Yes. Gerard did a really big HUGE push

Yep as a big my chemical romance fan and a fan of Gerard Way’s other comics I was incredibly happy to hear about his support. I wasn’t at all surprised, considering how supportive everyone in MCR has always been of queer people, but it just made me that much prouder to be a fan.

Yes! I didn't even know know Elliot came out as a trans man when I started watching TUA. And I was like, what a nice name for a young woman to have. I was so confused when I heard people referring to him as Ellen.

When I went back to rewatch earlier seasons, I didn't know they had updated it to show his name. When I saw it, I had to pause because I just started bawling. It's such a little thing, but it means so much, and my little trans heart nearly burst 😭

Right? Like it's so good to see it as nothing really important other than that you see that person as who they are. Good and bad.

@@unrightist that’s five in a nutshell isn’t it? A good hearted fair and reasonable A-hole (I say this out of love, love his character and Aiden Gallagher plays him beautifully)

The thing I give to the writers, is no one uses it as a way to get to Viktor. Like Allison who largely wants to tear Viktor to pieces never misgenders him. Or Five's speech about Viktor being a villain and he would kill him. Not once is him being himself used against him, only his actions.

Same, loved that scene.

five's sass gives me life

What a great idea!

It shouldn’t be revolutionary to ask someone who is actually the minority in question to consult on the writing. Gentleman Jack is similar,but with queer women.

i love all their reactions. so chill and kind of heartwarming

Literally my favorite part of the entire show

One of my favourite scenes from the whole show ❤️

I think I am learning something here. I myself am just a cis woman and I'm content with that. I am however trying to understand the struggles that I'm unaware of and I have not had myself. So when it comes to the UA treatment of Victor, I guess what kinda rubbed me the wrong way was the fact that I felt really pandered to. I don't think my angle comes from transphobia, but like, why was not a single brother of Victor struggling with this change, like many people in real life would? Why did no one hick up with pronouns or the wrong name once? In my mind it didn't feel like representation of how transition is like for a trans person, it is more like what ideal transition would be like if there was no bigotry in the world. I struggled for a bit to see why it was written like that when the previous season did such a good job at portraying the isdues with racism. I think I have now learned that many trans people appreciate this angle, and this was not written for me to learn, but for trans people to feel comforr, to feel that there could be a world that is accepting... I failed to consider that.

​@corneliahanimann2173 viktor is in an entirely new timeline where no one but his siblings knows who he even is or was. all this season is showing is that there is no bigotry in his family, which makes a lot of sense for each of them. messing up pronouns would have probably been more realistic (because sometimes it IS an honest mistake) but that would have been adding it just to add it, and the writers probably felt subjecting trans viewers to such a thing for no real reason (AKA it has nothing to do with the plot) would be cruel. and it would have been.

Aw that’s awesome! And a really spot on coincidence. I remember when Elliot first transitioned I was like “no!!! I don’t need to have crushes on any more anxious skinny white guys. Sam Collins and timothee chalamet already live in my head rent free.” 😭

I'm a trans guy and my name is exactly spelled as Viktor's name. My sibling now makes fun of me because of the name familiarities 😭

​@@thefruityvoidI think Viktor is a Krumy name get it coz Vitkor Krum in Harry Potter sorry I mentioned Harry Potter is a trans positive space, I just liked the pun

@@thefruityvoidhey don’t feel too bad, Viktor Vaughn is a great rapper

oh hey im also a trans guy named victor and a scrawny anxious white guy lmao

I'm just replying so you can see how much likes you got

Exactly, like, probably the most cishet guy in the group and he still does his best to make Viktor feel accepted. Even if Viktor said he didn’t need a coming out party, it’s the effort and thought behind the offer that counts

Well actually it is an alien, so I don't know if they have a genre

You might be confused.

Ignore the above guy. The only person who can truly know who you are is you.

I know it's been like 6 months, but I think the best response to that is "No. I was confused, and now I'm not."

@@achaudhari101 I think you're confused if you think you have any say in another person's identity... And a stranger no less

You mean your daughter.

@@achaudhari101 nope

@@achaudhari101 and literally why r u commenting on a trans supporting channel? If the idea of trans people bother u SOOO much, why r u subjecting urself to it?

@@harrystylesfan4812 for a reaction out of us. Next time report and don't engage

@@monsterglacier Reporting does nothing, but yeah

GERARD WAY WROTE THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY!?

