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7 ай бұрынThe Buffalo Bills will square off against the Miami Dolphins in a Week 18 battle for the AFC East crown. However, the Bills could miss the playoffs if they lose and the Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Houston Texans, or Indianapolis Colts all win. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones discuss whether their opinions of Josh Allen will change if Bills Mafia does not make the playoffs.
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@michaelmccollum2879 7 ай бұрын
Lmao the Lamar disrespect continues to be flagrant. Not a single one of them said Lamar. Wild.
@saynomoremedia7463 7 ай бұрын
Joy did
@PaulWilliams-rw8ci 7 ай бұрын
Joy said Lamar
@marcusace9087 7 ай бұрын
I just can’t get over the fact the media still leaving Lamar Jackson out of the conversation with Joe Josh and mahomes
@iamsamfortunebrg8772 7 ай бұрын
Not only leaving him out, they give the others more benefit of the doubt than Lamar too.
@Los150 7 ай бұрын
He’s about to win his 2nd MVP. What are you talking about? Lol
@princecheck11 7 ай бұрын
@@Los150the conversation they had duh?
@marcusace9087 7 ай бұрын
@@Los150 saying an injury excuse for Josh allen is halarious, ravens for 3 years in a row we’re most injured team yet he still wins games playing in a far and away harder division
@LuckyFin85 7 ай бұрын
Mahomes, Joe and Josh have all at least made it to the AFC Championship game. Lamar hasn’t even been past the divisional round.
@Messigoat1033 7 ай бұрын
Lamar had his #1 RB JK Dobnins out first game of the season. He lost his #1 weapon Mark Andrews 5 weeks ago. Lost his second RB Mitchell. Our best CB Marlo was out most of the season but Lamar still carried the team to the #1 seed in the AFC and he played in the toughest division in the NFL. Miss me with the injury excuses. They lost the Bills, Broncos game cuz of him: he had 3TO in both games.
@chrisreynolds-ys6on 7 ай бұрын
Man tell them
@nickisue044 7 ай бұрын
give me a break, Denver scored a total of 3 points off those turnovers. Special teams lost that game. How you have 12 people on the field, Denver's kicker literally missed the game winning FG and because of the 12 men got moved closer and a second shot.
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
@@nickisue044So Josh Allen did have two of those four turnovers himself?
@Africa-BMCAM 7 ай бұрын
I think it's the fox owner who wants that narrative out tbh. It's like they knew not to mistakenly add Lamar to that conversation. If you go back and listen to joy take on Lamar at the end it's like she doesn't agree with the narrative already to not have Lamar in the conversation. It's anger from her mainstream media is just misleading at times. I completely agree for a none football fan to listen to this debate they would assume Lamar 2x MVP(unanimous 1x) is just a guy tbh. 20-1 vs NFC never missed a postseason when he lead the ravens, two number 1 seeds,75%+ winning record and lead the NFL in pocket passing touchdowns 2019
@Messigoat1033 7 ай бұрын
@@nickisue044 So 3 possession that should’ve been a scoring for Buffalo got waisted by Josh and defense still bailed him out but we blaming special team? Lol
@sly0422 7 ай бұрын
Shady you weren’t giving Deshaun Watson or Justin Herbert the injury pass but Josh Allen gets that pass 🤣, Browns makin playoffs with way more injuries
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
Hey they got mad at Deshaun for winning games for the team
@terryharris8228 7 ай бұрын
Facts lol 😂
@bcamm3100 7 ай бұрын
The panel favs get excuses
@koolkitties8552 7 ай бұрын
Every team has injuries
@BobbyBenson808 7 ай бұрын
...and the Browns are in the playoffs with more injuries to key players than any other NFL team. According to the panel's criteria, is Joe Flacco elite???? this segment is whack.
@almightyderic527 7 ай бұрын
“How imma win when my whole team hurt” 😂😂 Lamar had his team #1 in the AFC going into week 12 with 20+ people on IR before his injury and y’all still keep disrespecting him
@crayway1 7 ай бұрын
I was minding my own business not paying attention then Joi said if Lamar Jackson wins the Super Bowl and two MVPs she will move him ahead of Josh?!?! So Lamar has to win a Super Bowl and 2 MVPs to be ahead of a guy that hasn’t been to the superbowl or won an MVP??? 🤦🏾♂️
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
Remember Joy is not up there because she knows football 😂😂😂
@larry2281 7 ай бұрын
Lamar necessarily doesn’t deserve the mvp this year with his stats but will likely win it anyway. But regardless Allen has been better than Lamar every year since Lamar’s MVP season. Doesn’t mean Lamar isn’t great. It’s just Allen has been better. The media just loves to tear Allen apart and Lamar fans love to tear other players apart to put Lamar above them.
