Counterpoint. If every single model takes a flamer i will please vulkan and he will assue victory

Another thing I'd recommend for list building is new recruit, its a web only list builder that works for 10th and ninth edition, as well as some other things. I absolutely ADORE the interface for it, and its constantly being updated (its also free)

FACT: 90% of salamanders stop adding flamers right before they’ve hit it big with a flawless list

Man this is a beacon in the darkness. I was struggling to make a good list for my Salamanders so much that I just gave up and worked on my second army. How does Auspex keep making the right videos at the right time?

Always aim for built in redundancy: you have 1 unit that specialises in a particular aspect, then unit 2 that can do it too but not as well as the 1st, but can also do something different, giving additional flexibility.

Auspex is literally the best.

I've actually been having a fair bit of success with the Anvil Siege Force at the moment, even if they aren't really competitive at a tournament level. We use GW recommended terrain, so it's not like we're playing on planet bowling ball or anything. The thing is, not everything in your army needs to stay static. You set up a couple of really heavy hitters at key points, making sure the enemy units will have to present themselves if they're going to move forward, and then use Inceptors and indirect fire to force them to come to you. Running a Repulsor Executioner and multiple Gladiator Lancers means you can have some truly fearsome levels of firepower on demand, with the Executioner's Heavy Laser Destroyer wounding almost anything in the game on a 2+. With the sustained on a 5+, I've managed to get four attacks through with only two shots, against a Questoris-class Knight. I'm not saying it's the best by any stretch, but it really can be effective.

Now to take this idea and figure out how to make my Alpha Legion be 'totally loyalists you guys don't worry about it'...

I've been tinkering with Anvil Siege Force. What I've found is that Heavy Intercessors are perfect as, well, anvils. You advance them up, get them in position, and let them absorb as much damage as possible. If they're not dealt with, they can lay down a surprising amount of fire power. Three msu squads, two scout squads, two infiltrator squads, and an intercessor squad for back line objectives gives a good skeleton to work off. From there you've got Gladiator Lancers, Eradicators, and Hellblasters as damage dealers. I'm also growing pretty fond of Devastator squads, namely Grav-cannon and Plasma-cannon marines. Grav-cannons are S6 damage 3, making them a decent fit against chunky infantry as well as vehicles, though the low AP isn't great even with ignoring cover. Plasma-cannons are a fair bit better than they were in 9th edition, at least in my opinion. Against a 5 man MEQ, each one will fire a minimum of two shots due to the blast rule changes, but larger squads aren't uncommon. I don't think it's an amazingly strong detachment or anything, but I'm not sure if it's being approached quite right. I think Rigid Discipline is probably the best mindset for it. Stand on an objective and yell 'come take it', take your lumps, then hit back harder next turn.

Using my primary army, Black Templars, as an example, I always have 2 or more “inviting targets” that could also be classified as Damage Dealers. I always bring a Redemptor for heavy fire support and to draw fire while my melee units get into charge range. Since 10e, I’ve been taking a Repulsor to transport 10 Sword Brethren + 2 characters, which also provides fire support and acts as a bullet sponge. I’ve recently acquired a Land Ranger Redeemer/Crusader, which is even tougher and its Assault Ramp is perfect for melee units. My LR tends to draw more fire than my Redemptor, giving me an extra turn of shooting and sometimes it even survives the battle! I always want a minimum of 5 units of battle-line or elite troops for Primary Obj takers/holders. I admit that my preference for Primaris Crusader Squads leaves me with fewer overall units for backfield Obsec and scoring secondaries, but that’s offset by giving me an advantage at taking and holding midfield objectives. All of my Black Templars lists includes the “Trinity” of Helbrecht, Grimaldus, and the Emperor’s Champion. I usually take a Castellan to accompany Helbrecht, and a Judiciar to lead 3-6 Bladeguards. The weakness of my army has been a lack of objective scorers, so I’ve recently been proxying 5 Neophytes as Scouts Squads (since I don’t have any Firstborn Crusaders for cheap units). They’re stuck with a basic loadout (no sniper rifle) but they serve their purpose of scoring objectives. I’ve also been using Jump Pack Intercessors in a similar role. (It depends on how many points I have.) My Black Templars are great at out-killing my opponents but when I lose a whole unit, it usually costs me a primary and I can fall behind on points. I know that I should use min-size squads instead of max, but it’s difficult to pass up maxing a leader’s ability, like the Helbrecht+Castellan combo on 10 Sword Brethren or 20 Crusaders.

