rereview series is pretty great . They had to do somethng positive at some point , they wouldn’t have lasted hating on every single thing

Red Letter Media does a ton of great work, and have become an influential force in Hollywood. Rich Evans is absolutely more relevant than Ellen Degeneres, and perhaps now even Julia Roberts.

What is it with Ricks?

The despecialized editions look fantastic

That’s not a double standard. It’s the same standard: People want to fix the films.

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Fix the films according to THEIR standards.

@@onemoreminute0543 It's still one standard though.

@@berserkasaurusrex4233 The one standard would be treating the PT the same as the OT - if the latter should be 'preserved' with no alterations, then so should the former.

@@onemoreminute0543 The issue isn't preserving anything, it's fixing Lucas's poor decisions. In SE case, it's to remove the unnecessary additions Lucas added in, in the PT case it's to fix his horrible writing, dialogue, direction, etc. decisions. Same standard, just applied differently on a case by case basis.

Purists should be purged. And most prefer watching movies is that are improved and have new effects

I find myself saying "Han, mi buki," *all* the time lmao it's a good scene haters get fucked lol

Yeah. Watching his vid made me see why Lucas added a yelling Vader in RotJ. However that's still my least favourite change in the entire saga. I mean now I can understand Lucas but that scene in particular was so telling by Vader's gesticulations and the music themselves, it didn't *need* him screaming *no*. Of course one could still argue whether or not those other scenes needed it in the franchise but you get my point. Nonetheless, I can still approve and respect all the other changes. Maybe except for Greedo shooting first since it undermines Han being a smuggler who lives from one day to the next and is rather a grey character than a typical hero. Plus, it makes Greedo a shitty bounty hunter who can't even aim from the other side of the table.

How about Return of the Jedi with "Jedi Rocks"?

@@seanshamblin1131 Okay, maybe I enjoy that a little less

Yeah, this video must have taken years to do.

Yep. I have said for a while that seeing these movies in the theater when they were 10 gave them an alternate reality that just does not exist in the real world.

But then RLM complained that Revenge of the Sith was overly dark. Like make up your mind man do you want these films to be dark or not?

@@AardvarkDK That's not the same thing. Acknowledging the prequels as carefully crafted (if flawed) works of art is not the same thing as demanding a dark and gritty tone. Different senses of the word "serious."

@@AardvarkDK Not you again.

@@AardvarkDK You prequel haters are not the ones to talk when it comes to "echo chambers."

@lancebaylis3169 Making it so that both Greedo and Han shoot at each other in 'Star Wars - Episode 4: A New Hope', adding Jabba to 'Star Wars - Episode 4: A New Hope', and switching out the band scene in 'Star Wars - Episode 6: Return of The Jedi' with an alternate, inferior version weren't necessary. But, yes, a lot of what was done was good.

I find it funny that this idiot spent 3 hours yelling to the wind.

no kidding I just saw someone mention the "love conquers all" cut of Brazil in the comments and the guy was even dumb enough to say that Gilliam embraced this version of the film

Lol that actually makes sense

I Just want the bonus DVD version stretched to fullscreen

His video essay skills have doubled since the last upload COUNT!

I got so horny when he played the clips of those morons talking about the Mona Lisa LMAO "Get 'em, Rick! Get they ass!!" I literally said, out loud 🤣

Ah yes, I remember seeing you in the Vienna art school, how's life?

If someone buys your art, do you break into their homes and do changes?

​@@stalefurset9444 did Lucas break into your house and alter your VHS tapes and old DVDs?

@@TurboTurds30 Yes.

Good Point....i look at my favorite games and think "this can be better" other dudes argue with me endlessly insisting that for some reason minor changes would just wreck everything....its silly.....

Watching the original version without the "No" feels weird now.

@@nineleafclover I've always watched the original version but frankly, I don't think it makes any damn different. "No" is basically Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader's catchphrase. People liked the silent version because it made Anakin/Vader seem like a badass but they're missing an incredibly important detail. He is NOT a badass. He has never been a badass. He's a weak willed slave and has been from the start. People like the suit, Force powers and lightsaber but they can't reconcile that intimidating exterior with Darth Vader's true self, which is an ironic twist on the "never meet your heroes" philosophy. Tarkin, a guy who can't even use the Force, is literally described as "holding Vader's leash" in the movie that started the whole franchise.

