They take advantage of God's love and patience, but God is not mocked, whatever you sow that you will reap.

I feel a way about people who don’t expose crooks and dishonorable people. Anyone who mess with children should be exposed and should never be protected, it allows for the abuse to continue.

Brother!! You need to start calling these artist out by name.

"He wrote us a hot check!" Been there; survived that; Lesson learned! As for the "discretion" thing: I've kept myself from trouble by teaching myself to stay out of everybody's way! I still play for artists occasionally; but after the concert, when someone asks, "Hey, where's Dennis?"... the answer is, "Halfway home!"

My mom sang both Opera and Gospel back in the 80s. She left the music industry altogether because she said regardless of the type of music, everyone with any level of influence uses sex (of all orientations) to gate-keep. There’s artists to this day she can’t stand because she knows what they do behind closed doors.

I cant throw too many stones. I used to play in church bands with good musicians and got a lof compliments, but would go drinking afterwards. Thank God thats over 2 years alcohol free! The praise goes to people's heads, in many years.

Fighting against temptation can be really difficult.... i knew it was a wrap when he said he opened the door & she sat on the bed

Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoureth Me with their lips; but their heart is far from Me.

If an established artist is looking for new band members, you need to find out from the old band members why.

You don't understand that the artist SENT her to your room to INITIATE you so that if you ever told what was going on, you would be telling on yourself.

People have to come to the realization that to some Gospel music is a genre, not a lifestyle. Most of these artist who sing Gospel, do not live it at all. That's why we have to stop looking to them for spiritual advise and leadership.

That’s why I follow Christ and not imperfect humans. Nothing can turn me from the Lord. That’s their cross to bear, not mine.

Tell Katt Williams, he'll put it out there. 😂

I've played with choirs where the members of the band and singers slept together on the road. I've also been on the road and backstage with many very famous gospel artists where I've seen bad behavior by them. Being a Christian, I believed in being holy for God's glory, but many of those famous artists were not. Sad but true

Happy to stumble on this video tonight. In the 90's I was touring with a Gospel artist from Orange County and working in the studio as well. I never had to work harder to get paid in my life by both the artist and the label and the road with them was INSANE. And thanks for your graphic stories, that way I can bury mine. God bless.

This is exactly why the Word of God encourages those that can and will to pray without ceasing! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽. We know exactly the temptation that leaders are confronted with! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

Yup, sounds about right. People will be people, regardless of vocation or spiritual affiliation. Gospel artists are no exception. Either you’re serious about living a godly life or you’re not.

I studied music at a Bible College with someone who worked A&R for a Christian label. He warned us about these things happening. It was eye opening.

When I tell you I want to hear WELL DONE

YOU LET IT HAPPEN! YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED IT.. YOU HAVE YOUR OWN ACCOUNTABILITY,!

Yet another sobering reminder that we all have to stand before God one day…as the saying goes Holiness is still right

There ain’t no way this man would owe me money and I wouldn’t put him on blast 😂

My son's father was a musician for a huge gospel artist for 20 years. When he shared what went on, I wept like a baby because so many people think the world of this person. I rarely, rarely listen to our gospel here in America. I found the purest form through the African spiritual artists. Their songs are pure, ushers in the Holy Spirit and it's REAL. It's sad and you have to be careful about what you listen to because their spirits enter into their songs. Its so real and the vessel and the sound is important. It can create some things that and cause unwanted spirits to attach. Its so much and this is happening so freely as if it's normal.

I don’t even listen to gospel music like I use to. I listen to more praise and worship music that’s based on The Word of God rather than listen to a bunch of artist who try so hard to be like secular artists it’s painful to listen to.

Keep making these videos. I’m a pastor and a musician who has seen how this behavior destroys the Body of Christ.