@AllWavier 7 ай бұрын
@@larry2281he doesn’t deserve MVP. You’re right. He EARNED MVP. The Most Valuable Player award. It’s not the, “best stats award”. Lamar hasn’t even been healthy for a full season since he won his unanimous MVP so I’ll give you that. But, this whole video was them putting Josh up on a pedestal and saying he’s great. There’s literally no one that tears Josh Allen down. He’s always in the convo with Pat as the top 2 QBs. You gotta just be real with yourself and admit that you don’t like Lamar
@larry2281 7 ай бұрын
@@AllWavier Mvp is a statistical based award. It always has been. His stats aren’t mvp stats. When did I ever say I didn’t like Lamar? Lamar is great. He just isn’t the mvp this year. And the media definitely tears Allen apart. All they like to do is bring up his turnovers. Yes he’s been praised as the best QB in the league along with Mahomes because rightfully so he has been. Doesn’t take away from the fact the media loves to talk more about his downsides than upsides. That’s all they have done this season but won’t ever mention he leads the league in touchdowns. He’s set two nfl records this year and the media still tears him apart. Nick Wright for example absolutely hates the man.
@kdr5d 7 ай бұрын
@@larry2281Lamar leads his team in touchdowns, passing yards and rushing yards and they’re the #1 seed. He’s by far played way better then Josh Allen
@rodneythomas851 7 ай бұрын
Leaving Lamar out is crazy
@blackanimelover18 7 ай бұрын
He's the 4th best AFC QB
@brandonk3385 7 ай бұрын
Show me his standout playoff performance
@valenciafantv 7 ай бұрын
@@brandonk33852 mvps, hall of fame
@brandonk3385 7 ай бұрын
@@valenciafantv doesn't change the fact that he's abysmal when it matters.
@valenciafantv 7 ай бұрын
@@brandonk3385 abysmal.. look at the stats
@XaneVidz 7 ай бұрын
Burrow and Allen have 2 of the best WRs period! Pat had the best ever for years… Lamar had who??? Now he has a great WR core but took 6 years to get and now look! He is the best
@billsfanatic7288 7 ай бұрын
Lamar has ten seconds in the pocket every play and the best defense ever as far as comparable to rest of league that said season
@raremoney3062 7 ай бұрын
@@billsfanatic7288Lamar has 10 seconds because he creates it. Our OLine been banged up and rotated In and Out all season. That why people being saying he’s the mvp. You have to watch the ravens play. These media outlets spread lies and misinformation and people take them at face value with their own research. That’s why ravens fans be pushing so hard in the comments. We see the real and the media comes on air and create narratives. Context matters with all teams to gain a better perspective on the player, game, team, or season
@nenola504 7 ай бұрын
@@billsfanatic7288aint josh allen had the number 1 scoring defense ? And aint make a sb
@bcamm3100 7 ай бұрын
@@raremoney3062G. These ppl don't watch raven games. They just copy what another person says who didn't watch either..
@Mystery1140 7 ай бұрын
Why has he been bottom 15 in passing yards and tds all season then??
@adonaisyllien5967 7 ай бұрын
You said you never see guys run and throw like Allen as if Lamar doesn’t exist
@DekuMight45 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen has never in his career been better than Lamar Jackson. The year Lamar gets comparable weapons, to where he’s not having to carry every single thing, he instantly became the most dominant QB in football.
@larry2281 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen has been better than Lamar every year since 2020. Don’t be stupid.
@bridgerweir9353 7 ай бұрын
What happened in the playoffs
@billsfanatic7288 7 ай бұрын
Josh has three seasons better than Lamar’s MVP season😂😂 what are you on
@scdb12 7 ай бұрын
@@billsfanatic7288 😂 You just typing just to type I see. Josh Allen’s 2020 season was his best and doesn’t even compare to Lamar’s 2019 season.
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
@@larry2281What does Josh Allen have that Lamar doesn’t?
@michaelmccollum2879 7 ай бұрын
This whole segment wild man. Shady just said you won’t see another quarterback that can run and throw like Josh.
@billsfanatic7288 7 ай бұрын
He’s right
@MixxMatrix 7 ай бұрын
Lamar has an arm and can run. They forgot about Cam too I guess lol
@justinbellamy1399 7 ай бұрын
@@billsfanatic7288do you watch football ?
@mylesbrew5410 7 ай бұрын
@@justinbellamy1399nope… he barely even watches the bills for that matter..
@mylesbrew5410 7 ай бұрын
Ya this was easily the worst segment I’ve ever seen them have. Shameful even.
@TheRealMichaelP 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen gets more excuses than any qb I seen in a long time
@user-it4yn9vz6c 7 ай бұрын
Him n Herbert
@SlightyAnnoyedDinosaur 7 ай бұрын
Definitely
@joshuaokparaocha331 7 ай бұрын
@@user-it4yn9vz6cI call them the great big whites. If Drake Maye puts up a couple highlights he’ll be right there too
@hays0939 7 ай бұрын
nfl poster boys@@user-it4yn9vz6c
@yohanesscunningham7435 7 ай бұрын
@@user-it4yn9vz6cHerbert has had poor coaching in his defense, but Allen has NO excuse
@matthewkenny8327 7 ай бұрын
I think McCoy has a crush on Josh Allen! I don’t have Josh Allen in my top ten of quarterbacks
@johnhordge9556 7 ай бұрын
Shady is very disrespectful to James jones .. shady brings nothing to the conversation.. he’s easily side tracked I’m glad Acho called him out..
