If any WHAT PART OF EUROPA had the deadly Dangerous streets before new tram/busses.. Germany???? Ehh

And that is very good!

The heritage tram in Istanbul is so nice!!

that's awesome, makes me wanna go to Turkey!

I love that the they are definitely becoming more trendy once again, and the more major global cities that redesign to include such infrastructure, the easier it becomes to convince others to trickle that down into other cities as well.

Will you make a video on Turkey?

Correction : currently 4 and soon 5 tram lines. Also, trams are noisy. Very noisy, because the city center has narrow streets, which leads to high angled turns. Something trams don't like (lots of wear and tears and accelerated aging), and my ears even less. If you live along one of those lines, you just can't open your windows because of the noise. If I have one advice to city planners : trams are great, but they are much, much, much better if rubber-tyred if your city is and old european medieval one. I guess classic trams are very good for American style towns with grid-like map and wide streets.

Small correction: there is currently 4 and soon 5 (4a and 4b are basically the same circular lines than go in opposite directions)

@patrickchinka Politics...

Only one of the train stations is anywhere near the trams. Hopefully that gets solved fairly soon, because confused tourists like me would expect not to need to take a shuttle from the train station to a tram stop.

@@JonathonV The line 1 will be extended to the other train station "soon". I don't remember the exact date, and delays are always a possibility. The problem here was that train station build in the middle on nowhere.

bordeaux ☠ the city has horrible traffick and is undrivable, + it's plagued by crime

literally one of the worst french cities to live in

@@Yoshi-wt4lg Why are you lying ?

@@languerouge5385 im not

​@@Yoshi-wt4lgare you sure? I think you may be referring to Nantes. But even there the tram system is great.

I know that feel, that's a sad story

Glasgow also had trolley-busses. And it built a motorway right through the centre of the city!

Certainly DON'T take you inspiration from the omnishambolic Edinburgh Council's trams! (Is say tram(s) plural), it's only 1 line and not even a circle line like Glasgow's clockwork orange.

Monorail go brrr

Thats the worst I have heard in a long time. Car hegemony is the worst. Luckily its been dying as there is no future for cars

Well as someone who lived in Bordeaux for 5 years I can tell you that there is one major backside to tramways; there are very VERY slow. Actually I used to spend 3h/day in tramways when I went to the University because I lived in the eastern side of the city and the University was on the western side. Both cities are separated by about 10km but it always took me 1h30 to go from one to the other. Except for that flaw there is also the terrible moment at 5pm where you literally have 0 space for yourself and have to be compressed between people. That is a flaw that concerns most public transportation systems though, but I think it stills needs to be pointed out. Spending around 3h/day with people all around you and having no space was really a bad experience

​@@virgoh1124 Hm, i have other experience. Ich drive a tram through munich to my workplace from east to west like 16 kilometers and i only sit 45 minutes in it for one way. So for the hole day it is 1:30 which is okay, because i read a book or so in that time.

@@barlauch9292 I've been to Germany (Munich and other towns) and the public transportation there is on a whole other level. Always on time and very effective

I liked it very much. This combination of good urban planning and mountains close by is just gorgeous. Hope to visit again one day.

C'est plutôt le laboratoire de l'Islam aujourd'hui

@@blaiseragon8142 non ?

@@blaiseragon8142 matrixé l'autre

@@blaiseragon8142 non

Exactly! That's how good public transportation works! Small correction - current Nantes tram works since 1985, not the 70s)

Nantes was the first of the French cities that opened a second generation tram network, 10 years before the goverment decision to reintroduce trams in 1975. Was the start of all... only three vintage networks survived the 50s. At present there are nearly 30 networks.

peuh, in Lyon it's 250€ per year for students.

and it’s free on week-ends !

In Strasbourg it's now free until you're 18, and dirt cheap if you're a low-income household

Seems that i'll have to make part 2 of this video)

Yeah I concur! There must be a part 2 or short that features Montpellier's network, the upcoming line 5 and new electric BRT longer distance lines that complement and extend the trams to far flung suburban villages. Montpellier's transportation development around trams, BRT's and the "online" high-speed train station in the Southern outskirts of the city is really great and inspiring. A great subject for an "addendum video" to complement this one with another example. I'm sure several locals would provide footage and information.

