How Valve is Fixing The Cheater Problem in CS2

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Cheating in CS:GO has been a longstanding issue that has plagued the experience for many years. As Valve gears up for the release of Counter-Strike 2, tackling the problem of cheaters is more important than ever to ensure a sustainable, fair and enjoyable environment for all legitimate players. Today, we'll explore the various ways Valve is poised to address this issue at an unprecedented level. Starting with the basic approaches, we’ll build up to Valve’s new cutting-edge tools that aim to create an unrivaled anti-cheat system for CS2.
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@zorgapb4691 Жыл бұрын

Valve Guides: Please do not cheat Cheaters: If you say so...

@tuneboyz5634 Жыл бұрын

*cheating rate drops to zero*

@vonfluffykins5868 Жыл бұрын

I'm still gonna cheat😂

@benny_meatballs5993 Жыл бұрын

@@vonfluffykins5868 thats gay

@vonfluffykins5868 Жыл бұрын

@benny_meatballs5993 Sips coffee, sits back in chair. Injects cheats... Ah this is the life🤤🤤

@benny_meatballs5993 Жыл бұрын

@@vonfluffykins5868 ok

@foofighter91x91 Жыл бұрын

I hope they dont fight just the blatant ones. The "legit" Hackers are the bigger problem in my opinion...

@InfinityReptar Жыл бұрын

Closet cheaters are the worst, because you can’t differentiate them from someone legit. Also, I hope Valve does well with fixing the cheater problem so I can stop being accused of cheating just because I have some 200iq moments. Seems like everyone is always accusing others of cheating even when the person isn’t, but I guess that’s paranoia for you.

@iHCSx Жыл бұрын

@_Tao__ Жыл бұрын

@@InfinityReptar yeah i get what you say, i came back recently and after some casual top fraggin games my trust factor went from green to red but it's not their fault, valve shitty anticheat made the paranoia rise and now even if you are legit you could get reported coz everyone knows that the game is full of cheaters even players with expensive skins

@InfinityReptar Жыл бұрын

@@_Tao__ just keep playing the game and it should eventually get back to green trustfactor. As far as I know my trustfactor hasn’t dropped below green, but that could be because my account is pretty old. It just gets tiresome to be accused of cheating after awhile, especially from teammates. If you do bad/mediocre, you are trash at the game. If you do good, you’re cheating. No in-between.

@goliathmb18 Жыл бұрын

@@_Tao__ how are u even seeing if ur trust factor is green/red?? I am starting to the my trust factor is low since my last 3 matches were a hvh match and 1 with a cheater on my team..... This started happening after getting alot of reports in dm and after that in comp matches..... I deranked from global to le thanks to good ol mm balancing

@tomassevcik5219 Жыл бұрын

Not hearing swearing Russians in every game would fix my depression

@AlwaysWinning Жыл бұрын

itd cause it

@SimoneBellomonte Жыл бұрын

@@AlwaysWinning Pfp Sauce (Artist)? 🗿

@chubamoa3640 Жыл бұрын

How do they not alleviate your depression?

@slayer8790 Жыл бұрын

Should do full lobbies then. sorry for not being fun at parties.

@alexandrkondratyev5379 Жыл бұрын

cyka blyat

@malenlhewig Жыл бұрын

Remember, it's more important to get no false positive compared to false negative VACs

@eetulehtonen69 Жыл бұрын

I'd rather have false positives than nothing

@thing4826 Жыл бұрын

@@eetulehtonen69 I'd rather have cheaters run rampant than have someone being vac'd when innocent. That would absolutely tarnish their name more than literally not even banning any cheaters.

@eetulehtonen69 Жыл бұрын

@@thing4826 I regret to inform you that your opinion is retarded.

@raf4097 Жыл бұрын

Didn't even think about this

@erixccjc2143 Жыл бұрын

Yeah you'd rather get false positives until you get your account permabanned because of overwatch when the closest you have been to cheating was x raying in your friend's minecraft server

@anonanon1604 Жыл бұрын

yoooo wouldn't it be sick if you could report someone mid-match and have valve send an AI agent over to spectate them in your live match like an old school admin?

@boski5581 Жыл бұрын

with how many thousand games there's going on at one time it's just not feasable

@capn Жыл бұрын

@@boski5581 that's why you use AI

@kendarr Жыл бұрын

@@capn it still a ridiculous amount of games played at one time for that to not screw the server

@capn Жыл бұрын

@@kendarr Valve isn't running everything on one server. They'll be fine

@rogerelzenga4465 Жыл бұрын

@@kendarr Can you please refrain from talking about topics you have NO IDEA about? the AI is not a human... it does not need time to watch the demo... it can do it in a fraction of a second... 1 AI can watch literal 120 games demo's in a sec... now have 1000 AI's waiting for a Demo 120.000 games a sec... how much more do you need? and if you think they need so many servers to run it? no... look at ChatGPT.... MILLIONS of users prompting TRILLIONS prompts use that one "server"(super computer) and it does it ALL AT THE SAME TIME... and you think it cant check a demo for weird shit trillions of times?