@user-it4yn9vz6c 7 ай бұрын
Yeah James gotta check him n Shady act like he da bomb cuz he got 2 rings on da bench
@captainchaosxx3866 7 ай бұрын
That's why Dave is gone I believe. But Dave's show is pretty good.
@professorzoom4467 7 ай бұрын
@captainchaosxx3866 Real Spill
@jasminem4853 7 ай бұрын
Mad disrespectful to James! I thought I was the only one seeing it. James is always calm about it though but I guess that’s cause 9/10 his takes are better than Shady but he needs to be checked
@jasminem4853 7 ай бұрын
@@captainchaosxx3866which Dave?
@alansalinas9245 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen can say he has the most interceptions thrown
@joepoke1852 7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY! AS HE'S MOSTLY ALWAYS HAS
@PoorIQJo 7 ай бұрын
Gets under my skin how they say Joe Burrow and Josh Allen over Lamar lmao
@Fairlady01 7 ай бұрын
DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!
@haydennyagah706 7 ай бұрын
I think Burrow is better than Lamar but Lamar is better than Allen
@tylerprince5532 7 ай бұрын
Look at the career stats and playoff success. Com’n guys.
@PoorIQJo 7 ай бұрын
@@tylerprince5532 Lamar is the most winning QB under the Age of 25 of all time with 41 wins, at the same time we can acknowledge he has the worst supporting cast outta all the QB’s he’s competing with
@PoorIQJo 7 ай бұрын
That playoff talk is gonna end soon, then people won’t have no choice but to Put Lamar under Patty with Both the Regular Szn stats/awards and post szn
@bbdj3 7 ай бұрын
Shady asking Acho about his opinion on Lamar like Acho ain’t the biggest hater
@jimihendrix5195 7 ай бұрын
I am putting Lamar in front of Josh because of production. I don't care how talented Josh looks, what does that equate to on the field. How does the media constantly say that Lamar is asked to do more than any other QB, watch him do it, then be like this other QB is better because, what, he can run people over? Is he a running back or a QB? It sounds to me like Josh gets a positive look by the media over the exact same thing Lamar is always criticized over. Keep that same energy with Lamar. Y'all buggin.
@blackanimelover18 7 ай бұрын
Josh's production is elite. 15 rushing TDs ain't no joke. Ya'll love it when Cam did it and ya'll love it when Jalen does it.
@robp.8669 7 ай бұрын
It’s blasphemous to keep putting Josh Allen over Lamar Jackson as a top 3 QB talent with Mahomes and Burrow 🤦🏾♂️
@gilbertlloyd8691 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen has 27tds and 16ints passing. 15tds rushing 5 lost fumbles. 20 turnovers is pretty bad but he is the real deal. 😒
@Los150 7 ай бұрын
42 touchdowns. 40+ for four seasons straight. Four playoff wins to ONE. Including beating Lamar head to head. That was cute you conveniently left all that out though 😂
@gilbertlloyd8691 7 ай бұрын
@Los150 nothing he did in previous seasons matter to what the topic is, this season. And I said nothing about Lamar Jackson. If I'm not mistaken he is also leading the league in turnovers. His team might not make the playoffs.
@tquatMassEffect 7 ай бұрын
His TD to turnover ratio is not even that bad compared to most QBs
@gilbertlloyd8691 7 ай бұрын
@@tquatMassEffect 20 turnovers by a single player is a lot no matter how you slice it.
@joepoke1852 7 ай бұрын
@@Los150HE'S NOT BETTER THAN LAMAR. THAT MF IS A TURNOVER MACHINE
@rtv2324 7 ай бұрын
Like Lamar said we want to be underdog. The media gonna hate on Lamar even when we win this year. The media gonna make excuses for the white QB.
@30k76 7 ай бұрын
Big facts and they gone keep doing it til he win a Superbowl and it so sad and embarrassing for the Media
@anthoneykarimbey6156 7 ай бұрын
But when Winston throws for 5,000 yds all the media talked about was his interceptions…..
@ohhyeahhbaby1 7 ай бұрын
That what I’m saying.
@blackanimelover18 7 ай бұрын
He threw 30 of them, come on now. Stop acting like thats not a big deal.