@@cityforall Just make a video on Montpellier, and La Grande Motte, and La Gruissan Plage. Doesn't have to be about trams. The video can be about France having the best culture in the world with the most pleasant people and the most enjoyable atmosphere!! J'adore ❤❤❤❤(minus unleashed dogs and dog shit everywhere)

@City for All Yes!!! Part 2 on trams in French cities please 🙏🏼 I'm making a list of cities to visit in France from your list hehe

Nice has also been missed. I remember visiting the city well over ten years ago when they were just starting work.

They are powered from a third rail on the middle of the track. There are other cities that use that system in the city centre, but it increase costs of the system.

I’m also a huge fan of the segmented third rail trams! It bugs me that nobody seems to mention them, when they’re a huge esthetic improvement over the typical tram power system. I think more people would like trams if they didn’t require cables all over the place, so the segmented third rail systems, while higher cost upfront, would lead to lower costs over the long run.

it is capable of using both overhead lines and a third rail, allowing the network to be expanded for cheap and also preventing visual intrusions for overhead lines in the inner city

Cloud is not what I expected a saint's make to be hahaha

@@tomasbeltran04050 His name was more like Clodoald, but it became Cloud through the centuries. There's a wonderful park in this posh city, it belong to a royal and imperial castle overlooking the Seine but this castle was destroyed unfortunately in 1871 during the franco-prussian war...

@@marcelcharbonnier297 Clodoald does sound like an expectable name for a king or noble in medieval France, specially from ðe years 400-1000. I'm sad ðe castle was lost, and really wanna visit ðe place in ðe future

@@tomasbeltran04050 Yes. Clodoald was the grandson of Clovis the First who baptised the French people into christianity. He became an ermit and was made a saint by the church and he passed away in a little village which became the town of Saint-Cloud.

@@tomasbeltran04050 Aerial views of the parc of Saint-Cloud, with the remains of its beautiful fountains : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMB9mMWnl6iblps.html

I take that line to porte d'aubervilliers every day (I don't even know how things look like west of there) and it always amuses me to see the homeless people sleeping all over the place, but as you said, it's not dangerous around the tram line.

Salut neighbour!

Thanks for your comment! That's very interesting, I didn't know about South Korean tram project. I should read more about it.

I will visit Seoul in a month. What are some good existing tram lines?

Seoul and Trams BHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, don't follow Europe they have tiny and unpopulated City , Seoul have 5X the population than Paris, Trams in Seoul will be disaster, you need to wait for 3-4 Trams before even get any space during peak hour......

Toronto trams looks very nice but they deserve to have dedicated lanes so they will not get stuck in traffic

​​@@cityforall signal priority is actually 10x more important compared to having dedicated lanes, an example in Toronto is the Spadina avenue Where despite the fact that streetcars/trams have their own dedicated lanes you can still jog faster because it has to wait at intersections for quite some time and this is something that French cities generally avoid quite well

@@gulagkid799 yep, you are right. traffic signal priority is veeery important.

Fellow Torontonian here. Yes, our trams need more dedicated right of ways, like ok’ing Spadina, St. Clair and Queens Quay.

True, a tram is a "walking accelerator"

Thanks) If you have any suggestions for the next videos topics - you're welcome)

I was wondering is there a place for me in that Universe))

@@cityforall Keep making and improving your content and soon enough you'll be off to NYC by the $$$ of your patrons. :)

@@karcinor Oh, yeah! Sounds great!))

@@captainultraswagga what? Nonsense!

@@captainultraswagga Vote something else next time. You value freedom and individual rights. I do too. I've been to Prague, and your city could be so much better if you made it less car-centric. Look around you, man! You put a six-lane highway(?) and a ginormous parking lot outside your city's main train station. Your charming streets should be pedestrianized, but all these parking spots are bigger than the sidewalk. It's a horribly wasteful use of space. This car-centric culture makes everyone LESS free. When cities ditch the car, its inhabitants are healthier, more free and can spend more money on local goods and services. It's a win-win.