My man, I've been in music ministry for close to 45 years, and I teach Black gospel music history & performance at a major university. I have similar stories from my touring days that, at one point, seemed to be the rule rather than the exception. One time, I scored music for a well-known artist and only got paid when I ran up on his pastor at a conference and told him I had not been paid despite having sent multiple invoices. He pulled out a roll of money as big as my fist and paid me on the spot. Definitely changed my perspective about certain gospel artists, and taught me how to be vigilant and my handle business differently.

AND YOU DIDN'T STOP HER. OH, YOU WERE IN SHOCK AND OF COURSE YOU KNOW THE REST. WELL, THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

Met Shirley Caesar once years ago……not a nice woman completely changed my opinion on her

We shouldn't really be surprised. The scripture warns us..."Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” Matt 7.15. It is important we stand on the truth (God's word) and not on any one's reputation. People are people. Nobody is exempt. Thanks for being integrous. Blessings.

😞 God is real and He sees all. My heart actually hurts for those "gospel" artists because they don't understand how dangerous it is to play with a God who doesn't play back.

You’d be amazed what goes down at these Full Gospel conferences after conferences. The “sneaking and freaking”, networking for arranged marriages for looks, and hotel room key switches? It’s horrible. It’s a mess. To call it secular is an understatement! Gospel by day, for the streets by night.

My dad traveled with singing groups 60s -70s. He was in a Gospel singing group. He knows several of these people and past artists. My dad said this was going on back then. He said it was known but not spoken on. He said the hotels they stayed in hold many secrets. He is not surprised.

After I got out of the USAF I studied music at the University of Memphis and I had my mind set on becoming the next big gospel producer. I remember one day being invited to the most prominent gospel radio station in Memphis and meeting their number one DJ and after I told him my plans he asked “are you gay?” I said no, and he bluntly told me “well you won’t make it far in gospel”

This is the reason why most female artist are single. Old school mothers would have advise most of the married women to take their spouses with them when they went on the road OR don't go.

One of the worst experiences I’ve had as a young singer was hearing the well known group we were traveling with cussing during the drive! (The drive for those that don’t know was the fast loud shouting music). The people were shouting and hollering while the group were singing random cuss words. Then they laughed about it backstage. I was very young and so shocked! The audience seemingly never knew.

Great, great, great story telling! As a pk my parents were disappointed when I began producing r&b music. I signed with a label and the churches in my area gave me the side eye. But I would ask who their favorite gospel artist was and tell them how they were and what they were doing. They wouldn’t believe me. They wouldn’t believe they were cheating, or gay or one female artist who loves bi men. R&B was exactly like gospel except minus the hypocrisy.

Every name floating in your head, tells a lot about that person.

The tour lasted 4 months, and Your dream came through big time on the very first night.

Be discerning about who you follow and why you follow. My ex- husband was lacking in moral integrity to say the least. He shared with me that members of a well known back in the day gospel group that did a concert in a nearby city solicited chosen women to come to their hotel rooms after the concert. One of the ex-husband’s girlfriends detailed to him all that she experienced with the lead singer of the gospel group so he thought it was fascinating to share this information with me and add that all the members of the gospel group were married. Unfortunately our culture has slipped into a done in the dark …mentality. If Black people held our people accountable we would be better at dealing with the things that are not right that go on in our communities.

How did she get that far with you? You do not appear to be naive. The moment you “felt” that something moving on your leg was the moment to stop her. Moral of your story, “it can happen to anybody.”

I have experienced this first hand. And it's the reason why I'm staying away from singing in gospel groups again.

Your problem is that you think religion is special. It's not. The "gospel" artists are no different than pop or r&b artists. The only difference is that some people have to pretend to be holy.

You met a real person with real problems the bigger the river the bigger the drought! With great success comes great responsibility sadly most can’t handle the spotlight without pride of life,lust of the eyes, and flesh arising. Pride will always lead to a fall and so will gossip!❤

This is very sad. Not all those is the gospel arena are like this, but certainly there are plenty of people who have these issues. True people of faith need to speak up against such things. Glad you escaped and have made a good life for yourself. The check was just the icing on the cake.

