How Zildjian Cymbals Made it from the Ottoman Empire to Now

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In 1622, Avedis Zildjian, an Armenian metalworker in Turkey, melted a top-secret combination of metals to create the perfect cymbal. Nearly 400 years later, Zildjian's descendants are one of the most well-known cymbal sellers in the world today.
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@MichaelDavis-bi5dz 8 жыл бұрын

I like how Avedis is holding a machine hammered cymbal, also the jazz guy is using modern A Customs. I guess it can't all be perfect, but I thought it was funny.

@tobylam 8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Davis 4:36 It's a Sabian OMNI, but hey, good program nonetheless

@nonosh 8 жыл бұрын

+Toby Lam And it was Sabian's president, Andy Zildjian, who was providing the translation of the last name (which wasn't exactly accurate, but nevertheless in the right direction; it's clear that he doesn't speak much Armenian, if any).

@nonosh 5 жыл бұрын

@S M I know that. I never said it was Armenian or not Turkish; I simply said that fellow doesn't speak much Armenian. I'm familiar with the cultural nuances of Ottoman-Armenians, as my grandparents were survivors of the Armenian Genocide. That said, my surname is also from Ottoman/Western Armenia; it's composed of two Turkish words plus the -ian suffix.

@mightymrmousempls 3 жыл бұрын

A Customs can be jazz cymbals my dude. Blakey, DeJohette, and Al Foster all used to play Paiste 2002s. Just sayin'

@MichaelDavis-bi5dz 2 жыл бұрын

@@mightymrmousempls not in the 1920's/30's like they were depicting lol.

@alanduncan1980 7 жыл бұрын

It's funny how the ancient cymbals look exactly the same as the modern ones. lol

@shiningarmor2838 3 жыл бұрын

Avedis' cymbals were so perfect that nobody needed to change them until jazz took off.

@jakobbruhspenning 9 ай бұрын

@@shiningarmor2838kind of insane how they where machine hammered since 400 years ago

@shiningarmor2838 9 ай бұрын

@@jakobbruhspenning Yes the cymbals in the video are modern 'A's, but the ancient ones don't look much different.

@eboethrasher 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like there are gonna be some epic 400th anniversary cymbals.

@billyunderwood2197 7 жыл бұрын

Like, when you make a documentary about cymbals and put so much effort into the costumes and backdrops but forget to use the right cymbals. C'mon

@YoursUntruly 2 жыл бұрын

They said zildjian

@YoursUntruly 2 жыл бұрын

In the beginning anyway

@boinknook 4 жыл бұрын

Played on an all purpose zildjian cymbal made in Turkey back in the 1970's. Will never forget it. Full bodied just like an expensive K. I was so lucky.

@jeshkam Жыл бұрын

How long does a cymbal last?

@ImCaveJohnson 8 жыл бұрын

Thus began, the great war over the cymbals

@edwinlopez30 7 жыл бұрын

Where can I find the full document on this?

@ArrowThrills 4 жыл бұрын

I wish Zildjian would bring back the old cymbal logo.

@michaeltoman5427 8 жыл бұрын

4:37 pretty sure that isn't a Zildjian Cymbal.... Looks like a Sabian Omni Ride being played by Jojo Mayer who endorses Sabian...

@drummaman1 8 жыл бұрын

Still same formula. Robert Zildjian started Sabian after Avedis III died and left everything to Armand, who was older.

@michaeltoman5427 8 жыл бұрын

+drummaman1 that is awesome! I have heard that before.

@jensharald9091 7 жыл бұрын

It can be an old cancelled series? I mean hybrid cymbals are common between manufacturers and look at the K custom hybrids zildjian makes as well

@JeserNoob 7 жыл бұрын

Jens Harald nah that's definitely an omni

@Phxsphxrus 5 жыл бұрын

It used the same formula, just a different name

@sionlewis827 7 жыл бұрын

Is there a full version of this doc?

@rulorulex6964 7 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if this is serius, or It's suposed to be funny, I just know that I love it.

@vesak988 7 жыл бұрын

My godness.. This video is about history of Zildjian, not about genocide, war or whatever are all of you talkin about -_- ..... It's great video and I'm glad to see more of this stuff about drums etc :) (sorry for my mistakes, I do not speak english perfectly)

@markbahouth2713 Жыл бұрын

you writing is very good . no problem. special just for you.

@user-so6mx4gn2o 5 жыл бұрын

Zildjian the best

@jaybreen1010 5 жыл бұрын

I only play Krut

@SaadNabil 2 жыл бұрын

70th comment. So gold. 🥁

@danielphilipnavarro4061 6 жыл бұрын

equivalent exchange

@dailybls 6 жыл бұрын

That guy is way too dark to be armenian, he looks Indian. They've never seen an armenian before?

@sadisticfaith7721 5 жыл бұрын

eburcua armenians are kind of brunette they also looks like turkish people too.

@Vincent3942 5 жыл бұрын

Not Constantinople , It's Istanbul ;)

@tcaw8813 5 жыл бұрын

It's Constantinople, it belongs to Europe

@Vincent3942 5 жыл бұрын

@@tcaw8813 Nope, It belongs to Turkey for 400 years ;)

@taunoctua245 4 жыл бұрын

@@Vincent3942 I've heard that song.

@eboethrasher 2 жыл бұрын

Listen, even old New York was once New Amsterdam.

