Hi Hazel. I have been playing WOW nonstop since 2007. What I don't like about the professions now is that many of the recipes require sparks. That severely limits not only leveling up, but being able to make the full set of gear. Not to mention that it is overly complicated for many, including the casual player. You used to be able to craft gear that was relevant to you as you leveled up and was usable. Now, by the time that you get enough mats/sparks to make something, you already have better gear from other sources. The professions now favor the "professional player" types of players and leaves the rest of us behind.

Problems w/ DF crafting: -Starting late means being behind forever -System is confusing and it’s literally possible to SOFTLOCK urself. I did this twice on an alt -Quality ranking take up x3 the space, barely affect it, and stupidly enough, for things like vendors you actually only want Q2 not Q3 for buying transmogs and the like -Everything needs sparks which makes it harder to craft and catch up as well -artisan mettle is divided extremely unfairly and soul bound. I have over 6000 on herbalist and have no use for it

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DF's profession issues were simple fixes that never got addressed. Public work orders sucked, all they had to do was give the same options available to private orders. Other issues were recipes, such as Elemental Lariat which became near impossible to obtain as content became dated creating server monopolies. Also the lack of catchup mechanics behind trade skill talent points, there was also the issue of certain talents being required for easy skill progression early on, which caused alot of people to semi softlock the grind accidentally.

Honestly what dragonflight did with professions and materials has made me care less about professions as a whole. Carrying around an insane amount of different quality materials is just not worth it at all, and extremely unfun if you're at any point fallen behind on profession points.

For the Remix unique Weapon transmogs, Wowhead has an article showing off what zones drop what. There's some unused and gorgeous weapons like the Jinyu Flamberge or the Wallwatcher 2h Axes the Shado Pan use. Taoshi's Sais are in multiple colors, etc too. The article is called "Weapon Transmogs Exclusive to MoP Remix - Farming Guide and Zone Drops". Had been looking all week for a nice drop-list instead of looking at each item individually.

Dragonflight was the first time I didn’t max out my professions. The new system is needlessly complicated without anymore reward. Having different levels of materials, as well as having to get gear, all to craft the same things that are barely profitable, isn’t fun or worthwhile. If they’re going to make it this complicated, they should at least make the crafted gear more reliable and on par with the highest gear you can get otherwise.

