How Trump Could End Democracy - A Step-By-Step Explanation

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An excerpt from episode #350 of the Making Sense podcast.
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@luchogallardoleon 5 ай бұрын

Thats what we are doing here in Perú. Welcome to the banana republics club.

@sunnyinvladivostok 5 ай бұрын

My wife is Peruvian. A couple years ago she had the civic duty of working the polls of a local election. Shortly after arriving and before the start of voting, the mafia entered, and politely informed her that she should take the day off. Yeah, she left.

@SkyGlitchGalaxy 4 ай бұрын

@@sunnyinvladivostok Lol

@shoddyworkmanship4934 5 ай бұрын

What I never get is how so many people can support wrongdoing as long as its done by "their side".

@altratronic 5 ай бұрын

The Trump supporters I know simply refuse to believe that he's done anything wrong, and that accusations against him are part of a political "witch hunt."

@NikoBased 5 ай бұрын

Everything Trump is guilty of , Joe Biden and the Democrats are also guilty of. Whether it's compulsive lying, corruption, taking classified documents home, denying election results etc. What i never get is how so many people only see the wrongdoing on the side that isn't theirs.

@sjoerd1239 5 ай бұрын

They think that there is something for them to gain. The system is not delivering for them, and they would rather break the system, rational or not. Critical mass. Once a certain level of polarisation is achieved the voices of moderation are drowned out. Safety in numbers, rational or not. Us versus Them. In particular, as a generalisation, people are happy to see the law applied to others but not members of their own family. The person who acts according to a principle of equity always pays for those who cheat. Good and bad do not balance out, even when making things as fair as possible.

@alsam4678 4 ай бұрын

Nationalism 101

@MonkeyDLuffy-cm4fm 4 ай бұрын

I know right? it's insane how Sam Harris said "if Hunter biden had dead bodies of children in his basement i will still vote for biden" He also was ok with suppressing the hunter biden laptop.

@EvolvedBonobo 5 ай бұрын

At least Trump is very open about who he is and what he wants to do. The record is very clear from looking at his past presidency and all the stuff he says in public. If people still choose to vote him into office then it can be argued, on some level, that the people agreed, democratically, to potentially end democracy.

@davorrudovic9580 3 ай бұрын

That's the truth. There is core Trump supporter that thinks that democracy has destroyed an idea of America they have in their minds. And the way to save it is to have someone like Orban at the top, who'll defend white christian culture, stop immigration, halt what they consider LGBT propaganda, third wave feminism - that's much important to them than marginally improving unemployment or infrastructure. For them this is the fight for the soul of the country. And people like Orban or Putin don't have executive restrictions that US presidents have. And if those restrictions need to be lifted so that Trump can do what needs to be done so be it.

@jhitchcock5503 5 ай бұрын

I'm so tired of cowards

@Thisisahandle701 5 ай бұрын

That's why Mike Pence has my respect. When it mattered, he was one of the few with a backbone.

@jhitchcock5503 5 ай бұрын

@@Thisisahandle701 the guy who won't even be alone in an open room with a woman having a meeting unless he has his woman he calls Mommy to keep an eye on him? That guy?

@Thisisahandle701 5 ай бұрын

@jhitchcock5503 yeah, because in terms of nationally relevant consequences, the weird idiosyncrasies of Pence around women ranks lower than him being willing to actively hurt his immediate political career and face the vitriol of his former allies in order to stand for his principles and tell the truth when it would have been easy not to.

@Spractral 3 ай бұрын

@@Thisisahandle701why didn't he respond to you? I wonder 🤔....

@Imitatechrist 3 ай бұрын

@@Thisisahandle701 I also respect Mike Pence. A man of integrity and moral. 🫶✝️

@robertschlesinger1342 5 ай бұрын

A British writer penned one of the best descriptions of Donald Trump. It read: “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump? A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: • Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. • You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.” ---Nate White.

@cthoadmin7458 5 ай бұрын

Trump is liked by so many precisely BECAUSE he is like that. He's a proxy, an "in your face protest", against a system, a political order many feel has betrayed them. Trump is a congenital liar, but he's honest about the kind of thing he's going to do once in power: "Dictator for a 'day' ", pardoning criminals, taking revenge against those who opposed him, purging the civil service and military of the "disloyal". If America elects this monster, they won't recognise their country.

@alibabaschultz352 4 ай бұрын

Well said. I suppose what i would tell the Brits is this: America has a big education problem, and the most undereducated are the ones that like Trump the most. And, Americans generally on both sides, hate our government so much, they literally wish to take a wrecking ball to the whole thing. Obviously this is short sighted view of the world, hence why I pointed to the lack of education.

@deeznutz8320 4 ай бұрын

Ah nice i love opinions from people who ignored foreign migrants raping white British girls in the thousands for diversity And the UK should just shut up its a joke and failing

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

Gee, I would hate to see the FBI and Department of Justice politicized.

@troy3456789 5 ай бұрын

As if they have not been already.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@@troy3456789 Why that's just a crazy conspiracy theory. You're crazy.

@thenoobassassin 5 ай бұрын

Gee, that would be something if partisan actors pulled strings with the the FBI and FISA courts and lied multiple times in affidavits to obtain warrants to target political opponents using a phony dossier crafted by the opposition party.

@clayparatore 4 ай бұрын

Right?? The system is working as it should.

@krebgurfson5732 4 ай бұрын

hahahaha

@jackboot8432 5 ай бұрын

To paraphrase Stalin: How many armoured divisions has the Supreme Court?

@peristiloperis7789 4 ай бұрын

Here in Brazil former president Bolsonaro once said something very similar to that.

@ImScarey21 5 ай бұрын

Can any Trumpers make a SUBSTANTIVE argument in rebuttal that doesn't rely on Biden whataboutism or calling out "TDS"? The hour-long phone call between Trump and GA election officials is really worth a listen. I find it baffling that so many are blind to his thinly-veiled con. We can do so much better.

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

No, they can’t. They spent their money on the sneakers and Trump NFT’s instead of an education

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

Any dangers posed by Trump are dwarved by the dangers posed by blocking him from office. Bankrupting, jailing and removing from the ballot one's political opposition is 10x worse than any of the fever dreams presented in this clip.

@jackgoff6215 5 ай бұрын

some of them arent even blind to it. they know they election wasnt stolen. they actually dont respect our system

@theforcedmeme 5 ай бұрын

oh i know he's a con and I dont care. The only thing that matters is that the progs lose

@theycallmedip 5 ай бұрын

@@theforcedmemenice......

@DanSk451 5 ай бұрын

The problem is, “We love the uneducated”. That encompasses more than half of Americans.

@theforcedmeme 5 ай бұрын

Uneducated by what standard?

