How to Write COMPLEX Scenes (Main Plot + Subplots) | Spider-Man 2

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Writer Brandon McNulty

Writer Brandon McNulty

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Complex doesn't mean complicated. Learn how to "max out" your scenes by including both the main plot and subplots. Examples from Spider-Man 2.
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@blueseaturtle6031
@blueseaturtle6031 Жыл бұрын
Scene efficiency - You should find a way to mash your main plots and subplots together to make one awesome scene Main plot: central core conflict Subplot: supporting plots 2:04 (quote of the video) Important scenes should be efficient - Ideally you want your main plots and subplots to overlap as often as possible, especially in the stories larger moments Warning: Don’t overdo it… find balance - you don’t want every single scene to incorporate your main plots and subplots Example: The Matrix Main plot - Is neo the one Subplots - Mentor - Slight romance - Betrayal (that bald white guy) Key to good plot - The main plot is constantly present and you support it with subplots that enhance the story
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Also loved that you tagged a "quote of the video"
@j-rey-
@j-rey- Жыл бұрын
I love how you called Joe Pantoliano, aka Joey Pantaloons, "that bald white guy" 😂. And thanks for this summary. It is great
@TheBluenyt09
@TheBluenyt09 3 жыл бұрын
Subplots helps us writers and readers give depth and understanding on all characters 😎👍
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
Spot-in. If you want depth, you want subplots.
@brrryan2908
@brrryan2908 4 ай бұрын
I'd give you a Grammy for best info video! Thank you, Brandon, for ANOTHER super informative, perfectly edited, and seamlessly smooth flowing video!
@rogeras5966
@rogeras5966 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I haven't noticed this about Spider-Man 2 even if I have seen it 3 times, this is gonna be very useful
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@TheSauceBoss
@TheSauceBoss 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the comparisons to movies
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
This video took a long time to edit, but I didn't mind the effort because Spider-Man 2 is such a classic. Glad you enjoyed, and thanks for watching!
@connorcoltrane1777
@connorcoltrane1777 11 ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies is Fantasic Mr. Fox, and it contains a beautifully efficient scene with Mr. Fox's wife confronting him before the heist on Bean's cider cellar. It incorporates the main plot (Foxy provoking the farmers as part of his midlife crisis), but as well as multiple subplots (the tension between Foxy and his wife, as well as his blatant favoritism for Kristofferson over his own son).
@8ballstreet
@8ballstreet 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. My favorite movie would properly be The Dark Knight. During the fundraising scene we see the main conflict of Bruce's desire to find someone to take the mantle as Gotham's protector. He's literally helping Dent financially so this may be accomplished. We also see the romantic subplot between him and Rachel on the balcony, which ties nicely into his goal of a life beyond Batman when she promises him that she will be there for him once he hangs up the cape. And then we of course have his conflict against the Joker (at least the physical one) when him and his goons "crash the party." Thanks for the video.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of great overlap in that scene
@bnmncd
@bnmncd 8 ай бұрын
I say Sister Act. The main plot begins with a lounge singer who goes into protective hiding in a convent, with the subplot of her, pseudonym Sister Mary Clarence, using her musical talents to take over the church choir, that brings the congregation back to life.
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 5 ай бұрын
But doesn't the subplot kind of overtake the main plot there?
@nilsen5109
@nilsen5109 Жыл бұрын
Ironman 1. At the party Paper pots wearing the blue backless dress in that scene the romance plot going when tony go to get drinks and he meets with the reporter and then the main plot kicks in.
