What says, "HEY you don't own me" then wearing a Matthews shirt when you review a Hoyt. I LOVE IT

This is dedication to giving us great bow reviews. Thank you!

Love the Mathew’s shirt on the hoyt review 😂😂

Maybe I missed it somewhere and if I did let me know. Love watching your bow reviews even if I'm not in the market for one to just see what people came out with for the year. Would it be possible on these bow videos that when the news ones drop you put up a master list at the end of the video to show what the bows rank against the others. Thanks and keep up the awesome reviews!

I agree about carbon vs aluminum. I shot a bunch of bows when looking for a new bow this year and the RX7 is what I ended up with, just an easier/smoother draw cycle

I went and shot both today and I agree! I love that new color! Hoyt did an awesome job this year. I have an rx7... don't really see a big enough difference for me to upgrade but it's definitely slight improvement on a bow I didn't think could be improved!

You sound pretty impressed for a Hoyt review, so that speaks pretty highly of them. Thanks MFJJ!

I’m not bagging on your reviews but your second shot with the rx8 on the vibration was 6 something. The camera was on the reader and when you shot that was the number and when you moved it went to 12. I think you may want to record the reader at the shot and then review the footage for the number. May give you different reading on those bows you thought read high and felt great.

They should make the go sticks able to have weights added and removed so they also double as stabilizers.

FMJJ You rock buddy. You really gave me some good information on these new Hoyt bows that I have been waiting for. I currently shoot a RX-1 or I am definitely on to my pro shop and order up the RX-8 sick review Josh keep up the killer work!!!

Let's just take a moment to appreciate Josh being on his knees really warming up the foreplay at the start of the review. Jokes aside good stuff man, thanks for what ya do

I have the VTM34 and the RX-7 Ultra, and I completely agree the carbon is easier to pull back and they are set up identically.

Whoa - for that carbon to produce so little vibration, have an easy/smooth dry cycle, and to produce a 335ish ATA speed is crazy good.

It’s interesting that the carbon feels easier to you…I’ve worked in a pro shop for a year and a half, and I’ve always thought the aluminums pulled easier than the carbon. Really interesting.

The new Bows really give me the vibe of a refined version of the Hoyt Axius Alpha series. Also Hoyt listened to me on IG when I said that they needed to bring back the grey risers

The things I look at when I go to buy a bow are.1 price. 2 adjustability. 3 speed. 4 comfort and comfort to me is the Backwall. I currently own a 2018 bear divergent 28 and 2020 bear status eko. I've been in every year to see the new bows and shoot them but I never commit to buying one I just get new strings and cables made.

For me I shot these back to back today and the alpha x had just the Slightest hand feel to me compared to the rx8 which was just dead in the hand . So for my money I'm going with the rx8 ultra was super impressive just a absolute joy to shoot

I have found the exact same thing with the rx7 and vtm, even at 74lbs I found it pulled easier then the vtm at 70

Been looking forward to these releases as I'm due a new bow. Was excited when I read the specs for the RX8 Ultra, then I saw the price and my stomach started to hurt 😢

These videos are great. Looks like a solid drop for Hoyt but I will stick with my Rx5 ultra another year.

Thanks for your solid reviews MFJJ. I do wish you still did the riser length measurement and not just the axel to axel.

Quick question on your review process - why don't you include a category for "quietness"? Love the way you do the objective and subjective scoring model. Gives the viewer something more tangible and organized to consider when making a decision.

Damn Hoyt did better on the vibration test then the Mathew’s with there fancy limbs

So is the carbon RX8 going to be $3,000 this year? And the aluminum one has to be at least 1500. These bow companies need to get their prices in check. We all know archery equipment does not hold value like a gun does. And all they do is minimal changes every year. Driving me nuts! Anybody else sick of the prices?

Going through these comments & for the life of me I can never figure why there isn't at least one guy piping up how these new bows are nice but he's gonna go ahead & stick with his Pearson Spoiler for another year. 😏

It would be cool if you added one other test for the guys like shorter guys like Dan@Elkshape. 27" to 28' draw with the bow max out and twisted up above speck with a 480g arrow or whatever weight is common for hunting... Or just make Dan be your shorter draw height poundage monkey tester lol. Looks to be solid bows this year from Hoyt.

I've noticed the same thing when drawing back on the carbon vs aluminum Hoyts. The carbon is easier and smoother on the draw cycle.

