How Treyarch Became Loved While Infinity Ward Became Hated (COD Video Essay)

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Күн бұрын

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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:25 The Infamous Cod CYCLE
4:58 Warzone The Cash Cow
6:40 The Modern Problems With COD
7:40 Why People Love Treyarch SO MUCH
10:40 Why Treyarch's CODS Are Special
18:18 How Infinity Ward Became Hated
21:00 Conclusion

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@ptrcrispy
@ptrcrispy Ай бұрын
"Its just Big Me" - Treyarch
@crazymarkiplierfan
@crazymarkiplierfan 4 ай бұрын
People can feel the soul that goes into everything Trearch does. Even when they're restricted by Activision or pulled from the project entirely, you can still feel they tried their best.
@xshadowscreamx
@xshadowscreamx 8 ай бұрын
Activision tricking people into thinking gunsmith is a good thing was genius.
@SUDAGANGTV
@SUDAGANGTV 5 ай бұрын
Been saying for years that Gunsmith is over rated!
@londonwatson7342
@londonwatson7342 2 ай бұрын
I only like gunsmith because I suck and I need all the attachments I can get, but if they went back to pick 10 I wouldn’t necessarily be sad about it as long as i get 2 tacs and deadies 😂
@Nooneishereonlyme
@Nooneishereonlyme 2 күн бұрын
Because it's a good thing
@Nooneishereonlyme
@Nooneishereonlyme 2 күн бұрын
​@@SUDAGANGTV no it's not
@Nooneishereonlyme
@Nooneishereonlyme 2 күн бұрын
​@@londonwatson7342 No
@cpmcgee-ef3xv
@cpmcgee-ef3xv 8 ай бұрын
I got to prestige 17 in cw, and vanguard made me stay away from anything in the series that’s not CoD black ops
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 8 ай бұрын
Get ready for next year then baby!!
@AmaAndZing
@AmaAndZing 6 ай бұрын
a true tweyawch fanboy:
@codywarhawk7099
@codywarhawk7099 4 ай бұрын
Cold War is so incredibly broken.
@anarchy6417
@anarchy6417 8 ай бұрын
Treyarch feels like the arcadey shooter that CoD is suppose to be not a semi-realistic mil sim. If i want a realistic shooter i would play battlefield or something like that.
@wolfen8619
@wolfen8619 6 ай бұрын
Battlefield isn't realistic though.
@dillydraws
@dillydraws 4 ай бұрын
But they also do some of the best stories
@billy-yl3ql
@billy-yl3ql 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for giving mr robot love. Most underrated show ever
@G-FORTY7
@G-FORTY7 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s pretty much as simple as map design. Treyarch maps promote movement and make much more sense in an arcade type shooter. Much less verticality and much less head glitches, actually lanes, and spawns make sense. Also sliding should be removed completely, it’s not good for Call of Duty. That’s my take
@SUDAGANGTV
@SUDAGANGTV 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god YES. Sliding immediately ruins the flow of COD. Dolphin Diving is all we need! 👌🏾
@lukasor9936
@lukasor9936 4 ай бұрын
treyarch is literally the camp fest, ALWAYS has been, Treyarch maps always focus on power positions and the goal essentialy is to get them or die trying. Also 150 health promotes shotguns and snipers heavily, so camping and holding long angles is the best way to get results which people do in Treyarch games. Add overpowered defensive utility and underpowered offensive ones and you get the camp fest that is every Black Ops after BO2. BO2 was the last good game from Treyarch since they didn't go nuts with the casuals focused gameplay.
@SUDAGANGTV
@SUDAGANGTV 4 ай бұрын
@@lukasor9936 You're head is screwed on backwards... 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣
@nottyler24
@nottyler24 2 ай бұрын
@@lukasor9936nah, mw games are filled with 10x more spawn campers, players are literally scared to move because you die in 2 bullets
@Nooneishereonlyme
@Nooneishereonlyme 2 күн бұрын
No
@rabituin1474
@rabituin1474 7 ай бұрын
IMO the last CoD that actually felt like it had real passion and love put in was Infinite Warfare. If you look at the Campaign and especially Zombies you'll see it.