@Bogdan24199 Жыл бұрын

Having EU and russian servers separated would probably be the best thing Valve could do

@Bloodbound89 10 ай бұрын

that wouldnt do shit because most cheaters are german , russian and turkish XD

@johnny4kk 10 ай бұрын

@Bloodbound89 u got damn right!)

@christopherbruh 9 ай бұрын

@@Bloodbound89 i would do A LOT, you know how tired i am of hearing idiot russians scream into their mics? not to mention that they dont even speak english 99% of the time

@s34l32 9 ай бұрын

@@Bloodbound89 and polish*

@spr1te995 Жыл бұрын

If only people had high enough moral standards to not cheat. Sad world we live in.

@platinumc3ll Жыл бұрын

I never understood why one would even bother cheating. I don't see where any satisfaction comes from.

@hallo8332 Жыл бұрын

See yes cheating is not the best and generally indicates an unhealthy mindset, but it is a game

@spr1te995 Жыл бұрын

@@hallo8332 so you’re okay with cheating in anything non-professional too? cuz im assuming your implication of “it’s just a game” is you saying that it’s unimportant. so technically anything that has no impact on one’s income and general life means it’s okay to cheat in that thing?

@hallo8332 Жыл бұрын

@@spr1te995 listen I hate cheaters in video games too, and I should of phrased it correctly cheating at the real expense of others is not good, but just because some people cheat in games for fun without actually hurting anyone, it doesn't mean that they have a low moral standard or are evil

@spr1te995 Жыл бұрын

@@hallo8332 that is literally exactly what it means. it means they they dont have morals to respect fairness. “without hurting anyone” is completely subjective. video games are just as much a hobby as anything else, and no one should cheat at the expense of others. its the same as participating in any other hobby and cheating. it’s morally wrong.

@cybersteel8 Жыл бұрын

Trust factor only works for established, old accounts, but absolutely ruins the new player experience. I hope it can be addressed in CS2

@NatzoXavier Жыл бұрын

I have used multiple accounts on cs and nearly all of my matches have no cheaters. Why? well because I am extremely nice.

@cybersteel8 Жыл бұрын

@@NatzoXavier Trust factor extends beyond your main, paid account. If you smurf, other parts of your account matter, including related accounts. Valve know I have a smurf, and they treat the account as well as my main. You don't have to go very far to see new players complaining about trying to learn the game without a tutorial, but getting flamed and cheated on. Remember, the game is free-to-play, so new players are not prime, so if you've paid the $15 for your smurf you're already going to get a better experience than new F2P players.

@NatzoXavier Жыл бұрын

@@cybersteel8 There is no reason to play f2p. Also I get some cheaters on one of my smurfs but not on the others or my main. So I believe they all have their own TFs.

@user-bt8xr5si9y Жыл бұрын

@@NatzoXavier They do have their own TFs but like mentioned before this TF is also influenced by what other accounts are used on your PC

@meandab Жыл бұрын

I have a 13 year old account, cs on it since 2014, 3500 hours, and my trust factor is garbage from getting spam reported by noobs in casual lol. It doesn't work. I have to play with cheaters and noobs constantly because I'm decent at the game. That's my reward 😂

@1Fracino Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this update, seems very promising & I really hope that Valve gets it right an we can finally play games free of cheaters.

@yuritarded1737 Жыл бұрын

There is no chance cs2 is gonna be without cheaters... Its actually sad people are so naive

@mayoplayingwumbologistmd4389 Жыл бұрын

@@yuritarded1737 yes yes we all know everything is terrible and the sun will explode one day, just let people be optimistic damn

@joedartonthefenderbass Жыл бұрын

@@yuritarded1737 no one said without cheaters

@SimoneBellomonte Жыл бұрын

@@yuritarded1737 No shit, no game will ever be free of cheaters stupid.

@strawberttt Жыл бұрын

there are 100% some lifetime cheaters watching this that are crying themselves to sleep hugging their genshin body pillow

@ok-mx1mi Жыл бұрын

Not how it works

@strawberttt Жыл бұрын

@@ok-mx1mi knew thered be at least 1 watching lmao

@user-bt8xr5si9y Жыл бұрын

Probably some that will likely also not get detected by this tho. It's impossible to stop cheating completely

@Bassalicious Жыл бұрын

I enjoy the mental image of this I won't lie

@AlwaysWinning Жыл бұрын

@@strawberttt 2*

@xehP Жыл бұрын

yeah I can believe 99.9% of cheats cause red trust, but all players in red trust aren't cheaters, I remember at one point I got accused of cheating so much, I couldn't load a private match and play CSGO match making within the same session, I had to restart my game, which I don't have to do now, probably because the game has determined I'm not a cheater lmao

@CR0WYT Жыл бұрын

Same happened with me. I started playing CSGO on a really bad computer. My teammates kept reporting me for throwing when it was my hardware holding me back. When I got a better PC, it was near impossible to have an enjoyable experience due to my trust factor being so low to the point where I had to start over and make a new account.

@SD-rc2wz Жыл бұрын

scholar

@conceptofeverything8793 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there absolutely has to be a gradient to the entirety of it. I get reported, I report a couple of people and the reports are pending, but get stuck on a low enough of a trust factor to be vs cheaters every game. It obviously resets after some time, but there definitely should be a gradient even when overwatch judging someones plays. Not a binary option. Overwatch needs percentage values.

