I’ve had lots of success with it as well. Won’t hit massive home runs (unless you are at a table for a long long time) but is a grinder and has long term profit for me

​@@DiceDegenI love grinding systems. I'm all about be patient and letting the rolls play out. I was playing the pass line with odds on the point. I look forward to playing the 7 now.

@@88unstopable big facts! Good luck

I love it.

​@@DiceDegen works great when there are no come out winners Catch a streak of 7s and you're in trouble.

Facts!

There really is no difference. One has the advantage on the front end, the other has the advantage on the back end. Either way the house makes their edge.

i think it’s because some people are bitter when you win on the don’t when everyone else is playing pass

Nice wins!

Congrats! Thats awesome! What are your bet sizes on the 6,8,9...and then what are your two press-up amounts per each # and i take it your betting $5 total on the buff-yo ($1 on each HW and $1 on a seven)? thanks!

Whats buffalo?

Yes what’s buffalo???

Wait, what? They had craps on a cruise ship? I went on a cruise once and they didn't have craps and said it was due to the motion of the ship impacting play. Maybe it was bs?

One of my favorites! I also add odds depending how the table is going. Good luck at the casino!

Appreciate the feedback. I will make it clearer in future videos

How he's playing you win money like that which is true to cover your ass on the come-out roll for 11 and 7 on the don't come line for insurance go $1 on seven and $1 on eleven

Yes, this strategy can go very wrong. I've done this plenty of times. But then when shooter makes points, you start losing that dont pass "insurance" bet. If anything, do this strategy when you shoot. Use a hardway set on the come out, try not to roll a natural so that you establish a point. Bet across the place bets.Try to roll numbers. Come down on your place bets when you're ready. Throw a 7s set and try to crap out. Good luck!

Correct me if I’m wrong but if any of the numbers does hit doesn’t the 25$ on the 7 come down

​@darriusnelson7799 Only time the $25 don't pass would come down would be when the point was hit. Not just any number. Not sure if that's your question though either.

I love it😂

How u do? Lol

You’re just hoping that the shooter doesn’t hit his point and you make money every time he rolls a 6 7 or 8

complain about craps betting strategy is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. yes there’s probably an optimal formula, but eventually everybody’s going to sink

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It’s a great game. It’s not that I hate the iron cross. I use it occasionally but I level it differently and then transition to something else.

How often do you win with the iron cross? I've played it a few times. Won a little once. The other two times I was just dumping money.

@@cheeseballs3825 Very rarely do I see people win with the iron cross. Have I seen people win, yes....but more often than not I see it bleed and lose. I also see the same people who win on the iron cross kick themselves as other people at the table win much more on the same rolls. Works both ways though.

​@@DiceDegen See a field roll, bet a field roll!! That is the ONLY way to play the iron cross. The field rolls come in STREAKS.

Why you so happy when the casino takes money from a player?

I like that progression! Thanks for sharing

Can u show this combo see how it looks like.

That sounds good gonna try that

demonstration for your boy ovr her

I agree. Maybe should encourage leaving the 6 & 8 placements regardless of the point.

Certainly no strategy wins all the time

It’s one of my favs too! I like the idea of laddering! Thanks for the support

Every roll ends the same way…7 out of

oh they happen all the time. I get beat twice by that comeout and i'll wait for the next shooter or try something else

@@DiceDegen hop the 7s on the come out for $1 each.. if it hits, go to $15 (collect $1), if it hits again, go to $60 (collect $20) or $75 (collect $5), if it hits again, you've won $300 or $375.. this only works if the table is 15 to 1 or 16 for 1..

I’ve seen people shoot 7,7,11,7 on the come out. You’ll lose $100. You could cover your butt with the any 7s that pays out 1 to 4, you’ll be down a little bit from the start but you’ll be protected from the natural come out, unless you hit 11. Then you have to worry about hitting the point.

Reason I don’t like the iron cross is the amount of hits needed to recoup your money. For example, on a $10 min table you go $10 field, $10 on the 5, $12 on the 6 and 8 for $44 total. 5 field hits will get you even. But if someone is rolling 5,6,8 you are only getting paid $4. Takes too long to get paid. On a long roll, yes you will make money but the average rolls will bleed you in the long run

I agree, not to mention when the point comes up early before playing house money. There's always holes.

Welcome aboard! Appreciate you!

Personally not a fan of hedging but certainly is an option!

Lose the don’t on a come out 7 or 11 or of the point is hit

Thank you brother!

Thank you! Here’s a link for a longer, more in depth video. 6,7,8 Craps Strategy - Great for Beginners or anyone! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9emgMt5tdLOl6M.html

@@DiceDegen Thank you for the link to the longer video. Its was fantastic and I learned a lot. I will watch the rest of your videos. You are a good teacher. Keep up the great work.

@@DiceDegen Hello again. I just wanted to report back to you that I used your 6,7,8 strategy and it worked well for me. I look forward to seeing your other videos and learning more from you.

@@sciencesleuth4781 awesome glad to hear! appreciate your support!

It’s a great choppy table strategy or a starting strategy on shooters. Can always be modified to go more lightside on a good roll. Personally, I play this a few different ways, but my favorite is an aggressive 6/8. Let’s say $25 DP. $18 6/8. First hit on 6/8 pays 21. Two options from here…press 6/8 to $30 each or drop $3 and take the number that hit to $42. At that point your 6/8 pays $35 (If at $30) or $49 if at $42. Two hits at either the base level or pressed up has your 6/8 paid for and you can spread out more (other numbers), take down your DP, or lock up profit.

@@DiceDegen im going to play this the very jext time i get to a table!! Thanx

@@jrr7031 good luck!