@fairlanemuscle 5 ай бұрын

*educated people supported socialism, eugenics, etc.

@DanSk451 5 ай бұрын

@@theforcedmeme By trump standards. He needs their money.

@DanSk451 5 ай бұрын

@@fairlanemuscle And the uneducated send him money then complain about the economy.

@jonathanbenavidez201 5 ай бұрын

@@DanSk451you can’t both be this condescending while making points that stupid, man.

@Zhamp0 5 ай бұрын

this comment section is frightening. barely any discussions, every second comment uses a buzzword or whataboutism and people pretending january 6. wasnt a thing. we all have to seperate good from bad information in this day and age and yet there are still so many absolutists. why is this so hard for people to figure out?

@PhenomenalWorld 5 ай бұрын

Well said.

@fairlanemuscle 5 ай бұрын

From 10,000 feet, J6 was indeed bad. But as we discover more things about it, its turning out to be rotten to the core. I find it ironic, the left hoots and hollers about J6, but when you point out Biden has targeted Americans with drone strikes, and the left is mum....that tells me everything I need to know.

@TheThigh 5 ай бұрын

Ironic, given that your comment hinges on a buzz word. You should watch what J6 actually looked like within the building - it looked like a tour. Meanwhile, the summer prior, the country burned in the largest simultaneous riot in the history of the country to the chorus of crickets in the media and from the government response. Yet when the federal government is the target of discontent its made into a tragedy compared in the media to September 11th 2001 (yes this really happened). J6 is just a talking point - just a buzz word. Something to let you know the federal government owns you and you can nothing about it.

@Zhamp0 5 ай бұрын

@@kinetic-cyberneticyeah i should keep that in mind

@bobf5360 5 ай бұрын

@@Zhamp0 yeah. Its also the case that the entire MAGA tribe IS now Putin's Puppets, because their Orange Jesus is one. They repeat his talking points just like good little soldiers. Scary times.

@scotchbarrel4429 5 ай бұрын

I wonder if Tom Bilyeu can understand this explanation, or maybe a sharpie and some crayons might help 😂

@TrunksG-or4s 5 ай бұрын

Must mention other people

@79dmcjr 5 ай бұрын

He chooses not to understand. It's not that he can't

@d4mdcykey 5 ай бұрын

LOL, very valid point, that dude has gone off the cliff.

@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT 5 ай бұрын

Money. It’s all about the Benjamins. 💰

@devalapar7878 5 ай бұрын

Obviously when people stop following court orders (the president included), we lose our rule of law. I still don't understand how 80% of Republicans and most Conservatives can support Trump.

@abstractnonsense3253 4 ай бұрын

Because most of what you think you know is fake. It really is that simple. The media has been lying relentlessly about most subjects of importance. We don't so much disagree on moral values as we disagree on what is real and what isn't.

@pazirandeh 5 ай бұрын

All sounds believable to me. I just wonder then why Democrats appear to be doing everything they can to make sure he is reelected.

@proprgent 5 ай бұрын

Would you recommend what the Democrats could do?

@CountBrass 5 ай бұрын

@@proprgent Be a lot more aggressive and a lot more unified.

@markstone2153 5 ай бұрын

Drop the woke stuff, it's killing the left and getting guys like Trump elected worldwide @@proprgent

@vulkanofnocturne 5 ай бұрын

@@proprgent too late for what I'd like to see; remove super delegates, allow non establishment nominees.

@FinalEyes777 5 ай бұрын

Bullshit. Republicans are making it appear as if it's Democrats fault. It isn't. It's 100% a republican/Russian issue so get your eye on the true enemy and stop blaming your allies. Our political system was altered so that financial interests anywhere in the world could manipulate our politics and as the owner of fox said said "Its not about red or blue, its green". This then opened up the door for foreign entities to start playing games with our entire system and thats precisely what we see.

@nasausaf2 5 ай бұрын

How do you explain the fact that he was already president for 4 years and didn't do any of those things?

@fairlanemuscle 5 ай бұрын

Well, Trump derangement syndrome comes to mind....

@brucegregson621 5 ай бұрын

We're not doing that now

@authenticallysuperficial9874 5 ай бұрын

@brucegregson621 By "we're not doing that" you mean "we're not offering facts, arguments, or reason, only bold-faced assertion"?

@zombieinjeans 5 ай бұрын

A few reasons, but the most important is that he had a lot of people in his ear telling him “you absolutely cannot do this.” The team he has now and the people who will be surrounding him in terms 2 will only be saying “you absolutely have to do this and you are completely within your rights to do so.” The fact is, there actually were adults in the room for most of Trump’s first term. His team and the people that surround him now are specifically organizing things so that won’t be the case if he wins again. Their motivations actually seem to be way more radical than Trump’s personal motivations are, but that really makes no difference.

@sudazima 5 ай бұрын

"How do you explain the fact that Vladimir Putin was already president for 4 years and didn't do any of those things?" he asked in 2004

@juancarlosbarriga3799 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the guide! ❤

@vivapatriot 4 ай бұрын

The reality is things are primed to unravel whether Trump plays a role or not. As if the current politicians and status quo ISN'T a clear and present danger to democracy??

@davorrudovic9580 3 ай бұрын

That is incredibly dumb generalization

@F--B 5 ай бұрын

The world's worst case of TDS.

@PoochieCollins 2 ай бұрын

Yes, still supporting Trump after all the awful things he's done is truly deranged.

@F--B 2 ай бұрын

@PoochieCollins yes, Trump is the first and only corrupt politician.

@TheAsherPress 5 ай бұрын

I remember when democracy ended in 2016. Meanwhile the US President is seeking to imprison and seize the properties of his opposition opponent.

@DanSk451 5 ай бұрын

Except that’s nonsense.

@Norundithus 5 ай бұрын

Bro WHAT lol that cannot be your perception of things. Trump landed himself in trouble with the law for Jan 6, tax fraud, 2nd slate of electoral college voters, etc. Stop with this nonsense. The man needs to go away. He's trash

@brian782 5 ай бұрын

100% true

@fairlanemuscle 5 ай бұрын

@@DanSk451 oh. Now justify Biden drone striking American citizens.

@paulvr3158 5 ай бұрын

I think you are more Jordan Peterson than Sam Harris. did you understand anything, or did you just start trolling right away?

@Brutally-Honest 5 ай бұрын

Sam: YOU ARE ONE AWESOME FELLOW ! Thank you for your shares, we appreciate them.

@stephenreed9631 5 ай бұрын

This is the MAGA dream scenario. I think this is absolutely what they want to happen and using their vote to help make it happen.

@theforcedmeme 5 ай бұрын

So let's say that happens. Are you prepared to pick up arms and stop it?