@derpthegr8689 Жыл бұрын

Just got a friend into CS for the first time yesterday. He started with low trust factor (it gave us all the pop up saying so) and it took over 30 mins to find a game just due to him being an entirely new player who even got prime to do comp matches after leveling up with some gun game matches. So it’s definitely not the most forgiving system. If anything it hindered us immensely as a squad. We won the match it did find but still that long a wait time is unacceptable really when 470k+ people were showing as on the game at the time in NA.

@boojaballs Жыл бұрын

if you get the “3rd party files” thing, it’s not because of being reported. it’s something to do with a background process or just a glitch.

@ei.. Жыл бұрын

like 50% of games I play in solo queue my team is 3 or 4 russians just talking to each other in russian. A region selection would be amazing so that I can actually communicate with my team

@shiftingsandsgames Жыл бұрын

Учи русский, это полезно

@PinguDude909 Жыл бұрын

Learn English so you can communicate with team better you gopnik , nobody wants to learn russian just to play cs go

@coolissimo69 Жыл бұрын

@@shiftingsandsgames ahahahahahha

@coolissimo69 Жыл бұрын

restrict the server's match by ping.

@chrysler238 Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile TF2 is a wasteland 🌪

@garytheplatypus803 Жыл бұрын

Just what I was going to say

@RSkrub Жыл бұрын

Because everyone who played it grew up and moved on? Only speculation.

@garytheplatypus803 Жыл бұрын

@@RSkrub I know what expect ppl to yell the game is amazing and it pulls players even tho it's old and it's lives and will love forever and yada yada yada... Nah mate the game pulls money. A LOT of money Thats why it's still important to take care off A game is measured by he's financial success just like movies Game like Fortnite are being made fun of for being dead but they pull money so they still being taken care off Of something pulls money then it's should be kept up with the minimal care of at least helping the game not be full of hackers and bots OR just pull the plug... Either announce that the game won't get any more updates and be left with the server on until the last drop of money will be drained or just shut it down... Don't leave it for that just to milk it... But we are talking about a company... Even valve is being driven by money so they do what makes it

@garytheplatypus803 Жыл бұрын

I should say that updating TF2 again will make them wayyyyy more money then it dose now but it's a gumble for them They make money without doing anything so why would they ? Why would anyone?

@truphot1 Жыл бұрын

They couldnt care about it

@catalinnedelescu Жыл бұрын

People don’t understand that, in current times it will be theoretically impossible to cheat after machine learning is used since it is just a trained bot that compares your gameplay to millions of others, overwatch on steroids

@feschber Жыл бұрын

The key point here is "theoretical"

@pedrobonifacio1046 Жыл бұрын

For now it's still not monetarily possible, sure running a couple of games through a model is possible but to analyse all potential cheaters would mean a LOT of computational power. They are probably working in a super efficient model, but it will probably take a couple of years until it's implemented

@hasanthesyrian_ Жыл бұрын

theoretically means that it is possible, not impossible

@mlgsty8880 Жыл бұрын

Theoretically by my own theories I am also Emperor of Mankind. Not in practice though.

@erixccjc2143 Жыл бұрын

Thing is, an AI cannot differentiate someone using an extremely fast in game 180° and hitting a few shots from a guy who is using a spinbot without really hitting his shots... this literally can get you banned right now in csgo

@FarazMazhar Жыл бұрын

Although I am not gonna get hyped before I see anything, Valve usually only takes steps when they are the bold ones and is usually pushing innovation in some way.

@oneworld8056 Жыл бұрын

As long as the ones of us that don't cheat and love this game? I am ok with innovation. Bring DUST back.

@JonathanHallUK Жыл бұрын

Great video, clearly laid out. Thanks

@Gamendyne Жыл бұрын

Let’s see how this video ages, hopefully you’re right 🙏🏻 fingers crossed 🤞🏻

@sebaldc.2681 Жыл бұрын

i REALLY HOPE WE CAN GET RID OF EM SOMEHOW, WE SUFFERED LONG ENOUGH.... (no caps intended but why not)!

@wedge_one Жыл бұрын

You cannot talk about any multiplayer game in 2023 or forward without talking about robust anti cheat systems. I'm looking at XDefiant, Heartland, The Finals, so on. No matter how fun they might be, if they don't counter cheats, they gonna fail. Really happy with Valve's commitment on CS2 and improving their systems.

@kkech1 Жыл бұрын

This is great news. Thanks for the update!

@KaraokeNig Жыл бұрын

Good report. let's hope for more secure game that will surely also improve the interactions inside the community.

@stefantheconqueror8710 Жыл бұрын

There goes a quarter of the playerbase

@fintherebel5000 Жыл бұрын

So like 99%?

@Apokalypse456 Жыл бұрын

good riddance I say!