Clearly you don't know what is going on here or what he's talking about, and that's fine, but you tried to be funny, and that's not fine. He's showing you a way to a game with way less volatility. people who are playing the iron cross are going to lose way more times than not, but they are hoping for one magical day where they hit the boom button. imagine you're a very casual gambler, are you going to play one that you could possibly win at or one you have almost no chance at? ps, gtfo.

Nice win!

😂

Dumbest thing I ever heard 🤣

dont pass loses on 7 or 11 on the come out roll, after the point is established dp wins on 7

“Hug” the point…move the bet that would be on the 6 to the 5 so you have the 5 and 8 placed…8 is the point, move it to the 9 so you have the 6 and 9 placed

Disagree with the iron cross being better in totality. There are instances when the iron cross is a better play. However, many beginners lose playing the iron cross because they do not know when/how to adjust. From a mathematical perspective…the iron cross would break about even on an average roll.

@@DiceDegen I agree if you are playing at table min level ($18 6&8 $10 in the field, no money five) you need to do 3 hits and down to build up your money that is at risk. Or play at a higher level ($42 6&8 $25 in the field) for 3 rolls then regress to min table limit. Bottom line is if you do not have your original bankroll back in the rack after 3 rolls or less, you are over exposed and will get into a hole that you can't recover from.

@@louvoodoo agree 100%. The reason for 6,7,8 over the iron cross for beginners is that many of them do not realize what you have stated above. I have seen countless times the traditional iron cross be played and players walk away with no chips (especially beginners) because they do not recoup the original outlay, or they take to long to do so. On occasion, i play a modified iron cross that requires 2 sometimes 3 hits to be fully covered on my initial investment and then I switch to a different play.

Facts

$18 6 and 8…DP is your call. If you want to cover the bets then you would need at least $36 on the don’t. Can be played with a lower don’t and letting one hit cover you

​@@DiceDegenman, so I showed up to the table and it wound up being $10, not $15 like the previous night. Anyhow, I would up just doing $10 on the don't, $12, on 6, and $12 on 8. (Glad I didn't bet larger on don't.) The don't was killing me! I stopped playing don't and betting on the pass as I normally would. I started throwing in on the field bet $10 here and there and I was getting wrecked still! So, here I am dwindled down from my $200 starter stack off of don'ts, 6&8, and field bets. This new shooter goes on an absolute hot streak! Shoots for like 45-60mins. He HIT EM ALL almost twice before crapping out. He needed one number to do it twice. He made the table so much money back. He crushed it with hitting 6's and 8's. So, there I was down $200 about to walk away empty, to being up $200. Lol, dude made me my $200 + $200 in winnings.

I just put out a video explaining some of the bets…will be doing a whole series on bets at the table, how to play, etc

I replace the DP once more and yes I do go out on the 6/8

Thank you Sir! Much appreciated

Thanks for the comment. You are certainly right that craps is a negative ev game. I will have more math related videos coming soon

I have a few videos detailing the 6,7,8 in slower/long form

I hate the standard iron cross…I do like the Iron T a lot

@@DiceDegen I have been testing it at $1,400 for 1 roll (work come out). If field hits, I go $220 inside. Of a 6 or 8 hits, I go $440 inside. Then press and collect. I have been digging it.

@@donniekostar9644 nice! Good luck!

Because 7 8 9

replace the dont. I dont let the same shooter beat me more than twice though

⁠@@DiceDegenwhat about online craps?

Putting money on 5,6,8,and placing a field bet every roll. The field pays 1:1 on 2,3,4,9,10,11,12(2 and 12 are 2:1 pay outs. Some tables pay 3:1 on 12). So ever you’ll get paid something. It’s a double-edge sword though. You’ll lose if you hit a series of short rolls. It’s good if the dice are hot. You’ll make a slow and steady profit.

@faustovasquez4670 if the dice are hot every strategy will win.

True. If you are on hot streak, the iron cross, don’t forget to press 5,6, and after each point. It’s a progressive way to keep steady. That’s if you have already established a winning bank roll. Slow and steady

Iron cross is where you “win” on every number except the 7. It consists of a pass line, field bet, and place 5,6,8. You have all of the numbers covered. This main issue is that it takes about 6-7 hits to break even.

7 is most likely to hit after the point is set though

​@DiceDegen I guess you just have to duck the first 7 lol I'd rather change my risk and lay the 5. Go 6,8 field

“Hug the point” - so if 6 is the point, place the 5 and 8. If 8 is the point, place the 6 and 9

@@DiceDegenwhy hug the point instead of picking 9 for both scenarios

Not necessarily….hopefully the 6/8 pays off. You can always adjust based on the roll

you can always pull down your don't pass bet if you hit 6/8 twice..

7 can burn you depending on the side you are playing. All comes down to what is rolling

Called “high roller” for a reason 💪🏼

I have videos rolling out the 6,7,8 full length if you are jnterested

6,7,8 is one of my favorites. I play it quite often when trying to feel out the table. I’ve had good and bad sessions with it but has worked long term. Jacob from Wager me this rolls it out a lot! (It’s his strategy)

@@DiceDegen 6,7, and 8 are usually good numbers if they come up lol A lot of people forget about the hard ways but they have been good to me over the years

With a little understanding of odds and luck, some can.

I have a few longer videos on the 6,7,8. Quick video because shorts are only 1 min long

I have a few videos explaining this in a lot more detail

The don't pass wins on 7

You can win

If I did I made a mistake. Shouldn’t have been paid

He didn’t pay it, that cheque was from the first 7 out, rewatch it

​@@dakotahaddock4746,,,,good eye, I see it now,thanks

​@@DiceDegen.....you didn't make a mistake, I just missed it,a previous win was just laying in the field instead of your rack!

I have longer videos explaining the strategy!

It is a lot of fun. However, it is also gambling. Proper discipline and money management is key!