For me at least... it comes down that it just sounds a little bit silly for the moment... but that's my reason of disliking

@@tomnorton4277 It's usually more about "show don't tell" but I don't see a problem with using both.

We can argue about how we think the performance is, but the meaning behind it works. Just like I would prefer some better line reads from Morrison as Boba, I still would take his voice due to it matching Jango.

Thanks!

@Joshua Munn , they can't Lucas legally owns final cut on his films. They aren't allowed to alter them. For the theatrical movies to be released he has to sign off on it. Other studios do catalog releases all the time, it would be super easy and wouldn't cost millions. Lucas just doesn't want them released. There are other high quality sources other than the special edition conformed negative to do it. Studios like Criterion use lesser than oneg sources all the time.

That change was done in 2013 for the 3D release that never happened. The 2020 Blu-Ray 4K is not a new scan and Lucas hadn't changed anything in almost a decade. Even the Indiana Jones 4K scan for Raiders was done in 2012. Lucasfilm sits on these forever until they are released. By the way the 4K is Special Edition 4.0. There won't be a fifth version because George is done with Star Wars.

Its just such a pointless change though

George Lucas is one of the most humble people in Hollywood. He's not in it for the awards or acclaim, he's just there to make art. Heck, he resigned AKA was kicked out of the Directors Guild because he wouldn't play their game. Integrity has always been important to Lucas and that's so rare in Hollywood that it's practically a myth.

@@tomnorton4277 yup.

When Steven Spielberg remastered ET, he later realized how it was an act of ruining film history. So he eventually released a double version on Blu-ray, which includes both the remastered AND original version. Even the cult movie Brazil exists in three different versions. Terry Gilliam embraces those various versions, including the version he hated and had nothing to do with. So why wouldn’t Lucas do the same and release two versions of the classic trilogy on Blu-Ray?

@@Dino23968 because Lucas’s changes arguably don’t ruin the SW movies, so there’s no need to release the originals

​@@Dino23968you didn't saw the video? Terry didn't approve of the theatical release of Brazil at all and the only reson it is in the dvd was to show how shitty it was and how it ruins his art, and why corporations should never tamper with an artist vision he doesn't "embrace it" at all.

Wrong. There is no right or wrong here. We can all have our separate opinions

@@LukeLovesRose but it’s important to call out behavior of certain fans like the purists who do nothing but whine and complain and spread lies about a film maker.

@@ZanTheMan66 Whatever

​@@LukeLovesRoseSEETHE

I think they should have made a bigger body movement, especially if you consider that the lower abdomen can move a lot laterally

Nobody really complains that much about the cloud city wall changes so that’s bs. A new hope and return of the Jedi are unwatchable with the special edition.

@@reeseexplains8935 How tf are they "unwatchable"? And no, tons of OT purists b!tch about the cloud city walls. They prefer the claustrophobic look of the original for some reason.

@@bilbobaggins9451 it literally sounds like baby talk unlike lapti neck. Lapti neck was actually watachable. Most of the changes are stupid. The mos eisley changes are terrible and the rontos don’t hold. Jurassic park holds up better and was released than the special editions of the original trilogy.

@@reeseexplains8935 The difference is that Jurassic park filmed their dinosaurs in darker environments, thus hiding the imperfections in the effects. The special edition cg shots are basically in bright daylight where it's noticeably dated. But even in Jurassic park, when the dinos are filmed in the day, you can see the textures just aren't that great. Still great for its time. I'm not saying George reinvented the wheel when it came to the special edition cgi, but he felt it was necessary to make it a more bustling city than what he originally had. The dewbacks were these statues with a rod through the head where it could only move up and down. Then you get to the special editions, and they can move wherever he wants. You can hate it, but why should it be illegal for him to go back and change some of the stuff that doesn't hold up?

@@bilbobaggins9451 I don’t think it should be illegal for him to make edits to the movies. They did this with Star Trek but released the altered version alongside the original version. They should have done this with Star Wars. George wanted the movies to age better but the special editions make them age worse. The first dinosaur in Jurrassic park was in daylight and it ages better than the special edition rontos. Also something like the sarlac holds up better in the original, the added cg in the special edition does not hold up.

Still better than DS2.