@dayman8187 5 ай бұрын

@@theforcedmemeI bet you think you would

@teacopem 5 ай бұрын

Make America great again dream scenario is to make America great again, nothing wrong with that

@teacopem 5 ай бұрын

@theforcedmemefilthypapist2892 why would u try and stop ppl from making this country great? Are u not American? Then you are my enemy, if you actively don't want my country to be great again

@troy3456789 5 ай бұрын

@@teacopem The current clown show in office has hit rock bottom and yet continues to dig.

@jjreddick377 5 ай бұрын

Wow, Sam! The comments suggest you triggered the Maga cultists. Keep up the good work 🙏🙏

@theforcedmeme 5 ай бұрын

Oh no, the corrupt leviathan that jokingly passes as democracy could be dismantled. The utter horror and insanity of it all!

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

Negative comments = good video? Like the way Michael Jackson used "Bad?"

@jjreddick377 5 ай бұрын

@@tcorourke2007 triggering the braindead is a sign of life

@troy3456789 5 ай бұрын

Progressives in 2016: Our election was compromised Progressives in 2020: It's impossible for US elections to be compromised

@jjreddick377 5 ай бұрын

@@troy3456789 Republicans 2016 : it’s all rigged Republican 2016 : Trump won fair and square Republicans 2020: election was stolen 2024: Trump is definitely going to win.

@SacClass650 5 ай бұрын

Wasn't this meant to happen last time?

@jjreddick377 5 ай бұрын

Well, he did attempt a coup. Don't want him to try again.

@7JeTeL7 5 ай бұрын

it did (luckily too late); "A Schedule F appointment was a job classification in the excepted service of the United States federal civil service that existed briefly at the end of the Trump administration during 2020-2021. It would have contained policy-related positions, removing their civil service protections and making them easy to fire. It was never fully implemented, and no one was appointed to it before it was repealed at the beginning of the Biden administration. The purpose of the provision was to increase the President's control over the federal career civil service. While proponents stated this would increase flexibility and accountability, it was widely criticized as providing means to retaliate against federal officials for political reasons. It was estimated that tens or hundreds of thousands of career employees could have lost their civil service protections, increasing the number of political appointments by a factor of ten."

@jjreddick377 5 ай бұрын

Yes, he attempted a coup . Not good to let him try again

@poxpower 5 ай бұрын

@@7JeTeL7 How is this "anti-democratic" when an elected official now has more power to remove un-elected bureaucrats? It literally is increasing democracy, which people like Sam supposedly care about ( but obviously don't, nor does anyone really ).

@freshmojito Ай бұрын

This time they're ready, see Project 2025.

@DaviSPinheiro 5 ай бұрын

Forcing people to vote for a senile person doesn't help at all. "Look, he will end democracy, please vote for this sick person"

@angusgus123 5 ай бұрын

This comment - on a crystal clear explanation of how America becomes a fascist state.... Jesus wept

@SolarPlayer 4 ай бұрын

Trump is literally Hitler, therefore having a senile person as our fake president makes perfect sense

@deeznutz8320 4 ай бұрын

@@angusgus123LMAO😂😂

@endoalley680 5 ай бұрын

TDS 2.0 - If Trump is elected president in 2024, and none of this happens, will there be an apology?

@SolarPlayer 4 ай бұрын

"Actually this is pretty much in line with my predictions"

@endoalley680 4 ай бұрын

I am not a Trump fan. But some of these accusations seem far fetched.

@sammig.8286 13 күн бұрын

Probably not. Did they apologize for saying that Russia rigged the elections to make Trump win? I don't remember that they did.

@L.I.T.H.I.U.M 5 ай бұрын

Damn, that's what exactly happened in India under Modi.

@Pasdpawn 5 ай бұрын

Like how exactly? Are we indians living under a rock to not have noticed it for almost a decade? Are the indians foolish enough to grant modi highest approval rating for a third consecutive time? Am i too susceptible to fascism that i didnt see it coming despite having lived under modis gujarat for three terms and now modis india for a most probable third term? Are we indians stupid? Are you racist for calling us stupid? I have a lot of questions bro. But mudi must rejin

@jeddyimposter 4 ай бұрын

I've been following Sam Harris for a decade, subscribe to his podcast, subscribe to his meditation app, and think he is one of the most intelligent, articulate, sensible thinkers of the day. Also, I despise Trump and would never vote for him. That said, this whole End-of Democracy shtick is ridiculous garbage. It's Sam Harris version of "just asking questions". It's Sam Harris doing his version of Alex Jones. That he allows his guest to say it's possible that there will be no elections in 2028 without any supporting evidence, and with no pushback, just leaves me shaking my head. There have been one or two times (see: Triggernometry/Hunter laptop) where I have become aware that Sam has glaring blind spots amidst an otherwise brilliant intelligence. I'm just profoundly disappointed with the level of his derangement and lack of critical thinking on this subject.

@siuabc 4 ай бұрын

I really home you are right.

@blitzmotorscooters1635 4 ай бұрын

glad youre starting to notice the delusional banana stuff. Might want to look deeper still bro... just saying

@adrenalinerush3819 5 ай бұрын

Listening to you for years, Sam. Big fan. I'm not a MAGA, Trump guy, at all. Just a casual follower of politics and current events with a deep interest in philosophy and ethics. Do you ever play devil's advocate with your political stance on Trump?

@leahcimolrac1477 4 ай бұрын

He did once say something about getting it prior to the 2020 election. Paraphrasing here, but said he understood how voters were put off by the other side that calls them racist, brow beats them, thinks they’re deplorable, etc… He didn’t say it was enough to vote for Trump, simply that he finally comprehended it. I don’t blame people for hating Trump. He is an a-hole and I think the country would definitely be better off if Hillary had won back in 2016. However, at this point in time I cannot vote for the Party that thinks millions of intruders coming over the border a year is great and anyone who doesn’t like it is evil. The Party who pretends white supremacy is the number one issue facing America. The Party that focuses on utter nonsense while 100 major cities across the U.S. are sinking into decay. I doubt Trump will be able to do anything palpable about it, but I’m not voting for the Democrats if they’re going to play make-believe with what issues are truly affecting taxpayers in our day-to-day existence.

@deeznutz8320 4 ай бұрын

He is Jewish doesn't matter left right etc they all want a pro Jew Muppet at the helm

@dirkhamilton2709 5 ай бұрын

You mean he might weaponize the FBI, IRS, and state prosecutors? Noooooooo! Tell me more.

@wattlebough 5 ай бұрын

Isn’t he facing charge after charge and continual obstruction in the courts? That whole Colorado de-registration thing by the state attorney general that was overturned as unconstitutional by the SCOTUS in the last month?