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Since very late Vanilla, when I started playing, one of the things I got into quite a bit was PROFESSIONS. I found that it was nice to be able to make not only my own things, but stuff for friends (and later, guildies). While professions have always had some issues, I began to see that as they added more and more complexity, it became less fun. The level system in Legion was annoying, the stupid amount of BoP items in BFA (not allowing NON-RAIDING toons to make things, even if a main non-crafter raided a LOT) which COULD have been fixed with BoA mats. The dumb legendary system in SL (you can't even DISENCHANT the lower items you NEED to make to LEARN next higher level, and unless you got into it early, you couldn't even GIVE THEM AWAY). BUT late SL non-Legendary crafting was pretty great, as was the WoD system of very useful and upgradeable gear - though if they had missives for stats, it would have been pretty near perfect. So, now we come to Dragonflight. There is so much wrong with the profession system right now. It's so convoluted that MOST people I know have not only NOT maxed it (with the exception of SKILL for gatherers) but have completely lost interest. It's overly complicated, introducing a bunch of brand new STATS (especially if you are both gathering AND crafting - you need to know both), but the huge knowledge system, with very little EXTRA ways to get it, tying the work order to advancement (work order should have simply been an convenient way for people to get stuff made, and should simply have been a part of the AH system, allowing people to put in work orders). Even when you MAX both skill and knowledge, if you don't have THE BEST equipment, you will NOT be able to make the best stuff. And as is with the history of WoW, MOST people WILL want the BEST STUFF. The public work order is VERY limited, not allowing you to do rework, not able to put in quality as a condition, and not making it easy for CRAFTERS to see work orders when they are up. Also, you can't even condition the BEST quality because even if the crafter CAN make it, it won't allow them to take it. Also, you should be able to see (WITHOUT having the mats) what adding mats (such as crests, sparks, missives) whether or not you'll be able to succeed in making top quality items. In fact, you should be able to see it on professionals (or at the VERY LEAST, in the guild roster, under professions). Also, METTLE should have been BoA. To have one toon need it quite a lot (Tailor/Enchanter) and another hardly EVER need it (herbalist/skinner) is stupid. I play both toons. I should be able to use whatever my toon gets, no matter which one. (HOPEFULLY this is fixed with warbands). This is also a pretty awful system for people who want to just make things for their GUILD and put them in the bank, as I used to do. While I hated the Legendary system in SL, I really liked the general crafting once we got into Zereth Mortis. For me to make people some gear (say, they hit 60, or just got back into the game), without sparks or crests, or really, anything from the recipient, I was able to craft things for them. I put the embellishments in the bank so if any crafter wanted to make things not only for themselves, but for other guild members, they could. I also dislike having to get ODD FACTION reputation up. I really just wanted the Frozen Spellthread, but wasn't able to always find groups for Cobalt Assembly and ended up either soloing it or trying to find another person there, so we could kill things faster. Also, too many of the recipes for items in demand are WORLD DROPS. I feel like the whole system was created to get people to buy gold, to get their crafting up ASAP, buy rare recipes from the AH all to get ahead. Very much sucks for people who simply want to be able to provide for themselves, their alts, friends and guild, with gear or consumables. At one time, the guild used to be able to afford to give people mats to level, especially when only SKILL was needed. And then we'd provide mats, and then everyone in the guild would have access to things like cut gems, pots, enchants. (Most enchants, a spellthread and bags are able to be provided since I actually took the time and energy to level my tailoring and enchanting - no one else in the guild finds it fun - just confusing, and have mostly given up on it). Also, it's SEASON 4. For heaven's sake, just give everyone a huge knowledge catch up already!!! The people who got there ahead of everyone else already made a bunch of gold. Let alts, latecomers, and those who FINALLY figured out somewhat, how the profession works, get into it. (Also, having the professions explained when people are NOWHERE NEAR ready to use it is stupid. I didn't remember anything about illustrious insights, etc., when I actually NEEDED that information - there was just SOO MUCH to try to understand. That information should have come when had a certain amount of knowledge and skill). Even if they are easing up on certain things, adding ANOTHER LAYER of difficulty (even RARER items - I've spent SO MUCH DAMN GOLD on things like Awakened items. I've NEVER had to spend this much gold on either consumables OR material as I have in this expansion, unless you count the ridiculous amount I spent being able to make ONE piece of Legendary gear at max, in SL, only to rarely use it) that I don't think it'll make profession fun or compelling for ANYONE who didn't get into it in Dragonflight.

Based on these comments, I guess I'm in the minority but I absolutely love what professions are now. I hope they're able to nail down the importance of all qualities of materials so that things like gathering don't die immediately, but I think the new professions are a great baseline that could be truly amazing after a few more iterations. It seems like a lot of people here just decided "this is complicated" from the jump and never actually interacted with the system even though it's really not that bad and is pretty intuitive once you start interacting with it. They managed to make crafted gear important and relevant throughout the entire expansion, and I think that was the main goal. I make plenty of gold through crafting to this day. Just gotta socialize a bit.

Praying this helps. I feel like dragon flight ended professionals and hardly anyone but bots are making solid gold from them. And being a crafter is more an annoyance without solid personal perks than a convenience.

The Remix weapon appearances exclusive to LFR are the hardest to earn, from my experience. LFR only drops one piece of gear (as opposed to Normal, Heroic, and Mythic which drop two pieces); and not only are multiple tier sets on the loot table, but also the original weapon appearances from MoP raids.

Kira heard you start recording and had to be a part of the video.

DF killed my interest in professions. They made it overly complicated, it wasn't worth the time. I switched my guys to gathering and sold everything.

I'm really annoyed with the cosmetics. When I purchase them from a vendor and learn them sometimes some are grayed out (reded?) and other times they aren't. So I go on all of my remix characters, buy a few sets, click on them, and then see if I have already learned them before and if I have then I just refund them. It gets confusing over several characters knowing where I had left off and what I do and do not own. I feel like I have bought a set before and it never registered and I relearn it. The whole thing has become a real pain. The mounts are fine, they gray (red) out, it's only the cosmetics that don't seem to register properly.

Macro prismatic bauble into blade dance on your DH's. It's glorious.

