They don't want to make it upgradeable, they want to sell another computer to you.
@justadude8716 Жыл бұрын
You can get this computer about ~250 open box what do you expect?
@chere1005 ай бұрын
Except, I don't want to buy another computer from HP, because they pull this shlt. So~ how are they supposed to sell me another computer? :\
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
It's upgradeable man I just did mine and and it's the none gaming version
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
2 4 pin and 7 pin into motherboard got you
@markm.3740 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Hoosier Hardware that HP's decisions to make everything on this system so proprietary have rendered it not worth upgrading. Sadly, I went this route a couple years ago because it was the PC that I could afford and I thought it would be a good foundation for a future upgrade. I'll list all the details of what I did below, so you don't have to... Or, at least, know what you're in for if you want to upgrade one of these systems. If I had to do it over again, I would just build a new PC at this point. During Best Buy's Black Friday sale in 2019, I picked up an HP TP01-0034 (Intel Core i7-8700 with a 256 SSD) for $479. I planned to upgrade the video card, but sat on the sidelines until the crypto craze came to an end and GPU prices came down to 'normal' levels. At that point, I knew the 180W PSU wouldn't drive any of the relatively current GPUs. So, I scoured the internet and found there are two (proprietary) HP PSUs that could be bought for inflated prices when compared to standard PSUs. The options are the 400W PSU (L04618-800) and the 500W PSU (L05757-800). Both can be ordered from HP at partsurfer.hp.com or from other resellers. I went with the 500W PSU (~$150 shipped vs $105 shipped for the 400W PSU). Installation of the PSU was plug and play. Next up was the video card. I ordered a GIGABYTE Eagle OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB as it is a 'shorter' length card with only 2 fans. The card barely fits in the case. However, HP's absurd board design places one of the two 4-pin power supply cables for the motherboard nearly directly in line with the video card. When both are plugged in, the plug obstructs the video card from fitting straight in the slot and pushes the card on an angle that I was not comfortable with leaving that way. I ended up de-pinning the plug and cutting down the plastic connector to no longer come in contact with the video card housing. I re-pinned the cable and wrapped the wires (separately and then together) with electrical tape to keep them directed away from the GPU. WARNING: If you are not knowledgeable with working with electronics that store electricity, do not try de-pinning a PSU. The case now has the needed power and a more current GPU. It runs current games smoothly and with good frame rates; however, this highlighted the next problem with this PC. Airflow. It has none. That is a requirement with modern GPUs. They need good airflow. This case doesn't have it. And, as other's have commented about HP's production of e-waste, this is another example; this PC's motherboard only has a single fan header and no place to mount a second case fan. At this point, I'm either going to get creative with the case and find a way to retrofit the case to support a 2 fan setup that run off of a single 3 pin fan header (and free up the air intake) or I'm just going to build a new system and carry over the components that are worth keeping. If you have one of these systems and are thinking of upgrading it, you now have more information of what will be involved. Good luck and happy gaming!
@calmcauley877 Жыл бұрын
I got a hp pavilion TP01-2000na I just wanted to make it be able to play a few games, nothing bang up to date, just maybe some of my 360 era titles in better quality and higher fps, would somthing like a gtx 960 or gtx 1060 (i dont think they require power supply) with some added RAM be plug and play ?
@markm.3740 Жыл бұрын
@Cal McAuley Both of those look to be drawing 120W max, which I wouldn't think leaves enough power for the rest of the system. You might get equal performance from a more modern card that has a lower power draw.
@Jeagletboard9 ай бұрын
@@markm.3740 how did you get the cooling down?
@slaydog51027 ай бұрын
You should've just built a PC at that point
@markm.37407 ай бұрын
@@slaydog5102 Yep, it was bad money after good money on it...
@Halsafe2 жыл бұрын
Gotta remember these weren't made as gaming systems but home desktop systems. I picked up the i5 11400 variant and it's pretty nice to use as a normal workstation. Sure they're upgradable but most end users won't ever perform an upgrade. At most I see end users upgrade to dual channel ram instead of the single channel they ship with.
@saysbadman Жыл бұрын
There really is no excuse for their anti consumer business practices. They contribute to pigeon holed hardware replacement to hp or equally overpriced 3rd party resellers as well as increased E-waste. I usually dodge hp because of these practices, but there was the hp tp01 1023w on clearance at Walmart for $249. I snagged it with expectations to make a plex server or gift it to my nephew to game on. Of coarse my nephew wanted and received it. It was no issue slapping his pcie powered 1050 ti into it, but because of hp proprietary shenanigans he is pretty much topped out. I plan to gift him my 1070 ti, but now I have to find an adapter to use with an aftermarket PSU for my old GPU.
@98523238 ай бұрын
Somebody who only needs a general purpose computer would save money and get a better build quality if they got a used core i series system or even core 2 quad system. But yeah I understand most wouldn’t know how to perform upgrades to those systems either. You save a lot of money being a computer geek 😅
@ChrisWMF12 күн бұрын
You can get an atx adapter for these now for like 10 bucks. Also my opinion is they just wanted to be cheap. Strip down all the extra bells and whistles from a normal motherboard and power supply and they save some money on both. They have engineers who would do that to justify their existence.
@guigui4464Ай бұрын
Buy a sfx psu, the 4pins plugs are 2x 4pins cpu. Jump the green and black cable on the ATX 24pins cable. For the proprietary plug leave it disconnected. My psu screwed only 2 of the 4 screws and I might have to drill holes under the case for airflow.
@davidrosario89923 жыл бұрын
Many years from now when it becomes a budget used desktop, I can see gamers adding a secondary PSU using a “add2psu” adapter. Not exactly the safest thing sure but it could work, especially in a bigger case
@user-hq1el5ld1o Жыл бұрын
How? Is safe for gpu?