@it2spooky4me79
@it2spooky4me79 6 ай бұрын
Lee Ross was a legend
@arkthegreenwolfx3627
@arkthegreenwolfx3627 5 ай бұрын
I'd argue also Black Ops 4, but only for zombies. Regardless of the actual gameplay, most of the maps in that game are stunning, and filled to the brim of love with every detail.
@dillydraws
@dillydraws 4 ай бұрын
​@@arkthegreenwolfx3627I'd also argue cold War as well. It felt like they tried their best given that they had to come and fix the game and only had like a year
@Nikoitsromanletsgobowling
@Nikoitsromanletsgobowling 2 ай бұрын
BO:CW Had a shit ton of passion too, just way too rushed. IW's enemy is generic but the campaign still absolutely bangs, 8-9/10
@Pickleboi.
@Pickleboi. 2 ай бұрын
@@NikoitsromanletsgobowlingI personally hated the IW campaign it just felt so repetitive and boring tbh and the fact that you had to pay to access the other zombies maps was so dogshit. Cold War zombies was okay but it was levels above IW zombies. Outbreak is underrated.
@davidjackson5966
@davidjackson5966 11 күн бұрын
Is this dude’s background music from Thing Thing Arena 2? Broooooooo you’re bringing back 2007 memories man 😭😭
@bpsavage8921
@bpsavage8921 6 ай бұрын
Mw2 campaign was low key underrated
@KidneyStealer02
@KidneyStealer02 4 ай бұрын
The levels was fun
@mtwhelios
@mtwhelios Ай бұрын
nah not really, it was loved by alot of og cod fans
@SpongebobsRippedPant
@SpongebobsRippedPant 8 ай бұрын
100% agree with everything you said! Awesome and underrated vid
@Want2TickleFight
@Want2TickleFight 6 ай бұрын
2024 is my last COD if treyarch mess it up
@Mason048
@Mason048 2 ай бұрын
Treyarch is carrying the whole damn franchise at this point
@Thenoob21
@Thenoob21 2 ай бұрын
The twin towers line... Oh my 😂
@ItsSpeedyVR
@ItsSpeedyVR 6 ай бұрын
So i originally said this was good but then as soon as he said "Outbreak just took warzones assets and mushed it together" I just died 💀 they run on sperate engines and they remade the gun just to be put into warzone ALSO he said mw2019 "was based around warzone" which BTW didnt come out until a few MONTHS after launch 💀💀
@GhastlyGrapes
@GhastlyGrapes 8 ай бұрын
Love the vid. Also if you like zombies you should try darktide.
@Papa_Squwat
@Papa_Squwat 8 ай бұрын
I will forever miss the Shuffle Dance in Black Ops 4
@mtwhelios
@mtwhelios Ай бұрын
love the fact that you used the necromancer theme from castle crashers
@KidneyStealer02
@KidneyStealer02 4 ай бұрын
Hope the gunsmith system cloud be better if there no increased or decrease in damage,recoil, etc.. for all attachments except scopes and mags. So anyone can have equal playing field with their customized weapons, and probably currency system from black ops 1
@GOATnaldosiuu
@GOATnaldosiuu 3 ай бұрын
i hope treyarch removes that gunsmith and goes back to pick 10
@deceased_toker389
@deceased_toker389 8 ай бұрын
FACTS 🗣️🔥
@RoyalSouls
@RoyalSouls 7 ай бұрын
What's crazy is everything you said here was true. I'm really excited for the next cod mostly because this one's apparently been in development for 4 years. But I'm curious as to what your thoughts are on the next game afterwards as apparently it's supposed to be a sequel to Black ops 2 and I'm worried treyarch is not making it.
@TheChosenOne66501
@TheChosenOne66501 6 ай бұрын
20:43 "What sounds better?!" sounded exactly like Andrew Tate lmaoo
@RVN-ps2wg
@RVN-ps2wg 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video about rainbow 6 siege. Like what is your opinion ect...
@lukasor9936
@lukasor9936 4 ай бұрын
it didn't, you just got yourself into an echochamber.
