Few things to consider when doing tests like these: when switching between different ammo, your first shot or two will almost always be a "flyer". When using a bi-pod it's better to not let it sit in the crack of the bench and instead free-recoil straight back. This allows the barrel to move consistently, rather than jumping around. Lastly, 5 shot groups or bust. Three just won't paint the picture. Good luck!
@Greyzonecompliant2 жыл бұрын
The lapua scenar 123gr bullets are Good bullets. They dont expand like proper hunting bullets. But they work well for hunting birds. I load the 100gr Lapua Scenar in the Grendel to get som more Speed. The 123 has less room for powder. When my groups get bigger than they should, the things on my checklist are: 1. Me 2. Parallax 3. Loose Scope/suppressor or brake 4. Loose stock screws 5. Is some debris interfering with the free floating of the barrel. 6. And last did anybody see me shoot that crappy group. 7. Switch to 1 shot groups. Always under 0.1 Moa.
@michaeldarby22422 жыл бұрын
I started out with barreled action from brownells, bedded in Boyd's prairie hunter. Rifle basix v trigger, sig 4x12 hellfire scope. 1 moa with hornady black, 90gr TNT hand loads are half inch groups.
@DuckersAI2 жыл бұрын
I too have same issue with my Howa 1500 in 7mm08, typically get 2” groups rarely under 1”
@davidgreenapple93972 жыл бұрын
Alexander Arms 123 grain Lapua Scenar is the best out of my CZ 527 6.5 Grendel along with Nosler ammo (which you probably can't purchase very easily right now). The Nosler 123 Grain Custom Competition and 120 Grain Ballistic Tip both are excellent.
@kennethdittig29862 жыл бұрын
i put mine in a boyd varmint hunter thumbhole, sub moa with the 123 hornady sst. they were making a 117 gr amax but stopped. that head sitting on top of 8208 shot .6 moa all day long, with the current shit show trying to get components i havent been able to try any of the barnes in mine, currently running mine suppressed, using for groundhogs in the summer and have taken 4 deer so far with it all 1 shot kills, all with the 123 sst. from 25 yards to 340 yards, its the perfect gun for a kid young lady or a newbie that may be a bit recoil shy. thanks for postin the video
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I like it but a little shocked at the groups. But then again I think I need more practice 🤔 lol. Thanks for watching
@DuckersAI2 жыл бұрын
You just got a new subscriber!
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Glad to have you along
@kirkmartin2223 Жыл бұрын
I have the excel lite chassis version with a 20" barrel. It shoots the Barnes factory 115gr ammo into 3/4" groups.
@lawrencelewis10362 жыл бұрын
I use the Hornady SST 95gr. in a 243Win. Very good whitetail bullet!
@william16845 Жыл бұрын
That is absolutely my favorite bolt gun in my collection,,i have a swampfox 2x12 on her..hornady black preforms the best..the wolf was fun until cases started rupturing. Id like to load up sone 90 grain tnt or 95gr v-max for coyotes..
@DuckersAI2 жыл бұрын
Hope you get some better luck!
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
I'll keep practicing
@metalman786022 жыл бұрын
I use Wolf 6.5 Grendel in a CZ 527 and a BCA AR15 and both shoot darn near MOA @ 100 yards. Check your scope.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@adrianflores18292 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, what’s the best group you’ve ever shot with any rifle? I’m thinking the rifle shoots fine and you may need more practice.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Could Always use more practice
@Jeff-fd8sc2 жыл бұрын
Try taking the muzzle brake off. Anything touching or attached to the barrel will change the barrel harmonics. Use a dollar bill and see if it slide between the barrel and the forearm of the stock. It shouldn't make contact until it gets back to the recoil lug or bedding block.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Will do. Much appreciated
@rustyrutledge9094 Жыл бұрын
SST’s perform excellent out of my 18” barreled AR 6.5
@dropbearknives48312 жыл бұрын
No barrel break in with mine. Loaded up some Hornady 123 ELD ahead of XBR 8208. it grouped at 1/2" at 100m for 5 shots. Have you checked the free float on the barrel. Mine shot American Gunner 123gn HP's around 1,5 " for 5 shot groups at 100m also. check your tension on the action bolts, that can make a difference to your accuracy too.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Yes I did check that. I'll give it another look though. Thanks :)
@CClifton5678 Жыл бұрын
First thing you need to check and redo is the torque of the scope mounts and action screws. I have a ruger rimfire that says 20-40in/lbs on the action. At 40in/lbs you might get a 1in group at 50 yards, with 25in/lbs is less than 1/2in at 100 yards.
