How to Weather an HO Scale Modern Covered Hopper

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Panzermeister36

Panzermeister36

2 жыл бұрын

Today we will weather a modern covered hopper. I'll show you how I patched the roadnumber, applied some chipping, weathered with washes, and added some fading, dust, and rust with the airbrush.
@DansRailroad2011 Dan's Custom Trains' video that helped me chip the "Peavey" lettering:
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Some of my inspirational photos for this project:
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@johnathanlewis2049
@johnathanlewis2049 2 жыл бұрын
Car looks like a filthy rolling rust bucket. Great job!
@SouthDown
@SouthDown 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how this went from looking like a cheap toy to a highly detailed and realistic model simply because of the weathering. Fantastic job.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate the comments you've posted on my channel recently. Take care :) glad you're enjoying my work.
@troyb1733
@troyb1733 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr Panzer,the little brackets on the bottom of the bays(bottom of car you called hatches) are to mount a vibrating tool. It makes the contents of car,corn,oats ect. fall out of hatches when they get stuck,whether from wetness or freezing,ect. the cars are lined with a special coating and cannot be scratched.in the old days they would beat on the car with (BFHs)BIG HAMMERS. The stencil above bracket tells you info about this. Also there are stencils on cars telling what kind of shoe sole to wear inside car. The roof hatches on top of car are almost all made of fiberglass so they dont rust,and the latches and hinges on them are made of stainless or galvanized metal,so they "white rust" The running boards now days are made of galvanized metal. I worked on a RIP track for a long time.(RIP= Repair In Place) (or Cripple Track) Great job on your weathering and models, I watch them all!
@KrC-1207
@KrC-1207 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work you did. I hope to one day be able to weather as good as you do. Wish me luck as I'm going to get my hands wet and try to weather some old cars.
@RailserveJohn
@RailserveJohn 2 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to these weathering videos. The car looks incredible. I know the brush chipping must have taken some time but the results are worth it. Thanks for the techniques, they really help. All the best - John
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John! Glad to hear from you. I've enjoyed your videos too; modern era switching layouts are my interest point in model railroading.
@click4mrh
@click4mrh 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done! I think I can speak for many, your insets with paint%, thinning% and psi are incredibly valuable. Thanks for all of that being a part of your presentation.
@kevinb9327
@kevinb9327 Жыл бұрын
No exaggeration, you're the Michaelangelo of weathering. 💯+
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@Vmssupplies
@Vmssupplies 2 жыл бұрын
A cool and refreshing subject!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you VMS!
@themodeladultcentral6920
@themodeladultcentral6920 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video regarding ho stuff. Much appreciated.
@keithdenner9441
@keithdenner9441 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent weathering!
@JoeyBPhotography
@JoeyBPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I love the simplicity of your techniques, they really look convincing. It gives confidence for those of us (like me) who are new to weathering to give it a go.
@SteveKeithmodels
@SteveKeithmodels 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, was wondering what happened to you. You got me back into models after 30+ years.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still around! I was moving and starting a new job. More videos to come soon...
@SteveKeithmodels
@SteveKeithmodels 2 жыл бұрын
Wish we could post pics... I would love to share what you and a few other have inspired...
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
You can send me an email with your work! I'd love to see it :) Panzermeister36@gmail.com
@MMRails
@MMRails 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a transformation. Incredible work. I don’t watch your tank videos but I can see why you’re so popular. Great video editing and explanation of each step. You must have quite the collection of paints and small tools. Excellent results.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, I have accumulated a lot of paints and products over the years but honestly most of them aren't required and they collect dust on my bench.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Apologies for the lighting being a little poor at some points in this video. Parts of this were filmed at a temporary bench setup while I was moving to a new house. Another of my covered hopper weathering videos can be found here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsWDabt3yLKuhX0.html
@sixandup939
@sixandup939 2 жыл бұрын
Brush chipping streaks look great. Worth the time spent 👍
@SchuylkillRiverValley
@SchuylkillRiverValley 2 жыл бұрын
Very effective weathering - love the techniques. The car came out looking great - well done! Best, John
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John!