@ratking7383
@ratking7383 3 ай бұрын
What music is used at the start? Can anyone please tell, i remember it but can,'t tell where i heard it from
@mtwhelios
@mtwhelios Ай бұрын
The song is simple sight(castle crashers necromancer's theme) by piercing lazer
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 8 ай бұрын
According to employee statements MW3 was basically made by IW since SH had to run literally everything by them so this is basically mostly IWs fault anyway. I’m just hopeful for next year because treyarch is making it and they will have had a 4 year timeframe, and the zombies is made by treyarch exclusively since CWZ was originally built by SH and finished by treyarch. I’m also hoping that Microsoft sees the BS launch of MW3 and steps in to tame activision a bit by the time B06/Gulf War/2024 comes out.
@trc3154
@trc3154 24 күн бұрын
I know everyone has an opinion. My opinion; -arcade is more “creative” (difficult to please all niches) -realistic is more safe (easier to appease expectations)
@SoNoizzE
@SoNoizzE 5 ай бұрын
I’ve played Waw-Bo4 zombies and outbreak is actually pretty fun. It feels like somewhat glorified custom maps from waw/bo3
@ghostzombies3252
@ghostzombies3252 Ай бұрын
am i crazy? why he kinda sound like cosmonaut variety hour?
@sonictheblueknigth
@sonictheblueknigth 7 ай бұрын
BOCW is wayyyyy better than BO3
@alex32356_
@alex32356_ 6 ай бұрын
Totally with campaign and multiplayer but zombies in bo3 has so much custom content and SOE is great that I'd consider that part better lol (although I do like CW zombies!!)
@spicycrusader
@spicycrusader 6 ай бұрын
I mean I watched The Act Man's full synopsis of the MW2 2022 campaign sooo
@maazabbasi9174
@maazabbasi9174 3 ай бұрын
That was a good video
@HyperGriffin
@HyperGriffin 8 ай бұрын
REAL
@zayneharring9570
@zayneharring9570 Ай бұрын
I've been saying Treyarch was the superior developer for years. It's great to see people waking up. They forget who made Infinite Warfare and Ghosts. How are you gonna say Infininity Ward is better while Treyarch consistently releases fun games with some of the best campaigns, the best side mode on top of their multiplayer? Black ops 1, 2, and CW were amazing campaigns. Best in the series IMO, especially BO2, with the best villain in the franchise. Raúl Menéndez (RIP Kamar de los Reyes) is by far the best written villain. One you can understand and empathize with to a degree. Not a black and white "we're the good guys and they're the bad guys" but instead a grey area which make for the best villains IMO. The zombies mode alone is a game seller, which should tell you something. No other side mode could hope to achieve the influence and love treyarch zombies gets. The other developers just can't pull it off like treyarch. People just look at the first 3 MW games, and that's all. They say it's the best ever. They don't look at every single release after the original series. It becomes real clear when you really look at who is better. It's pretty clear that treyarch puts real effort and love into their games as well, which shows in their games.
@maazabbasi9174
@maazabbasi9174 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the variety in gameplay in MWII 2022's Campaign. Story was weak but the character's had some good dialogue, personalities, and funny moments, they really killed it with the voice acting.
@CoolManCoolMan123
@CoolManCoolMan123 2 ай бұрын
I mean, they had the best lethal in COD in my opinion(drill charge)
@dargus_
@dargus_ 2 ай бұрын
This video was some real shit
@pohlman1
@pohlman1 8 ай бұрын
MW3 is actually really good, and I think Sledgehammer more than redeemed their self for Vanguard. Its a basically a $70 DLC in terms of graphics and engine but it plays so much different and better than MW2 and vanguard.
@Massivebloop
@Massivebloop 5 ай бұрын
Everything plays better than mwII
@CoolManCoolMan123
@CoolManCoolMan123 2 ай бұрын
I mean, this game's gonna go down as another COD WW2 where we look back at how good we had and that the devs actually listened to the community feedback and improved the game with a really unique perk system.
