Imagine trying to explain to your wife why you need a $1200 propane heater 😂, definitely one of those end up on the couch at the end of the conversation 🤣
@loafboi_10 ай бұрын
Hopefully the howl of the propane-powered flames will block out the sound of my bank account howling in pain.
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
They're pretty audible, so there's hope!
@loafboi_10 ай бұрын
@@LastLineOfDefense Jokes aside, these are super neat. However, I'll hold out for the eventual Howl Mini (Howl Pup?) -- something cheaper and less taxing on cargo space. Also, Randall owes me a prototype if he makes the Howl Pup happen. lol
@S.-.V10 ай бұрын
That’s some insane $ for a fire pit, no matter how cool it is.
@GerardoTostado10 ай бұрын
yea all this goofy shit is ridiculously priced
@LastLineOfDefense9 ай бұрын
Innovation almost always comes at a cost, unfortunately - especially when it’s taken on by a small startup. But like I said in the video, i agree, it is an expensive product.
@PNWCamper19559 ай бұрын
@@LastLineOfDefense It’s not just expensive though. It’s almost laughable how much it costs.
@joemamamia17519 ай бұрын
@@PNWCamper1955 And the fuel consumption alone is wild compared to other capable propane fire pits. just 6 hours off a 20lb tank? Yikes. It's an awesome product for sure. BUT insanely expensive startup and operating costs. It's honestly the only reason I prefer Ignik vs LavaBox... Yeah, the LavaBox can output more BTU's but the fuel consumption is where you need to outweigh the actual benefit of those added btu's...
@tomgriffith86019 ай бұрын
I've got 2 different sparklers fires, I'm drooling for this one. Price is no object when you know you can blast some heat and not burn down the area!! - Not sure where you're based, husband and I have our individual rigs in Fairplay. Thanks for not sharing the trails!!!! We locals appreciate it!!!
@PNWCamper195510 ай бұрын
This looks like a great product and I want one but I think they need to find a way to bring the cost down and make it smaller or at very least have folding legs and square it off. It looks like a pain to pack. They’re on to something though.
@4844659 ай бұрын
Agreed- They should modify the legs to a spindle style you can screw in for setup & stow internally for travel. I’d bet they find a way to reduce the cost in the next gen, when Mike said it was **expensive** I thought he was going to drop an $899 price tag but $1,300 🤯
@PNWCamper19559 ай бұрын
@@484465 Totally. I usually have no problem splurging on camping gear either but this is just outside the realm of any justification. It feels wasteful.
@df44610 ай бұрын
There's old-timey words for things like "official KZfaq filming space". Here's one: Studio.
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
Eh, it's just a wall with a bunch of boxes and a few printers in it. "KZfaq filming space" sounds more ghetto, which it is, haha.
@adamw446910 ай бұрын
With every fire pit, you get an autographed picture of Loki the “wolf dog”.
@wkwrpg43929 ай бұрын
Nice, I look forward to seeing the product take off. Seems like the perfect companion to a tripod camp grill.
@jhbryaniv10 ай бұрын
Woohoo I thought this is what you were loading in that Instagram post. 😂
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
Haha indeed it was!
@jhbryaniv10 ай бұрын
@@LastLineOfDefenseI love the design work that went into this thing. It really is expensive, but I but sounds worth it.
@crnzsrt10 ай бұрын
When one of the guys said that it was so complex it couldn’t be made anywhere else made me chuckle. Calm down good sir.
@timdavenport294310 ай бұрын
Wow😳 Mind blowing RD and technology 🤯 I totally understand the price point now.👍👍
@maligatorbaseball278910 ай бұрын
That looks badass. Too bad I don’t have money to buy one, haha.
@SD8_9 ай бұрын
The new Ignik Firecan Elite is 50k BTU, vs the Howl at 62k but one is $250, lasts much longer and is much more packable vs $1,300.
@LastLineOfDefense9 ай бұрын
Yeah, BTU isn't a very accurate measurement of felt warmth. Firecans are cool (I have Lavabox), but they put out heat straight up to be blown away. If there's no wind at all, and you kind of stand above them, and manage to not burn your clothes with the flame moving around - they do put out some heat. Certainly the price is right, and they provide good ambiance - but for actual warmth, nothing touches the Howl currently. Is it worth the price? Eh, to some people, but not all.