As a guy who had pretty much all professions since vanilla. I hate this system. It sucks you need to be active in /2 like that to earn gold. The different rank of material is also crazy idea, takes up tripple the space. And for the skills. They could make it more obvious what benefits you get from spending points in the skill trees.

One minor chance that i have wanted for professions since the start: Option to choose minimum quality for public orders or force refund if someone scams you. I have always written "I need this on high quality" (if i found no one to do personal order) and each time someone with low crafting skill crafts it and i lose the good materials and gold.

TY for the Trove add-on recco. This is super helpful! Also love Connections. I play the NYT games too.

Thanks!

As someone who has just come back to wow after 6ish years and is currently grappling with DF professions I massively agree with the points you made about the current system being stacked against anyone who's not been on top of it since 10.0.

Always enjoy your take on WoW developments/patches/fixes And love the cohost kitty.

it brightens my day to see you, gets my saturday going

Most of my elderly friends have stopped crafting in df, never quite getting the hang of it. I hated the lack if garanteed quality, the poor return unless you had a rare recipe or spammed trade chat ie don't play but loved the quests. I hope for a simpler system, more standard AH sales and a way to know who is a crafter of what so you can order from them. Also hated the number if player asking for very expensive items with fees not covering mats: scammers!

I was wondering professions at this exact moment and found a 13min old fresh video lol

Thanks for another informative update 😄💯

I hate professions now. I used to like doing all of them between my main and alts, but I didn't even max out my main's professions this expansion. Professions are now overly complicated and use too many different levels of mats. Being tied to crafting tables is and has always been annoying. They should have followed FFXIV's model where you have crafting stations but you can do crafting anywhere and they got rid of different levels of mats because it became too overwhelming. MoP Remix was a good idea but the execution was just a mess. A list of all the transmogs and where you get them without having to rely on an addon would have been nice. Thanks for the heads up about Trove Tally addon!

As someone who was one of the first or second max weaponsmiths on my server group, I loved the system. Made about 4m on low commissions season 1 alone. I became known to other guilds and would get randoms messaging me for crafts and login to pending orders about every other day. I got to know a lot more people and had great experiences with them. The only people I know that were against the crafting system could hardly describe how it worked. The system was great in general, ppl who think otherwise had a skill issue. In professions.

@Hazelnuttygames Thanks for answering my question, Hazel! :)

Overall crafting is frustrating. I spent roughly 2 hours yesterday leveling an alt from 0 to 300 in classic tailoring after spending the same amount of time just getting 6 knowledge points for DF.

Question for Remix: Is it better to have 1 +++Stamina gem or 2 +++ gems? How's the hard numbers shake out on these?

Thank you for all your knowledge and general discussion of wow. I have played wow since the beginning of WOTLK and have learned so much from you! Keep up the great work!! And I must have that chicken backpack!!!!

I don't understand why there isn't a pet vendor for all of the MoP pets like the mounts and toys. p.s. It would be nice if bronze used for gear upgrades could be refunded. so I could upgrade now then scrap it at the end and buy what I wanted instead of having to choose....

Connections is my jam :)

Professions have honestly just made gearing a headache for me on alts. First I got to go get the sparks, then I have to go get the crests to then send to someone to make it into an item i can use for crafted gear. Then i have to find what is good for my spec, now i have to choose between making a piece for raid or for M+ or for pvp, then 2 weeks later I have to do it all over again. Then the next season comes around and now I have to find another person to create the awakened crest and find someone specific who can recraft my existing crafted items. Then the dilemma of do I make a pvp piece or do I make a raid/M+ piece arises. Am i suposed to just say sorry guys I can't upgrade my pvp crafted piece until week 6 of the season so ill just have to deal with two piece of gear being 40+ ilvls lower. Its the same problem we have had for many many seasons with the great vault just even more annoying because crafted gear hold so much power. That is also even ignoring that alot of people play different specs, dragonflight is extremely alt friendly if you play a singular spec in a single form of content. If you even remotely dabble between specs/roles professions become a massive thorn that makes it not enjoyable for me at least. Sure by two or three months in you can get all the crafted pieces you need but that still feels awful playing at a disadvantage or making your group weaker as a whole because of forced time gating. The time in wow when crafting was good was when you bought the mats sent them to someone and they made you the piece of gear and that was it. The only limiting factor was having the gold to buy the mats or the time to farm them yourself not some time gated system that screws over people who enjoy playing more then a minigame style content end game and want to do EVERYTHING.