@raxyl67 Жыл бұрын

A very good thing that machine learning will be used to identify cheater behavior. i was thinking about it for years , it's great that valve finally use this ! Good video btw

@Spud.007 Жыл бұрын

They have been since “vac net”

@kendarr Жыл бұрын

@@Spud.007 they have been gathering data, not using it

@coolissimo69 Жыл бұрын

that is a Boulogne crap, what it shows is how likely you are cheating, and yet will do nothing. How long been VAC learning implemented ??? How may muted players you encountered?? How many legit cheating in OW cases you get??? Very few right. So this sounds good but it's just crap propaganda.

@xlim5367 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if the new improved anti-cheat is already in the new cs2 beta? Because I see and read forum posts about cheating that are saying it's even easier than in csgo, and forum posts and videos of old exploits that were long patched comming back in the cs2 beta.

@Snuusnuu69 Жыл бұрын

The vid said they let may have lets some things slip to collect more data.

@KillzFTW Жыл бұрын

Hey whats the instrumentals you played through the video

@CR0WYT Жыл бұрын

Not a big fan of trust factor since your account can get screwed over by people that report you just because. I had to make a new account simply because my first one had such a low trust factor due to my early CS experience being on a really bad laptop which caused my teammates to mass report me every other game.

@6thsense464 Жыл бұрын

You should have low trust factor if you ruin games because you have a shitty computer. Stop being selfish and dont play competitive with randoms if your computer is the problem.

@CR0WYT Жыл бұрын

@@6thsense464 there was no other way to play the game at the time. It was MM or nothing. Thankfully now unranked exist, but we needed that way long ago.

@NuKeRGG Жыл бұрын

I don't really care much about people who blatantly cheat, using aimbot/triggerbot etc.. Since it's obvious, I know they will eventually get banned and they're not fooling anyone. What scares me are the ones who simply use wallhack and are really good at hiding it. It's a lot harder to detect (even watching demos, if they're really good at hiding it) and the only option is really the AC actually detecting the cheat on the computer or smth... I'm 100% sure there have been cases even in the overwatch system, of players using wallhack, but they were so good at hiding it, they passed as "good players". And that's the other problem which makes it even worse.... When actual good/decent players, are the ones using wallhack and hiding it very well.. Those are the peak of the problem. A player can be really good at hiding wallhack... but suck at the game.. Which makes it suspicious.. You can usually tell those ones apart very easily, no matter how good they are at hiding their wallhack, either its their movement, gamesense etc... But when it's a good player using wallhack, and he's also really good at hiding that he's wallhacking... Well.. Those players are the real fucking cancer on CS:GO.

@coolissimo69 Жыл бұрын

You have a point however, the percentage of good players using cheats is much lesser than the noobs. Think mate if you are good player, do you really need cheats??? and risk you acc?? Nop. Other thing is using wallhacks, even if you good in hiding, you will do sus things, and the more you do the more likely you are a cheater. The part of Demos and OW is that players are not educated to determine if the guy is legit hacking or not. From my 10 years experience in CS, I find that people tends to avoid report players, sometimes you need to beg for them to report. If you good player you will not get reported for cheats as you think.

@David-rt5vj 4 ай бұрын

To the part with the Trustfactor. Im a good player and was Global/Supreme in csgo. Now in cs2 i played maaany mms like already 200-250. Even tho i have Skins for 4k$ many guys think im cheating and report me. Now im getting queued with Cheaters in Premiere and sometimes in MM even tho i am a good mate😢

@newjoe2010 Жыл бұрын

Nice video! FYI you're missing a "r" in Infrastructure

@Flo_GMR Жыл бұрын

Hope the Anticheat will work well

@WeallAreAdults Жыл бұрын

I really want to play cs again but the cheaters just always get to me man :) Hope it gets solved

@hobosnake1 Жыл бұрын

For what it's worth, I haven't had a cheater in any of my games since returning 3 weeks ago. I'm sure it's still a problem, but there's various factors. Maybe you just need to play a little and get your trust rating up or something. At the end of the day the cheater problem is huge. I don't blame you at all. Just saying, I think the influx of players new and coming back have brought the overall cheater levels down for now. I'm not sure what's happening but I've had good luck recently.

@moroccansexiledfromivao8653 Жыл бұрын

@@hobosnake1 Imagine saying to people to have a random thing like trust factor and blaming them at the same of the cheaters inside CS.

@gerhardjanssen6822 Жыл бұрын

@@moroccansexiledfromivao8653 trust factor isn't random tho, it's connected to the value of your steam account and how many hours you've put into it

@moroccansexiledfromivao8653 Жыл бұрын

@@gerhardjanssen6822 The stupidity of not having a good AC. It is trash, it is random and it is useless. Gaslighter saying that cheaters are related to trust factor is just that: gaslighting the experience of others.

@hobosnake1 Жыл бұрын

@@moroccansexiledfromivao8653 imagine being an idiot and posting a reply to a message you didn't even read all the way through.