@anthoneykarimbey6156 7 ай бұрын
@@blackanimelover18 Josh leads the league in Turnovers for the 2nd Straight season….. cmon now stop acting like it’s not about prejudice
@d-skee13 7 ай бұрын
Again!!!!! Lamar is graded on a different scale. He has to be better winning 2 MVP’s. In my opinion will be in the Super Bowl and will silence the haters. Josh never had a perfect passer rating but he leads in touchdowns and interceptions. How is that elite?
@blackanimelover18 7 ай бұрын
Allen has more playoff success, Lamar gotta equal that first.
@241techniques 6 ай бұрын
Crazy, right! And Josh doesn’t even lead in TDs just INTs. Dak lead the NFL in TDs. I think Jordan was second. Josh has lead the NFL in turnovers two years in a row and overall since he’s been a starter in this league.Not a peep about it. Dak had a “one-off” season last year w INTs and the media won’t let it go, nor will they give even half that criticism energy to praising him for having the best TD/INT ratio in the game this season.
@MikkiChavez 7 ай бұрын
These excuses man. Ravens deal w injuries every year n they still go to playoffs
@oyobizzle3750 7 ай бұрын
Now Shady don't care about a QB going to the SB it don't matter but always uses the argument to defend Jalen
@o4tw382 7 ай бұрын
Cowboys fans stop watching if you hate it so much
@Ka_Dee 7 ай бұрын
Facts u not lying.
@noahkramer942 7 ай бұрын
I don't even want to watch this show anymore because they keep forgetting Lamar. Bro about to be a 2-time MVP and we still not mentioning him over Burrow and Allen
@Fairlady01 7 ай бұрын
It drives me crazy!!
@blackanimelover18 7 ай бұрын
Where the playoff stats?
@thatgwana 7 ай бұрын
Give me 1 legit reason why josh is ahead of lamar if lamar becomes the youngest 2 time mvp
@anthoneykarimbey6156 7 ай бұрын
There won’t be any reason
@malachilindo5561 7 ай бұрын
You do know that you can win MVP and not be the best that year it happens all the time his first one no doubt he was THE best player but this year they could have gave it to a different players like at least 2-3 of them
@thatgwana 7 ай бұрын
@malachilindo5561 Yes, but josh allen hasn't done anything to prove he's better than lamar as is. Unless you count playoff success as the sole responsibility of the QB. Side note If age wasn't a factor, I'm taking stafford over Allen as well
@malachilindo5561 7 ай бұрын
@@thatgwana yea ofc if age didn’t matter but it does so that don’t count. Also either way those things matter when it comes in to play with someone being called elite drew brees should have at least 2 MVPS but since arod was arod he got it playoffs matter the way you play matter. Brett Favre has how many MVPS and he was a turnover machine also so idk I think they’re equal bc they both have done things the other hasn’t
@thatgwana 7 ай бұрын
@malachilindo5561 what I'm saying is that Allen hasn't been significantly better than Lamar and other top tier qbs outside of that one playoff run to be universally considered top 3. He's still really good but he gets way more credit than he has earned imo
@Messigoat1033 7 ай бұрын
Y’all know 95% of the media including Acho will try to scapegoat either the coach or stefon diggs if the Bills don’t make the playoffs. The NFL and media just love Josh Allen. They won’t stop dreaming of him being the face of the leage over Mahommes. We all know why.
@dactylicpoet791 7 ай бұрын
You act like the NFL ain't like 90% black with most of the good QBs being black too.
@Messigoat1033 7 ай бұрын
@@dactylicpoet791Yet who gets the most excuses all the time and when it comes to contract negotiations who gets it with no question and who gets “but he is injury prone” “but he is a runner”? 🤔
@Los150 7 ай бұрын
Lmao man cut it out. This dude scored 42 touchdowns and didn’t make the pro bowl. You listen to Nick Wright too much
@Messigoat1033 7 ай бұрын
@@Los150 How many TO? 🤔
@sfbeninati320 7 ай бұрын
@@Messigoat1033 Two Ints and 15 TDs more than Mahommes
@x96tilinfinity 7 ай бұрын
Lamar Jackson > Allen anyday, everyday. Lamar has done more with a lot less. None of these other QBs are winning unanimous MVP, let alone 14 wins with that 2019 squad
@Los150 7 ай бұрын
He has? Then why has Allen won 4 playoff games with a far better passer rating and Lamar has one? Including a head to head loss.
@x96tilinfinity 7 ай бұрын
@@Los150 This is Lamars first year with a legit offense. We've all seen how Josh Allen looked like before Diggs got there.
@Los150 7 ай бұрын
@@x96tilinfinityHe led his team to the playoffs without Diggs and HORRIBLE pieces around him lol
@LuckyFin85 7 ай бұрын
@@x96tilinfinitywhat are you talking about? The 2019 Ravens had the top scoring offense in the NFL.
@x96tilinfinity 7 ай бұрын
@@LuckyFin85 I wonder why...