@godividarr 5 ай бұрын

@@wattleboughOne bullshit allegation at a time, he's defeating the witch hunt against him. I'm not a fan of the guy, never have been, but looking at what's going on I can't help but be irritated. If it were anyone else, I'd be just as irritated.

@godividarr 5 ай бұрын

@@M.Linoge I believe anyone is innocent until proven guilty, and a disproportionately large amount of effort and focus is being pumped into the cases against him. Cases which are being marshalled by people who openly say they're out to get him. Cases that are gradually but steadily crumbling due to their lack of merits, and despite the efforts of those litigating them to rush the process. I don't pay attention to Hillary. Never have. Even back when Trump was giving her and Bill campaign donations.

@Amenti_H 5 ай бұрын

_You say it like we have a democracy..._ 🙄

@alibabaschultz352 5 ай бұрын

So you're fine with a dictator, as long as its YOUR dictator.

@Amenti_H 4 ай бұрын

@@alibabaschultz352 So you are blue maga. I, for one, hate them both.

@Amenti_H 4 ай бұрын

So you are bluе mаgа.

@Amenti_H 4 ай бұрын

And Sam Harris uses auto-censorship of comments... 🙄

@sameagletheregal8526 3 ай бұрын

Biden is a dictator already, ingonoring congress, the polls, and the Supreme court on the student loan and border issues. Hes also corrupt.@alibabaschultz352

@user-el7pp7kk7w 4 ай бұрын

That happened to the Philippines under Duterte. He kicked the Supreme Cout Chief and closed the biggest news network there. To tet government employees of loyalty to him, the government worker should agree and praisehim and post it to social media.

@mbalcarek 5 ай бұрын

Already half way there. Our systems are failing us as we speak.Like the frog dropped in cool water and gradually cooked as the water heats up.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

And instead of speaking openly about HOW our institutions are failing us, Harris has devoted his entire platform to convincing the public to maintain faith in them regardless.

@Yossarianhoenikker 5 ай бұрын

So you want to jump into the ocean instead of trying to plug the leak in the sinking ship @@tcorourke2007

@alibabaschultz352 5 ай бұрын

@@tcorourke2007 I dont think you understand what you're saying. Nobody is saying you need to blindly trust every expert all the time. You just need to understand that experts do indeed exist. You dont just blindly trust the advice of a random doctor. No, you do research, and get to know a few doctors, then decide which one is most trustworthy. But at the end of the day, you will be getting your medical advice from an accredited doctor, not a random dude on youtube.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@alibabaschultz352 Harris advised us to trust the CDC, which wildy overreacted and got every call wrong. The New York Times specifically told us NOT to "do our own research" and that "now is not the time for critical thinking." Doctors who resisted Covid orthodoxy had their careers destroyed. You have a very poor memory, my friend.

@mentansh5702 5 ай бұрын

Sam: "No, it's for reals this time guys"

@tejasnair3399 5 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? He was right about Trump’s first term too. He eroded the functioning of our democracy . Do you seriously think the country hasn’t deteriorated since the year he took office?

@barrykp 5 ай бұрын

This was both calm and terrifying

@Maxtraxx 5 ай бұрын

And exactly how does that differ from the current administration?

@tinakaminskadickinson3328 5 ай бұрын

Everything. Go away cray cray

@Maxtraxx 5 ай бұрын

@@tinakaminskadickinson3328 Just name three ways, please.

@abstractnonsense3253 4 ай бұрын

It's not much different, really. Biden has already ignored SCOTUS on student debt. Some DAs have basically decriminalised some crimes, by not prosecuting them, making the corresponding cities crime ridden holes. The DOJ and three letter agencies are obviously politicised. The double standards across the board are normalised. Etc.

@vladn6031 4 ай бұрын

@@Maxtraxx She won't.

@theophanystudio2960 5 ай бұрын

Shut up. Democracy is already over here.

@jaysteve4442 5 ай бұрын

The Supreme Court has already done that…& he’s not even in power

@lindontilson471 5 ай бұрын

No they haven't . At all, what you meant to say is, they've done something you don't like 👍

@abstractnonsense3253 4 ай бұрын

Biden has already ignored the SCOTUS on student debt. So... yeah. As usual a lot of the things that frighten democrats are already happening under Biden.

@krebgurfson5732 4 ай бұрын

So trump will become an eternal president by appointing staff to government roles, like every, president, ever.

@0rthogonal 4 ай бұрын

They’re projecting.

@meirm471 4 ай бұрын

Not a Republican or Democrat here. The idea is some roles are for loyalists, some roles are for checks and balances. If you can appoint everyone in the Judiciary system it means you have unlimited power. Again, not saying that Trump is good or bad, just talking about the method of dismantling branch independence... And thus democracy and the rule of law...

@tyreliouszukarious2582 4 ай бұрын

He already has in current Supreme Court. The majority of Supreme Court justices will secure his interest and imagine with another 4 years.

@meirm471 4 ай бұрын

@@tyreliouszukarious2582 , you might be right, since I am not that into US politics I assume your thoughts on this are more valuable...

@vespahandle 5 ай бұрын

Yep. Wake up those who don t vote.

@apokatastasian2831 5 ай бұрын

Sam "if things go the way I imagine they might, then anything is justified in preemptive response" Harris

@H0mertax 5 ай бұрын

Surprised how far I had to scroll before someone pointed it out

@Michael-kp4bd 5 ай бұрын

If things go the way they are currently being megaphoned by the group seeking autocratic power, you mean.

@Jules-Needs-Internet-Installed 5 ай бұрын

I don't wanna abolish term limits, cause I'm not out of my goddam mind.

@TheThigh 5 ай бұрын

And guess who else wouldn’t support the abolishment of term limits? The vast majority of the public. Stop listening to this political fiction.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

BIDEN 2028.

@robd3470 5 ай бұрын

you people are completly gone .. you are completly unravelled cognitivly..

@sshender3773 5 ай бұрын

Finally! My pleas have been answered! I posted the transcription twice under the full version and the other excerpt asking for this.

@Coraxiom Ай бұрын

Why are you freaking out over Trump like he's some kind of out of control animal? We've already been through one of his presidencies, the guy is a pretty standard protectionist.

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

Gotta love the folks who bought the sneakers, the NFT’s, the t-shirt that says “never surrender” while Trump was surrendering, or pieces of his suit, and say that Sam has “TDS”, all the while thinking they’re the reasonable ones. Hate to think how much of their savings went toward that.

@Michael-kp4bd 5 ай бұрын

Our empathy for them is not reciprocated. We still can’t help it, it’s built into us

@sameagletheregal8526 3 ай бұрын

@@Michael-kp4bdempathy is toxic and gross with the progs. Hence all the homelessness and addiction we have now.