@bradyhoneycutt3564
@bradyhoneycutt3564 11 ай бұрын
Aunt May’s speech is my favorite part of this movie. The train fight scene is 2nd.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
What's you favorite movie? Can you name one scene that includes BOTH the main plot and subplot(s)? Let us know. Also, whats your favorite Spider-Man movie? I need to know.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
@Denizen OfTheDepths I've honestly never seen Shaun of the Dead. Adding it to my list.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
@Denizen OfTheDepths Added. Thanks
@PuppetMaster-Blade
@PuppetMaster-Blade 3 жыл бұрын
Favorite spiderman movie... Probably the 2nd one, i do however like the 3rd alot as well. But my favorite movie though is Lotr. Main plot is destroying the ring, but the movie has many subplots, like my favorite, Gimli getting his 3 hairs 😁😁
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
@@PuppetMaster-Blade Haha yeah LotR is heavy on subplots because of its scope
@potatomanboooi3105
@potatomanboooi3105 3 жыл бұрын
right now i would say the TV series monster is my favorite with its main plot being a doctor saves a life of the most dangerous mastermind murderer and years later he discovers it and tries to stop him whilst also trying to discover why he did it.one of the sub plots is him saving the murderers sister from the murderer.i cant really explain much because i am only around 8 out of 70 episodes in right now but it has a setup for an amazing mystery thriller.i would have to re-watch the spider man movies to see.my most favorite spider man show however is spectacular spider man
@thebasketballhistorian3291
@thebasketballhistorian3291 Жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 one of my favorite movies and made Spider-Man one of my favorite characters.
@ridleyformk1244
@ridleyformk1244 8 ай бұрын
9:21: An example of this comes from Get Out. SPOILERS! In the scene, The subplot is when the MC meets with a blind guy called Jim Hansen. He's a photographer, just like the MC and they talk about how Jim gets help from an assistant, describing everything in great detail to him. They also say that life aren't fair, which links to the main plot that what the white people do to the Balck people, taking over their minds and their lives, isn't fair. This is further linked up by the fact that Jim is in on it too, wanting Chris' body for his own, so he can see again. It's a great movie and I recommend you see it. This is one way of doing it, but does it also count when you have the main character from the main plot being in the background of a certain character's subplot and visa versa? Because I want to try it with my own story.
@thornmollenhoff8698
@thornmollenhoff8698 2 жыл бұрын
I am having difficulty with what exactly is a plot vs story. A video on what a plot is if you don't already have one. Good Video by the way.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
I'll get one done in the coming weeks. Short answer: Plot is a part of Story.
@thornmollenhoff8698
@thornmollenhoff8698 2 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty Thanks. Sometimes, I hear people say that this story has not plot.... which has added to my confusion. Maybe they don't know what a plot is either. I look forward to your next video. I am learning lots.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
@@thornmollenhoff8698 Yeah it's a tricky subject. I'm doing some research into it now, and definitions vary. For me, plot has always been a component of story. Should have a video ready within the next 2 weeks.
@thornmollenhoff8698
@thornmollenhoff8698 2 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty I look forward to seeing the video when it comes out.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
@@thornmollenhoff8698 Next week!
@johncenter4858
@johncenter4858 Жыл бұрын
This is great stuff. You should have 1 million views on this one.
@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Right on time!!
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@venator5421
@venator5421 11 ай бұрын
Instead of a movie, I want to point Prey (the video game) out. This game has a great main plot, but unlike many games, it manages to overlap the secondary quests pretty well with the main quests.
@uncertaintyunravelled8273
@uncertaintyunravelled8273 3 жыл бұрын
Useful video.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
Thrilled to hear it helped! Thanks for watching
@lotharrenz4621
@lotharrenz4621 Жыл бұрын
can't give a positive example, because I haven't thought about it like that before. same with books, too many subplots tend to drive me away. sometimes the extreme negative is when a subplot seems to be connected at first glance, but is further ignored by the MC(s) and has no impact otherwise on the story at all. I tend to forget such episodes, but there was one book by a german author, writing within the world of Shadowrun, where I finished the book to see if there WAS a connection. but there wasn't.
@AlexRamirez-fj4dj
@AlexRamirez-fj4dj Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video on what movies you recommend as all good examples of great dialogue, good writing, good plot and good subplots. The idea is to give an example of the best key points in writing. This is a great example would like to see more. A friend on my wiriting loves my ideas and subpolts but says my dialogue is very weak. Need more help on that
@wiseauserious8750
@wiseauserious8750 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff amigo
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
For whatever reason, KZfaq auto-deleted your comment in my Prologues video. Totally up to you if you want to re-post it (I pasted it below). Either way, thanks for watching! "Favorite prologue: "Zodiac" perfect music, atmosphere, sets the story in motion"
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq deleted another one of your comments on my Setups/Payoffs video. Not sure why they hate you haha but if you want to be entered in the audiobook giveaway, let me know
@dobanator4501
@dobanator4501 10 ай бұрын
My chilhood movies are still my favourite films 20 years later. Haha stand by me, the lost boys, scream!