@rodneythomas851 7 ай бұрын
The elite accolades goes to Lamar and pat and AR
@tylerwright4352 7 ай бұрын
Josh hasn’t won an mvp yet he over Lamar and Lamar could early take that bills team to the playoffs
@Los150 7 ай бұрын
He has taken them to the playoffs, goofy. Four playoff wins to one of fact. Lamar hasn’t even sniffed an AFC title game. Slow down on regular season awards lol
@larry2281 7 ай бұрын
@@Los150Anyone with a brain knows that Lamar doesn’t even deserve the mvp this year as well with those stats but he will most likely win it.
@SlightyAnnoyedDinosaur 7 ай бұрын
Shady in this clip saying burrow getting to the Super Bowl means nothing when comparing him to Josh. Now that same Super Bowl appearance means something for hurts over dak. It’s constantly mesntioned on this show and with most cowboys haters.😅
@BengalsNation632 7 ай бұрын
Exactly 😂 if we were talking about Jalen Hurts, he would’ve said “hurts got to a super-bowl though”
@gclay3176 7 ай бұрын
Man I thought I was tripping, all they do is mention Hurts went To a Super Bowl lol
@BengalsNation632 7 ай бұрын
@@gclay3176 he only uses it when it’s convenient for him
@o4tw382 7 ай бұрын
If y’all COWBOYS fans hate SHADY so much stop watching - go watch Skip
@SlightyAnnoyedDinosaur 7 ай бұрын
@@o4tw382 be quiet
@princecheck11 7 ай бұрын
how long until we stop giving josh a pass like people was doing justin herbert at first?? seriously?
@user-it4yn9vz6c 7 ай бұрын
Thank u
@NeverSober8008 7 ай бұрын
But Herbert is actually bad, Allen is actually good
@blackanimelover18 7 ай бұрын
Allen actually has playoff success.
@princecheck11 7 ай бұрын
@@blackanimelover18 bruh has progressively gotten worse in the playoffs 😂
@princecheck11 7 ай бұрын
@@NeverSober8008 based on what
@ICYMIINMIY 7 ай бұрын
James is cool calm and collected, Shady is all animated and what not 😂
@MikeSmith-kw7yc 7 ай бұрын
You guys either really hate Lamar or just pure jealous 1:51 This about to be a 2X MVP Lamar has never had a 6-6 record at any point in his career. Joe and Josh both have no mvps and 1 all pro Stop with this bias it’s sad . Shady not credible no more he said forget the accolades whattttt Ya put Lamar down to build Josh up Imagine if Lamar was on the brink to now miss the playoffs you guys would be saying the most . This like saying Joe Flacco was better the Arron Rodger’s because he had more playoff success Josh has no award and 2 pro bowls stop comparing these dudes to a 2x mvp Joy said if Lamar goes on a playoff run 🤦♂️ ight she’s lost credibility now too
@paulmix6846 7 ай бұрын
Bro the sports media really don’t like Lamar Jackson They keep putting Patrick, Joe and Allen above him 😂 it’s ridiculous that they don’t talk about what Lamar has done and what type of player he is
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
The only QB that should be over Lamar is Patrick Mahomes
@soonerjman 7 ай бұрын
Pats the best in the league.
@larrymoore6855 7 ай бұрын
Lamar Jackson is black dam I hate so bad on him
@watchOziastv 7 ай бұрын
The hate for Lamar is unreal smh bruh the way yall be praising Josh and Burrow smh man. Lamar has to be undeniable And he will make sure it happen this year.😤😤
@lorenzotheman1 7 ай бұрын
How about all those elite ints allen is throwing. Jackson belongs in this category hands down.
@yeenkno 7 ай бұрын
Can’t find you three QBs better than Josh Allen is Wild
@TDR-0484 7 ай бұрын
Nah only one I'd honestly take over Allen is Mahomes.
@darnellharper4971 7 ай бұрын
Shady literally said THIS WEEK that it’s really tough to get to a superbowl. He has no consistency
@DC-wg1zy 7 ай бұрын
Joy brought up the best point. He has the Jets in the Patriots in his division and struggled this season
@kylepatton7289 7 ай бұрын
Shady is tweaking the F out this episode. He's legit HIGHHHHHHH!
@santoine1122 7 ай бұрын
@SPEAK: Allen has no excuses. Here's Why: Jackson has played his team in position to make the playoffs every year sense he was the opening season starter. Name his top 10 receivers he has had at his disposal? Allen/Jackson have both done amazing things with their arms and legs. Constantly Allen has had the better teams since entering the league and definitely the better offensives. Elite is the ability to overcome the weaknesses and achieve regardless. This is the first real year where he has to perform regardless. Now as far as Allen is concerned he has been as consistent and water some games he's solid, liquid, or just gas like Purdy in the loss to the Ravens. Allen is great when he's hot . In reality he has been a candle burning in different size rooms. When the room is small he's a blazing fire in a big room he is Mr. Irrelevant. Now tell me how I'm wrong
@chhinchhem3816 7 ай бұрын
Shady always in denial with teams he’s played for. This dude is so scared of losing face and saying anything bad about his former teams.