Thats a great video. I look forward for other videos about listbuilding especially for other factions eg Guard or custodes

For dmg dealers/primary obj sitter, don't underestimate Centurion devastator in Ironstorm detachment with missile launchers and twin-las, especially in a repulsor with both gatling and twin-las. They are tanky, already reroll hits to let you oat something else, floating reroll works fantastic on twin-las to let you reroll the dmg roll and the hit on the repulsor. It lets you remove your slow ass models when charged by dangerous things or just to allow you more movement and still get out and shoot the next turn, the repulsor really help with their mobility and survivability on a unit already dangerous and tanky. And if you want to spend a cp on them, Gladius's Storm fire and Ironstorm's Mercy is weakness work really well with their missile launchers, Armor of contempt is also very good. It's an expensive combo at 365 for 3 models + tank but it works really well vs everything. And the repulsor really gives you more mobility then you would think.

Could you please try to make equivalent videos of the other factions too? The predominancy of most video contents is for Marines. Thanks for the dedication to the Hobby btw! :)

This video type but for every army, starting with Tau, please :) Love your videos man they're always super informative. Great job again!

I’d love a video like this for all the armies in the game. Mainly necrons though cuz canoptek court has me using so many ideas

👍👍 Thanks for the breakdown! I have to wonder, maybe 1st Company is _temporarily_ a bit weak because there's a big backlog of Terminator releases due 😁?

I'm pretty new to 40k and have been hoping to build a Celestial Lions army using Black Templars for at least their leaders (Bayards Revenge is awesome!) I've played the Firestorm detachment once or twice with borrowed minis and really enjoyed it, and I also have an interest in the Vanguard spearhead force. I was wondering if Black Templars are decent at using either of those detachments? I'm not really interested in running many (if any) Crusaders or anything since I'm thematically playing Lions not Templars, so I don't expect Righteous Crusaders is the way to go. Currently I only own a captain, 10 Infernus, a Stormraven and a Stormtalon but I'll hopefully get some more soon

Great tips although since I don't own Aggressors would Dev Centurions be a good, 65PTS higher, secondary choice provided you just need the fire power. Dev Cents are +1T/+1W/+1Sv/+1OC/-1M, can always reroll 1's (Full reroll if target is on objective) & their baseline main gun is a Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter. Granted for 10 more PTS one could take Terminators instead, which have a 4+ invul more volume of shots & Deep Strike options, just wondering if they could count as a backup "Tanky" option.

I really enjoyed this video, but I would’ve liked to see 1000 point list to get started.

Honour Vehement on Boltstorm Gravis Captain is pretty excellent as both his main weapon and his Extra Attacks relic weapon benefit. That is S+2 and A+4 power fist attacks in Assault Doctrine with a free AP+1 and Lance from battle tactic Honour the Chapter. Lots of honour going on here.

I feel like you're underestimating kayvaan shrike quite a lot! I'd have raven guard alongside salamanders in the "not quite as good as ultramarines" codex chapter tier.

List building in general is always a matter of perspective and your mentality of how you go into things. What's your playstyle? Aggressive? Control? Hedgehog? One of the key tenets of 40k is that nothing you have on the table is sacred and keeping it alive means something else is wiped. With that in mind and a preference for an aggressive list, one rule to follow is to not have anything that you can't lose. Swamping your opponent with lots of 'I have to kill that' units hampers their decision making and is sure to get something into melee. How you win from there is board control and overwhelming melee or forward moving durable shooters. It should be obvious, but anything that has high stats for its points is an efficient list pick. However, don't confuse something good for the points with something good on the table. I don't think redemptor dreadnoughts have ever been great despite their relative low cost. Their output is swingy, they're impossible to hide and they're slow so getting it into melee is a challenge and if you can't then I'd argue you haven't gotten your points worth out of it. But then meta hits and you realize that all the patterns have been recognized and what to expect. Some guy who brings 12 bikes is doing better than he should and you're sat there with your "optimal list" and are losing because everything he has is on your own side of the table. A strong list is something that YOU can draw its potential out of, not some net-list that you don't understand half of how it works, especially now with all the ability bloat.