I was playing CCM music in the 80's, and opened for a few big Christian acts. I was shocked by the terrible actions and attitudes of the big famous acts. I realized why it was called the CCM Business. It was not at all ministry. 😞

Same can be said, about learning some church folks. It will break your heart, how they play with the Lord. It will have you scratching your head, and asking. Dear Jesus, is there anybody, serious about you?

Babyyyy he ain’t never lieddddd!!!!

He's not lying at all, this is 💯 percent true in the gospel music world I've seen it for myself.

I have a similar story. The ego is so massive that there is no room for anything else. ...and the lies. My my the lies. The integrity with the secular crews was far above anything that ever happened in the "Christian" arena. hands down. Humility, financial integriy, team ethics, and overall professionalism was epic on the road with rock and country acts. My life was darkened every time with a contemporary Christian charted tour. I traveled with only one dude (no airplay) who was the real deal. Small church tours, but it was fun and we ate well. :) I'm old, so my experience dates way back. In 2016 I was approached again and I reluctantly said yes to a one-off record deal and small tour. Nothing has changed. It was successful, yes. But the corruption is as smelly as it ever was, and I was vocal about it. I made a promise that I will never do it again. Use a good manager. Set your standards and stick to them. Been great ever since. ❤

That’s why Le’Andria Johnson went off online … she was sick of it and disheartened by the fakery and abuse. My God my God you gave gifts to bring you glory not play in the devils pig pen… Lord have mercy on them.

There's a difference between someone being talented and someone being anointed. As a musician, don't just seek to be talented. Keep your soul clean so you can be anointed by God.

Whenever there is power, passion, adulation and money there is temptation.

By not disclosing who this was, you are allowing others to walk into this and be taken advantage of. The Bible says we are to call them out and mark them.

My cousin told me the same thing. After being in the studio and seeing what they do behind the scenes. It forever changed her viewpoint on people. And that was about 20+ years ago.

After her hand first touched your leg, that should have been your clue to escort her to the door. The fact that she got that far holding a normal conversation and you let her, means that you had your own set of problems. Why tell all this?

Been there. I picked up a lot of bad habits from gospel musicians. And it’s scary how fast they can turn on the holiness, then zap!, back to being on the down low.

That's why I chose not to travel that path, and it was a decision. Not bragging, but I'm a badd drummer, and I could have traveled that path - gospel or secular. I told God that I wanted to have a family, be a husband, father, and have stability.... and health insurance. Drummers choose that path for the prestige and resume. I'm glad I chose my path, and God blessed it

First of all. U should've stop her from going into the door of your hotel room . Not being star struck to the level of a women sitting on your bed talking. Both of you are guilty 😅

It’s even worse behind the scenes with “pastors and preachers”…I have only met a few who are truly servants of God. Jesus time to shake up pastors and preachers as well as gospel singers who are not Reflecting a Christ Like Lifestyle 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

I hope this video will cause at least one wayward gospel artist to straighten up and fly right.

Bro, “I could never look at her mouth the same” just took me clear out.” 😂😂😂😂

We ALL MUST appear at the Judgement Seat of Christ

The spirit may be willing but u know that flesh is so weak HOLINESS is the only way God bless u my brother

Frist thing is, we have to pray for everyone. Second you should name names. This only leads to speculation as some have tried to guess in the comments. I enjoy your comment but, please remember as we tell or give these accounts always, always remember to call for prayer. Somebody prayed us out, even as we prayed and asked God for strength to change. Thank you for sharing.