I know that feel)

Well it's not that hard to make it better, some traffic signals and the job can mostly be done, if some local government wants to make the step.

Unfortunately, Toronto was restructured politically so that suburbs surrounding the city have all the political power and they are very car centric

Vote for a council that's pro transit, this policies cannot happen if more than half the council doesn't care about transportation

If that can reassure you, when the first tram line opened in Orléans in 2000, a lot of people complained about it being a waste of money, a ridiculous investment for such a small city (back then, the cities with new tram systems were in metro area close to 500 000 inhabitants, or even bigger ones, while Orléans' was around 270 000 inhabitants). The next municipal elections happened only a few months after the line opened, it was operating significantly behind the ridership targets and the mayor who had been behind the projet was beaten, his project of a second line and turning some car lanes along the first line into bike lanes were abandoned by the new mayor/city counsel, who was not a big fan of taking space away from cars. In the following years, the first lane did reach its target, a second line was built in 2014 (the one featured in the video), a couple of stations were added to the first line to provide access to new developments in 2019 and a car lane has been turned into a two-way bike path along a small part of the first lane in 2020, temporarily at first, during the lockdowns, and is now permanent. And even if there is still significant opposition to basically any new project, I'd say nowadays no one thinks having a tramway in a city that size is ridiculous and would never work, and I don't know many people who would want to go back, despite some of the issues with the first line (errors in the initial construction and maintenance require regular work on the rails, typically performed in the summer months).

@@filiaaut Yeah this is a great story. And though they just posted an annual loss of 12 million kroner or 1.7 million euros due to lower than planned passenger revenue, Im not so worried about Odense though, they're quite likely to expand their system. They have a phase 2 which theyll need to decide on soon and many developers are very interested in investing in the city, but their support hinges on the construction of the Phase 2. And if they dont build phase 2 well then Ill be back to tell I was an optimistic fool. Its more so the other Danish cities I'm worried about. Aarhus and Copenhagen. Aarhus is... weird. Their system opened in 2017 and still suffers from ridership less than half of the projections... though it is growing. And they suffer from very weird issues that should be easily fixable. Like not having ice protection on their pantographs despite being in Scandinavia. All of this and more has made Aarhus's system and its flaws turn much of the Danish public across the country against light rail. But the city has already cancelled 2 of its 3 proposed light rail extensions in its phase 2. And the final proposed extension is being studied alongside BRT for the same corridor. All the while the city is studying BRT for a completely different corridor, where the report just recently concluded that it'd cost twice what the city had expected. So they're looking for federal funding and there is a pool of funding allocated to Light rail and BRT projects which the final phase 2 LRT project is elligible... but they might try to downgrade it now to BRT to try and fund both. It also doesn't help that the public and populist politicians are spreading pipedream stories about BRT to tout it as a suitable replacement for light rail and claiming it'd fix any issue anyone has ever complained about with light rail. And as for Copenhagen its a big can of worms. The citys suburbs has a single orbital tram line along a ring road thats being built now and will open in 2025, finally giving a return to trams in the metropolitan area since 1972. But within the city proper support is weak. A few years ago there was a proposal for a phase 2 of the light rail that'd run in the north west of the city, linking the suburbs with the denser core at a transit hub, replacing part of the city's busiest bus line, the 5C (which also happens to be the 2nd busiest bus route in all of europe with over 17 million annual passengers or about 50k daily passengers pre-covid). The project even received state funding but the city hall's majority declined it on DAY ONE! They called it "The gift nobody wanted" and touted all sorts of fearmongering about trams and how they'd supposedly make the street dangerous to cross, would lead to unbearable noise for residents, and would kill all local businesses "Because everyone would be passing by on the train rather than be able to park and shop as they please". Politicians from the Conservative party and the Danish Liberal Party Venstre both even went as far as Comparing Tram tracks to THE BERLIN WALL!!! Plus some politicians, especially from the Social Democratic Party claimed that a light rail would crush their dream of building an underground metro to the areas it would serve, despite politicians from the very same party having been in power in the city for over 100 years and regularly ruled the government and have never done it despite proposals being put forth time and time again since the 1930's! Alas the city is now studying BRT on the corridor with Light rail as an unpopular alterative being studied in the same process. Though again the politicians massively favour BRT.

