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Hey warning, your thumbnail is completely off base. Not even by a little bit. The number "86,163km" genuinely means nothing as the tears of the kingdom map doesn't reach that distance in any possible direction. You might have meant kilometers squared "km^2" as through a google search of "tears of the kingdom map size" that is the first result that shows up.

You heard the man pin him.

As of today, UE 5.3 update completely solved the problem for open-worlds

That makes sense, cause the far-away textures still look incredible, so i wondered if it was more then just some thrown around pngs

So basically it’s Parallax Mapping ?

billboards in game dev are exactly what u described, images facing the camera

Yes thank you!! I don't understand why so many content creators talk about things they haven't researched, like don't talk about things you don't know!

And Id software removed it in Doom Eternal.

@@NahorCA Thank god for that too. 2016 is aging rather poorly visually thanks to megatextures.

i had the same thought, that was the problem with amd cards back in the days, because it looked like a swampy texture.

@@noodleman4555 Same thing with Wolfenstein: The New Order and its prequel.

it does actually mention it, impostors are basically billboards at it's core. As of lod he doesn't mention HLods and other type of tech around LODs, it's kinda unnecessary in a general explanation video.

not even close to as bad as alot of mainstream ytbers

how is this clickbait? people really taking issue with informative videos now, then proceed to eat up the mindless clickbait everywhere else on the site.

@@aquaarmour4924 its annoying clickbait

Hardware limitations. It's the same reason you can't load an entire 150G video game into your 32G of memory all at once. How are you watching this and not understanding that already?

@@darrennew8211 Calling someone out for not understanding the video while failing to understand the joke reference... well done.

@@cormano64 Fair enough. I guess the quote marks should have given it away.

UE5 isn't getting rid of LODs; it's just abstracting them so the user doesn't need to manually handle it anymore. Nanite, under-simplified, is an automatic LOD manager.

@@DaSquyd Despite how crazy under simplified that simplification of Nanite is its a great way to explain it.

Nanite is still not there yet though as just using it will make your game have higher specs requirement

@@yesno1085 That is true, but it also allows your game to scale much better. Traditional techniques keep up well enough with Nanite until we scale up the distance and number of assets.

@@DaSquyd Yeah, but Nanite also handles super-high-poly meshes much better than traditional LODs. If you put 50 million-poly spheres in a level without Nanite, your PC will crash, while Nanite doesn't even break a sweat.

Click bait yaaay

For real. No explanation whatsoever

It shouldn't be possible to render everything in real time, and it isn't. Instead, it's rendered using LODs and other optimization tricks.

@@johnnydarling8021 That’s already been covered on the channel with this and other games. The “shouldn’t be” isn’t explained or contextualized in how TOTK uses it. Some examples I know from playing the game myself: everything underneath sky islands use low LoD, or how the chasms into the depth are used to allow the game load in the map, or how green space of recall creates a sort of wormhole to load in the next area. It’s easy to recognize when a video is simply filler to make sure the channel doesn’t get dumped by the KZfaq algorithm. Ironically enough, I comment to support engagement

Yep. Down vote it for clickbait nonsense.

UE5 basicly have a system that create LODs itself based on the camera view, angles of the polygons and the pixels of the screen. It's as unnotisable as it can get and you don't have to create LODs yourself.

Hardware limitations. You don't have infinite memory and infinite compute speed. It's the same reason it isn't possible for a 150 gig game to just load into your RAM all at once.

@@darrennew8211 I still fail to see why using LODs shouldn't be possible

@@sventomasek LODs make possible the thing that shouldn't be possible, which is to have a massive world all visible at once or bunches of AIs all active at once. (I admit it never occurred to me that the other things he mentions would have LODs too.) Just like saying "running a 100-gig program on a computer with 32-gig of RAM shouldn't be possible." But we invented demand paging, so now it's possible.

@@darrennew8211 With Nanite you can have a million million-poly assets in a level and it won't destroy performance. Also comes with zero pop-in. Clearly something isn't being done right with traditional LODs.

@@temotskipuri3151 It's called "progress".

Nanite is automatic LODs.

Nanite is automatic LOD.

@@darrennew8211 Not really, Nanite doesn't use LOD at all. It's completly different system. One of the advantages, among others, of this system is that it does not have to load complete object models but only parts of them. Thus if you see for example 1px of a rock you don't have to load the whole rock as with the LOD system

@@Lamas236 That's cool. I didn't know it was even more sophisticated. I figured it was just calculating LOD on demand, but I guess eventually it gets different enough you can no longer call it LOD. And it makes sense they'd do that, given how it seems to be commonly used, with lots of overlapping geometry.

There's not really any good alternative, the only reason why games can have so many high-poly assets in them is because it the engine never has to load all of them at once. Swapping assets to a lower LOD is barely an inconvenience to any modern engine.

You still should use a combination of both in your game each depending on the asset

Well, those are made in real time, so you should still do so as not making any at all makes it take TONS of power.

Often for environments specifically tiling textures are used because with a small texture you can cover large amounts of space. Obviously tiling isn't great and sometimes it's really noticeable. Megatextures are basically a texture atlas at it's core but it's also a giant texture (that's why they are called that) with zero tiling

The title is misleading, making people think this video is about some revolutionary tech when in reality it's just something very simple which we've been doing for many years. I would also argue that it isn't possible to render a fully detailed world, since using LODs makes it a very undetailed world. The thumbnail is also misleading, as TOTK is not 86,163 kilometers in height. His intention was clearly to clickbait, because most people already know about LODs and wouldn't have clicked on the video if they knew it's just LODs.

​@@AliasA1 Where did I say the video was wrong? I said the title and thumbnail are misleading and clickbait, which they clearly are. If the title was something like "How games render such big worlds with ease", more like his previous videos it would have been fine and explained what the video is about, but this title doesn't explain anything and is purely used to farm clicks, same with the thumbnail with misinformation. Nowhere in the video did he say that it shouldn't be possible to render all of this at once, which makes it sound like the title is referring to LODs (the only thing he talks about in the video), but using LODs should and definitely is 100% possible. If you think the title and thumbnail are not clickbait, sorry but you're coping hard.

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Also consider that many people already have this basic information, especially his audience, I don't know why he's doing this.

@@FesterThanLight i cant speak on behalf of everyone but i havent learned anything new from his past couple videos. was wondering if anyone else felt the same

You can already tell 10 seconds into the video that it's going to be about LOD

hes trying to upload content thats quickly put together so the algorithm doesn't drop him lmaoo