@stevezagieboylo9172
@stevezagieboylo9172 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Harry Potter formula, which is to have the main plot and one major subplot but they don't interact until the very end?
@potatomanboooi3105
@potatomanboooi3105 3 жыл бұрын
in the story i''m making i think the main plot would be the protagonist runs away from his over obsessive mom after he injects himself with something that gives him superpowers (his power is that he will set on fire if he gets negative emotions and it spreads further and gets hotter the more negative it is and when he injects himself his mom punished him for doing so and he bursts into flames destroying a building)and a subplot would be the protagonist trying to get over porn porn addiction and the mindset he got of woman from that addiction so he can get a girlfriend as well as trying to figure out how to live on your own without relying on a parent.another one would be his mom being forced to live without him and has to come to the fact that the protagonist can survive on his own.i added another character i was gonna make the villain but i figured the protagonists mom is a better villain.i think i should keep the character he could be an interesting side character on how i wrote him.right now im just recapping my planning to figure out some possible consequences for actions and stuff like that.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
That concept sounds awesome. You might want to check out the book Allison by Jeff Strand. It's about a Carrie-esque woman with psychic powers who isolates herself because she doesn't want to hurt people with her powers (which are tied to her unruly emotions)
@potatomanboooi3105
@potatomanboooi3105 3 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty I will give it a read it sounds interesting
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
@@potatomanboooi3105 It's a quick, easy read. If you have Kindle Unlimited, you can read it for free
@potatomanboooi3105
@potatomanboooi3105 3 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty cool
@potatomanboooi3105
@potatomanboooi3105 3 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty does kindle unlimited cost money
@johnylitalo4163
@johnylitalo4163 6 ай бұрын
How do you fix the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
@peterheyes8552
@peterheyes8552 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Please can I ask a question in regards to scene breaks? I have a large cast with quite a few main characters and I am writing in 3rd person multiple. My question is, in each chapter how many scene breaks could I literally get away with when changing POV? Is 2 scene breaks per chapter too many?
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
How long are your chapters? Two scene breaks per chapter should be totally fine, but if you have a bunch of short chapters that are broken up into several parts, you might run the risk of your story having Batman vs Superman Syndrome.
@peterheyes8552
@peterheyes8552 3 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNultythanks for the reply. Roughly my chapters are somewhere between 5 - 10 pages. If my chapter is around 5 pages I could get away with one scene break to change POV but if it is around 10 pages then I could get away with two scene breaks would you say? Or should I up it a little more on the pages e.g. 7 pages = 1 scene break and maybe 12 pages = 2 scene breaks? What you reckon?
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterheyes8552 Here's what I would suggest... Try writing it the way you think is best, and see what your beta-readers think. If they have trouble following or if they get exhausted from all the scene-swapping, dial things back. It's hard to say what's "right" because storytelling is so subjective. Go with your gut, see if that works for your readers, and revise as needed. For what it's worth, Kurt Vonnegut has a number of books with super-short chapters, and he had a lot of success with that style.
@peterheyes8552
@peterheyes8552 3 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty thank you so much.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterheyes8552 Anytime
@ProdigyEraNetwork
@ProdigyEraNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
First comment
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 3 жыл бұрын
Hero.
@ProdigyEraNetwork
@ProdigyEraNetwork 3 жыл бұрын
@@WriterBrandonMcNulty yes
@NurHidayah-te2wq
@NurHidayah-te2wq 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a pedagogical approach to writing complexes scenes, you know, the nuts and bolts. But no, you analyzed Spiderman which was of little use. To me, at least.
@WriterBrandonMcNulty
@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 жыл бұрын
Would you like me to do a nuts & bolts video on complex scenes? Let me know what specific things you'd like me to cover, and I can brainstorm a new video
@gabrielmcmillan
@gabrielmcmillan 6 ай бұрын
CGI didn't age well? Are you kidding?
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