@j.r.mocksly5996 Жыл бұрын

I must say, the trust factor implementation did really help with blatant cheaters. Over time I have seen waaay less of the insane over-the-top kinds of cheaters, when they used to be much more common a few years ago. But they haven't done anything on the "toggler" type of cheaters, or cheaters who really work to hide what they're doing. What I've noticed is, over time, crazy speed bot, aimbot noclip mode cheaters have largely starved and become rare in high trust factor mm, while the covert, toggling, really sleezy types of cheaters have thrived. So effectively they just swapped incentives but the number of cheaters did not go down, and may be at an all time high imo because the counter measures are well-known quantities. Hopefully the new vac idea works as intended

@Yassen2828 Жыл бұрын

The problem is that it's hard to tell who actually cheats. If they're really good at hiding it then there's only a few clues that can help you identify it like timing, situational awareness or certain types of kills. For me, I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt but I've become so paranoid that it's hard to even tell who's actually completely cracked off their mind and who's using external software. Even though this AI anti-cheat has promise I'm not getting my hopes up until I see it in action.

@j.r.mocksly5996 Жыл бұрын

@@Yassen2828 Same here. I've found it's more rare to encounter a cracked player than just a regular cheater, they're more common, but it can be really hard to tell at times. Other times there's some pretty obvious giveaways, but most people can't spot them. Rank plays a huge part as well, as the higher rank you go the more cheaters you will run into and they'll be harder to distinguish.

@alper9089 Жыл бұрын

Nice video!

@mummz3371 Жыл бұрын

CS2 is going to break the internet

@LittleBoyRebel Жыл бұрын

They need to make a own server for Russians only! Let's seperate them even more!

@ok-mx1mi Жыл бұрын

I hope they do, its incredibly annoying to play every game with russians

@LittleBoyRebel Жыл бұрын

@@ok-mx1mi specially when they are toxic af D:

@SavingSoulsMinistries Жыл бұрын

I played csgo religiously from 2015-2018. Then I just stopped playing it for 5 or 6 years.. didn’t care about it at all.. I took a day or two to play a couple matches a couple months ago.. now I’m completely obsessed with it like I did back then. I’m happy about that because no other game really held my attention for long periods of time.. Halo Mcc was the closest thing . I just bought a legit monitor so I can live stream with little background noise such as loud laptop fans and what not. Out of all avenues of life.. my favorite place to preach is cs casual . The responses are endlessly entertaining and it gets the Job done ✅ thank you Valve and CSGo

@mpolae1631 Жыл бұрын

My biggest cheater problem is with wingman, there is no overwatch or replay so a lot of people just straight up cheat with 100% headshot accuracy at like 16 kills is legit ridiculous. And it seems Valve is not gonna change anything for that mode.

@username---------- Жыл бұрын

Why do people even hack must be hardly any fun at all

@ok-mx1mi Жыл бұрын

Depends on the game. Its fun af for the first week then it feels like playing without cheats.

@xoperion1337 Жыл бұрын

Its more fun than you think

@mgtowgaming8070 Жыл бұрын

Valve has been using machine learning for years already, CS2 won't change much, just better graphics for cheaters. Even the massive anticheat update last year didn't ban any of my accounts. I go ultra blatant most games and still have green trust on every account.

@rubenbernal7933 Жыл бұрын

Loser

@jcsrb Жыл бұрын

Love that “Olofmesiter” guy

@rockedvideo947 Жыл бұрын

I think i have to buy a new mouse. I have a rat 7 and once every few games my mouse does a 360 move and i have to blow on the Sensor because its full of dust. I hope that those things wont get you banned, because i bet, that there are more players with that problem. In the past i already was afraid that this would get me Vac´d

@creationsdolly Жыл бұрын

u probably fine

@Ryan_scott15 Жыл бұрын

With an ai ban system valve needs to have an appeal process

@ceriol Жыл бұрын

Depends on how the AI system works, if it detects e.g. inhuman pixel adjustments (a human cannot see, 1px is enough) and you have multiple moments of it in one game, then it is 100% sure that an aim hack is used. Also it has been showed that it is possible to create an "unique profile" for your play style within 2hours playtime with the help of AI (it can also check game recordings that happend long time ago), i.e. once you cheated and the new system detects it, you get banned and you cannot play a csgo game every again. You need to keep in mind, that an AI can learn things and detect patterns that are never possible to see by us human.

@_Tao__ Жыл бұрын

Thats the thing AI anyichwat wouldn't insta ban anyone suspicious just the ones that are 100% cheating and AI is very fucking good at that

@viraloracle5151 Жыл бұрын

no we are ready for "collateral damage" anything to get rid of cheaters.

@capn Жыл бұрын

Not really. AI is getting pretty good and if it gets to be as good as human reviewers, who still make mistakes by the way, there's no need

@marcedoreste 9 ай бұрын

This aged like milk

@tynomite Жыл бұрын

Being a legit badass at CS feels incredible. I’m not a badass anymore but i played cal-im on 1.6 and cal-m on source. Life happened. But I keep up with this shit almost being 30 years old now. Sometimes it’s hard to distinguish between a cheater and a well oiled player or team. Since crosshair placement is key

@BlaacHollow Жыл бұрын

Valve saying it's ending cheats is like Gaben the fat pig not eating chocolate bars anymore.... Not going to happen.

@geneivy Жыл бұрын

Would be really nice if we had a frindlieness score in the game, so that toxic players play with other toxic players, and adequate ones don't have to deal with that.