@Michael-kp4bd 3 ай бұрын

@@sameagletheregal8526 yeah if we don’t even have thoughts about mental illness and addiction, those people will just stop and buy homes

@sameagletheregal8526 3 ай бұрын

@@Michael-kp4bd where I live, in a hell hole called Seattle, the goal is to normalize drug addiction and homelessness, to just make it part of society. There is no movement to end addiction here, just over feminized toxic progressive empathy. And it's killing people and robbing others of their belongings too.

@TheAsherPress 5 ай бұрын

I used to be a fan of Sam Harris but Trump and Covid broke him. Fortunately while Sam began Making Sense, many of us started Waking Up.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

He has jettisoned truth and enlightenment values in service of his agenda: preservation of the neo-liberal world order.

@Decembersbreath 5 ай бұрын

He started Waking Up before Covid. Wtf.

@TheAsherPress 5 ай бұрын

@@DecembersbreathAnother way to phrase it: Sam stopped waking up before he started Making Sense.

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Ah yes. The totally unexpected hyper formulaic "I used to be a fan ..." comment. You were never a Sam Harris Fan. You were only a fan of hearing views you agree with stated in an eliquent calm collected manner.

@TheAsherPress 5 ай бұрын

@@tricky2014 Not at all. One of my more enlightening moments was when Sam convinced me on the matter of determinism via his book 'the moral landscape.' Trying to read other people's' minds online won't help you.

@merlepatterson 5 ай бұрын

"How Trump Could End Democracy" - Has anyone taken a good look around over the last few years? I mean a "Good Look"? Yeah, I think you know that Trump never did this. Projection much?

@alibabaschultz352 5 ай бұрын

Did what?

@merlepatterson 5 ай бұрын

@@alibabaschultz352 Open borders, DEI, Inflation, Crime Spike, Covid lies, etc. etc. tec.

@michaeld9379 5 ай бұрын

Trump isn’t the greatest. But Sam, do you think maybe your feelings about trump are bordering on obsession? You have so many other skills and so much more relevant knowledge that could help people suffering. Obsessing over trump isn’t the way man.

@NoOne-by7qy 5 ай бұрын

Between Trump and Biden, I'd choose Trump any time of the day. The issue is with the system that compels Americans to choose between Genocidal Joe and Zio Don.

@willchristie2650 5 ай бұрын

So you would pick a guy who has no respect for the Constitution and thinks we should get rid of it. Brilliant logic there guy.

@jmc5335 5 ай бұрын

@@willchristie2650Islamaphobic Sam Harris doesn't have respect for the Constitution

@NoOne-by7qy 5 ай бұрын

@@willchristie2650 No one can take away the constitution. That's why it's called a constitution. Joe ruined America on both domestic and foreign fronts. Trump isn't a savior but he's far less damaging than Joe. It's my opinion, you don't have to abide by it.

@thenoobassassin 5 ай бұрын

@will lol you live on a different planet. You vote for the guy that’s been a corrupt uniparty politician for 40 years with a racist history who showered with his daughter. A guy that try’s to strip his opponent from ballots, works in conjunction with major media companies to silence speech and stands on the corpses of children to take your second amendment away and all you have is your drone MSM talking points. But Trump shits on the constitution… you people are evil

@authenticallysuperficial9874 5 ай бұрын

@@willchristie2650 Every leftist I can think of despises the constitution. They don't believe in rights.

@theowheels66 5 ай бұрын

Sam has lost his mind

@jsnel9185 5 ай бұрын

And you never had one to lose.

@ÁzsiábaSzakadtam 5 ай бұрын

As a Hungarian I tell you that initially we also believed in Orban. Now only the brainwashed follow him. He has built a cult and a system of oligarch billionaires who used to be his classmates back in the day. Big chunks of their wealth belong to Orban hidden in offshore accounts. Anything he does is out of personal interest. The situation will be slightly different in the case of Trump. For him his narcissistic ego is first, money comes after.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@@jsnel9185 Your comment and the fact that anyone at all liked it, demonstrates how badly the quality of Harris' audience has declined.

@saroshkumana7920 4 ай бұрын

3+ years of the Dem-Biden rule is more than enough. We need the opposite of their rule.

@Fractoide 4 ай бұрын

Leaving party politics aside. If you think about that statement for a couple of minutes you might realize how scary that line of thinking can be. This is exactly what populist movements do, it's us vs "them". Obviously "they" are terrible because -insert whatever issue happening at the moment- therefore we are the solution.

@IgorSinitsky 5 ай бұрын

You should broadcast it 24/7 on all media

@batmanforpresident9655 5 ай бұрын

The definition of IRONY: Sam Harris having a show called "Making Sense".

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Th definition of IRONY: @batmanforpresident9655 is a smart successfull human being and a rational thinker.

@Sayheybrother8 5 ай бұрын

I’m fascinated that intelligent people can describe what they’re afraid Trump might do while the current regime is doing just what they’re afraid of and not recognize it.

@philsweeney81 5 ай бұрын

How intellectually dishonest of you. Try looking at facts and listening to what people are saying. It might snap you out of your reality inversion.

@ActionAlligator 5 ай бұрын

we get it, just shut up and go vote for trump again or w/e

@karl7487 5 ай бұрын

Do provide concrete examples.

@ronaldbeamon5564 5 ай бұрын

@@karl7487well...um...a completely open border for anyone to cross for one. A country without borders is not a country.

@icorrectly 5 ай бұрын

The people you're described are not intelligent.

@Groooveee_golf_club_cleaner 5 ай бұрын

I never thought I’d say it but sam really does appear to have TDS

@wegder 5 ай бұрын

My red State is eager to have a President that ignores any Supreme Court ruling that they don't like.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

Lucky for you, that was just wild speculation.

@DUDEBroHey 5 ай бұрын

We've seen Biden do that. Was your state happy about that?

@chadcansler2211 5 ай бұрын

10 out of 10 really fun fan fiction. In the sequel to 2016’s Russia gate, Sam brings us a whole new fun disaster scenario in his latest fictional thriller America gate. That’s right folks when Russia isn’t big enough Sam takes it to the top . In 2024’s America gate; the end of democracy as we know it! This thriller is bound to last 4 years, at least😉

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Most vapid response in this comment section. That's really an achievement given the generel level is lower than the deepest point of the ocean.

@shawnbuonarosa3188 4 ай бұрын

Sam Harris is still crying about Trump? Really?

@blitzmotorscooters1635 4 ай бұрын

yep LOLOL ... still totally TDS while still maintaining totally rational beliefs in other topics. Its the biggest paradox ever

@bobhill4364 3 ай бұрын

@@blitzmotorscooters1635One day you'll realize that he's an emotional basket case that's wrong on just about everything. Especially atheism.