Dude was totally complicit in this behavior... from when he slid under the covers (signaling) to accepting the "circus tricks." He's spilling his guts and acting like he's holier-than-thou because he's pissed one of the artist's checks bounced (which is legit). These tell-all people... especially those who go along for the "ride" have an agenda.

you know what. I just realized that even if you don't say the name of the person, you can think about what could happen if you are not careful with your behavior. I just started realizing that if people took some time to study the word, and took ten seconds to slow down from the perverse thoughts that they think and allow the lord to speak in the gap between the unholy thoughts you do have and the sane part of yourself, you will be able to allow the lord to take the throne of your heart and diminish your unholy thoughts. I appreciate this vid terrance, more so as a reflection of what I could become if not careful. Shalom, and peace. Leo Pena

I met someone years ago that said he had more respect for The Rolling Stones and Axel Rose than Black Gospel singers. He had produced tours for those groups and many gospel groups. He also said that on the gospel tours they cussed and drank more than the rock groups. He also that the rock singers had more respect for him because he was a Christian. He did tell me the names of the gospel artists but i can't say because i didn't see it myself.

Kelly price said it even the sundays best are dirty behind the scenes

Listen guys. We have to keep ourselves right even in the midst of those who are supposed to be right. We can’t answer for these guys when we go before the Lord. We can only answer for our own actions. Don’t let the bad part of an apple keep you from eating apples all together. Peace and Blessings!

Yeah, my family toured for years with Gospel artist, and since I’m a musician myself, I’d rather tour with secular circle than the gospel any day you feel more sinful when you with the gospel folk😂😂😂 like facts.

Lmaoooo how he didnt stop rhe girl from doing what she she did in that hotel room 🤔

I’m not surprised. I’m not even shocked. Every genre of the music industry is subject to the same music industry stuff. I had to learn that for myself and govern myself accordingly.

People who tell these stories without naming names--- positioning themselves as if they are not participating in the bad behavior they're highlighting---- are withholding names so they can still participate in the industry and not damage future opportunities for themselves. If you REALLY mean what you say and want to condemn these behaviors-- you would CALL OUT the names of people who are misrepresenting God, or even hurting people so there can be accountability and change. If you're not trying to do anything about it, then keep it yourself instead of making these videos feigning shock and concern.

🔥 warning - most of artists try to set you up 🔥 don’t y’all ever fall for it

Kanye did a tour with Gospel folks. He also said the same thing. How people were sleeping with each other, stealing from him and others…he started to question things

Kirk said he wrote a lot of his "hits" Adam-naked. The "industry" is just that. An Industry.

Terence....you're right. I've done several gospel tours and you are telling the truth sir.. #NewLife

Jesus called out demons that's why this continue no one has any power to cast out this spirit you should have rebuked that spirit but i appreciate your honesty God help us

Growing up in the church here in the south caused me to see a lot of contradictions related to church going people. Adultery, s/ex acts in church, pregnancies, misappropriation of funds, d/rugs, STD/s being transmitted. A lot of the time church is more worldly than the world outside.

One of your best videos and so so so true. As a Radio DJ on both clubs and on the radio I have done different events with Gospel artists and have toured with a Gospel group. Let me tell you...first hand....I was super surprised. I grew up in the church and my father was a minister but I did DJ in the clubs for several years. So like yourself, Im thinking " Mmm...I gotta make sure I fly right being with these guys"...don't need no scandals or problems ................................... There is a blank space for a reason.....I saw it all! Some of these Gospel artists or much worse than the R&B and Hip Hop people. Touring is a way to "get out of the house" and I've seen dudes hit everything that wasn't nailed down. I've also seen "Polly Purebread types" doing things that would have your mouth dropped down to the floor. Drinking, Plenty of that, and it goes on and on. I remember my Program director of a station was hosting a Gospel concert in the city. MAJOR gospel artists. The concert was sold out. Went off without a hitch. At the end of the concert....(or as they say "program" because we aren't doing it for "show") The headliner decided to "raise an offering" because we all had been blessed with this wonderful experience. Now keep in mind....people had paid anywhere from $25 - $50 for tickets. (maybe more). The offering raised about $50,000 or so. So the Gospel Artist, my Program Director, and the Promoter went in the back and SPLIT the "offering". That was a "bonus" or as they call it "the blessing"! Remember that was on TOP of the ticket sales that were already purchased. So I am saying all of that to let you know that everything you laid out is not only true but it goes to another level!