@@maxmaple3520 DS2?

@@marx4538 Simplified initials for Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness.

@@maxmaple3520 Huh.

@@maxmaple3520 Way to be dated buddy

Well they still suck.

Never feel embarrassed for being on the side of respect and compassion for artists and their rights.

It wasn’t meant to add tension, it just obscures R2-D2. Are you stupid?

@@lexio9913 more like you are

I'm of two minds on this change. Always have been. First, adding those rocks lends to the idea that he was actually hiding and not just standing out in the open, albeit conceivably he had just stepped out after a while to look. The second asks "How did he manage to squeeze into a space that tight that quickly?" "How is he seeing anything from that angle if he's that well hidden?" Both perspectives are valid, but the end result is the same so the answer becomes pointless.

The sequels were made for those idiots in mind

“The People vs George Lucas” are just an earlier version of the modern day Fandom Menace. They went from hating George Lucas and the prequels to now sanctifying Lucas because they hate what Disney has done to Star Wars. Pretty much everything said about how poorly researched and self entitled the “fans” featured in PVSGL are applies to the Fandom Menace as well.

Wouldn't even say RLM count as "fans" (or at least not Mike/Plinkett) when considering they've always seemed to have nowhere near as much investment in Star Wars as they do in other areas (eg. Mike has shown to have far more of a love and understanding for Star Trek, for one).

@@GuineaPigDan The Fandom Menace are kind of in the right for complaining about the sequel trilogy, albeit I hate the unoriginal "muh forced diversity and muh feminism arguments" they're not hating the sequel trilogy for the right reasons. It is anti-climactic that now the fandom menace is pretending to like the prequels now, even though these were the people who hated them when they were released.

@@millabasset1710 Yeah. And whenever they talk about how the sequels could have been improved, they talk about what they would have done (or bring in the EU) and so miss the obvious point. It's not about what THEY would have done. It's about what LUCAS would have done as it was the last chapter in HIS story. And of course, even if you have some fandom menace members who are interested in Lucas's sequels, they're often the same people who vomited upon hearing about the midichlorians in TPM.

Took a couple months off to finish this, but I'll get back to the book soon.

@@rickworley9081 I think the journey of Star Wars has been an ongoing one for me. I remember watching the fight between Palpatine and Mace Windu as a kid - and when Palpatine pretended to be weak and helpless, begging for mercy, I turned to my mother and said “But he can’t hurt him, he said please not!” Haha. I once read an Interview with R. A. Salvatore (you know: the fantasy writer that wrote the Episode II novelization), and he said: “So, the next day I was up at the ranch and I’m supposed to get 45 minutes with George Lucas, but we hit it off pretty well and four hours later we were still going strong. It was a wonderful day. The only really bad moment ... because what happened was, I went and did the book, and then I added a bunch of stuff to the book that wasn’t in the script. And then I had to re-write a lot of that because I didn’t realize that the entire movie takes place in three days, that really shocked me when I heard that.” Remembering all the books about mythology and history behind Lucas in the Episode I documentary, that caught my interest and I asked Salvatore if that three day comment included the marriage scene, since Anakin and Padmé’s romance reminded me of a lot of medieval romance-movies I’d seen as kid, we’d discussed some myths in school, too. So Salvatore told me: “They didn't mention that part, no. And I was floored when they told me about the 3-day timeline!” Though, to be fair, the timeline has always been a bit strange. I remember Obi-Wan visiting Padmé in the Episode III novel and saying that he and Anakin had argued the day bevor and parted without patching things up - the last scene between them prior to that had been Obi-Wan giving Anakin the mission to spy on Palpatine, of course (that seemed a bit strange, however, as Anakin and Obi-Wan DID make up in that version of the scene). I remember Wookieepedia having weird data on that, as it claimed that the assassination attempt on Padmé happened on the same day as the battle of Geonosis (which, obviously, couldn’t be true). Though the blog “starwarsittech.blogspot” claimed different things, a time frame of about 13 days. So who knows? Perhaps Lucasfilm just disliked Salvatore’s original material and tried to soften the blow when telling him, as I have no idea how a 3 day timeline would work in a story that takes place on different planets across the galaxy. Plus, like you mentioned, the novelizations have to be taken with a grain of salt. I remember watching the behind-the-scenes documentaries about the prequels where you would see Lucas’ working on the visual element of his story, to the point that he’d edit different takes together to create certain rhythms. In the making of book, he said: “I’m not known for my dialogue. I think of it as a sound effect, a rhythm, a vocal chorus in the overall soundtrack. Mostly, everything is visual. What drove me to make these movies Is that this is a really interesting story about how people go bad. In this particular case, the premise is: Nobody thinks they’re bad. They simply have different points of view. This is about a kid that’s really wonderful. He has some flaws - and those flaws ultimately do him in. The core issue, ultimately, is greed, possessiveness - the inability to let go. Not only to hold onto material things, which is greed, but to hold on to life, to the people you love - to not accept the reality of life’s passages and changes, which is to say things come, things go. Everything changes. Anakin becomes emotionally attached to things, his mother, his wife. That’s why he fails - because he doesn’t have the ability to let go.”