@Adam2077. Жыл бұрын

Great thing would be to capture a few screenshots during gameplay to check for any visual cheats by the new AI anticheat system.

@cyanogen7582 Жыл бұрын

Screenshots have been a thing for a long time. Cheats have already countered this tactic with anti screenshot tech.

@xoperion1337 Жыл бұрын

You clearly dont understand how screenshots work. Atleast in CSGO they take a picture of the player's server side. Unless it takes a picture directly from the game, its not gonna detect it. And even then, just hook the ESP to an overlay like discord and boom you have wallhacks while the game looks 100% clean. So easy to bypass.

@creationsdolly Жыл бұрын

pretty much anything that is done on a suspects computer can be circumvented by the suspect. the most effective anticheat is serverside. if you want the best anticheat system ever, create a game where you don't fight enemies, all movement is handled serverside, and you aren't allowed to aim because thats unfair.

@m0dp1g21 Жыл бұрын

Valve being the data loving company they are, surely keeping the overwatch system would be invaluable for training their new AI anticheat model? Give the tester a yes, no and maybe box, give the tester the same 'what cheat were they using' options as normal, and feed that data into the new anticheat AI.

@Littlefighter1911 Жыл бұрын

2:45 "It's nice that you can speak the same language as others" *Confused Europe noises*

@starfox300 Жыл бұрын

They could fix the cheating issue if you had to verify your personal ID/passport to play competitive. People would be really scared to lose their only chance of playing the game

@beefwellington480 Жыл бұрын

So if the network gets hacked like sonys did they get literally all your info.

@starfox300 Жыл бұрын

@@beefwellington480 There are billions of people on this planet. Nobody cares that your name is Hugh Jazz and you live in 69 Muffin Lane

@beefwellington480 Жыл бұрын

@@starfox300 so all the shit you say is dumb?

@chloethebitch7780 Жыл бұрын

The universe is trillions upon trillions of years old and somehow you managed to type out the single worst possible take in its entire history

@starfox300 Жыл бұрын

@@chloethebitch7780 enjoy getting your cheeks clapped by cheaters

@hashbrownz1999 Жыл бұрын

As the saying goes, "better 100 murderers to roam free than for 1 innocent man to be put away for murder" It is far more important for VAC to never throw away a non cheater than it is for it to catch the majority.

@kazsmaz Жыл бұрын

Id rather they catch 100 cheaters and 1 smurf.

@ben2474 Жыл бұрын

Would be infinitely easier if Valve just made a kernel-level anticheat like Valorant. Would seriously change the cheating situation. People need to either be willing to have that or be accepting of the fact they will have a much higher cheater rate.

@tappajaav Жыл бұрын

@@ben2474 Could have multiple ques if having intrusive anticheat splits the community. I'd happily take the cheat-free one.

@alexbissessur5013 Жыл бұрын

@@ben2474 I'm 99% sure that will not happen. CS2 is a product of Valve, who also sell the Steam Deck. The Deck (and many other Steam users, myself included) use Linux. It would lead to a lot more work on their behalf just to gain a slight edge, and compatibility will be very hard to achieve.

@port8903 Жыл бұрын

@@ben2474😂😂😂 everything that needs access to ur kernel is straight up retarded

@Sam-zw2kp Жыл бұрын

3:28 where are these clips from? source pls

@ohdamiable 8 ай бұрын

Cant wait for them to implement some of these systems.

@VFW-Mayer Жыл бұрын

By removing the structured tick update at specific intervals they have allowed the servers to better detect a cheater's update tick. I like a lot! Genius!

@MrBenfica1904 Жыл бұрын

systems are made to cheat, theres no way there will be no cheaters

@youreyesarebleeding1368 Жыл бұрын

I just wanna say, buying the Steam Deck boosted my trust factor by an INSANE amount. Like, the quality of games I get now is unreal. I just recently got back into the game, and I have played like 40 MM games since I came back, and every game has had teammates with mics, no griefing, not a single cheater, and not even a single sus player. I kept thinking to myself, "is this really CS:GO? Am I just having a dream right now?" Previously, I tried getting back into the game like 1-2 years ago, but I just kept getting blatant cheaters in MM, people griefing, etc. and it was just very obvious that I had below average trust factor. Since then, I have gotten my 5 year coin for CS on this account, bought the steam deck, and played a lot of singleplayer/casual games on my account. So hey, if you already want a steam deck, this is definitely an added benefit that you might get once you buy it. I love my steam deck, I've probably spent 500 hours on it since I got it last July.

@starfox300 Жыл бұрын

Is steam deck using a different MM?

@youreyesarebleeding1368 Жыл бұрын

@starfox300 No, the steam deck is a PC. I don't play cs:go on the steam deck and I wouldn't really recommend it. It is just known that trust factor is influenced by your actions on Steam as a whole, not just CS:GO, so if you drop money on something like the Valve Index or Steam Deck, it probably thinks you are less likely to cheat

@swagslime23 Жыл бұрын

@@youreyesarebleeding1368 thats just not true

@batngovlchua 10 ай бұрын

Funniest thing is Valve blocked 3rd party softwares like OBS but can't do anything to deal with those cheaters or block cheating softwares.