Shot both today love them but I did notice that the rx-8 was smoother

Once the bow is in tune you shouldn’t be messing with anything anyways. So adjustment on the cams is kinda a waist imo!

I shot the rx-8 ultra and I'm in love with the bow and I'm a Mathews guy cant wait to get mine

3 Days ago @ our local range a friend who just back to archery after a 20 yr lay off… anyways he picked up a fully loaded rx8 shot it for 3 months no glitches 👌🏾however 3 days ago ? While we both were practicing at 70 I saw him take a last shot then we took a short 5 minute break..well after the break we went back to shooting however when he went to draw his bow? He noticed the string was slacked and twisted on the top cam… After closer inspection the top cam mod screw sheered off causing loosening twisting of both mods binding on the top and bottom limbs…. 🤫🤔my buddy never once dry fired the bow and was using correct spined 340 arrow arrow @ 70 lbs 420 grains🤷‍♂️true story in 6/12/24

over 2 grand for a warmer hand lol cause the carbon weighs as much as the others screw that they can keep it the alpha seems sweet I will wait for Mathews to drop before I go to the shop thx for the video on there web page it shows 2049 for the carbon and 1349 and 1449 for the alpha

Hey Brother. If I would've watched this video first, my comment on the 33in version video is pretty much null and void now. Now I can see the results of an axle to axle length more to my liking. Thank you. I still like the looks of it.

It's because the carbon is warmer and therefore you feel more comfortable, just a little bit more relaxed.

I see youre doing the competitor shirt thing again ha!

I really don’t trust the vibration meter, like it went from 15 to 11 that’s like 30% different

It would be nice if you made a score list graphic for all these new bow reviews

Hmmm are you always shooting the carbon one first and then the aluminium one if you look back? Maybe its just that lol.. Like first bow you had 100% energy, but then after few shots you go down to 90% energy and now you change bow and draw that and it feels like its harder maybe. Otherwise the logical answer would be that the carbon one maybe is so soft it actually contracts (tiny bit, bringing the limbs closer together) when you pull it making it weaker poundage just in that moment until its drawn, then the let off takes over and lessens the strain on the riser again bringing it back to "normal". And the aluminium one is then harder and wont contract as much, or even, and all the way through the pull its staying the same poundage. But I never had a carbon bow. So I dont know how stiff/solid they actually are. Im about to maybe get one.. between either alpha x33 rx8 or rx7 atm (so thx for these videos, they are great, im studying em rly close). Back to point. But I would acuse the energy level first if you are shooting the carbon bow first always. But if its something physical then that is the only place there can be a difference (for something that drastic feeling). Bc it cant be the limbs... Cant be fittings/cams (as you said, they are the same). So it has to be in the riser/design/something if the phenomena is legit. And we already know there is a difference in the materials. So is the "logic" place. Just my thoughts tho.

Does the aluminum bow offer flex where the carbon doesn’t? I’ve felt that before, and went the the rx7. Seems like there’s some “power loss” on the draw for aluminum flexing more and the carbon transferring everything without flexing.

Great video. Can we get Lift 29 vs RX8 30 at 80lb? Cannot find any videos with 80lb speed tests! Crazy! All KZfaq videos make them head to head with 70lb and no 80lb review. I think more people are looking to use 80 than reviewers realize.

I've felt the same thing with the carbon/aluminum. I think it's the difference in brace heights. Last year there was a slight difference in lengths. I wonder if that's a contributing factor.

Podium archer is the the John Lusk of bow reviews 🤣

Hey Josh! I purchased a Ventum Pro from you last year, do you still have the trade-up program running?

Love the Mathews shirt during a Hoyt review 😂

some nice tweaks to a solid line but a lot of reflex compared to other options. I like the breakdown with the two bows at the same time

I was wondering how the back wall would have scored if you had set the stops for extra hard. Would that have given them a five in that category?

Yes it’s like the old cam 1/2 #2 cam and #3 cam

Little under the weather still a great quality video I heart hoyt

I have an rx7 and i think ill just stick with it. See what happens in a year or two

when you review any bow it should be done with a sight on it to check for sight picture interference and fit.

Really well done. Great video, Thank you!

Elite Ethos added that new lower front stab mount… would be cool to know if the old and new Hoyt Bow feet models are compatible

Would it make sense to check poundage before physical bow measurements? Ignorant question, maybe, but I didn't known if ATA, brace height, etc could change with the limb bolt settings.

How would the draw cycle feel compared to the Bowtech SR?