@@evie3324this is the first time I heard about this too

​​@@Hello-jm3qq@evie3324 They wrote the comics although I'm fairly certain he wasn't a direct writer on the show, though no doubt his experiences may have been considered. It's also worth mentioning that they got other trans men to help write it, as well as Elliot being involved in the writing

@@evie3324 Yeah. He also created Peni Parker. Like, the anime girl with a big robot in the spiderverse movie.

Common Gerard Way W

He’s a smol bean. Who can tear the world apart, sure, but a smol bean

This! I’m reading Elliot’s memoir (Pageboy) and he knew from a very young age that he was at *least* GNC if not fully a man but because of the success of Juno he was forced deeper into the closet.

Let me have bi representation! And just because he was being manipulated in that relationship doesn't mean it was comphet. He was a victim of abuse, plain and simple

Comphet is a concept invented by a transphobic biphobic aphobic terf lesbian you may want to reconsider how deeply you buy into what she said. The general gist sounds intuitive so reading through the document doesn't raise many alarm bells esp if ur not aspec(she's so aphobic its gross) but it's well known she's a trash person and that asexuality, aromanticism, bisexuality, and transgender people are real and valid all of which Comphet does not believe. Also, abusive relationships are still relationships. It sucks, but it's true. Don't diminish that shit it's actually kinda dangerous to say "if it's abuse it didn't count". That's like virginity for dating, and virginity is also bullshit fakey fake nonsense so bite your tongue about the way you're talking about relationships just because you feel weird about bi people even if you don't realize you do.

Yeah I think Viktor was legitimately attracted to him before he went mask off. So I'm guessing Viktor's bi, but I guess till we get proof either way it's up to headcannon and guess work.

same, Ive only ever had sisters, so Ive never had that sort of group, to feel accepted in, not even in school. My family supports me, I just yearn to be accepted and supported by a masculine group of friends or peers.

I have mixed feelings on Harlan, because I agree with your analysis of the cliche. I appreciated that when he was a child, Vanya and his mother didn't treat him like an object. It was a break from these shows with the 'autism mom' character whose entirely personality is hating their child for acting like a normal child, whilst claiming to love them. That is such a low bar lol. Also I think that adult Harlan's actor portrayed his body language well, without going over the top stereotypical like those same shows. They showed sensory issues realistically. But then he died so soon after only a couple scenes so rip.

I mean yeah the headphones are from the 60s- they didn’t have Boze noise cancelling ones yet. Also maybe you missed the point- Harlan was more likely than neurotypical people to be overstimulated by sounds and frequencies which is why he was so tortured and out of control having Viktor’s powers.

What I hated about Harlan (in season 2) is the scene where his mom restrains him during a meltdown, which is probably the absolute worst thing you could do in that situation, and that has KILLED autistic kids before. I also hated when she was talking to Viktor and said something alot he lines of ‘a husband that won’t listen to you, and a kid that won’t talk to you’ like fuck that, actually, he communicates just fins without words, he isn’t living a lesser life because he doesn’t want to/can’t talk.

@@futuristicgirl14 even if we assume that viktor always heard that frequency but choose to ignore it bc it wasn't stimulating. the show didn't tryed to avoid the "disability brings superpowers" thingy. now that i realize, Avatar the last Airbender does that too... sad. It's empowering to see toph developing a skill bcuz os the disability, but it's attributing a function to a disability. disability is not a game mechanic that you lose HP to have more damage. disability does not have a function. disability just show that our system does not cares about different bodies and minds. the killing of harlan after he teached viktor proves this point. when his disability is not useful anymore, they get rid of the character. there's more i could say but I'll try not to make a 10 hour long essay about this. but i continue to respond you if you would like me to

the whole reason he got powers was from the scene where he ran off and almost drowned in a lake, and when viktor did cpr or whatever its called on him, somehow his powers transferred to the kid a little bit, none of it was because he was autistic afaik

I'm not trans, so I don't really feel the need to comment on the nature of Vincent's arc in this season. I'm guessing you aren't black, so maybe you should carefully consider if you should share your opinion on Allison this season, hmm?

@@ixis They're right. It's implied in season 1 that Allison was not always a good person, but was trying to change because it ended losing her her daughter so of course when her motivation to change is wiped from existence with no possibility of coming back she would revert back also coupled with the fact that she was basically the sibling expected to have her head on her shoulders and help everyone else, which is a common trope to see black woman in, of course she would also be pissed that the siblings she tried to help basically tell her "Suck it up, it's not just about you". Her behavior is basically a mix of having enough of her family and this apocalypse bs and revert back to old toxic behavior with no support system to help her

@@ixis allisons behavior in this season is accurate to the comics.