@imxnoobx Жыл бұрын

Nothing will change when most cheat developers know more than the actual game developers

@never_die2285 Жыл бұрын

@atb614 Жыл бұрын

I don't want better anticheat I need a reason for why we lost

@boojaballs Жыл бұрын

then get leetify

@phimosis. Жыл бұрын

they only have a server in spain, and that is in madrid and a lot of times gives out the server is under high load (imo, they ahould put one in albacete 😎)

@jbusiness6567 10 ай бұрын

I have been around the CS community since the early years of 1.6 & I’m Praying 🙏 valve can make CS a cheater free game.. That would be amazing. I also hope they can focus on other issues like allowing globally muted players to queue a mm match. If someone is globally muted they are a “troll”/toxic & don’t deserve to queue a match until the global muted ban is lifted. Also a game should end if someone leaves the game and doesn’t come back within a time frame. It’s completely unfair to have people join & just quit the game & we still have to play that out. The extra income doesn’t cut it after 4 minutes of waiting… People need to just accept the reality of level they play at. Cheats are not the way!

@Linda- Жыл бұрын

laughs in kernel driver aim assist

@Linda- Жыл бұрын

@@RabbitConfirmed trust factor issue, quite honestly - or you simply misjudge better players for cheaters

@shallex5744 Жыл бұрын

i don't get it, that wouldn't matter at all for an AI-based cheat detection system if your cheat was in the kernel or not

@Linda- Жыл бұрын

@@shallex5744 VACNet autobanned spinners for the first time in 2022, it launched in 2016 or 2017. You can still blatantly cheat without having to worry about getting banned, and that will not magically change with CS2. By the time VACNet will be able to detect humanized aim assist, our grandchildren will be playing the game

@ytbusernamelol Жыл бұрын

kernel level brain, thats all you need

@jennalove6755 Жыл бұрын

ML dont care where your downloaded skill is installed

@drizz1744 Жыл бұрын

Cheaters aren't that common anymore. It used to be worse in 2016 or so, in the past year I've come accross maybe 10 people that I am confident were cheating. 1 was spinbotting. I think people just want to complain and have an excuse for losing sometimes. Certainly doesn't effect me or anyone that I know on a daily basis. Of course there are people in my group of friends that constantly complain about someone on the other team every game who is just better than them.

@stanky. Жыл бұрын

cheating is still a big issue but if you play in high trust, especially in populated regions like EU, you wont find many as most cheaters play in low green or red trust in high ranks

@cyko5950 Жыл бұрын

I think the issue is people are not confident in vac so even if someone is just good they will still think its closet cheating combined with unfair matchmaking the issue gets amplified

@vlozity Жыл бұрын

If you are in a continent that only connects to Chinese servers you will see how big the cheater community is. I have this player tagged who has every known cheat enabled when he plays, you can't even report him as the account name is different from the player name every time you try and report him.

@drizz1744 Жыл бұрын

@@stanky. exactly. So it’s working fine, there’s no reason for you to have low trust factor

@drizz1744 Жыл бұрын

@@vlozity that sounds like a perfect world cs problem. Not like that anywhere else

@thomashines100 Жыл бұрын

A more apt title would be "ways that valve COULD solve cheating in CS GO 2" since this was mostly speculation

@staxrelax4146 Жыл бұрын

That's Valve's response to VAC not working

@S4NSE Жыл бұрын

With subtick - AC will be easily be able to tell if someones is cheating with help of Vacnets machine learning I feel like

@xoperion1337 Жыл бұрын

no lmao. It will not improve a little bit. Its just a money grab

@S4NSE Жыл бұрын

@@xoperion1337 it definetely will

@joeykenoy Жыл бұрын

Yeah TF had to be updated. When I played some games with lower rank friends in Wingman, I got a deep red TF for a while. I think that had to do with enemies reporting me. It is very annoying, because in every ranked mode I had to wait forever to find a game... BUT only thing to get the green TF back is playing. xD

@moviesnow2306 Жыл бұрын

Bro I’ve been facing so many hackers, specially in the map, Mirage, Every game has over two cheaters, both sides, sometimes without hackers the game becomes super easy, but again hackers buy more accounts and cheat more, if they block the system with the IP address, so none of the accounts work on that platform, then the cheating will be terminated, That’s the best advice to Valve!!

@ok-mx1mi Жыл бұрын

Only takes 3 minutes to bypass ip ban, thats not a fix

@xoperion1337 Жыл бұрын

He is clearly retarded

@creationsdolly Жыл бұрын

@@ok-mx1mi i can do it in under 10 seconds lol

@ok-mx1mi Жыл бұрын

@@creationsdolly are you dumb? Obviously meant people that dont even have vpn or anything

@beuhthesecond8021 Жыл бұрын

I love that red trust factor exists, i like hvhing in mm...

@HeLLxGodLike Жыл бұрын

these days in csgo mostly people are hacking and the best excuse they give is "bruh i am smurf" and then next week boom vac ban

@sparksterknight1993 Жыл бұрын

I cant wait to try cs2.. whenever I get a good pc that can actually run ir

@Bassalicious Жыл бұрын

I've heard performance in CS2 is supposedly so good that it's better than or equal to CSGO in some cases while looking much much better. But idk how true that is. Source2 is definitely a big step forward and Valve does have potato PCs in mind - CS2 is meant to be an e-sport title after all.