In* regards to Anvil Siege force. Like he said, you need something that can take a hit so it can stand there long enough to fire back. Y'know... The Lancer Laser Destroyer on the Gladiator Lancer happens to have the Heavy keyword.... So does the Heavy Laser Destroyer on the Repulsor Executioner... I'm thinking... Firing lanes... Basically "you want no man's land? Come get it."

If Guilliman drops in points a little bit, it will be a great addition to run in Flamestorm Ultramarines. Double Oath, or an extra use either Devastating Flamers or +1 to wound for 0CP.

Gladiator Lancer can be taken with literally any list. By giving itself its own re-rolls, it is proof against rule changes. That being said, it shines in the Vanguard Spearhead, where it becomes very hard to kill, and so can take risker and more advantageous shooting positions than it can in other detachments.

I'd be interested to see how the Dark Angels handle 1st Company and Stormlance detachments.

This man flipping loves the Repulsor Executioner and I don't know why

My Favourite Combo so far is to run a 10 man unit of Terminators with 2 Cyclones, A Terminator Captain for free Strats and a Terminator Ancient with Fire Discipline. You end up with a unit that spits out an absurdly huge amount of firepower, is incredibly tanky, and the more you damage them, the more deadly they get in return! Absolutely incredible brick of a unit to sit on the mid board objective.

I haven't made a list since list 4th edition.. can you take Sicaran Punishers in 40k? :D I just think they look sweet.

im currently rocking DA and using 10x knights with a chaplain for +1 wound is very nice yet to ue vanguard on this army but i will next game and give the chaplain and knights infiltrator to make the enemy focus them whilst my lancer and redemptor shoot/ however im using hellblasters with azreal and a lieutenant for the first time, im just worried that they will be killed easily but my opponents necrons as he has 20x immortals criting on 5+ with good rerolls, what should i take instead of hellblasters to go with my knights

thanks

I just bought 5 Infernus Marines for under £10. 🔥 I don't even play Space Marines often but they turn up sometimes to help my Imperial Guard. 💀

Sternguard are actually better in Anvil Siege Force than in First Company. Give them boltguns and use the stratagem. You can also stick them in Impulsors to sit on objectives.

Auspex why are you such a cool guy?

What are detachments? cuz I see that "Stormlance Task Force (though it's awesome with Space Wolves)" I thought I had to use this Champions of Russ thing but I don't really know what it does for me?

Stormlance wolves... curious to see how people support it. Max out thunderwolves with wolf lords and battle leaders of course... then I'm thinking a gladiator lancer and some desolation squads buffed by a venerable dreadnaught for the auras, couple cheap wolfies for objectives... then squeeze in termies or roll with more objective support ??

Can I request some help? I've been making my own list and, as I collect Salamanders, I run them in the proper detachment with 10 Infernus Marines. I also really love Drop Pods and the original idea was to have the Infernus Marines arrive using that and burning the hell out of something at the perfect 12'' distance to get the +1 Str buff and also get He'Stan to buff them as well. Now the problem is that I'm not sure whether to take them as 2 seperate 5 man Squads or as one 10 man brick. Wouldn't have been a problem previously when we had army wide combat squads. I ask myself this because, as the list stands, I also have a 5 man team of Intercessors, Assault Intercessors, and one 5 man grouo with Adrax Agatone and a Bladguard Lt leading 3 Bladeguard vets. I also have an Impulsor for battle taxi purposes. So while I see that the 10 man would be better for stratagem use, if I make it 2 5 man Infernus Squads I could send down any combination of things with the drop pod: Full melee threat with AI and Bladeguards, mixed with Intercessors/Infernus and Bladeguards, full flame or a ranged mix. The rest can either slog on foot or hop into the Impulsor, one of the spaces of which is reserved for He'Stan anyway, leading an AI or Infernus Squad. So the question really is: Is this tactical versatility worth the potential losses of a 10 man? If you're interested about the rest, I'm bringing a Brutalis, Ballistus, 3 Eradicators, 10 Infiltrators, 3 Eliminators with a Phobos Librarian for character threat, 3 Suppressors cause they're just a sick unit, a Combi-Weapon LT for shooting buffs (sadlly without the melee weapon Str upgrade of the detachment cause that seems fun on him) and last but not least 5 Termies with a Heavy Flamer.