@RogerSanGabriel2 жыл бұрын
I heard there is a barrel procedure needed for Howa barrels. Please read the different Howa forums. I wanna get the same rifle. Honey Badger has a similar problem with her Howa 6.5 Grendel.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
I will definitely have to look into it. Thanks
@merlinnorris817 Жыл бұрын
I try not to shoot on Windy days My 1st 6.5 grendle in 22" barrel with ppu 120 hp ammunition in the same hole and about an inch to inch and a half with the custom SS t's Have the shorter 20" barrel now shooting about 3/4 to an inch with the SS t's if I can do my part. Did a good job on the 2 does i got on far. One dropped and one 35 yards.
@rogerarmendariz76332 жыл бұрын
Mine likes the Fusion 120 gr.
@belindastrahan80534 ай бұрын
I’ve had 5 howa rifles now and they all shoot at least .5 moa. So the problem is most likely not the rifle.
@phillipsaywell753 Жыл бұрын
Also they are reasonably light barrels they start throwing groups after 3 or so shots . I dont think your leaving enough time for the bsrrel to cool down
@rexhamilton63812 жыл бұрын
The Hornady Blacks shot terrible out of my AR Grendel. My hand load 123 gr SSTs did okay. About 1.5 inches. Hand load accubond LR 129 gr was horrible. My barrel shot the best groups with 95 gr Vmax. I’m going to try some other weights but even with hand loading options for the Grendel are not great.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
What brand of upper are ya using?
@ThinkSoberly2 жыл бұрын
What’s your barrel length? I’m looking for what shoots good outta grendal pistol
@rexhamilton63812 жыл бұрын
Is an AR15parts upper. 20 inch. My best group was 95 gr Vmax at about .7 MOA. 123 gr SSt shoot about 1.25 MOA for me.
@stefangabor85492 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that stock? It looks awesome
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Thats how I bought it
@bradbaillargeon32482 жыл бұрын
Every shot taken heats up the barrel more so I’m guessing the more you shoot the worse the groups unless you are allowing a cooling period and editing it.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Seems to be a fine line no matter what. Definitely a possibility though
@shawnkautz8508 Жыл бұрын
Lose action screws can cause shifty groups.
@D703402 жыл бұрын
That gun should be a tack driver. Get rid of the muzzle brake, and get a better scope. Make sure the action screws are tight.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
Been working with it lately and it's gotten better
@MrRhsmike1892 жыл бұрын
Also make sure that the bipod isn't forcing the stock into the barrel when your behind the rifle. May want to try with just a heavy bag closer to the mag where the stock is more rigid. Best of luck!
@tammamshud2 жыл бұрын
Look, lets all get this straight. I dont care what rifle it is or who makes the damn thing, no rifle will shoot good straight from the box regardless of what the manufacturer says. ALL rifles need to be carefully shot in and then fettled to a good stock, properly bedded with quality reloads and yes this all takes time and is expensive. Of course there are exceptions to the rule and you will jag a good shooter from the box but this could be considered in the rare. I have a howa in 25/06 that could not hit the side of a barn until i really worked at it with a good walnut stock and loads, it will now pick the center out of anything i point it at, my second howa is a 7.62x39 mini action that will shoot 3/4 moa with 123 grain hornadys. Guess what, they both had Hogue stocks. To quote the late great Joyce Hornady " accuracy dosent just happen, you have to make it happen". Also stop searching for railgun accuracy from a hunting setup.