Material quality is something I wish they would get rid of. Everyone complained about it on forums the entire xpac, and now its going to be even more difficult to get max rank mats? 😢

I went ahead and used alts I needed to get heritage armor eventually for to get mounts, plugging away on my BM monk for the upgraded gear

My biggest gripe with everything profession is the need to have a reputation to access recipes. It's hell on alts because you never play them enough to achieve any decent level of reputation. Annoying af.

I usually finish the professions in an xpac but this one... well... having to rely on other people to lean your profession can suck it.

My inventory is full of so much stuff I have no idea what it's for.

With professions, it's not just late joiners. I am someone who can't do dailies and chores for long periods of time. I get sidetracked, bored or straight out just refuse to work on these. So catchup is good and welcome.

This is true. I haven’t done anything with professions since the first month of DF

hi hazel! i have a quick question ^-^; idk if you already addressed this somewhere and i forgot but, the recolored (trading post) class sets for remix require the landfall achievement to unlock and buy. do i have to do that on every class i want the sets on? or can i just do landfall once and just buy it on my alts? sorry again if you answered this before!

Question - I forgot about this until you mentioned professions. On my main I maxed out my profession points and between the weekly profession quests and the treasties I now have 90 profession points I can't use. Will I get to keep those or do those just disappear once the next expansion starts? I suspect I'll loose them but thought I'd ask.

Thanks hazel smashed it as always, love your hair too!

Btw, a fun way to get around the no flight areas is any parasol toy + meteor chip. have fun gliding at super fast speeds

well i got one remix up to max might need too get one or two more

looks like I am going all gathering in this new expansion.

Question: Are we not able to get access to the reputation vendors in MOP remix? I can't seem to find any of them despite being exalted on many.

i don't have the patience for full crosswords but the nyt mini crosswords? absolutely addictive

I always use a Warrior (except Warglaives) and a Mage (for wands) to collect most of the weapons.

Dragonflight killed professions for me. I only crafted for my own characters but I had all professions maxed out from every expansion and collected as many recipies as I could. In DW, I only worked on Leatherworking because that's what my main wears. Doing more was more hassle than fun. If the system is continuing, then I'll likely not bother. Enjoying Remix but I didn't realize after getting my Paladin into 402 gear (was going to save the bronze for mogs) that the rings, trinkets, and cloak do not level up to match. I tried to get into Heroic Raids to get more bronze but nobody wanted me even though I was still under 371 ilvl overall (Is that still a thing?) Now I just feel stuck on that character, so back to leveling alts I go. Beta has been more fun now that I'm not dc'ing every 15 minutes. Thanks for the addon information! Just installed it.

I stopped my professions leveling at crafting orders quest.

Glad I'm not alone on NYT word game playing 🙂

Jepetto is also offering a discount again, but it's not a fuill 50k off this year. Unless I have a Dalaran discount I don't know about?

Question - life has been hectic recently and I haven’t gotten to play the Remix at all - any tips to start?

Just checked out Trove Tally. The remix weapon list is kinda insane. Really need an arsenal, doesn't even matter how much bronze they put it up for.

so there is one thing i hope they fix, some of the larger pieces of gear like weapons and such or the Primal gear that could be adjusted depending on a mat you get from raiding or dungeons right now its called Awakened Dream Fragment or something along those lines to raise the i level of an item in crafting. That stuff was fine but instead of making the items bind on pickup, I'd like to see all that stuff bind on equip like it used to be, b/c as a crafter you where not able to make a lot of money this expansion via crafting, it was more of a self improvement along the way kind of thing which was ok but did not help you make a crap ton of gold like previous expansions.... now if i had to choose i would make normal learned crafting recipes BOE, while recipes earned from world drops/reputation/raids to be BOP or made through crafting order, that to me would have made much more sense and it would have allowed crafters to make more money along the way.