Wouldn’t Ravenwing do okay with the Stormlance Task Force?

My main strat is infiltrators, charging assault intercessors, And a sternguard Party bus

My largest problem with Anvil as a Fists Player is the fact that you only get the 6+++ on an objective and if you control it.

That storm lance list idea of yours seems like alot. That's 2k points?

I can`t find the app you mentioned, can you give link?

Question: I play occasionally against Chaos knights that just rip through my Salamanders army. I ended up getting Eradicators and a repulser executioner to help deal with him, but he still rips me up in turn 2. Is there something that can counter war dog and brigend spam without building my list specifically to counter him?

step one: Templars step two: Oops! All Crusaders!

I dont know what im doing wrong but ive put the army list into 2 different list builders and it keeps coming in at 2010 points

Day 3 of asking for the Legends of the Horus Heresy rules review

I may be alone in this, but... I *really* don't feel enthused about the Detachments as opposed to, say, my interest/hype in 8th edition and even in 9th for, say, my Crimson Fists lists? I don't feel strongly attached to any of the offerings, they feel too set-in-stone and not flexible like previously, and certain units being the way they are (i.e. the Command Squad being 'meh' with their fixed loadout) has me wondering if I'll even do anything this edition. Or see how the Ork Codex looks before abandoning hope :/ Edit: The example list just reinforces my point (not a jab at you, just the nature of 'meta') that there's a heavy lean on Mechanics and Meta as opposed to feeling like you can get away with 'fluff' friendly lists and still have a fighting chance. Probably not the way it is in practice, but that feeling is super offputting?

If you absolutely have to put Shrike in a unit, forget the jump Intercessors, Vanguard Vets are the way to go. You don't want a large footprint on a model whose biggest strength is teleport tricks. Vanguard Vets are more dangerous in a 5 man squad with both better weapons and special pistols, more survivable with Storm Shields, and will give Shrike a more relevant buff in the form of Lethal Hits.

Pedro for the *Crimson Fists :)

_"How to Write a STRONG Space Marine Army List"_ Step 1) Close "Codex: Space Marines" Step 2) Open "Index: Aeldari"

An all comers list isn't building a list that can taxkle any enemy types you can, but instead make you score as much Tactical objectives as possible

Weird you didn't mention Lion with Dark Angels...

Damn, i kinda miss detatcments with troop requirements.

Step 1. Pick a few big guns. Step 2. Win.

Next up, how to write a half-arsed thousand sons list, yet still play it so well you get your own faction nerfed (especially vs space marines)!

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Ultramarines turn out to be better than most of their compliant brothers...who woul'dve saw that coming??

forgot Tor Garadon 😢

I forget to comment on all your videos for : comments for the comments god ! Like for the like throne 😂❤❤❤

New Recruit tends to be better maintained and sig ifica tly less scumy than Battlescribe.

Wait it says azrael isn't able to lead company heroes

Everything's fine and dandy but Scouts, Lieutenant with Combi Weapon and Biologis, unless you proxy them, there's no option to get them (same for Ballistus) and still, some people might say hell no to play with you. For Scouts proxy, I use Necron Warriors + Royal Guard :) seems odd, but I used my 20 yeard old Tau mini as a beakon marker :P

Mostly a miss on the Space Wolf assessment here

I can no more found : Gladiator, Inceptor and Agressor :/

To use older terminology, just disregard the troops section then?

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The best part is that if you can do this for Spehss Mehreens, you can also do it for armies that are actually interesting.

Recommending BattleScribe? Ugh.