@SD8_9 ай бұрын
@@LastLineOfDefense Good take. You are right in that BTU aren't the only measurement of heat, but they're probably the most measurable. I like the Howl, a lot, but with a Firecan with lava rocks there's also emanating heat. I believe the Howl is definitely warmer, just don't know that the higher output is worth 5x+. I only mention all this because overlanding has moved towards a totally inaccessible price point, where costs aren't correlated to expenses, but to the market. I'm certain these guys invested a ton of time and resources to bring this to life, but so did every startup, many of which do value accessibility.
@chublez9 ай бұрын
@SD8_ yea. I'm with you. I'll be waiting for the more realistic brand making the same thing, or actually tackling it in my garage with some tubing and a welder.
@jameswhittington57929 ай бұрын
Hopefully this is a product that can inspire other companys to use the tech and we can get better fire pits in campsites. Awesome vid as usual man thanks
@amorton9410 ай бұрын
Gonna be watching this one first thing in the morning. 👍
@deucebigs986010 ай бұрын
Very cool. Even more expensive and uses a ton of propane so i'm out, but very cool
@jtaco6610 ай бұрын
Double duty and use it at home in the backyard when you’re to lazy to start a fire. That would speed up the recoupe of the price tag
@HowlCampfires10 ай бұрын
You're onto something. We've been having the full campfire experience in some pretty cool places: the back deck, the trailhead, the ski area parking lot, etc. A buddy in Alabama is about to install one on the deck of his fishing boat. Definitely opens up some options, including the freedom in a burn ban.
@JasonHalladay10 ай бұрын
That's my plan for sure! 👍
@kengeroo10 ай бұрын
need a mini-howl !
@kengeroo9 ай бұрын
the yelp.
@84SuperDom10 ай бұрын
way too Gucci for me at $1300!
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
Yeah you'd have to use it a fair bit definitely to justify the cost
@J.Young80810 ай бұрын
YT put up a “mix” of your videos so this current one is the thumbnail and it took me until 12:51 to realize that blonde who I thought had no relation to the video was Paris Hilton. 😂😂😂
@andysnow74589 ай бұрын
Nothing better than enjoying the serene outdoor nightscape while sitting next to a roaring fossil-fuel burning jet engine! I want 2.
@SteveM_LX47010 ай бұрын
I run a propane fire pit instead of building a campfire. Only purpose is some national parks don’t allow anything but propane during fire bans.
@senrusho10 ай бұрын
Super duper cool. It's expensive but for my build I'm actually more concerned about the size. I have no where near enough space for it in my Jeep.
@HowlCampfires10 ай бұрын
Jeeps can be tight, but you might be surprised. If you have room for a bundle of wood, you probably have room for a Howl.
@kapolani95399 ай бұрын
I'm curious how this compares to the lava box. I have one of those and it works great.
@Travisharger9 ай бұрын
The price is tough but I get it and would actually pull the trigger, but the lack of folding legs might be a deal breaker for me. Ugh.
@hawaiianstylen9 ай бұрын
$1,300 damn 😮
@chrisherbert44549 ай бұрын
It's 1299.00 if your curious, that's crazy money for what it is think it needs to be around 700.00 for most people to be able to afford it. Neat tech but unrealistic for probably most of your viewers.
@amorton949 ай бұрын
41:57 Excuse me sir, it's actually Northglenn, not Thornton. 😉
@mynameisjeff45119 ай бұрын
Very cool
@sooperdt10 ай бұрын
NEED,NEED,NEED,A $1300 FIRE PIT!
@peterdement2 ай бұрын
Legs need to fold/detach to make overall package more compact.
@LSULaw20009 ай бұрын
Here's an idea... buy a $30-$50 propane burner stand used for turkey frying or seafood boils. Then, put a
@LastLineOfDefense9 ай бұрын
Maybe I’ll try it. I’d guess something like that would work, albeit you’d need to be closer and heat would be much higher and it’d be less ideal for warming your body/legs. A little more cumbersome and less effective, but cheaper for sure
@LSULaw20009 ай бұрын
Yep, I get it. I'm just saying that if the big selling point of this fire pit is the IR heat, there are cheaper ways to get that radiated heat. One idea is putting cast iron onto any type of fire pit. I just used the propane stand as an example because they are really cheap. @@LastLineOfDefense
@oAngelz9 ай бұрын
Love the fire-pit! Seeing these videos makes me antsy awaiting the yearly Gift Guide! Any plans on one of those this year?