@MrJuvefrank
@MrJuvefrank 7 ай бұрын
Your covered hopper looks very blue today.
@goforitpainting
@goforitpainting Жыл бұрын
Cool weathering
@DCC-DUDE
@DCC-DUDE Жыл бұрын
Great job! Thx for the step by step!
@wolfgang548
@wolfgang548 2 жыл бұрын
The car turned out real nice. You do such great work that I wish you'd upload a few more times a year.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'll try to feature more model railroading equipment in the future!
@jonfoisy1237
@jonfoisy1237 2 жыл бұрын
Another great job Evan!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ratled1
@ratled1 2 жыл бұрын
While I do really like your military stuff I don't appreciate the MRR too. Your work has a big following on the (now old) MRH forum Thanks for all the vids!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! I didn't know I was popular on that forum. I will have to take a look :)
@shawnpowell5876
@shawnpowell5876 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Panzermeister and these particular Ribbed Hoppers are my favorite to weather! I think mainly bcuz my flat brushes fit perfectly in those panels when doing the rust effects! Thanks again for sharing your videos along with your time and effort! Enjoying your videos back here in Delmar, Delaware.
@cosmaninashiva6115
@cosmaninashiva6115 2 жыл бұрын
Wunderbar ,einfach nur wunderschön !!
@GrandTrunkWestern85
@GrandTrunkWestern85 Жыл бұрын
Really really enjoy these videos man Cheers
@foreverplastickits138
@foreverplastickits138 2 жыл бұрын
*Very nice weathering step by step video, this is not a toy anymore!*
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Grainexpress
@Grainexpress 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Love your techniques! I can’t wait to get harvest done and get back to the workbench and borrow your ways to weather. Thanks for making model RR weathering videos.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Take care :)
@bobz1736
@bobz1736 2 жыл бұрын
Informative and entertaining as usual. Love your airbrush weathering - I will try it out on my next project. 😉
@andybenfer5292
@andybenfer5292 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work!! You have given me the motivation to weather again, I love the peavey logo fading technique with the micro sol and blade, will definitely try it myself on some CNW cars I have on my NS layout.
@splitrock323
@splitrock323 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Another excellent railroad weathering tutorial. Thank you.,
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Gcscalemodels
@Gcscalemodels 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work dude
@gabrielolsson2033
@gabrielolsson2033 2 жыл бұрын
What a beauty! Cheers :)
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@grandparails8858
@grandparails8858 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video thank you for sharing.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@outdoorlenny6441
@outdoorlenny6441 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work! I wish I had your patience and skill lol, thank you for the awesome videos!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) You can do it!
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling
@HamilkarBarkasScaleModelling 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool procedure! Such train cars are ideal for heavy weathering effects, since these things literally sit in the open for years and see heavy use, unlike tanks, which do not really last long enough to show such extreme weathering effects.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael! Yes, these subjects really let me go freely with the weathering. Maybe I should do a wrecked tank too...sitting out for 50 years in the Golan Heights or something.
@jerryvolpini7987
@jerryvolpini7987 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your tutorials, well explained with excellent video (even if the lighting was a bit messed up at times, lol 😉). Keep up the great work!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@ScottTaipaleRail
@ScottTaipaleRail Жыл бұрын
Very nice. I watched this one months ago but saw it shared on a website so I figured I’d watch again since I finally broke out my weathering tools after a year long hiatus. Care to do a SOO line or Family Lines car next? I have a ton of those to do thanks to the recent Tangent release!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 Жыл бұрын
I actually did a Tangent SOO hopper for a client a few months ago, but I didn't film it. I have some photos though. Next hoppers I have are grey trinitys, so the weathering techniques are the same as they would be on a grey or beige 4750.