I met her before several times but I escaped every time because wisdom bailed me out.... "For the lips of the adulterous woman drip honey, and her speech is smoother than oil; but in the end she is bitter as gall, sharp as a double-edged sword. Her feet go down to death; her steps lead straight to the grave. She gives no thought to the way of life; her paths wander aimlessly, but she does not know it." Proverbs 5:3-8 and again.... Proverbs 7:6-27 "For at the window of my house I have looked out through my lattice, and I have seen among the simple, I have perceived among the youths, a young man lacking sense, passing along the street near her corner, taking the road to her house in the twilight, in the evening, at the time of night and darkness. And behold, the woman meets him, dressed as a prostitute, wily of heart. She is loud and wayward; her feet do not stay at home; now in the street, now in the market, and at every corner she lies in wait. She seizes him and kisses him, and with bold face she says to him: 'I had to offer sacrifices, and today I have paid my vows; so now I have come out to meet you, to seek you eagerly, and I have found you. I have spread my couch with coverings, colored linens from Egyptian linen; I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love till morning; let us delight ourselves with love. For my husband is not at home; he has gone on a long journey; he took a bag of money with him; at full moon he will come home.' With much seductive speech she persuades him; with her smooth talk she compels him. All at once he follows her, as an ox goes to the slaughter, or as a stag is caught fast till an arrow pierces its liver; as a bird rushes into a snare; he does not know that it will cost him his life. And now, O sons, listen to me, and be attentive to the words of my mouth. Let not your heart turn aside to her ways; do not stray into her paths, for many a victim has she laid low, and all her slain are a mighty throng. Her house is the way to Sheol, going down to the chambers of death." Hope you learned. Inappropriate woman, scenario, yourself, and story you shared here.

This comment may not go over well but can we talk about it?! Is this a safe space? Brother i love what you are doing on your channel but i think you may have missed a moment to go beyond the exposure and share God's principles. Brother, I hear you but this video comes off one sided. No lesson at the end? No repentance on your part just exposure?! Is this the new come up for getting views? I asked respectfully . What's your real intentions? I do not want to assume anything this is why I'm respectfully asking you a question. The lessons may seem obvious but maybe not to especially new believers or young people like yourself at the time who are nieve to situations like this. I dont want to come off judgemental but i do want practice holiness, set apart as God intended us to be. Hold on let me take this out of my eye...Brother where is the accountability on your part? Are we just going to blame it on the age? Although immaturity and inexperience comes to play in this situation we still need to repent...no? Brother can we examine ? Here are a few questions for you and anyone who been in this situation.... respectfully, no need to lie to me. Be honest with self. We all know you cannot lie to the Holy Spirit. Scripture tells us to examine self so here we go...self examination questions: Why did you let the girl in your hotel room (especially if your roommate was sleeping)? Why didn't you end the conversation after she said she was just checking in you both? Why were you sitting on the bed together? No lounge area in room? You did say it was a nice hotel. Why did you lean back and position yourself to receive (I know what you said but again, be honest) Why did you stop her and asked her to leave as soon as she touched you the first srcond or third time? Why didn't you question her motives or call her out lovingly? Why werent you honest with your feelings and say sister this is a bad idea? Why are you really telling us about this experience? What do you want us to take away from this video? Lastly, things could have went far different like false accusations that could have ruined your life brother but by Gods mercy snd grace it didn't. You are one of the blessed ones but others experiences turned out completely different. Brother, your channel is amazing. I appreciate the musician pay rate video. Great content but this right here... brother you can use this opportunity to do more than exposed but share the gospel by sharing your experiences with others as a warning but an opportunity to share the gospel otherwise, whats the point?! I know this is your channel but i see you doing so much more than just exposing. There are lessons in this video and we should not assume people should know them. Thank you for reading. God bless you for real for real. biblesnapshots dot com

I used to be a worship team leader in a small church and I can tell you most of them have this issue. It's the reason they come to church seeking help/deliverance

Crazy. Weird. Yet you accepted the act. Nothing can change unless somebody is willing to stop and say NO!