@terrencemoore8739 7 ай бұрын
Hurts went to a Superbowl too but isnt talked about like Burrow and Allen
@alejandrocantu5981 7 ай бұрын
Cause hurts had one good season out of the 4 years he’s been in the league
@NeverSober8008 7 ай бұрын
Hurts is literally just Justin Fields but on a good team
@marcusverheyen1657 7 ай бұрын
Lamar?? jeez y’all trippin
@holpcs2 7 ай бұрын
Pretending Allen is better than Lamar is laughable. Allen is the most unaccomplished "eLiTe" qb I've ever seen.
@zoe4life85 7 ай бұрын
Imma Bills fan and I would definitely put Lamar over Josh!!! He’s(Shady) crazy
@professorzoom4467 7 ай бұрын
Thank You Sir
@xLegendaryPete 7 ай бұрын
I hope Lamar finally wins a title this year that why he can shut up all these haters 😤
@ohsosantana93 7 ай бұрын
All shady do is make excuses. Patty and Lamar. Everybody else falls behind that.
@winnerr2010 7 ай бұрын
I would never take Josh over Lamar. He’s special but he always gives you 2-3 bonehead plays a game
@thatdude659 7 ай бұрын
Lamar is special allen is special ed
@ohhyeahhbaby1 7 ай бұрын
@@thatdude659 😭😭😭
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
If I put Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson on the Bills they’re a legit Super Bowl contender
@kendrickfreeman4249 7 ай бұрын
Dallas is making the playoffs for the 3rd straight year with injuries! But Dak never gets a pass. Shady needs a new profession
@o4tw382 7 ай бұрын
Dak has 2 playoff wins after all the times he’s been in the league
@o4tw382 7 ай бұрын
If y’all Cowboys fans hate Shady so much stop watching and go watch Skip
@o4tw382 7 ай бұрын
If y’all Cowboys fans hate Shady so much stop watching and go watch Skip
@khaliljohnson4331 7 ай бұрын
“That’s all he has” speaking on 2 mvps like that is crazy😂😂😂
@terrencemoore8739 7 ай бұрын
Josh allen wins 66% of the time, Lamar wins 75% of the time. Lamar's "1-3 in the playoffs" he was a ROOKIE the first time, got injured in the one against the Bills, and while he didnt play great againat Tennessee, neither did the wrs who dropped several balls that game (mahomes been getting excuses all year despite 60 qbrs). If Lamar wins a Superbowl he'll almost certainly be a Hall of Famer. If it were to end today, neither burrow nor allen would make the Hall of Fame. This is tired, just admit, yall not gonna respect Lamar until he wins 2 or 3 games in January/February 😂
@ellievampmtf 7 ай бұрын
all these arguments could be made about Lamar, its wild no one brings him up. “If 4 top of your top players are out, what do you want ur QB to do?” Idk, win an MVP and lock the #1 seed in the AFC when Andrews (#1 target), Dobbins (#1 RB), Mitchell (#2 RB) and Humphrey (#1 CB) are injured. Talking about how more is expected of Josh Allen bc his division is trash - meanwhile AFC North is the most competitive in the NFL. “Josh Allen has a crutch in Diggs” and Mahomes has Kelce, Tua has Tyreek, Burrow has Chase, Lamar has? old OBJ and a bunch of rookies. “Who can run and throw like Allen?” i dont even need to address this…
@user-it4yn9vz6c 7 ай бұрын
Shady n JJ b crackin me up!! Shady better tread lightly cuz my patna from da Bay cuzzin!! W ❤
@mgp9733 7 ай бұрын
Lamar is elite and Josh shouldn't be in the conversation just based on talent. 2x mvp, top 3 winningest QB, best dual threat ever. BTW, if Lamar wins the MVP again and then a Superbowl MVP, he can start working on a rough draft to his HOF speech, right along side Patrick..
@Animals_areLife42735 7 ай бұрын
Bro Allen literally has better stats in every category than Lamar. The only reason he is gonna win mvp is because he's on an amazing team. Put allen on the ravens I bet allens stats are even better than they are now it's literally because of the team
@NeverSober8008 7 ай бұрын
Mahomes has less career TD’s than Joe Flacco, they won’t get into the hall of fame if they retired today.
@ohhyeahhbaby1 7 ай бұрын
Facts !!!!
@KennethBryant86 7 ай бұрын
If they don’t better keep that same energy they have for Herbert for Josh Allen
@TheCapn23 7 ай бұрын
I'm thinking it's Mahomes and Lamar at the top. Burrow too injury prone and Allen too inconsistent.
@gmjr30 7 ай бұрын
I feel like Lamar should have been in that conversation. Allen maybe the next Phillip Rivers.