@ATSF1317
@ATSF1317 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great! My only suggestion is you should weather underneath the walkways also. You can still see the bright blue
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
With the angles and all the lights on my workbench, yes you can see that blur somewhat. But on my model railroad you don't notice it. I will keep that in mind for next time...thank you!
@EL-nc1cs
@EL-nc1cs Жыл бұрын
Hey late viewer here lol. In case I missed it, I noticed your wheels are masked half the wheel tread? Cool care to explain that nice touch. _ Alex
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 Жыл бұрын
Luckily KZfaq helps me keep track of new comments on old videos! The wheel tread is essentially half-masked as you said, and that is purely a result of the angle I spray paint on them. First I spray the wheel face directly face-on, so no paint gets on the tread. Then, I spray the rear face and axle. I do this at about a 60° angle so the lip of the wheel will mask about half of the tread closest to it. The other outer half is not blanketed from the spray angle so it gets painted. (I actually paint the rear face and axle by sticking the bearing end of the axle straight down into my paper towel I use to catch overspray, and then I hold the other bearing end in the tip of my left index finger -- almost like I'm balancing a top. Then I spray downwards and spin the axle with my left thumb. This spins the wheel so I get all of the rear face and axle, and the angle is about the 60 degrees I explained. I have to then flip the wheel around and do the same for the other rear face of the opposite wheel). It's kind of a happy accident sort of thing I figured out. Hopefully my explanation makes sense!
@mike_burke
@mike_burke 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Evan, thanks (yet again) for such an in-depth tutorial. I find all of your tutorials immensely useful and enlightening. And very well structured and produced. I hope your move is going well. It can be pretty stressy, right? I also hope you are considering to pick up the big Das Werk Stug III which should be available in about 2 or 3 months time. You are the first person I thought about when I heard about it. I know you are a massive Stug III fan and can only imagine what you would make out of that kit :-) All the best and take care.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Move is all finished now! Yes it was a little stressful and I did lose the decals for a current project. Hopefully I can find them soon... As for the DW StuG, I am not sure. It will require a lot of work and aftermarket. I may wait for the [Trumpeter] 1/16 StuG release that should be out soon after DW's kit.
@mike_burke
@mike_burke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 Great!! Also, I did not know about the Trumpeter version, thanks for the heads up!!
@timsears7541
@timsears7541 2 жыл бұрын
I am definitely going to try some of this on my Tiger 1 tracks and lower hull. I really like the idea of using just an airbrush for weathering. Maybe you could do a video of experimenting with air brush weathering ?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about trying more airbrushed weathering after seeing Night Shift and his preweathering techniques. I'll give it a shot soon.
@stephenbridges2791
@stephenbridges2791 2 жыл бұрын
Nice techniques. Pretty similar to armor that you usually do. I wished I had room for an HO set up.
@mike_burke
@mike_burke 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, I do understand. So but my solution is to just collect freight cars, in sales mostly, weather them up and place them into little dioramas that can go on shelves or into bookcases. Many hours of fun can be had for little money. Its maybe not for everyone, but it scratches my itch..
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
My setup is very small! 2.5 by 9 feet shelf layout. It's still a work in progress but I'll likely do some scenery videos on it too when I get to that point.
@codyreynolds6333
@codyreynolds6333 2 жыл бұрын
I just pre ordered the das werk stug 3 in 1/16 scale it was only a little more them a dragon kit cheaper then the good ones now days can't wait to get it you should do a video on one once they come in
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I may do a video on it, however I already have a lot of projects in the works and I am more interested in 1/35 scale. The Das Werk kit is just the Takom Blitz kit upscale anyways, so I've already built it in 1/35.
@waynemiller7382
@waynemiller7382 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Did you seal the acrylic with dull coat or anything before using the oils and thinners? great work!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, I use Tamiya paints which are very durable. These are alcohol-based acrylics and they are as strong as the dullcote itself. So with Tamiya there is no need to seal it down. Now, if you're using water-based acrylic paints like Vallejo or Mig Ammo or anything similar, then you should seal them with a varnish like dullcote.