@michaelwetzel3258 5 ай бұрын

Wait, isn't the current Administration ignoring the Supreme Court on forgiving student loan debt?

@abstractnonsense3253 4 ай бұрын

Correct

@Kiros37100 2 ай бұрын

Nope.

@Antuan2911 5 ай бұрын

Scary things... Don't give him ideas...

@blunty6feetunder 4 ай бұрын

I don't even like Trump but this is some next level TDS

@AndyRosebrook 4 ай бұрын

After the 2020 election Trump said he wanted to suspend the Constitution in order to steal the election. Trump formed and unleash the violent mob during the Jan 6 insurrection at the Capital. After being begged by aides and top Republicans to call it off, after being told the Vice President and his family were in mortal peril, Trump tweeted out for the mob to continue fighting. After that message the mob surged further. Trump says he wants to be a dictator on day one. You can look all of this up easily.

@tinawynn8973 4 ай бұрын

Why you say TDS?

@marktyler3381 5 ай бұрын

If i were Sam, I'd never mention Trump again. The TDS is embarrassing.

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

Saying ‘TDS’ is like your drawstring doll response. Don’t know how to say anything else when it comes to hearing criticism of your mango messiah

@TOMinPDX 5 ай бұрын

It's certainly tiresome. Sam is tortured by Trump, it must be an awful existence. I'm no Trump supporter but I don't let him get to me the way that Sam allows him to, it's quite sad really.

@marktyler3381 5 ай бұрын

@@TOMinPDX I certainly cannot accept any life lessons from a man with that level of instability. If that thought lives rent free in your head, kick it out!

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

There are many things Sam ignores about Trump; false arrests, kangaroo courts, $450 million fines to be paid in 30 days before appeal.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@@snakesandsticks And yet you can't address it. Trump is a threat to the establishment and Harris will say absolutely anything he thinks will tarnish him. What he fails to realize is that contrasting his current hysterics and hyperbole against his former unpopular but nuanced takes makes it obvious that he has become unhinged. And utterly dishonest. Ironically, at this point, he is helping Trump.

@jackjurphy5020 5 ай бұрын

Poor poor Sam.

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Poor poor @jackjurphy5020 having terminal stage 4 SDS.

@northeastcorals 5 ай бұрын

Next week Sam pontificates about how Trump "could" in theory open up a black hole at the edge of our solar system & end all life as we know it.

@serarthurdayne9490 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Dumbest response i have seen in a long while. But if one has no actual arguments to defend god emperor Trump, this is what you get instead.

@TheThigh 5 ай бұрын

@@tricky2014 Do you actually think the populace would go along with a president going dictator? This is political slander bordering on fiction. Give yourself a moment and consider the viability of this plan - it’s beyond silly.

@godisbollocks 5 ай бұрын

@TheThigh I don't see why not. Trump is already breathtakingly dishonest and incompetent, and has the die-hard support of millions. This despite cheating on his ex wives, dodging the draft, slandering the military, and paying hush money to porn stars. An undercover operative sent from the DNC to humiliate the GOP into oblivion could hardly have done a better job. The GOP have never been as ridiculous as they are right now

@northeastcorals 5 ай бұрын

@@tricky2014 I didn't try to make an argument & I have no interest in defending Trump.

@SkyGlitchGalaxy 4 ай бұрын

I have a lot of respect for Sam Harris. But this Trump stuff is overdone. Americans are upset with the choices American democracy is providing them. They are not interested is abandoning democracy. They are not interested in Trump running a 3rd term. They are not interested in electing a Donny Trump Jr.

@Goldenhour24 Ай бұрын

Wake up! Project 2025 will lead to the death of democracy and it would start day one if Trump wins. Read about project 2025

@stevem691 5 ай бұрын

Sam and all his recent guests: "denying millions of citizens the right to vote for their preferred candidate is the only way to save democracy"

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Cite any part of a podcast where he or his guest said that. Go ahead, i'm waiting.

@Michael-kp4bd 5 ай бұрын

Consider Colorado’s decision a “legal theory” that failed in the court. 1 for Colorado, 150 for a failed incumbent. When in power, and after wiping out the civil servants who put the constitution before the president, the situation is vastly different. This is no fan fiction, this is outlined by the Trump campaign and current republicans in power, even those who prefer a Republican candidate over Trump. Why enshrine democracy when it results in your party having minority power in roughly 6 year cycles when you can enshrine your party’s power indefinitely? Well, only the reasoning is to maintain democracy - which is in opposition to the first goal. So away it goes. Don’t look at me, look at Republicans in Congress. Their actions continue to show which comes first.

@deeznutz8320 4 ай бұрын

@@tricky2014Hyperbole is too hard of a term for the super smart Harris audience

@tomtom6319 5 ай бұрын

The TDS is really getting bad now.

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

Haha- I bet you voted for George Santos

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Of Trump supporters? Yes.

@BasedGiant88 4 ай бұрын

Next-level TDS 😂

@Politicallyhomeless957 Ай бұрын

Copium, pure copium….terminal TDS is everywhere lol 😆

@4x4r974 5 ай бұрын

TDS

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

Haha- I bet you bought one of the Trump NFT “cards”.

@brucegregson621 5 ай бұрын

Stage 4 TDS

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Stage 5 SDS and its terminal im afraid. @brucegregson621 my condolences.

@brucegregson621 5 ай бұрын

@tricky2014 time to circle the wagons

@jackjurphy5020 5 ай бұрын

Are you just going to completely ignore this itemized list of moves he would theoretically make if he wins is exactly what the left has already done? This is absolute comedy. Projection at its finest

@fairlanemuscle 5 ай бұрын

Harris has TDS.

@r.p.mcmurphy6623 5 ай бұрын

"I love the poorly educated!"

@vvggg12 5 ай бұрын

When people tell you they want to be a dictator, believe them

@jps101574 5 ай бұрын

The left has only done these things in your imagination. BTW ,I m not a leftist and I can say this man speaks the truth.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@@vvggg12But don't believe them when they say "for a day."

@qjsharing2408 5 ай бұрын

Set up a law to sue the appointees if they don't get confirmed

@O4C209 5 ай бұрын

He is unironically (probably unintentionally) describing the last 3 years with Biden.

@paulvr3158 5 ай бұрын

you need to get out more often and drop the koolaid dude.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@@paulvr3158 Or you could address his point. Harris is ignoring threats to our political system that are ACTUALLY occurring today, while speculating about what might happen in the future.

@Joost-qo9im 5 ай бұрын

Lmao, imagine thinking that this senile, demented old man is trying to become a dictator. Biden would never be cunning enough. Trump on the other hand is.