@TDB0275
@TDB0275 Ай бұрын
How many times did I hear the word arcade! The fact that the community wants an arcade like shooter is the very fact why the gaming industry has been so bad. As software and hardware technology evolves, you would think people would want somewhat of a realistic gaming experience while paying a good amount of money for games/consoles and PCs. Hey, but who am I to judge, I'm just an old fart who's been playing these "arcade" like games for years waiting for that realistic gaming experience to at some point take hold.
@IFFB714
@IFFB714 Ай бұрын
My hate, for infinity ward is internal.
@lonewolf-0459
@lonewolf-0459 6 ай бұрын
I'd wager that BO4 was worse than cold war. No campaign, didn't touch the multiplayer beyond private matches with bots so I won't rate it's multiplayer, zombies had 2 story lines and decided to focus on the wrong one in my opinion focusing on the chaos story with characters we don't know and don't care about, while with the Aether storyline it was more or less sidelined, didn't get fully animated cutsceens and this was the end of the 10 years we had these characters. Even when I've gone back and played bo4 zombies while I've had fun it was nowhere near as much fun as I've had with cold war.
@pwrsocket
@pwrsocket 6 ай бұрын
peircing laser
@luisrosado7050
@luisrosado7050 2 ай бұрын
10:10 oh dont be so overdramatic! outbreak was a fun fresh side-mode!
@CrossOfBayonne
@CrossOfBayonne 8 ай бұрын
If Infinity Ward created COD Treyarch perfected it
@AmaAndZing
@AmaAndZing 6 ай бұрын
iw perfected cod by mw/mw2 way b4 treyarch ever did lmaoo. yall fanboys are something else. bo2 still the goat
@luisrosado7050
@luisrosado7050 2 ай бұрын
13:34 my arguement is that black ops 4 should have been a Free2Play. its a bad game (in my opinion) because most of its content is online and it has microtransactions in a PAID title.
@HELMBREAKER47
@HELMBREAKER47 15 күн бұрын
That’s cuz they were tryna keep up with BO franchise coming up with new shit and zombies. That’s why they rebooted. They won’t admit it but it’s evident that they didn’t have a lot of new fresh ideas but to reboot it. 😂 Treyarch is what brought Battle Royale into the game when they came out with BO4. Then Infinity Ward came up with Warzone. They just tryna keep up but can’t like DC was with Marvel.
@KyrieKirigiri
@KyrieKirigiri 3 ай бұрын
I think the reason why Treyarch always put out good games and always try to innovate is that they are an actual game developer. Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer are both studios that were made to make Call of Duty and have only ever made Call of Duty. Treyarch has a long history and have made a variety of different games such as a lot of Spider-Man games around the PS2 era. Whilst most of the people who worked on the pre-COD Treyarch games are probably long gone, it still demonstrates how Call of Duty needs Treyarch more than Treyarch needs COD - they could go off and make new games if they wanted to (If Activision allowed it) - Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer are all COD - if the series dies, they die. The same thing that applys to Treyarch also applies to Raven too - Raven were meant to make Cold War alongside Sledgehammer until the latter messed everything up and got booted from the project (it's why Mason and Woods are poorly slapped into the Campaign, because the campaign was made by Raven and wasn't meant to have anything to do with Black Ops)
@CoolManCoolMan123
@CoolManCoolMan123 2 ай бұрын
I mean, OG IW has moved away after MW2 to establish Respawn Entertainment which had become EA's cashcow for a while with Titanfall series and Apex Legends. Some of those guys even returned for the reboot before well, MWII happened.
@ianfromtheinternet7636
@ianfromtheinternet7636 6 ай бұрын
skill based matchmaking has not been changed since the release of MW3(original)... Source: THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE CODE FOR SBMM
@RaydricMorales-vr3ix
@RaydricMorales-vr3ix 3 ай бұрын
Treyarch insults and abuse me.
