How University Broke Me As An Autistic Student

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3 жыл бұрын

On this episode of my podcast ‘My Friend Autism’, I share some personal insights into being an #autistic law student at University. #actuallyautistic #autism #asd #thatautisticguy
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@mooreanonumbers 2 жыл бұрын

The issue with affirmative action is that it usually tends to be a bit hollow if the organisation's #1 explicit goal is to ensure survival of the fittest.

@anthapersephone7311 Жыл бұрын

Every time I hear Australians on KZfaq my ears just get so happy

@buttercxpdraws8101 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. I studied law too as I was always encouraged in that direction due to my academic performance and enjoyment of public speaking in high school. The studying law part was easy but dealing with moving into a college on campus and negotiating all of the new social dynamics sent me into a spin. I was doing a double degree in arts and law and managed to complete my arts degree but was so distracted by trying to socialise and appear ‘normal’ that by the time I reached my final year of law i was so disengaged from study that I decided I needed a break. Being away from home for the first time I also struggled greatly with day to day living and executive function. I took a break thinking I would go back to finish but life got in the way and I didn’t return to complete my final year. 25 years later it is such a shame as I would have made an excellent lawyer had I not thought that I had to work so hard at the social bs and just focused on my special interests which were criminal and constitutional law. I realised that not so good lawyers are often very successful, primarily due to their networking and social skills rather than their actual ability. I thought ‘I don’t have the connections which other law students have so I’m not going to be successful. The networking seemed more important to being a successful lawyer than getting high marks on exams unfortunately. Looking back on my experience at uni through the lense of ASD (late diagnosis - 47 yrs old), I can now be a lot kinder to myself and understand why what happened, happened. And most importantly not hate myself or think I was a failure because I didn’t live up to expectations.

@anjachan Жыл бұрын

I totally agree. More time in school didn´t help me a lot too. AND it was a school for disabled kids. AND I went to 4 schools of that kind. All pretty much the same ...

@seriousShane 3 жыл бұрын

Your experience really resonated with me. I was most of my way through a science degree at about the same time, pre pandemic. Things ended the same way. I was also a mature student, and registered with my university's disability service. And though they were fantastic and supportive, the majority of accommodations were assessment based: extra time for exams and assignments. They did go a lot further and provided a separate room, and other environmental niceties. But ... effectively only at the point of assessment.

@orionkelly 3 жыл бұрын

It’s clearly a widespread issue that needs to be addressed.

@denisesilveira3427 Жыл бұрын

I managed to graduate in Med School in six years (regular timeline), it’s been 16 years now. Despite becoming a medical doctor, I managed to NOT complete a specialization in Laboratory Medicine (I completed all three years EXCEPT the last exam ad I was utterly unable to go back finish it, ever), but I finally completed a different specialization in Epidemiology, and I’m now officially done with studying FORMAL courses where I might be evaluated or have to undergo ANY exams. I had no idea back then but I am positive now I am on the spectrum. I must mentally prepare myself to see patients and people before getting out of home. At the end of the workday I’m drained and exhausted. If unplanned patients come by n my regular workday, I get cranky, then I inhale deeply, mask and smile to se them. I also work on Hospital ER Shifts, where basically everything is unplanned and unpredictable. I have no idea what will come. I mentally prepare myself to see an unknown number of people who have stuff I can’t predict, for 24h straight. I come home from my shifts exhausted and I tend to need to sleep for hours after. Why do I keep working as a medical doctor? I don’t really have a better choice now. Good pay. With the cash, I am financing my dream of raising high quality beef cattle for reproduction, creating the infrastructure so I might be able to quit medicine in some years, or at least limit my med work so I’m not always drained. I recall professors telling me in Med School that I was UNFIT to be a doctor. One even told me I didn’t deserve being one. Of course, them saying so just made me want to prove them otherwise, so I made sure to finish my course. I actually thank them for making me want to prove them wrong. In a distorted way they ended up helping me. Sometimes all we need is someone saying we can’t do something.

@camellia8625 Жыл бұрын

It courses could be self paced that would also be very helpful for autistic people.

@abogoni 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing your thoughts about your study experience - i really struggled with my computer science degree - kinda surprised i managed to get through it - then later in my life i tried studying philosophy but had to pull out because of study difficulties - i might be able to get through a research degree which i hope to do in the future once i can figure out how to study in a style that works for me - but any kind of coursework is extremely hard for me

@amandamandamands 3 жыл бұрын

I discovered that I can learn in the style that is taught at TAFE, tried uni and couldn't do it, way too abstract for me and it seemed like the assessments didn't actually have direct relevance for the degree (I didn't get past first semester took the same subjects twice). Also didn't like the fact that if you are good at citing your sources then it is a well documented assessment but you miss one of those then it is plagiarism (not for plagiarism) also that you are too low down the totem pole to have an opinion unless you can back it up with others that think that way. It also doesn't help that I am really bad at essay writing. I didn't have anything specific for assessments but had a good relationship with my teachers so they knew about my mental health issues (was also in and out of hospital at that time) so if I was a bit behind they were OK with it and just gave me hard deadlines regarding when they needed to have marks in. I get told all the time that I am so intelligent, it is a shame you aren't doing more with it. Even the occupations that used to be totally apprentice based now have a classroom component (all for standards) but that means that these people that are great learning in a practical manner still need to be able to get the info down in a theoretical assessment. I got to have my exams in a separate room (one of the study rooms in the library) and the extra time was that if I wanted to get up and walk around I could, I didn't have any extra time to do the actual exam. I had that for mental illness, am currently in the process of organising an assessment to see if ASD is also in the picture.

@sshilander 2 жыл бұрын

I dont know if you still check comments, but.. I'm (likely) autistic and a teacher. What do you think would help? How can I get students to email me for help? How can I get you to come to my office hours? As a teacher, in college, I cannot get information about your disability unless you tell me, I'm also forbidden from asking you to tell me.

@orionkelly 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Steph, I appreciate it. I spoke on the system wide deficiencies. As a teacher my hope is that the school empowers you to provide inclusive education for all. Based on my podcast and video, what do you suggest? It can’t be left to those with disabilities to make all the adjustments.

@sshilander 2 жыл бұрын

@@orionkelly Yes, they tell us to be inclusive, but don't give us many things that would help. I think the main one is just building relationships and hope the students will come ask me when they need help. I try to plan and organize my class and include the students in on the agenda. I always say at the beginning that my job is to help them learn so if they can think of anything or if I can help out that I'm there. I'm with you on the "please more research". Sadly teaching in US is going to combust soon anyway. Hopefully whatever emerges from the ruins is better for everyone. Thanks for responding =)