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

And as all the other comments of course this one also doesn't give an example. The trump brainrot really shows its ugly face. All that can be mustered as a response is a shitty low effort "No you!"

@AlexDAmbrose 5 ай бұрын

How can Trump dismantle democracy: Proceeds to list all the things Democrats under Biden are doing or tried to do. The level of self-awareness of these people 🤦‍♂️

@Jimmy-xo3ld 5 ай бұрын

Dems are completely and utterly oblivious to their own hypocrisies. It's truly something to behold.

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

This is like the 20th comment following the same shitty pattern. Is this an astroturfing campaign or are you all just parroting something some figurehead on alternative media said?

@hunchbackaudio 5 ай бұрын

Kurt Gödel explained this already in 1947. Einstein told him to not mention this during his naturalisation exam.

@keenanryan8735 3 ай бұрын

Imagine that, an atheist that hates Trump 😂😂. God truly is the best comedian. Trump is a soldier for truth and good and that is why the world seemingly hates him.

@brian782 5 ай бұрын

Tds supreme

@r.p.mcmurphy6623 5 ай бұрын

"I love the poorly educated!"

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

You’re like a drawstring doll. Pull the string and only one preprogrammed response comes out.

@brian782 5 ай бұрын

@@r.p.mcmurphy6623 I’ve taught Plato for 15 years and am a lawyer. I’m highly educated

@austingoyne3039 5 ай бұрын

@@brian782 and yet Jan 6th means nothing to you

@brian782 5 ай бұрын

@@austingoyne3039 I think is heathy that the 1/6 protestors wanted to ensure that the election was counted fairly. It’s very unhealthy to criminalize caring for careful confirmation of our election procedures. The protestors wanted to slow things down to check everything went correctly

@PluckySmurf 5 ай бұрын

Nightmare scenario.

@meirm471 4 ай бұрын

So... Basically you explain the Israeli judicial reform... (As they tried to pass it). The key thing you forgot is that once you appoint loyalists instead of professionals most citizens get worse off. Because the rule of law crumbles (if the Judge cannot rule against a relative of a party member the rule of law collapses...). Some would say that the attempt to pass it is exactly what brought about the rare opportunity for Hamas to massacre 1200 people and take about 200 hostages... (Mass protests... Weakening economy... Some soldiers refusing to volunteer...)

@Re3iRtH 5 ай бұрын

We don't have a liberal democracy. We have a constitutional republic. Do these guys study basic civics or read the constitution?

@Kiros37100 2 ай бұрын

The 2 are not mutually exclusive. A republic is a form of government, in the case of the USA, the leaders are chosen through (representative) democracy.

@Tyrant_13 5 ай бұрын

"Democracy" is a euphemism for "agrees with me."

@paulvr3158 5 ай бұрын

No, Democracy is when we test the will of the people by lewtting the majority speak. Fascism, is when one man's will overrides the will of the majority. For example, take the Foreign Aid and border security package ...... The Senate, the House, the Executive, and the vast majority of the USA would pass the law, secure the border much better, and fund the Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan NOW. But unless the speaker brings this matter the people want to a vote, it does not happen. One man's will, Trumps in this case, is overriding the will of the American People, and her institutions and government. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF FASCISM

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

If suspending elections is what it takes to preserve our democracy, so be it!

@troy3456789 5 ай бұрын

@@tcorourke2007 Where is the word democracy in the Declaration of Independence, or US Constitution, or Bill of rights? Does that word or anything like it appear in any of the US state constitutions? Why doesn't it appear at all? How come no "democracy" or "Democractic" in any of the documents that describe the US government or the rights of the people, or the limits of power the government has?

@deeznutz8320 4 ай бұрын

@@tcorourke2007So not a democracy then😂😂😂😂

@tcorourke2007 4 ай бұрын

@@troy3456789 And where does it say AR-15? BIG BRAIN ARGUMENT. 🧠 🧠 🧠

@dmanson4649 5 ай бұрын

Given the opportunity, Sam would install martial law & suspend the election to prevent Trump ending democracy.

@tricky2014 5 ай бұрын

Sam Derangement Syndrome.

@jimboyle236 5 ай бұрын

Trump doesn't deserve to be allowed to run again. Shouldn't Jan 6,the have been enough. We've already lost somewhat because him being the lead candidate normalizes what he did, which definitely was to overthrow the democracy in a sense that he would be elected again regardless of losing the popular vote. Yeah a lot of posters here. Still have some sort of jaded attitude towards those who are trying to shut this criminal down and keep them away from power, where he should never should have been in the first place. Now because apparently the courts can be gamed or don't move enough for actual justice, we have to sit through another election with this guy? Through the stolen election thing again because he has no bottom and has created an army of others with no bottom purely running on emotions. The so-called liberals are emotional too. They will say but who wouldn't be seeing this BS going on? It tells me that America is in decline.

@GingerDrums 4 ай бұрын

Could polemic hypotheticals about Trumpocalypse reduce my interest in Sam Harris podcasts?

@krebgurfson5732 4 ай бұрын

everyone has their use, Sams value is gently convincing people religion is stupid. ironically his willingness to engage with fantasy when it comes to proposed political tyranny is hypocritical. the dude isn't even president right now. i could also list "how trump could" turn our country into 1 big disneyland where our clothing has to be from disney media, that doesn't mean it's logical.

@globalnomad1221 5 ай бұрын

The TDS is real

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

Haha- I bet you bought the Trump sneakers.

@DS_P8 5 ай бұрын

Sam Harris really brings out the Trumpists... you know what was real? The US Capitol was invaded by Donald Trump's inbred army and while the whole thing was on a live worldwide broadcast, Donald Trump did nothing for 4 hours. Donald Trump failed at his duty. Yet here you are... you support a traitor and that is your legacy.

@buckchile614 5 ай бұрын

But, it's not the chronic variety like yours

@ultimatist 5 ай бұрын

Shut it, the adults are speaking

@thereiffodyssey2000 5 ай бұрын

@globalnomad1221 let’s ignore Jan 6 and the recorded phone call saying they need to “find more votes” for a second. I have one, simple yes or no question for you. Has Trump ever committed to a peaceful power of transfer. Please link to an article or video if you say yes.

@paulpease8254 5 ай бұрын

Chilling scenario, that has played out in recent years with Hungary, India, etc.

@MelbourneMeMe 5 ай бұрын

Yes, Hungary and India, two countries that are practically identical to the United States, makes this hypocritical case totally plausible and not complete hyperbole at all...

@terrymckenzie8786 5 ай бұрын

The criminals trump has pardoned is appalling, as long as they were loyal to trump.