@xshadowscreamx
@xshadowscreamx 8 ай бұрын
Iw did try something new in mw2… timed release perks. Ahahahahahahaha
@hunterbooth8578
@hunterbooth8578 6 ай бұрын
I’m an actual Zombies connoisseur. I thoroughly enjoyed Outbreak. Idk who all said that they didn’t like it but everybody I know enjoyed it. It was a refreshing new thing at the time and I also enjoy MWZ. The easter eggs and boss fights in Outbreak were awesome. If you didn’t like it, you probably have a skill issue
@dillydraws
@dillydraws 4 ай бұрын
Outbreak works along side round base maps not as a replacement
@CoolManCoolMan123
@CoolManCoolMan123 2 ай бұрын
​@@dillydrawsyes. That's the thing that those making MWZ didn't understand. It also released during the time when BOCWZ had become stale and since every map feels exactly the same to one another, it was a nice change of pace for casual aswell as hardcore
@amnesticwaves1776
@amnesticwaves1776 8 ай бұрын
@alexandergorman3037
@alexandergorman3037 6 ай бұрын
It's because treyarch actually listens to us fans
@AmaAndZing
@AmaAndZing 6 ай бұрын
LMAOO
@dillydraws
@dillydraws 4 ай бұрын
How can you say Adler's name wrong when it's said all the time. Pfft.
@BigCitrus
@BigCitrus 4 ай бұрын
I’m SCHTEWPID
@bigdraco151
@bigdraco151 5 ай бұрын
mw2 is fun asf 3is to nothing in this video makes sense to me
@fenton038
@fenton038 8 ай бұрын
Treyarch zombies :)
@PsYDaniel
@PsYDaniel 6 ай бұрын
Oh please, MW2019 was amazing, made by IW when treyarch made dogshit for years.
@alpha6617
@alpha6617 7 ай бұрын
You keep saying infinity ward you’re completely wrong. This is purely sledgehammers failure infinity ward never has disappointed me, personally I think they made up from their failure with infinite warfare in their Next project is going to be big.
@usadroopymeat1099
@usadroopymeat1099 7 ай бұрын
All of them are hated especially publishers because my love and respect ended because of bo2s false marketing and advertising
@it2spooky4me79
@it2spooky4me79 6 ай бұрын
What false marketing?
@usadroopymeat1099
@usadroopymeat1099 6 ай бұрын
@@it2spooky4me79 have you seen it all in the cod franchise the marketing and advertising in most of the cod titles are misleading and false and it’s a eye sore to watch
@it2spooky4me79
@it2spooky4me79 6 ай бұрын
@@usadroopymeat1099 what false marketing in BO2 though? I don't understand what you're talking about
@usadroopymeat1099
@usadroopymeat1099 6 ай бұрын
@@it2spooky4me79 here’s the story back then in 2012 they marketed one of the levels with fake gameplay along with fake pictures to make people believe that there is a celebrity who is going to be in the game but instead the celebrities character got killed off before the E3 demo level and you must entire level with police officers FBI agents SWAT team members and pilots that nobody cared about and to add more salt to the wound he doesn’t have his own ending was dead weight for the rest of the game and everything that was given to the character was all for nothing because they lied about who the character was supposed to be and they used him as a disposable tool to sell their game
@it2spooky4me79
@it2spooky4me79 6 ай бұрын
@@usadroopymeat1099 imma be honest, never heard of that.
@null-hi6dt
@null-hi6dt 2 ай бұрын
BO4 nearly caused their downfall, it was so ass.
@demonshadow6750
@demonshadow6750 Ай бұрын
This video is delusion
@londonwatson7342
@londonwatson7342 2 ай бұрын
Black ops 3 imo is the worst black ops ever made. Jetpack cod has never been my thing, and the campaign was ass. In spite of that, it was still better than anything IW and SH out out. Modern Warfare 2011 was the last good IW game.
@RickGrimes-xz8sk
@RickGrimes-xz8sk 2 ай бұрын
The zombies was amazing you can’t say otherwise. But for the multiplayer it really does just depend on if you like jet packs or don’t like them
@irondragondxd3836
@irondragondxd3836 6 ай бұрын
Treyarch has definitely made my shit list post black ops 3. Seeing how they milked zombies dry rather than creating an ending made my blood boil. At least Infinity ward could be bothered to wrap up their stories.