@Pavl9k
@Pavl9k 2 жыл бұрын
Before the fading, I would mask some of the labels and instructions, as those are usualy kept clean or even replaced from time to time. I have seen many cars like that dirty af but clean rectangles around the labels and warning/instructions signs. Also putting on some graffiti would be cool :D
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I usually would apply some graffiti but my references for these CEFX ex-PVGX cars showed no tagging at all.
@Pavl9k
@Pavl9k 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 it looks great sir good work
@kenkerber-gl2ng
@kenkerber-gl2ng 2 ай бұрын
Hi were r u from ? Country! And your work is amazing! Do you do other people’s cars and stuff?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 ай бұрын
Hello Ken. I live in Canada. I do occasionally do commission work. You can contact me at Panzermeister36@gmail.com
@VSLAModelRR
@VSLAModelRR Жыл бұрын
I know it's been awhile since you did this video but do you happen to know what size/type that brush is for the brush chipping? Looks pretty small
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 Жыл бұрын
It's a 10/0 round spotter brush, Royal & Langnickel Zen73 series
@christall109
@christall109 27 күн бұрын
How did you weather the coupler and the wheels? Would love to see a video on that - the coupler specially looks great.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 26 күн бұрын
I airbrushed them with a mix of Tamiya XF-68 and XF-72. I have shown that in my other model railway weathering videos...the gondola one should be helpful for you.
@christall109
@christall109 25 күн бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 thanks for the reply! Recently discovered your channel and love it so far.
@Max-prime1212
@Max-prime1212 6 ай бұрын
What compressor do you use?
@chickenz03
@chickenz03 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. What are the sponges that you are using and where do you get them?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! That is just generic foam packing sponge. Much like the foam in an Athearn Genesis box.
@chickenz03
@chickenz03 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 oh no way! I definitely have that around! Thanks!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I just tear off a little chunk. Sometimes it's easier to hold it in tweezers. Make sure you unload most of the paint out of the sponge before you apply it!
@sinatraroom
@sinatraroom 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose the Badger 105 Patriot airbrush and what air compressor do you prefer?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I did not choose it, it was given to me. I had a Paasche airbrush before but I like the 105 much better. It's super reliable and I can get some excellent camouflage out of it. As for a compressor, well I still have a super basic one. Would recommend getting a proper one.
@pabassfisherman
@pabassfisherman 2 жыл бұрын
Dude more weathers trains please!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I will make sure I do!
@robertmiller8384
@robertmiller8384 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find you reference photos that you used as a guide for this car?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
RR Pictures Archive website
@Sprue_and_Glue
@Sprue_and_Glue 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely weathered HO scale thingy Panzermeister... and now get back to 1/35 AFV please 😅 (my apologies to all you train fans)
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we're back to AFVs this week :)
@southernrailfanning5516
@southernrailfanning5516 Жыл бұрын
I tried the starship filth and applied it the same way and it did not by any means look like what you did with it. It dried immediately and left a deep blackened stain and would not come off at all
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 Жыл бұрын
Did you apply it over a matte varnish or something? Oil paint should not dry immediately -- the whole point of it is that it has a much longer working (drying) time than acrylic paints.
@southernrailfanning5516
@southernrailfanning5516 Жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 I actually laid it exactly how you did except I did spray a layer of dullcote before air brushing a fade coat
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 Жыл бұрын
If the dullcote was applied before the oils, then that will be the issue. You can't blend the oils over such a matte/rough finish. I only applied a matte varnish at the end of the weathering process in the video for this reason. I'm sorry for not making that clear in the video.
@etusuku763
@etusuku763 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think there is a possibility of you using only acrylics for airbrushing a model sometime? i dont mean tamiya acrylic i mean more like vallejo and mig / ak acrylic colors? would be interesting to see how you use them for airbrushing!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, probably not. Vallejo airbrushes very poorly compared to others on the market and I would struggle to get good results (I'm not the most skilled airbrusher and I've built up a lot of experience with Tamiya). I'm not interested in making a video on something that would be awkward and not enjoyable to me. Now I very well might try using acrylic washes more in the future rather than oils/enamel washes if that's more what you're thinking about. If Vallejo/Ammo are the acrylics you like to use, you should be able to use them the same way I used Tamiya acrylics in my videos. You can find colour conversion charts online to find equivalent colours to what I use.