@NeverSober8008 7 ай бұрын
Lamar is Russell Wilson without the post season success
@WisdomBars 7 ай бұрын
James Jones be cooking Shady a lot of times
@AttackZola 7 ай бұрын
I have never in my life thought that Josh Allen was better than Lamar other than 2020
@NeverSober8008 7 ай бұрын
Other than 2020…2021…2022… and depending on what happens in the playoffs possibly 2023
@AttackZola 7 ай бұрын
@@NeverSober8008 only because Lamar been hurt for the past 2 seasons like the dude did win mbp unanimously
@dantebrante3784 7 ай бұрын
James and Joy carry the intellect on this show
@bryancole5695 7 ай бұрын
Shady point is so cringe. Lamar went in to a season with over 10 starters on IR & had his team first place in the AFC before getting hurt himself. Like what are you talking about? Stop giving these so called “elite” guys passes when you don’t do that for no other Quarterbacks
@Animals_areLife42735 7 ай бұрын
Bro Allen literally has better stats in every category than Lamar. The only reason he is gonna win mvp is because he's on an amazing team. Put allen on the ravens I bet allens stats are even better than they are now it's literally because of the team
@bryancole5695 7 ай бұрын
@@Animals_areLife42735 he’s on a amazing team because Lamar makes them amazing. Josh Allen ain’t on a amazing team because he’s incapable of making the team amazing. 😂
@rasharbanks1392 7 ай бұрын
Lamar could take that team to the playoffs.. with all those injuries for the bills
@nenola504 7 ай бұрын
Cap😂 he already done it
@nenola504 7 ай бұрын
In 2021 lamar had the ravens number 1 seed before he got injured with leading the league in most injuries u sound crazy u gotta a yt boy
@rasharbanks1392 7 ай бұрын
@@nenola504 that’s literally what I’m saying in my comments
@Animals_areLife42735 7 ай бұрын
Honestly doubt that
@NeverSober8008 7 ай бұрын
@@nenola504Can’t read or spell, I blame your parents for that.
@zeroskaterjjr98 7 ай бұрын
Allen is an elite talent but that doesn't mean he is necessarily an elite player. No one would say brees was an elite talent but he is a top 10 all time. There are lots of player that had talent that weren't elite.
@lxb88b 7 ай бұрын
Huh that makes zero sense
@larry2281 7 ай бұрын
If you lead the league in touchdowns in a season, better yet leads the lead in touchdowns since 2019, and have the 2nd best record in the league as well since then. You are definitely an elite player.
@zeroskaterjjr98 7 ай бұрын
@larry2281 you also lead the league in turnovers since you entered the league and can find 4 games in a season that you lost for your team it's hard to call you elite. Kirk cousins has great stats.
@teddydatroop 7 ай бұрын
Huh?? Drew Brees has ALWAYS been considered elite while he was in the league.
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
@@larry2281and you lead the league in turnovers four out of the five years you wonder why your team can’t get to the promise land
@terryharris8228 7 ай бұрын
Contradicting everything they use against other qbs-Herbert etc just to give excuses for this man lol 😂
@uberblue6843 7 ай бұрын
Wasn't going to comment, but it just became clear these guys are trying to play a narrative that avoids including Lamar. Guess he's not quarterbacky enough.
@monteztaylor547 7 ай бұрын
Riiiiight
@wywigi 7 ай бұрын
Any given Sunday in putting Lamar over Josh.... In all categories
@billsfanatic7288 7 ай бұрын
Joe Burrow has missed the playoffs twice now. Idk about injury. Bengals were on pace to miss playoffs even when Burrow was playing. Allen is the most underrated qb all of the sudden
@reggiechristian-mz1cf 7 ай бұрын
Josh is given so much grace and he plays just like Lamar. He just bigger.
@rubenfunez9510 7 ай бұрын
“We went to the Super Bowl” is literally what Bengals fan tout proudly lmao
@thomascasalino8085 7 ай бұрын
Call me recently biased call me a hater call me whatever you want. WHY can Joe Burrow have 2 season ending injuries in LESS time in the league than Lamar Jackson but when Joe Burrow is hurt he gets a pass and is always considered elite and when Lamar is hurt and holds out for a contract he is labeled “injury prone”
@TheyCallMeGator 7 ай бұрын
Shady saying I only respect the winners is dumb af. How many greats haven't won a chip, so you don't respect them either? Smh
@SPORTS1000NFL 7 ай бұрын
Two best qbs are Jackson and Mahomes. Stop it with the Allen and Burrow bs.
@buffalonewyorker257 7 ай бұрын
Yeh Lamar's game is beautiful. He's a superb decision maker and executor. He's the best QB in the league. My boy Josh gotta snipe the Fins and make a deep playoff run to overshadow this choppy season's performance.
@RageDaug 7 ай бұрын
Josh has scored the most TDs ever in NFL history for a player in the first 4 years of his career, 5 years, and 6 years. Acho gonna say Josh hasn't done anything elite. 🤦♂
@jessicagill4386 7 ай бұрын
Not
@RageDaug 7 ай бұрын
@@jessicagill4386 yup.