@demitrisolvinski Жыл бұрын
With all due respect, your information is inaccurate. I have two personal examples: Savage 110 tactical in 6.5cm that shot it's literal first 5 bullets into one ragged hole(0.3"). Factory 140eldm. Never cleaned the barrel, didn't add anything to it, or read it bed time stories the night before. I literally took it out of the box and shot it. I also have a Ruger American Ranch which printed 1/2 moa out of the box with factory ammo (123eldm) and again, didn't clean. I will say that most barrels will speed up and become more accurate after about 50-200 rounds depending on the quality of the barrel. The better the barrel the shorter the break in time. Really what you are doing is adding copper to all the imperfections, essentially smoothing the bore.
@OhioGentlemenArms2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool gun…definitely run different ammunition.
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
It could have been a combo of me as well. Lol
@OhioGentlemenArms2 жыл бұрын
@@Spidermonkey2a in my case it’s always me
@Spidermonkey2a2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya there lol
@joshclemons99759 ай бұрын
What's the reason for the break on a 6.5 Grendel about
@Spidermonkey2a9 ай бұрын
Muzzle rise mostly.
@Michiganpredatorcontrol Жыл бұрын
I’d be betting it’s the brake you got on it
@Spidermonkey2a Жыл бұрын
Good possibility
@ur_asian_milfoil2 жыл бұрын
Good thing my howa like cheap wolf ammo lol 😆
@larrywilson65552 жыл бұрын
There is a break in period most guns don’t shoot same hole out of the box
@rustyrutledge9094 Жыл бұрын
Very inconsistent head position/cheek weld behind scope
@Spidermonkey2a Жыл бұрын
Something I'm working on. Thanks for watching
@Bones6987 Жыл бұрын
More bench time Less push on the trigger Take off front scope cap Seems to be touching the barrel Take that Break off No need for the Grendel Shot the exact same groups Keep at
@Spidermonkey2a Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Bones6987 Жыл бұрын
@@Spidermonkey2a you are welcome Wasn’t trying to beat you up but if you will start shooting at 50 yards your groups will be better and you can calculate the scope adjustment for longer yardage (dope) and your confidence will increase So if you need any pointers Let me know In always will to help young shooters and old ones to
@Spidermonkey2a Жыл бұрын
No worries. I'm definitely no marksman so any pointers are appreciated.
@pipedreams57 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1500 in 223 caliber and it was a dog. I sent it back for a refund because that 10 round magazine does not feed ammo properly, usually throwing the cartridge out of the mag or causing a dangerous jam. Howa knows this and has done nothing to correct it by using a stronger spring in the mag. I trashed the Nikko scope for a Vortex 4 x 12 and shot similar groups as you show at 75 yards. The barrel heats up very quickly even waiting 1 or 2 minutes between 3 shot groups. Japanese junk.. Winchester still rules.
@TheIslandExpat6 ай бұрын
Ironically, several Winchester firearms are made in Japan.
@redstedman2 жыл бұрын
Break in procedure is a must. Too late now. JB’s is the ticket.
@dennispfeifer778810 ай бұрын
Bro. Your traveling the wrong road. Your are loading up a stalking mountain light weight rifle with stuff it should not have...and trying to make it a target rifle...strip it down for a carry rifle.,. That's what it is,. A wonderful stalking rifle and add a compact light weight low power wide angle scope since it has no metallic sights.
@oldschooldude83702 жыл бұрын
You're shooting downhill. That immediately affects your poi. Gravity is real. Numbers are calculated for long distance shots for just this.
@fjb49327 ай бұрын
oldschooldude, "...today we'll be shooting 100 yard target groups..." Anything less than 30° / less than 100 yards does not need to be factored in. ☆
@oldschooldude83707 ай бұрын
@@fjb4932 I wouldn't venture so far to assume that. Some calibers are zeroed at 200, 300 yds.