@crazymarkiplierfan
@crazymarkiplierfan 4 ай бұрын
You realize they don't get to make the decisions anymore right? Activision sees zombies and everything Treyarch does by extension, as a cash cow. That's why they pull them off of projects and give them insane deadlines which make it impossible to give the product they wanted to. They want Trearch to have a part in everything because they know the community loves them but by doing that it doesn't allow them to focus on one thing at a time, so you get this scattered, watered down feel.
@irondragondxd3836
@irondragondxd3836 4 ай бұрын
@@crazymarkiplierfan I would make the argument that Treyarch probably never DID have the kind of freedom you are suggesting they did. Even back in the old days games like BO1 and MW3 were multi million dollar productions. I would be astounded if activision was any less hawkish than it is today. If you take a look at a lot of the older COD games you will find that they're a lot more sloppily made then you'd think. The difference is they managed to still string it together back then.
@codywarhawk7099
@codywarhawk7099 4 ай бұрын
In my own view, Infinity Ward made the better Call of Duty games over the last 15 years. They made their games more realistic, they would catch glitches and bugs way more before they published their games, and they put actual thought into the product they made. Infinity Ward is a big reason why CoD got such a good reputation. Treyarch appeared on the scene and their track record has been absolutely awful. They make bad storylines, their games aren't nearly as realistic and are all fast-paced action and spray and pray gameplay that gwts old quick, and they make a product that is full of glitches, bugs, and problems and have to release at least two dozen patches to fix their clusterfuck of a product. Which even then, some of their patches break other things. Every time I see a CoD game made by Treyarch, I have to wonder what they fucked up on the most recent game, because it's always something that ruins the fun or makes me regret getting the game. New CoD games cost $60. If I'm paying that much, I expect a high quality product that I shouldn't have to get frustrated over because there are glaring issues with the game that Treyarch didn't give enough of a fuck to address and fix.
@EdgyMemeMaker
@EdgyMemeMaker 4 ай бұрын
Me who got Bo1, bo2, bo3, bo4, cold war, ww2, mw2 remastered, infinity warfare, ghosts, advanced warfare, modern warfare 2019. I have no temptation to buy Mw2 2022, Mw3 2023, Gulf War 2024, vanguard.
@maazabbasi9174
@maazabbasi9174 3 ай бұрын
The campaign of MWII 2022 is fun to play through at least, if you're into gameplay.
@EdgyMemeMaker
@EdgyMemeMaker 3 ай бұрын
@@maazabbasi9174 nah I'm into the hell cycle of get some kills and die, or lose a game of zombies and start up a new one
@maazabbasi9174
@maazabbasi9174 3 ай бұрын
@@EdgyMemeMaker Aww, c'mon! You don't like the campaigns? They're iconic!
@EdgyMemeMaker
@EdgyMemeMaker 3 ай бұрын
@@maazabbasi9174 Last time I played campaign, was WW2 💀. But I gotta admit that one was pretty good
@maazabbasi9174
@maazabbasi9174 3 ай бұрын
@@EdgyMemeMaker There are better ones, but ight
@AmaAndZing
@AmaAndZing 6 ай бұрын
treyarch hasnt been loved since bo3 lmaoo aside from the pathetic fanboys. theyve been making trash just like IW lmaoo. lets see what they give us next year
@irondragondxd3836
@irondragondxd3836 6 ай бұрын
You’re spitting straight up facts. Even in the older CoD though the one thing Treyarch did better was zombies. Wasn’t a fan of how they handled everything else.
@Jacket01
@Jacket01 3 ай бұрын
Be honest Cold War is still the best COD in like 6 years.
@ghosttornado
@ghosttornado 8 ай бұрын
So Fortnite better?
@davidhanra
@davidhanra 5 ай бұрын
Man no one was talking about Fortnite. Are you du du du dumb?!
@shnackson
@shnackson 4 ай бұрын
Treyarch hasn't made a good CoD since 2015
@Mason048
@Mason048 2 ай бұрын
cold war is not that bad
@ZeroTwo--
@ZeroTwo-- 8 ай бұрын
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