@@rickworley9081 By the way, didn't Harrison Ford admit later on that he was wrong about Lucas' dialogue writing?

Thanks for sharing your first exposure! I wish that Disney had continued Lucas's plans to show off the original 6 films in 3d in the 2010's, as it would have introduced another generation to SW, this time with the complete saga. It's funny, I remember using the wayback machine to look over old forums from the late 90's and it was interesting to read about people who had been first introduced to Star Wars via the Special Editions or the prequels. I remember coming across one guy , in the leadup to ROTS, who had no idea that Anakin became Vader by the end of the prequels, and so thought Anakin would be the mentor figure for Luke in the originals. Oh, my sweet summer child..

@Darth Doofus I read somewhere that AOTC and ROTS were both planned for a 2013 release. So I'd presume that ANH would release in 2014, and Empire and Jedi would be released in 2015. The last two parts of the trilogy, being more connected, are released back to back. If you consider the fact that Clone Wars would have had 8 seasons in its total run, the show would end in 2015 too. Based on the fact that Lucas had begun work on the sequels in 2012 (it would take ten years until 2022 to complete the trilogy, like with the prequels from 1995 to 2005), you could presume the releases of the sequels to be: -Episode VII in 2016 -Episode VIII in 2019 -Episode IX in 2022 The 3d releases and the end of Clone Wars in 2015 would set up a new generation just in time for the sequels, like the SE's did for the prequels. Though, I wonder if Lucas still planned for Underworld to go ahead. And with all this talk of alterations and re-releases, I wonder if Lucas would have made further alterations to the original 6 films to allow for more consistency with the sequels?

@@onemoreminute0543 I wish they did too. I see a lot of younger fans on social media complaining about the OT, specifically ANH, being slow in parts. I don’t think they would feel that way if they saw them on the big screen. I already knew that Vader was Luke’s father. That was one of those pieces of pop culture knowledge that was hard to avoid, either in parody by something else or just referenced. It’s funny, my younger brother was 6 when we saw ANH SE and he had no idea it was a 20 year old movie at the time. He thought it was new because he had seen toy commercials for it on afternoon TV. So when we came out of ANH at the theater, he was already saying “i bet in the next one Darth Vader comes back since he flew away after the Death Star blew up” lol Like I said in my original post, soon after I bought the 1995 box set because I remember all the retail stores at the time had it on sale, trying to cash in on how popular the SE release was. I went to the library and tried to get into the EU but I never could get into the books, so I ended up being more interested in learning about Lucas and the behind the scenes process. I’m still that way 25 years later and consider that my “lore”

@@onemoreminute0543 I remember on those old forums that a lot of people thought that palpatine and Sidious were two separate people lol

@@AardvarkDK Heck, even Bill Shatner can't stand them.

@@AardvarkDK Definitely not slobby manchildren.

Your work is pretty good 👍

@@onemoreminute0543 thanks!

And he has gone on record that he regrets the changes he made.

@@trailersic I know.

Thank you!

"purists" isn't even the right word they're just babies and boy does Rick give them babies a good shaking in this video series lmfao

@Joshua Munn It’s as if they knew that the special editions were far more polished and complete compared to the original unaltered versions.

@@FMK03 bad CGI and continuity errors =/= more polished.

If yall think cgi jabba. Cgi tatooine look good then yall need yalls eyes checked. The special editions look absolutly awful.