@zoo2you9 ай бұрын
Could you do an early Xmas buying list?
@paulsanchez21639 күн бұрын
Insane price
@MisterTengu10 ай бұрын
*Hank Hill has entered the comment section.
@J.Young80810 ай бұрын
With that much snow I figured you were just in your yard.
@jdm80999 ай бұрын
Super bad A. I hope they patented the hell out of it! Well over $1300 worth of “low” volume manufacturing. At 6hrs of burn time, will it freeze a 5gallon tank? My
@MisterTengu10 ай бұрын
That's a cool product. Besides for the weight and price, I've also made it a point to never buy the gen 1 of anything.
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
I'm a big gen 1 / early adopter / help pay for innovation type of guy honestly. But yeah, the 2nd gen often is improved upon, but sometimes more expensive.
@MisterTengu10 ай бұрын
@@LastLineOfDefense that's awesome that you help drive innovation and bring new products to the market! I try to be a buy once cry once kind of guy.
@HowlCampfires9 ай бұрын
@@MisterTengu We're pretty aligned on the buy once cry once mentality. That's a lot of why it took us three years to come to market. Couldn't in good conscience let customers be our guinea pigs. That said, a man's got to have a code, and yours is a good one.
@amorton949 ай бұрын
Super cool that they went through how it works, but are they not worried about someone ripping this off in some form?
@HowlCampfires9 ай бұрын
Great question. It's a pretty revolutionary tech. We're happy to share about it because 1) the US Patent Office is protecting us stateside) and 2 it's way too difficult and precise for an Alibaba knock-off factory to replicate.
@Master-Blaster-4x48 ай бұрын
it needs to be $1k or under 😊
@Gregster310 ай бұрын
I like them propane fire cans better (: small and compact. Definitely a small niche market for this pricey howl product.
@GATORADDAM9 ай бұрын
I will spend 1300 dollars on a gas fire when hell freezes over! Plus I'm in Florida. Nice and warm!
@seandodson28199 ай бұрын
When are these beanies coming Mike?!
@bencheng7309 ай бұрын
Do you like using this more than the bio light fire pit?
@HowlCampfires9 ай бұрын
BioLites, Solo Stoves, Breeos, etc. solve for some issues. But since they burn wood, you can't use them in a burn ban.
@sacp22739 ай бұрын
Tropane Pank!
@JasonWh9 ай бұрын
I finished paying for mine 2 days ago and had no idea the engineering that went into the making of this product. The info will be good around the Howl unit, explaining to all benefiting from it just how complex the engineering is when designing the unit.
@patrickkamer392410 ай бұрын
Better watch out Hallmark got sued for using her picture with that phrase.
@craiga914410 ай бұрын
Not exactly accurate. I have a propane setup for warmth in an open area. They exist and output a lot of heat. This is however, smaller🤷🏻♂️
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah - I have rocket style, and the big bucket style ones - but both different concepts and wouldn't really be viable in the same settings. But in a relatively enclosed space, they do work!
@anthonyperry586117 күн бұрын
To say that other propane fire pits don’t put out heat, is what you call a “marketing pitch.” What most of those other fire pits actually do, is provide a somewhat natural fire experience, in a more practical and compact form factor…..while giving off warmth in the process. As cool as it is, it’s not very practical for most applications and it’s definitely overpriced in my opinion
@LastLineOfDefense16 күн бұрын
I don't think anyone said other fire pits don't give off heat, that'd be impossible, because physics.
@benjaminhrabina4194Ай бұрын
Ridiculous price
@HesperianHorsePower10 ай бұрын
Answer: NO!
@full_metal245210 ай бұрын
I think it’s the term “piece of kit” that makes it “hipster” and kinda 🌈
@LastLineOfDefense10 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, I don't disagree - though I never used those words in the video I'm talking about.