@brianaarmendariz4802 7 ай бұрын
I want that “but DID HE WIN?!” energy when talking about Hurts Shady
@robertsingleton5441 7 ай бұрын
This week is gonna be 🔥🔥🔥
@ericthurman1050 7 ай бұрын
IM glad that they decided to look at definitions. That is how you are supposed to START any conversation.
@seandouglas8655 7 ай бұрын
His poor play? He gave them the lead with less than 2 minutes to go in 3 games and the defense blew it.
@geraldalbone7 7 ай бұрын
He's so wrong it's insane. No, zero chance burrow or mahomes takes this bills team to the playoffs or wins more games. For one burrow is being proven to not be as good as they think. He is a system player, Jake browning has had good success with that team and he isn't elite. Even mahomes right now only has 10 wins with a team ID consider more complete than the bills and with Andy Reid at the helm. It's a special qb that leads these bills teams to all these wins. Considering their only true talent on offense has been Diggs for years, it takes a qb that can hurdle defenders, one that can drag 3 guys 5 yards into the endzone, one that can truck linebackers. Mahomes or burrow can't do that. Pure arm talent mahomes has Josh beat. Doesn't have Josh's power, but he's more accurate and intuitive. But it's Josh's athleticism and physicality that puts him up there. He's up there in the top 5 for passing tds and yards every year. This year he's closer to top 10 with yards, but still is top 5 for passing tuds. But he also has 15 rushing tuds and almost 1000 yards on the ground. That's what makes Josh elite, his arm is top 5 in the league and his physicality and rushing is top 3. And this season he has brought this team to the cusp of the 2nd seed with their one true talent not producing and with 4 of our top 5 guys on defense being gone. No one else in the league does what he's done with this team.
@koolkitties8552 7 ай бұрын
There are tons of hall of fame quarterbacks who've never been to a Super Bowl. D*** marino only been There once and he's considered one of the best quarterbacks of all time .
@knightlifeentertainmentgro6072 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU JOY!!!
@LittleGronk-yv2tf 7 ай бұрын
Mathew Stafford is elite.
@Johenz 7 ай бұрын
Really don’t understand why y’all think josh better than Lamar. Talent isn’t everything but what you do with it. This is why we look at Herbert differently. This love for josh allen is becoming more of a fetish for talent. Also browns are making the playoffs w no qb but josh can’t make it cause his defense got hurt?
@user-it4yn9vz6c 7 ай бұрын
Steve Young was winning mvps n until he got da Super Bowl he ain't get no love
@user-lt1fx2he5s 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen is 6’5 240 tall glass of water with a rocket for an arm but no winning intangibles or situational football IQ
@sw3680 7 ай бұрын
Lamar is 9-1 against the bengals hes 2-0 against brady is this a real discussion or are we just trolling
@user-ep2wf5eq4l 7 ай бұрын
These headlines and questions can be really lame at times...
@dejuanroberts8883 7 ай бұрын
Another bum take by Shady. Buffalo was 5-5 when they were thinking we can win with elite Josh Allen but they fired the OC because of that thinking. Buffalo CHANGED their thinking and are 5-1 in the last 6 games because of the run game not JOSH ALLEN.
@paulhopkins5051 7 ай бұрын
I love this. When it’s Purdy throwing dimes it’s only his roster that makes him look good, but for Allen if he loses then it’s because he doesn’t have his roster playing with him. Haha, the opinion bias of these ‘football analysts’ is hilarious. Facts and stats mean nothing when put up against their amazing judgement. Hahaha.
@morrisbrown8031 7 ай бұрын
Josh has dealt with a fraction of what Lamar has dealt with yet he never got a pass. He got knocked for not having receivers. He’s better than Mahomes to me. Mahomes can’t make anything work. Ijs It’s different. Lamar is a better athlete and qb because he plays different at a higher level. He doesn’t get excuses
@mylesbrew5410 7 ай бұрын
The way they don’t even include Lamar in these convos has me questioning all of their football acumens….
@LCyte88 7 ай бұрын
Once again!!!! Joy is speaking with some much knowledge of the game how is Lamar not in that Conversation!!! It's definitely 4 QBs in this Conversation!!! Pat, Joe, Lamar, and Allen! These QBs are very talented
@RageDaug 7 ай бұрын
Only Mahomes has more wins since 2018 than Josh has. Acho smoking some good stuff. Outside of Mahomes, no one with more total yards, wins, and TDs since 2018 than Josh, and Acho gonna say Josh hasn't done anything elite. Come on Acho, you gotta do better than that.
@rodrigocampo9014 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen elite.....????!!!!!! How or why.....?????!!!!!!
@Justhere105 7 ай бұрын
Josh Allen has done absolutely nothing… the pinnacle of his career was a loss to Kansas City…
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