@@drdewott9154 those are all good pupils of the mayor that closed the original system in 1972...

I live in Orléans, i use tram to get school everyday and you see it as something wonderful😂

First read "I'm from Portland" and wondered - why is it poor?) May be it's not because of poorness but because you were aware of sustainability when it wasn't a mainstream?)

Oh, what about Olsztyn? A have an idea to make video about it :)

Not yet, though: it will be in december.

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I’m also from Brest and love my town. ❤

@@w.k.7277 Same but one should accept the possibility our brains are just rotted. I saw a movie once that started with panoramic shots of the port of Le Havre and it occurred to me in retrospect that we were supposed to think it was bleak and ugly. I just thought "amazing views, looks like Brest, very inspiring start to this movie".

English is not my native so I'm kinds struggling with that. But anyway thanks for watching and commenting!

Americans English often has more direct meaning words as well and of course the global dominance of American culture contributes to it

I live in Lyon too, near Part Dieu

Yes, building from scratch has it's advantages

Thamk you! Next video like this I'm going to make about trams in USA. Stay tuned!

Hi, I'm from Leipzig, Germany. We have a similar situation here. The night traffic sucks, therefore in winter and for the people who can't or don't want to cycle at night the public transport offers little and bad options at night. In nearby Dresden though, they do it much better for people who go out.

Visited both this cities and like them both too)

Woohoo!

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Ahaha, smart use of otherwise useless and costlty feature

@@retropaganda8442 not useless and definetely not costly. it helps with rain management, controls the noise the tram makes, helps with the urban heat island effect and also improves air quality and makes the street cooler and more visually appealing.

@@hypernewlapse Those are just ecoreligious believes.

Thanks for watching it :)

Somewhere here i saw comment that Paris trams are slow)

@@cityforall Well, I don't know any other tram system to compare, but they're fine enough to me. They sure stop a lot and riding a bike is faster, but it's still a lot better than taking the bus. 😅

That's great, thanks!

Very interesting comment, I was recently wondering at how I couldn't think of any trams in the UK although you'd think they'd have some so thank you for fully answering my unasked questions.

That's great, thank you)

yup. a benefit people don't realize is that having a tram is a very powerful "path" to follow walking. I actually walk a lot more now that there's one in my city

As far as I can see from this comments - Angers is the happiest city in France :)

@@cityforall really yeah

Thanks!)

I visited France outside Paris so I can't ignore another cities)

Looking at unusual cities is, what's pretty great about this channel.

Thanks! Glad to hear that! Next video is coming!

I visited Tours last summer and enjoyed using the trams to get around, and especially Rue National in the city centre being restricted to trams, pedestrians and cyclists. Only complaint I had was the 1/2 km walk from the airport to the tram. The line should be extended to the airport terminal.

And there is also a train-tram network in the works for Tarragona!

I'm glad that youy liked the video! Hope new line will be better than the others.

@@dalriada7554 we have in recent years started adding more dedicated bus lanes although they are largely toward the universities. I believe there are further plans to expand on this, which is necessary. I will gladly accept at least better improving our bus system. It isn't awful, but it isn't great because it can be stuck in awful traffic.

Thank you ;)

It would be wonderful for Rio to have trams. But if I remember well there were trams in Rio in the 60ties.

@@antoinemozart243 you are right. And in the 60s almost all trams got rid. It reamined only Santa Teresa's trams, a very small part of Rio. At least in 2015 a new tram line was developed, linking Santos Dumont airport and Novo Rio station do Downtown area. It's not a really big area, but we need to start somewhere.

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It will be free soon.

the vast majority are but Spanish manufacturer CAF has slowly but steadily earned some contracts too (Marseille, Montpellier, Nantes, Besançon...)

At Nantes we have Alstom, Bombardier and CAF, each in different decades and lines :p

Great) That motivates me to make next videos)