@@ixis Was Allison's arc on her Blackness? I missed that but I found her insufferable from day 1. I'm also mixed and autistic and queer (ace, gay, and genderqueer) and the oldest sibling and had a speech impediment so I think I got all the characters in the bag besides being dead. I have chronic upset tummy, so maybe that counts?

​@@kurtkunkle3956 Doesn't mean it was consistent with the rest of the show though. They never gave a reason why she blames Victor for everything even though Victor was easily the least logical person to blame or why she only chose that time for it or why she suddenly went from a good (albeit inconsistently so) person at the end of season 2 to a remorseless murderer. They were also inconsistent about how they wanted the viewers to see her. Most of the season is clearly written to make us sympathize with Allison & blame Victor for being upset that his son was murdered but near the end, they suddenly remembered it was supposed to be an Allison villain arc so they suddenly have other people start acknowledging that Allison is acting crazy & dangerous instead of just inexplicably blaming Victor. Then, she gets rewarded at the end because of course she does & we're supposed to be happy for her even though she's kidnapping her ex's daughter for eternity. It's also terrible timing because they wrote Allison as such a consistently reasonlessly scummy person toward Victor specifically that it ends up being wildly out of Allsion's new characterization for her to be so accepting. According to her new characterization, she'd be dead naming Victor constantly, just out of spite & everyone else would be praising her for it because they're her zombies now because one of the writers (I forgot his name) loves her too much. The show would be better if Allison died in season 1 when it seemed like she did. Victor is only poorly written in the same situation in which everyone else is poorly written. Which is whenever Allison is around. Victor gets over the death of his son after a few minutes because the show couldn't try to make us sympathize with Allison if Victor was crying & behaving like a real person would after their kid is murdered by their sister.

I didn't know that! Cool!

FUCKING MCR-

Omg this was made by MCR guy!?!? I didn’t now that!!! I gotta watch it now !!!

@@RayDrawzDragonz he also wrote the og comics that have cool refrances to mcr songs!

@@RayDrawzDragonzYeah! He also came up with the character Peni Parker in the spider verse comics and worked on doom patrol! I actually got in to MCR after reading Doom Patrol and had a moment of “oh sh*t is this the same guy?”

I just finished watching this video for the first time, and when this scene about the mirror came up, and they looked in the glass, I said "me" out loud *at the exact same moment Viktor did.* I've never seen Umbrella Academy. That's how sincere and real this moment was. I looked in my own mirror next to my desk when this simultaneous affirmation happened and wanted to cry with happiness.

@@ashleyboots3386 the exact same thing happened to me!! :0

@@EliEnby hi fellow Ash! That's so sweet to hear 😄

I didn't know they'd done that when I went back to rewatch it, and I genuinely started crying when I saw his name. It's so small, and probably most people wouldn't notice it, but it means so much

@@sevans8784 same. Had to rewind for a second to see if it was real and I didn't stop smiling for the rest of the episode. Little things like that are SO important

I agree

Same lmao

I mean I guess he already knew with the whole Missy stuff

It definitely would have sucked if the writers had made Elliot do the whole season in drag. What we got, though, was a situation that feels a lot like how it has played out in my own experience, as several of my friends have transitioned over the last few years. The writers deserve a TON of credit.