MAAAAN!!! Your story brings back a lot of painful memories for me also!! Because of my experience playing with a LOT OF MAJOR GOSPEL ARTISTS, I no longer play ANY gospel music. Some of these artists are WORSE than the R&B/Hip Hop Funk artists!!!!

My mind is telling me noooo! But my body.... My body's telling me YES!!! -R. Kelly You know u liked it...

I believe every word! I grew up singing in COGIC & many choir members slept with the minister of music.The first lady slept with female lead singers all the time from our church and visiting singers too...after witnessing all of that I never wanted to come back because the lying and sneaking and fake ness was too much.

I think it’s Greg O’Quinn the man that gave the world “I told the Storm” in the 90’s. It was very very popular to the point where ALL churches were singing it back then AND praise dancers were dancing to it. The only other female lead Songs of the 90’s that were created by Male gospel artists/Choir directors Were “the storm is over now” by Kirk Franklin And “calling my name” by Hezekiah Walker. But then he said “we never heard about dude after that” which made me think about one hit wonder Greg 🤔🤔 just a hypothesis

I’m personally not surprised by this story at all. In retrospect, I can see how fortunate I truly was to not have made it deeper into this type of circle as far as the industry is concerned. I’d say this though. Although I respect your decision to not name names, I would venture that people feel empowered to continue with this type of unchecked behavior because no one holds them accountable. What you call integrity, they call discretion.

This is my first time actually tuning in to your channel. I see you gram fam!

WOW. I was just speaking about this YESTERDAY as I was talking to a group about my time as a KID TRAVELING AND PLAYING WITH QUARTET GROUPS. IF GAYS are normally associated with choirs, this is NOT the case with quartets. They are all VERY STRAIGHT AND LOVE TO TALK ABOUT WOMEN. I first heard of ORAL se- with women from QUARTET SINGERS singing "That's my son hanging on the cross." LOL!!!!! I was forever changed cause I thought errbody was saved!

Wow. Some worship me with their “mouth” but not with their heart.

We started to Tour with The Swan Silvertones and James Cleveland with his Singers. Only did one show. What we saw at the After Party would question the sanity of these people. Drug use Prostitutes and Homosexuality was....Hell I can't explain it.

I use to want to be a famous worship leader but that has slowly changed after some of the stuff I’ve experienced in church on a team and then attempting to lead at a certain place. It m glad God gave me grace to step away and figure that out. Thank you for sharing this story.

Jesus said it himself, not everyone that says Lord Lord shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven but he that does the will of the father! Just because someone professes Christ doesn't mean they LIVE for Christ. It's crazy because I know America and other parts of the world have this thing about Preachers, Musicians etc where they can't discern when something ain't right and it ends up messing up a lot of non-believers because they're impression of church is those very people PLAYING church and not actually living the Gospel. Breaks my heart because I remember coming to America last year and being like "how do people here not see the deception". I pray that God exposes all those who abuse their position and power and are just using God's name and platform for personal gain.

To all those saying I stopped playing gospel music because this or that gospel artiste messed up, its like saying I stopped being a Christian because I met hypocritical Christians. Jesus Himself prophesied this. So get serious with your walk with God.

We all knew this was going on but people are now exposing it which is good. The veil is coming off. God is separating the sheep from the goats.

So true... And this is actually an international challenge. Touring with goapel artists made me stop listening to gospel music all together

The worship leader at our church put out 1 CD and went on 1 tour, came home, stopped recording, and decided to never tour, never record, and give everything he had to leading worship locally from then on. Now we know why.

I would like to thank you for your honesty and knowledge. this was informative and truthful about what goes on in the temple. Just subbed.