@deeznutz8320 4 ай бұрын

He didn't free a terrorist like Susan Rosenberg Clinton did

@ronmobbs 5 ай бұрын

horrifying

@MaximoToro 5 ай бұрын

Trumpistan: "tRuMp dErAnGeMeNt sYnDrOmE, yOu dOnT tAlk aBoUt DeAr LeAdEr lIkE tHiS!!"

@deniseb2571 2 ай бұрын

This is laughable. So delusional

@steve112285 4 ай бұрын

Democracy is voting for the trash candidates and policies of my favored party. Anything else is fascism. You wouldn't want democracy to end, would you?

@user-pl4pz2xn2c 5 ай бұрын

wow serious TDS going on here

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

Haha- I bet you paid for the Trump NFT “cards”

@DS_P8 5 ай бұрын

You know what's really deranged? Claiming that the Capitol being invaded on J6 was a tourist visit. THAT is deranged. You support a traitor, enjoy your choices.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

@@snakesandsticks What, no sneakers joke?

@snakesandsticks 5 ай бұрын

@@tcorourke2007 why? did you buy them?

@thereiffodyssey2000 5 ай бұрын

@user-pl4pz2xn2c let’s ignore Jan 6 and the recorded phone call saying they need to “find more votes” for a second. I have one, simple yes or no question for you. Has Trump ever committed to a peaceful power of transfer. Please link to an article or video if you say yes.

@hob976 5 ай бұрын

This is why free speech is so important. These conversations have to be recorded into the internet so we can point to them in 5 years. So they can be added to a Matt Orfalea compilation, like the Russiagaters and the 2016 election deniers that you want to forget about. You guys know he was already president once, right? God, I hate Trump and I like Sam Harris, but the derangement syndrome is very real...

@lucy-pero 5 ай бұрын

yeah. we also remember he amd his lackeys attempted a coup to remain in power when he was president.. so what is the point here?

@cmhardin37 5 ай бұрын

@@lucy-perono that did not happen. There was not an attempted coup.

@tayler2396 5 ай бұрын

Gen X, the Worst Generation. Sorry, America.

@61shirley 5 ай бұрын

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight 🤦‍♂️ . How can they not see the irony in their point of view? Let’s list 20 steps how anyone could end democracy

@andreisopon4615 5 ай бұрын

Except Trump tried ending it before he left office. Fake electors, find me the votes, Capitol being broken into by 2000 people while the certification process was taking place.

@Ancor3 5 ай бұрын

"Irony" is not the appropriate word here. The problem isn't that "anyone" could end democracy in this manner either, because their argument is that only Trump would attempt to do it in the first place. The issue is the 20 specific steps.

@61shirley 5 ай бұрын

@@Ancor3 their argument that only trump would do it is the irony.

@Ancor3 5 ай бұрын

@@61shirleyCare to elaborate?

@ultimatist 5 ай бұрын

These are steps already attempted during last admin, not a big secret.

@AlissaMarie526 5 ай бұрын

I believe this is completely absurd. Reflection by projection.

@tcorourke2007 5 ай бұрын

Look, sometimes we need to suspend elections in order to preserve our democracy.

@7JeTeL7 5 ай бұрын

it already started to happen in previous trumps term(luckily too late); "A Schedule F appointment was a job classification in the excepted service of the United States federal civil service that existed briefly at the end of the Trump administration during 2020-2021. It would have contained policy-related positions, removing their civil service protections and making them easy to fire. It was never fully implemented, and no one was appointed to it before it was repealed at the beginning of the Biden administration. The purpose of the provision was to increase the President's control over the federal career civil service. While proponents stated this would increase flexibility and accountability, it was widely criticized as providing means to retaliate against federal officials for political reasons. It was estimated that tens or hundreds of thousands of career employees could have lost their civil service protections, increasing the number of political appointments by a factor of ten."

@zsimon771228 5 ай бұрын

I thought so too it was absurd from Orban as he was a major actor destroying iron curtain and leading Hungary to democracy. And look what power does to one’s mind, he twisted all institutions to his favor and led the country to an electoral autocracy. Value and protect the institutions of democracy until it’s too late!

@7JeTeL7 5 ай бұрын

@@zsimon771228 yeah, i watch it from czech republic; Orbán is now legally untouchable, has also full control over public service media...state of legislation in hungary is such, that it would not be allowed to enter eu, yet is blackmailing eu with ukraine so it could recieve eu funding, while changing nothing...its appaling how he sells it to public like some virtue/backbone...same scenario is with Fico in slovakia now; few months in office and his main priorities are judiciary changes (so he could effectively pardon himself) and public service media legislation so he could portrait himself in certain light, scary stuff...

@user-gt7lf8qq2v 5 ай бұрын

Democracy is still the best system . We are all product of different kind of system and in order to evolve and reach in the rightful and just way of thinking, of doing, of saying, humans need time, free space to move, to express the inner thoughts. System that is too tight or too lose will never give a mind a chance to be open freely. There are people who do not like to hear this idea. But this iis nevitable.

@brucegregson621 5 ай бұрын

The current administration? Too soon

@witherbossbros1157 5 ай бұрын

Constitutional amendment specifically states two terms, so, if he is elected a second time, that's all folks.

@jjreddick377 5 ай бұрын

Not when you push for Martial law and the suspension of the Constitution

@TheWaveofbabies 5 ай бұрын

That means two consecutive terms... or he can just be "vice president" under invanka. It's a fucking joke.

@troy3456789 5 ай бұрын

@@jjreddick377 That is definitely on the menu for Joe Biden and Harris. He's doing everything he can to crap all over 1st, 2nd, 4th and 14th amendments of the bill of human rights in the US right now as we speak. He just opened up a gun confiscation office in the white house.

@ryanhubbard1885 5 ай бұрын

@@TheWaveofbabiesno it doesn’t. The 22nd amendment states that a person cannot be elected president more than twice, or more than once if they served more than two years of the remainder of the previous president’s term. It would say consecutive terms if it only applies to consecutive terms.

@davidfayfield6594 5 ай бұрын

So what. He just says I’m staying. You and what army gonna make me leave ?

@TennesseeJed 5 ай бұрын

It's already over.

@theforcedmeme 5 ай бұрын

Pretty much. Frankly, anyone with the ability to work as an expat or abroad in general should leave.

@r.p.mcmurphy6623 5 ай бұрын

Then pull down your panties and bed over!

@mbords01 5 ай бұрын

Indeed; and the chipping away of how meaningful government institutions particularly the legal system function started when he was elected in 2016 and is still going. No coup is needed. I am feeling strong headwind for sure....

@TennesseeJed 5 ай бұрын

@@theforcedmeme I wish I had the means and family disconnect to do it.