I see where the frustration comes from, but Allison doesn't stop being supportive of Viktor's trans identity, she get upset with him because she's been the supportive sister since season 1, and keeps getting hurt by it. She's always tried with him, making mistakes, but trying to mend their relationship. Even after he almost killed her, she chose to save him over the world, their other brothers, and her daughter. And everytime she's stuck by him, she loses loses the life she's built up and loved ones and is expected to start over. The trauma of losing her voice, her daughter basically three times, her husband, and getting stuck in 1960s America in such a short amount of time is effecting her. But she's the collected one, so she tries to stay cool. She was barely holding on, literally trying to rumor her self and even considering self-harm/suicide, but this is what broke her. She's a mother who child doesn't even exist, she doesn't even have a picture of her. And she is still on Viktor's side while she is struggling, it's only when she learn Viktor lied to her she snaps. Him lying about Harlan about killing their mothers (meaning to Allison, killing her daughter) isn't about Viktor just lying, it's that he promised to have her back and he didn't. She chose Viktor over the entire world, her own daughter, because she loved him so much. And he couldn't do the same for his own sister, or for Claire, for someone who kmew Viktor knew for a month 60 years ago, who is more a less a stranger to Viktor. It was showing his love for her and her daughter, is limited. He's not someone she can't trust to help her anymore. She's a character that hasn't really been angry up until this point. Shes always been the one to instantly forgive Viktor, not matter how much she was hurt. She's warranted to be angry over the loss of her daughter, after all this time. She made the wrong choices, and was extremely cruel at times, but she's in grief, and Viktor's emotions getting the best of him hurt Allison too. Neither deserve it and it's hard to watch, but we understand why. And even harder knowing multiple things she said and did were just to hurt Viktor, because she's so hurt and has been quietly hurting for so long. And in the end, her betrayal of the family was bad, but understandable with her desperation. She actually promised their safety, including Viktor, not knowing what she was promising. She's a desperate mother longing for her child, seeing no one do anything, she took matter into her own hands. She was saving them along with her daughter, even if it meant betraying them. I can't say she's playing the victim because she's not trying to play at anything, she's genuinely in grief and angry about everything. Yes Viktor is trans and Allison of course still respects his identity, but that doesn't mean he's flawless or didn't make mistakes and has the right to be angry. I was really worried about that as a trans guy myself, that they would only baby Viktor and he'd not be allowed to do anything misguided. Viktor means well with Harlan, but doesnt get anyone get a say over their own fates and is selfish with his decision with Harlan (not that Harland deserved any of the stuff that happened to him or wouldve happened to him). Viktor is also used to seeing himself as the victim, and is expecting an apology immediately after his, unintentionally making it look like he's only sorry to he can be forgiven. Obviously he does deserve an apology, but it was clear it wasn't the time or place (not that that had the time, but he could've atleast waited a few hours). Allison's forgiven him for so much for a long time, and he was expecting her to again, not considering how hurt she was. Again, this is not to say actually Allison was right and Viktor was wrong, or Viktor is bad or Allison didn't made many many bad choices, and it's more complicated than Allison trying to ruin Viktor's life and just playing victim, and Viktor did nothing but apologize. It's two character who are extremely vulnerable and hurt by each other. Allison is meant to mirror Viktor's action of season one, where one is doing terrible actions, but we understand why even tho we know its wrong, and the others well meaning but misguided attempts unintentionally pushed them further into doing those wrong things, when they only meant to help people. It's definitely wasn't perfectly well done, especially not as well done as season one did it, but I'm glad to see the attempt and Allison finally allowed to be angry with the hurt she received over the years and Viktor finally acknowledging externally how he's hurt others.

@@HB-eh9zf I’m not reading all that, but I’m happy for you, or sorry that happened

I'm so sorry how long this is 😂. I did not intend that. Again, I want to say I completely see your point, I just love both of these characters and their flawed relationship, and I liked the exploration of the reverse of their dynamic in season 1, switching roles. Again so sorry for how long this is and this is not meant to take away from your feelings, I just wanted to share my (too long) thoughts about their relationship and it's changed 😅

@@HB-eh9zf I did take the time to read it and it was spot on! Well done! 👍🏾

@@HB-eh9zf I did read that whole thing, and it was very impressive & spot on. Not too long dw

Tbh Allison's character in general sorta tanked in season 3, i feel like she changed for the worse during that season so it's not really shocking

I mean... S1, she started on a redemption arc where we didn't see her dark side (SA, child abuse), then she got support to stay nice, but that's not her natural state after all the childhood trauma and her powers affecting her. She never healed from whatever fueled her villainy, so it came back.

@redacted5078 In seasons 1 and 2 I hated Luther and loved Allison. In season 3 I hated Allison and loved Luther. Their characters took complete 180s due to the ones they loved.

That actually makes a lot of sense when talking about them in the show vs the comics as we are still behind

Honestly they all need to break off like they did before. Some of them were doing pretty well in season two by themselves, and the ones who weren't have found people they want to spend their lives with in season three. Except maybe Five, but he'll probably be fine.

My brother took his Dead First and Middle names, masculinized them, and then switched them to make his name. Our mom named him after late family members, and he wanted to keep that sentiment after changing his name. Doesn't answer your question per se, but I can imagine a good percentage of Trans People would fit into this.