@bladaid9093 Жыл бұрын

2:54 this is a good feature but if they region lock you players in the caribbean get stuck with all the spanish players and now they have to learn a whole new language. While i get 64 ping in SA i get 78 avg in NA. Region locking can be good and bad as some may lose by gaining a language barrier with little ping increase and others just gain in general

@Dewmino Жыл бұрын

I’m pumped for cs2

@DivineCloakGaming Жыл бұрын

You can also get commends which makes your trust factor to increase

@kerwinbren Жыл бұрын

This is a good thing.. the reason i quit csgo around 4 years ago is that It's hard to play competitive when around 50% or even more of your games includes cheaters... not just against but even within your team

@EriXofficial Жыл бұрын

Sad to hear but understandable tjat so many clean players quit cs because of valve putting so less effort in the cheating problem.

@cast6941 Жыл бұрын

I just got back into cs and I came across so many cheaters i just couldn’t play it anymore but I’m trying to stick to it till they get this new ani cheat comes out and I hope it’s soon

@danielpickrell8311 Жыл бұрын

Lately I would only notice 1 to 2 hackers every 2-3 games. Some players are good that it seems like they are hacking. It takes me 3-4 kill cam reviews to actually see that they are hacking. And once they get called out the leave the match. Just report and keep reporting.

@oswaldmensin5283 9 ай бұрын

Playing CS2 on launch, Cheaters are rampant, alive and well. Shot in the head through smoke and walls, first bullet fire. Repeated repeated repeated

@gonzo7758 Жыл бұрын

"How Valve is fixing the Cheater problem in CS2" "Please do not cheat."

@gregorianeg5311 Жыл бұрын

Thousands of csgo hours 125+ games on steam still being matched with cheaters

@bearlogg7974 Жыл бұрын

The first months of CS2 will be a bloodbath

@skid9985 Жыл бұрын

Skeet taking note

@kwaygz 10 ай бұрын

You were wrong my friend!

@harrisonclark4140 Жыл бұрын

I’m lem and haven’t noticed any cheaters in over a year

@igorfb618 Жыл бұрын

Very nice vid and pacing. Hope them cheaters will be done. P.S. Little advice: use an izotope rx de-mouth-clicker for your voice so we all will not hear your saliva louder than your voice anymore xD

@TheAbbeyoftheEveryman Жыл бұрын

What awp skin is that in the thumbnail

@HazardousJohn1 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't exist in the game. Most probably it's custom

@kingeling Жыл бұрын

"Infastructure" aight man

@baliorne Жыл бұрын

Is this why I been getting more cheaters in my games recently, they tryna get that last kick of dopamine in before they run the new anti cheat

@xoperion1337 Жыл бұрын

The new anti-cheat, while more restricitve, will eventually be bypassed. There already are undetected cheats for CS2 Dont expect much

@TheName123456789 Жыл бұрын

As long as they don't decide to make a cernel level anti cheat which makes sure that your privacy and security is completely destroyed then it's a good start.

@pikie1011 Жыл бұрын

Trust factor is fantastic if you are a long time player and is a reason I stick around CS. Playing casual games without trust factor exposes you do how bad it is when you don't have it. I can't remember the last time I came across a cheater in my competitive games and I don't want to play a competitive game that does not have a similar system in place. Anything new should be built in addition to and around this system.

@Bobbiesgonewild Жыл бұрын

I scout main dust 2 needless to say I have pretty not great trust factor :/ so that coupled with basically only playing dust 2 I see so many cheaters in game

@kingflorian Жыл бұрын

how does cs not already have dedicated servers?

@benkr Жыл бұрын

dedicated servers for different regions? im at a loss what thats supposed to mean, this has been the case for ages?

@hugopfeffer4175 Жыл бұрын

I understood as the same as in valorant. Wanna play on a different server than yours? Create an account for that server and boom. Basically the player base is binded to that specific server.

@elvistrumpet Жыл бұрын

@@hugopfeffer4175 this actually sucks for me, I live in asia and now I won't escape the Chinese cheaters even if I try.

@DoomWarrior55 Жыл бұрын

@@elvistrumpet it’s unfair for people you play against when you have 130 ping and headshot them before they even see you come around the corner

@elvistrumpet Жыл бұрын

@@DoomWarrior55 I say that having high ping gives you way more disadvantages than advantages, but I guess it comes down to play style and what you're used to. I never like playing with high ping, but it's still what I'd choose over cheaters.

@dangeloortiz8281 Жыл бұрын

Tingly asf! Lets go

@kezif Жыл бұрын

Hey valve, we have really nice place to try your new anticheat stuff - tf2

@kevinagostinello9968 Жыл бұрын

I remember messing with a mod menu in a private match in GtAv and Fortnite EastAnti cheat caught the mod loader since the launcher was open and banned my fortnite account, haven’t touched anything relating to “cheating” since, not worth it