@etusuku763
@etusuku763 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 oh okay understandable! i have gotten used to vallejo for airbrushing and it actually works quite nicely but not as durable as tamiya tho. Thanks for the great answer!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for some people it works and for others it's a struggle. Others say the same about the paints I use :) It's all just personal preferences and touch, plus how your airbrush handles paint. If it works for you then you can use it in place of my work with Tamiya.
@morrisg
@morrisg 2 жыл бұрын
Could you explain how you got the shiny worn truck wheel segment where the wheel runs on the tracks? Was that just some tape on the original wheel before the weathering airbrush coat?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I just painted the wheel surface, the rear of the wheel, and axle with the airbrush. The edges didn't get directly painted, and they should be shiny anyways.
@morrisg
@morrisg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 Ok, look at 00:39 seconds and I see a rusted outer segment of the wheel edge and a shiny inner segment which is where the wheel runs on the rails. I assumed you taped the inner edge segment to keep it shiny when you painted the wheel, right?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, no tape. That's just how the overspray must have formed when I sprayed the rear face of the wheels and the axle.
@morrisg
@morrisg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 Cool! Looks really nice!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
In my previous covered hopper weathering video (on the MILW one) I showed painting the wheels and trucks in greater detail. That should show you my technique.
@brucethemodelnoob
@brucethemodelnoob 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez… are there any models that you don’t use XF-18 on? 😂😂😂 Looks amazing!
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the colour of this railcar would make Mig happy if it were on a Panzer :)
@brucethemodelnoob
@brucethemodelnoob 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 😂😂😂
@guywholikesplanes9077
@guywholikesplanes9077 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a weird looking tank
@johnboy384
@johnboy384 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ordered the 1/16th Stug III?
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I have not. Still pondering it. That kit requires a lot of work and I'll double its cost in aftermarket corrections...
@johnboy384
@johnboy384 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 Some Australian lads are already making 3D aftermarket option parts. Seen them after searching the kit on YT.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm helping some aftermarket companies with some details and corrections for this kit :)
@robertmiller8384
@robertmiller8384 2 жыл бұрын
You work in 1/87th and 1/35th do you see where any of your modeling techniques in 1/35th would translate into 1/87th work????
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's all the same effects in the end. Chipping, scrapes, dirt, grime...I use a lot of same techniques and products across both scales, I just try to keep it finer on the 1/87 so it doesn't look out of scale.
@annankesawa7500
@annankesawa7500 2 жыл бұрын
Lol didn't know you did scale model trainsq
@willthorson4543
@willthorson4543 2 жыл бұрын
Where's the graffiti? Lol. Looks good.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I would usually add some, but my references for this railcar showed no tagging :)
@Retro_Ibra
@Retro_Ibra 2 жыл бұрын
Я работаю на железной дороги России) у нас такие тележки вагонов называют Барбер
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting....which part exactly do you call that?
@Retro_Ibra
@Retro_Ibra 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 тележки Barber S-2-R
@abellyofanarmy
@abellyofanarmy 2 жыл бұрын
When are you picking your tau army and give them this treatment! There are a lot of people that see you and Night Swift videos because they of weathering technics...
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
My Tau army was painted long ago when I was in high school, but I did buy some more Warhammer recently to weather in videos ;) some time this year I'll make a video.
@hanssmidt12
@hanssmidt12 2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
Hello!
@Duececoupe
@Duececoupe 2 жыл бұрын
That's not Milwaukee Road! 😉😆😂
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a heretic I know :)
@Duececoupe
@Duececoupe 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panzermeister36 We do accept old CN, CP and BCR....😉😆😂
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