That low on vibration with the alpha x and you didn’t put the “butt plug” on?!

Was i hearing the faint click of possibly the Stan thumb clicker? Growing on you? Just got mine in the mail from you today.....thanks JJ for all these vids

You know what I think? Huh? Do ya??? Well let me tell ya! I think MFJJ is the bomb! Great reviews. Keep them coming. I’ve always owned a Mathews but have been seriously considering Hoyt/Elite/Bowtech for my next bow.

I love my old Hoyt but I’m gonna spend my $1300 on a New Black widow Recurve

Love your reviews!!! I got my Alpha X 2 weeks ago after shooting it and the new lift and absolutely loved the Hoyt . I have one question though you did the speed test with a wisker bisket and we all know that loses speed. worst of all you used a fall way rest on the Mathews, should you not do all tests with the same arrow rest to have an actual fair comparison??? Or add the additional 3-4 fps loss to the speeds.

so happy about the "nipple of destiny", my VTM bottom cam looks rough 😅

Didn't hear if you mentioned the new color, I like the new color much better than the previous years although it looks like a Mathews now it still is a much better option.

The carbon rizer must be flexing, or Hoyts using different limbs on there carbon bows, and aren't saying they are. Check the cams and mods for differences, flat spots ect...

These reviews are very helpful

Great reviews as usual. Just curious as to what type of target you are shooting into??

I noticed that too that the rx-7 seems easier to draw than the vtm but it’s very minor

Awesome review MFJJ! You probably mentioned it and I missed it, but what were your opinions on the Let off "footer" having a hard and Extra Hard backwall setting/option?

I am wondering if it has something to do with riser flex. The different materials (carbon / aluminum), I am sure, flex differently. Could that be influencing the "feel" of the pull? Just a thought.

You tell us how much your pulling back but why arent you tell us holding weight?

I bought my VTM 34 in February. How does the vtm compare to these new bows? Worth upgrading?

Can you do or show a tuning video for the new system thanks.

Please do the vibration test with the heavy arrow vs light arrow.

Are you going to review APA bows? Curious

Could the difference be the weight increase on your extended arm along with the added stiffness.

Do you have notes on vibration on the rx5 and rx7 and sounds decibel to compare? Thank for your comments

How much better is the rx8 vs rx7?? Great reviews by the way 😊😊😊

Could the pressure on the front of the riser from your fingers effect the vibration numbers more pressure lower numbers or vice versa?

Random question...you ironically wearing a Mathews shirt while reviewing the Hoyt bow and wearing a Hoyt shirt while reviewing the Mathews bow, or just a funny coincidence? :)

shheeesh having a baby on the way sure inconveniences me getting my new bow I’d sure love that alpha X😢

Can someone explain why reflex is an issue? Ive never heard of it being addressed until i started watching these review videos a month or so ago. Even other reviews I've seen, it isn't mentioned. He says forgiveness, but what makes it unforgiving? Thanks in advance!

I’ll never pull back a aluminum bow again! Carbon all the way !

My rx-7 ultra at 80 pounds seems like it draws easier than my vtm 31 at 70 pounds.

Do you think it’s possible to put the new cam on an rx7?😊

the hoyt go stix work on the PSE shoodown pro. make sure to thank jake in the video

I feel opposite. I think the alluminum draws smoother

I was wondering if it matters how hard you hold the bow when doing the vibration test

Any ultras yet?

What let-off setting did you test in? Just curious for the speed and DL tests.

Man, no love for us longer draw guys from any of the bow companies this year!

It could be because the biw itself is lighter and your not holding as much weight out in front of you

Will the back wall rating change since there is a stiff back wall draw stop option?

The rx7 ultra was definitely smoother than the ventm pro to me

Carbons do draw easier in my experience as well.

Mfjj you sound sick or your talking too much and lost your voice . Hope you’re not sick ! Love the bow review .

I think the carbon flexes that’s why it feels easier

What bow on your channel has the highest score

The prices on the hoyt website are 100 higher on both

You need to attach the vibration monitor to the riser. You're measuring the vibration in the sight bar. The less the bow vibrates the more that bar does

Can't wait to buy an used rx7 from someone now that the new bows are out.

I like that you measure it, but reflex means absolutely nothing. If it did, we wouldn’t see it on all these bows

Noticed the same different in carbon vs aluminum. Carbon seems easier to draw... maybe something to do with the riser material? who knows, my IQ isn't rated enough ha