@@Chaos-._ yeah, I've noticed a lot of trans people do stuff like this, so that's why I'm curious about percentages. It's interesting to hear the specifics of your brother's story. I didn't do anything like this when choosing my new name. I just went with Riv because I made it up and liked it, and then changed to Porter because I liked it better than a made up one.

@@RivLoveshine I think both Riv and Porter are great names :)

I'm a trans guy, I agree that as I have transitioned I have seen a lot of people put their foot in their mouth on accident or mess up. Or you know. On purpose too. While the way they handled the transition might not entirely be realistic, I think it was the best way for this story. This is the kind of coming out trans people want for themselves. To have it just be accepted and to slowly fit into their lives and move on. Showing the darker reality would have thrown in perhaps more conflict than they wanted with the overarching conflict being the story they were already telling, and letting us have a comfortable transition gave trans people hope we could also find something similar and cis people an example of how to show love to the people they care about if they come out. Realism isn't always the best thing to see. Sometimes you need to see the best case so you can see that you do in fact deserve to be treated with the same respect and dignity as everyone else. I also am so glad they did go in a positive direction, it was very refreshing amid a slew of terrible representation.

I think writing in any misgendering, accidental or on purpose, might have hit a little bit too close to home for Elliot. I prefer having the actors be comfortable on the set, even if it means some detractions from realism. Particularly in a show about, you know, supernatural siblings trying save the world from apocalypse.

I think that’s still who Five is, but at the time he thought that his mission was over and that he didn’t need to save the world anymore. He shows his support because he’s no longer too busy to see his family’s personal issues anymore, but he’s still the same person regardless of the circumstances, so naturally he’s all like “I’m happy for you but you still don’t speak for us” because that’s just so Five. Sorry to rant about Five in a video about Viktor, I’m just the tiniest bit obsessed with Five.

It doesn't help that Allison is a gleeful son murderer in this season & will do anything to hurt Victor except act like a bigot.

I definitely understand that perspective. I will say, that's how I was with my lovely niece. It was just "that's a pretty name", and warm smiles. Her mom mentioned how grateful she was that we adapted so seamlessly from day 1. We've never even deadnamed her by accident. This felt perfect to me because it mimicked our experience.

@SeychellesSunshine For me, it's about setting an example. Most people will not get it the first time, they will make mistakes, and not for harmful purposes. And those people that try and mess up could feel disheartened and feel like they are bad seeing exclusively examples where no one ever struggles. "Like if you do say their given name ever you are a bad person. If you ask questions, that's you trying to tear apart their identity rather than put the pieces together to understand them better." I don't think painting a rigid picture of acceptance is helpful for the majority of people. Even trans people don't usually just accept the moment it is noticed we are indeed trans, and we have experience with it. Even for us, it takes time to learn about ourselves and accept that. So I think its only fair that others are provided the same space to learn, grow, and understand.

for me I feel like the reason they don't do that is because the story isn't about Viktor's transition. He's transitioned, but the story's about the same character driven end-of-the-world stuff it always is. Like how in season 1 Klaus has his boyfriend, but Klaus' story isn't about him being gay. They could have made a storyline focusing on his transition, but I get the impression that the writers didn't want to do that because that's not what they wanted season 3 to be about. I remember reading somewhere that they didn't want to make a big deal about Viktor's transition, but can't remember where or who said it.

I know right the stupidest change they ever made

Oh. Which episode is that? What do you mean Viktor is Klaus' daughter??

@@HotDogTimeMachine385 I assume they mean klaus called Viktor Reginald’s daughter. Very disappointing if true.

@@HotDogTimeMachine385 I just spent a while looking it up, and it’s when Klaus is describing the things Reginald had done in their timeline. “You drugged your daughter for years” is the quote.

@@rulerzreachf4n34 did kalsu know Viktor is trans yet? because i remember Viktor coming out surprisingly late in the season

@@sydssolanumsamsys At this point, I’m pretty sure (???) he did.

I love Gerard Way so much they're so magical ❤️

She played as a pregnant woman before... Didn't seem that uncomfortable. For people who lie by pretending that gender is different than sex, you guys sure do like to use biological terms. "He" is playing a "male" character? If you're going to conflate sex and gender, so am I. Just not in the way you'd like.

Seriously the way she mind controls Luther and acts like she's the victim when he goes too far was just awful