@humanoidphenomnon6754 7 жыл бұрын

so youre saying for the price of my car payment, I can have 1- 15" paper thin cymbal, that will last me 6 months. well id be a fool not to:)

@ElenOriental 4 жыл бұрын

Not really right information. And not right translation as well: "smith" in armenian is and always was (darbin ) դարբին . And "son" - "vordi" or "tgha" . "Djan: - is a form of appeal. "dear, precious, best." You need to check information about Roman Havasi (gypsy) who were in Sullukule , region of Constantinople, from first century. From where they came there. Then, check info about Karatals . Nice video, but not right info.

@Atilla_Batmaz 4 жыл бұрын

Also "zil" is an Turkish word that was ignored in the video. Constantinople was the name of the city BEFORE the Ottoman Empire. As we are talking about Ottoman times we need to call her Istanbul not Constantinople. grave mistakes...

@simbb6751 4 жыл бұрын

Atilla Batmaz it will always be Constantinople, just like the thousands of toponymes that were turkified under ataturk

@ytcio 3 жыл бұрын

@@Atilla_Batmaz ıt was also Called Constantinople in Ottoman times. Only Ataturk made it Istanbul

@srknnrn 3 жыл бұрын

During the Ottoman time, its official name was KOSTANTINIYYE, they kept the name in order to honor the founder of the city. Greek population in town called it Istanbul which meant "to the city", then local Turks called it same way. Then in time, as local people called it like this, its official name was changed to İSTANBUL as it is more republican to call it so.

@DeathswingKettlebell 4 жыл бұрын

Funny how Andy Zildjian is telling the story. When he owns Sabian. The better side of zildjian that moved on and conquers them. Sabian>zildjian

@rodgerrabbit7724 6 жыл бұрын

I want cymbals originated from the Crusaders :))))

@markr4619 Жыл бұрын

the turks invented a lot of percussion, we ( western europe) actually didnt start implementing snare drums in classical/romantic music until the sounds of ceremonial turkish drums became popular. there probably exists no such thing as a cymbal that old. scrap metal and materiel were extremely sparse on the crusaders war path.

@Riley88990 6 жыл бұрын

Zildjian, Sabian CEO lol

@fotolex Жыл бұрын

Zildjian become historic music 🎶 symbol heritage from Armenian community 🇦🇲 🏔️🏔️

@softdev1 10 ай бұрын

If the Zildjan family are Armenian and fled persecution from the turks, why are the cymbals Turkish and not Armenian?

@elmoblatch9787 4 жыл бұрын

It's not about the Armenian genocide, but man those Turks killed more than a MILLION Armenians. It was not ethnic strife, it was ethnic cleansing. Zildjian got out before the 1915 slaughter, but so many Armenians did not. My grandma barely made it out.

@obseraft 2 жыл бұрын

aha, google your Khojaly massacre

@TorkomMovsesiyan 8 жыл бұрын

Of course, the Armenian Genocide word is not mentioned, instead, the term "ethnic conflict" is used.

@Taydrum 6 жыл бұрын

Are you deaf?

@davitkarapetyan6672 5 жыл бұрын

Torkom Movsesiyan Torkom jan indz misht tvacela vor zildjiani xekavarutyuny amachuma vor haykakan armatner unen , misht osmaniany aveli araj en dnum

@alexro1967 5 жыл бұрын

You will see the truth when you read Ottoman, Russian, German and American history archive about EXILE. It is NOT GENOCIDE what you call. It is called EXILE what Ottoman did. U.S.A. did it to Japan origined U.S. citizens just as a security precaution against potential riscs during Pearl Harbour attack of Japan. You will see how many Turkish were killed during the EXILE by the Armenian armed bands allying with Russians and French army. Read the history Mr. Anti-Turkish.

@Phxsphxrus 5 жыл бұрын

@@alexro1967 stfu dude

@obseraft 2 жыл бұрын

@@Phxsphxrus Khojaly massacre google it.

@fermiLiquidDrinker 7 жыл бұрын

It all changed when the Swiss came along with Paiste.

@BossDrSample 7 жыл бұрын

I personally hate Paiste cymbals.

@fermiLiquidDrinker 7 жыл бұрын

OfficerMarmalade I feel the same about Meinl.

@Hannibu 7 жыл бұрын

Paiste are Estonians!

@Guustaaf 8 жыл бұрын

such crappy camera work

@mutterschied 2 жыл бұрын

I was always convinced Zildjian cymbal were turkish. Waddashame....

@varduhi81 2 жыл бұрын

Anything proclaimed turkish is not turkish. Even territory occupied by turks.

@bogartpablo 7 жыл бұрын

I'm a Sabian fanboy.

@kaanturkmen8157 6 жыл бұрын

AS BAYRAKLARI

@secretsoul3048 8 жыл бұрын

The Armenian Genocide did NEVER happen. Even the picture you showed in 2:13 was from the Siege of Medina in WWI, and the Pasha we see in front of his soldiers is Ömer Fahreddin Paşa (Rahmatullahi Aleyh), the leader who defended the Madinah for 2 years and 7 months without any supports sent from Islambol (Istanbul today). You cannot even say that Sultan Abdulhamid II was a bloody Sultan, who massacred the Armenians. Hellooo? One of the Sultan's best friends he had was an Armenian he had lost within a sad story

@maszlagma 6 жыл бұрын

Although the picture might be incorrect you can't just claim that the Armenian Genocide didn't happen...

@lolshark99b49 2 жыл бұрын

cool bro

@markr4619 Жыл бұрын

noone asked, makes me think it is real