looking forward to seeing npc crafting orders

I only just got back into wow this year. Ive been taking it slow, playing other games (and even when playing wow, I took part in Plunderstorm and now Remix). I still do not have the main story done, so I don’t have weekly crafting quests unlocked. My crafting ability is SO incredibly far behind, it’s kinda hilarious. I haven’t played since MoP and i’m used to leveling my professions while leveling my character - as a tailor/enchanter, easily crafting gear, keeping my gear enchanted, etc. Now, both my crafts are sorely underleveled, many recipes are locked behind renown, and I can only make lower quality items (I’ve been buying enchants off the AH, as an enchanter, because I can’t make HQ versions yet. That feels weird AF lol…) The crafting orders also don’t seem to be a thing? (or the orders dont show before max skill idk) At least material costs are pretty low since the market is so saturated, lol. The new prof stuff seems kinda cool, but honestly I’d rather have the old way. There’s already sssooooooo much stuff pulling at our attention, adding complexity & bloat to professions definitely wasn’t on my bucket list of features 😅

I gave up on professions in Dragonflight due to not being able to catch up.. it wasn't worth it. So i'm glad to hear there is catch up mechanics

Unpopular opinion but as someone that’s played since 2008 I really miss the old crafting system. Sometimes less is more. I love when devs use the KISS model which is keep it stupid simple

Question - are there any professions in TWW that have daily CD similar to alchemy and tailoring now? If so - which professions are they and for what items? Unfortunately I do not have beta access myself

Question! Will the gems transfer over to our regular realm once Panda Remix is done? I'd like to create a speed character and keep all the speed gems!

yak stack is back in your pack \o/

Question for next week; What class are you most excited to play in TWW? And why? I'm having difficulty deciding what I want to "main" lol

Question: so that means I can get garroshs shoulders from the vender on my shammy?.

That add-on is going to now consume my life; thank you to whatever dev made it, because I've been just having an open window on my second monitor with the wowhead article up and trying to manually check things off in an excel spreadsheet. This is like All The Things, but one that I can actually complete to make my monkey brain go "oooh".

The problem with a system where crafting is difficult is that you end up having 90% of the people just become gatherers. If it takes forever to get cap in crafting because the mats are hard to get and expensive most people just won't do it, they will just gather mats instead. Then you end up with a system that destroys gathering professions instead. The previous iterations of crafting all the way to Dragonflight worked fine because it didn't feel like you were punished for being one or the other. Now it feels like unless you are gathering mats that you have to no life crafting. They could have added layers onto the previous crafting system, but instead they made it a convoluted mess of reputation grinding, mat buying, and praying that you can be the first to start crafting the rares with the limited timed items to max out fast.

I very much dislike that Inspiration is still a thing, especially on gear. Concentration was supposed to replace that. I don't want my crafts dictated by luck and RNG. All of the crafting seems "fine" on the alpha/beta outside of LW now missing all weapons (I'm hoping that's an oversight). Currently, very few recipes are coming from renown, which I like! Also, you earn a LOT more base skill points from trainer recipes than from being forced into using soulbound mats and waiting for personal/public crafting orders to show up. I do appreciate that Blizz is taking a bit of a turn with buffs, potions, enchants, and even some of the "embellished" gear with more kiss-curse offerings. In terms of embellished, it doesn't appear to be a thing in TWW. I'm literally wearing 4pc tier, crafted 2pc set, proc cloak, crafted proc boots, and a proc weapon. None say embellished or have any language that restricts them. It'd be great if all of that was possible as I very much like buffing the party as a healer and the extra spell effects and bonuses feel and look great.

Question: What type of bear is best?

No disrespect to Hazel, but am I the only one who spends the entire video mesmerized by her kitty cat?

asmr is a thing for a lot of people i really never got anything out of it myself. But is there a name for being mesmerized by her stoking the cat every week. like the visual equivalent of asmr? but thank your for the updates and my guild thanks you for the raid strats :)

I have always really enjoyed professions and made sure to max out at least one of each in every expansion. Dragonflight professions are absolutely horrible. They are so complex I feel I would have to read a manual (and keep it on hand) just to have an idea of how to do anything. I also have no clue how to get patterns. I have a long list of unlearned patterns and I have yet to see a vendor, or get any from drops. Not that it probably matters as I don't want to constantly chase after sparks to make anything. I am just heartbroken over what they have done. I have been playing Wow since vanilla.....20 years! I have seen some poor decisions in the game over the years, but I would just move on and enjoy the things I love: questing, auction house and professions. They pretty much destroyed gold making from the AH by merging them, so now no one makes money. Now they have completely destroyed professions, my second favorite thing. I am strongly considering looking for another game to play. WoW just is not what it used to be, it is not the game I love anymore.

Nice moose shirt! ;)

It was my impression that they wanted to convince players to return and garner more players, but with some of the changes ive seen here and other streamers, it seems the opposite is true. Blizzard never learns it seems

Professions are dead to me. Just not fun anymore and they clearly are not taking community feedback on them. Awesome 👍🏻

How about if the mats for professions actually were worth something on the AH instead of me having to just not bother and holding everything I gather in my bank then vendor for whatever gold it’s worth. I have so much herbs, ore, fish, meat and cloth in my bank and it’s all gonna go to the vendor I’ve stopped wasting my time. I used to make all my gold by selling the fish and herbs needed for raiders to make their feasts and potions.

As a non-crafter, I really hate how professions are done. There's no guarantee I can get a max crafted item, even if I ask for it, provide all the mats and give a huge tip. Recipes like the neck are too hard to get. People in my guild have been trying all expac and haven't seen it drop.

While i think professions now are totally awesome… they suck at the same time… as a person who raids/M+s my life away i miss being able to do professions on the side… i took a few months off wow for nursing school and was never able to get caught back up with my enchanting… i’ve been buying enchants off the AH since my break.. and thats just a bummer

i can't believe that we have content in remix that is locked behind mythic content. not only do we have a limited window to get all this stuff, but we have to pick and choose whether we want to upgrade our gear to do the mythic content or spend our brooze on the limited time rewards AND we have to contend with the aholes that bar us from getting into the mythic content that creat the groups in the group finder. They demand this class, this spec, this gear, this achievement, this io score, this mythic score, this or that, or all of the above. I was really having fun with the remix until i found just how much stuff I WASN'T going to be able to get because of this. I do hope if they do this again they take the rewards out of mythic content and make gearing better.

5:58 The confused teachers teaching the confused disciple who advises the truly confused (me) !

Oh great. The complicated expensive professions in DF are going to be… complicated and expensive in TWW.

tbh i hate the dragonflight professions, only came back a couple of months ago and it's so confusing as to wtf im supposed to be doing to improve them

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Dragonflight made me reroll almost all my characters to gatherers. They took "please make professions useful and interesting" and made them needlessly gated and convoluted. Same thing, I guess.

You should do time stamps

I am a chicken mama and very interested in where your hunter got the back ???? 😊

Less rng on crafting is a win imo

Professions lost their soul and the adventure behind them. If you want to fix them, you need to look at games that do them far better in their early stages and Runescape is a key example. Need to create a frost related item? You should have to travel to frost related zones and do a unique gameplay mechanic to acquire it, with something that borders on a QTE for doing them (which 'could' reduce bots if done the right way = far more lucrative professions with less items being produced in the market by bots). Ignoring that, mining in classic feels so much more satisfying to me, than modern, simply for having to click the node multiple times. I remember enjoying the QOL change, but I was wrong. The immersion is something valuable we left behind. I play Wartales at the moment and they've made their professions feel incredible. They have gameplay to them and it makes you want to engage in the systems, far, far more than WoW has in years.

Now if they would just let you keep all the hunter pets and not have to re-farm them for each hunter.

Have professions undone, some with no points spent, hated locked behind fishing recipes

Hazel, I love your hair, very Audrey Hepburn! 😍

This may be an unpopular opinion but I hate that crafted gear is BIS for some specs. I don’t want to spend my gold on temporary gear in order to be comfortable and competitive in M+ and mythic raids

Whelp. Guess I'm stay herb and mining since professions still sound stupid

My problem is that the community knowledge takes so long to catch up because people aren't willing to share as it will reduce their gold making. I see content creators will release their big gold makers right before it gets nerfed.

Question: have you tried Strands? what do you think of it? I stopped doing the spelling one in disgust because it's not just making words, it's making words on the creator's list. Nothing more annoying than finding a clever word and having it rejected.

My mom is also really good at word games, especially Scrabble and Words with Friends. In fact, she's so good that she always beats me when we play together. I hate losing, so I hate playing any kind of word games! Thanks, mom, you ruined word games for me!

This sounds awesome. Anything to stop the Profession Cartels from abusing the system. These Cartels or Mafia's were insanely toxic to the crafting scene and I hope Blizzard does more to discourage these little gangs from forming and trying to manipulate and control the market. They have been by far the worst part of Dragonflights new profession system