@PinkyTech3 жыл бұрын
It is maddening that OEMs do this! Like Dell once you get past the 7010/9010, the newer models use proprietary Mobo connections! Why?!?!
@kentkoontz9305 Жыл бұрын
Amazon has both 400 and 500 watt PSUs New, I recently installed my 500 watt PSU but they are not cheap...
@anthonyholloway43723 жыл бұрын
Search l04618-800 and choose encompass computers for the 400 watt power supply for this unit. Its about $80.00. This is the HP location to purchase. People will scalp everything. They make me sick. I need one myself, but dont want to spend the 80 + shipping. I have the i3 8100 version. Oh btw, how is Fort Wayne?
@HoosierHardware3 жыл бұрын
That's good information to have! As always the fort keeps rolling onward!
@cliffbrown421710 ай бұрын
Can you recommend a great desk top Home computer tower with 16gb of ram and lots of ssd storage space that would allow for future soft ware updates like windows 12 13 14 ..... thanks.
@PokèMyBalls3 жыл бұрын
Once you see the HP GTX 1060 you can't unsee it! :/
@rainbowpcdash24 күн бұрын
Here's how you do it you use one extra power supply and a stock one That's how you do it then there's a green while that you just ran awhile from one power supply to the other power supply
@jeremywhitesell2688 Жыл бұрын
I just returned mine. Thank goodness i didnt open it in the week i had it.
@PCTechHustle3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I picked up the 4700 variant and was disappointed to discover all the HP proprietary connections on the motherboard.
@cerescop2 жыл бұрын
The screw pattern is wrong for over the counter motherboards, the in out in front is soldered to the motherboard. Nothing is useful again but the memory, storeage and the Ram.
@realchad5 ай бұрын
Hey man! I wanted to replace the psu on this pc and idk what psu to choose can you help me choose one out? Idk if you are gonna see this but if you do please reply to this😀
@StingyGeek3 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is what makes pre-builts such poor value.
@MrSamadolfo3 жыл бұрын
Buddy, I have a few questions, you mentioned that it comes with an Unbalanced Pair of Memory Sticks. You didn't mention if this affects Dual Channel Memory Performance? I assume a must upgrade is to replace one of the memory sticks to 4/4 or 8/8 and make it balanced and that will improve memory performance? Just for fun can you actually test to see if it really truly 'boots' with a no6pin video card? Never assume. Maybe the HP motherboard bios has something that prevents booting. We need to know if it boots fine with an RX560 and a 1050ti. Is it plug n play? Its not a gaming pc so its kinda normal for Dell and HP and Lenovo to cripple the motherboard. I assume tho that with time the aftermarket community in ASIA will create the Power Supply Adapters necessary for the motherboard but then you will still need a Wheel Cutter to cut out the back of the case abit. The integrated graphics on that cpu is pretty decent its not too far behind a 1030. Passmark shows 2128, wheras a 1030 passmark score is 2620. Which should be more than enough for Indies Games and GOG Games. Of course please take into account thats raw performance. The 1030 will pull ahead even more because of its 2gb of ddr5 plus if the game is optimized for invidia drivers than you get a boost there as well. I just checked Microcenter, Westmont IL Theres over 25 brand new gt1030 ddr5 2gb in stock for $105 plus tax Pickup the pavilion, pickup a replacement ram stick, and pickup a 1030 and that should hold u over for a good long while. Dont assume video cards are coming back anytime soon. They mite never ever come back. Thanks for the video buddy.
@98523238 ай бұрын
No computer should ship with an SSD smaller than 500GB. Also a 1TB hard drive is getting a bit small for a hard drive these days..should be atleast 2TB. Computers in 2008 with hard drives shipped with more storage than half these computers with SSD’s now. What a joke.
@HOLLASOUNDS2 жыл бұрын
Is a Used hp pavilion desktop 590 any good for Music production software like Reason and Abalten? I'm not interested in games.
@MrKsan05 Жыл бұрын
My Best friend mom wanted a computer for Home work, no gaming and I picked out this HP but with the Ryzen 7 5600G and 15Gigs Ram. She loves it and i was happy about picking out this one until i watched some videos on it. Now I'm a little sad I didnt know it was proprietary
@rrswitch48 Жыл бұрын
I own this piece of junk. DOA after exactly 3 years, Tp01-0014 Junk!
@PokèMyBalls3 жыл бұрын
@Hoosier So it's kind of like the ATX 12 VO PSU that LTT did a video on? Different pinout though.
@tomdillan3 жыл бұрын
Excel link with hp power supply numbers and wattage you might be able to swap with.
@yologaming81137 ай бұрын
I have trhis PC wanted to know if i can lay it on its side?
@scribbles97217 ай бұрын
I have this exact pc and I just bought a Corsair 750 ps for my newly bought rx6600 and I think ur right that the weird multi color cable is not gonna work with my new ps. Anyone know how to help cuz I waited a week with no pc for this
@PIZZA-ex1fy Жыл бұрын
I have a GEFORCE GTX 1050ti 4gb by NVIDA card I want to install in this unit. Can I use this?
@qtbanants51613 жыл бұрын
I found a HP M01-F0016 with 250w, what gpu do you think I can add on this rig?
@zackm991029 күн бұрын
Mine has the Ryzen 7 4700g and can't even play 7 days to die or like any games really besides sims 4
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
Its upgradeable i just did mine and xheap
@rh61082 жыл бұрын
but if youre looking for a PC that can apparently deliver 4K at 60FPS video streaming and has all the latest wifi and bluetooth, has no interest in gaming and no interest in upgrading this seems perfect.
@chrismcgraw33993 жыл бұрын
i bought an acer n50 nitro pc with a r5 3500 about 978$ cdn and it was the cheapest to get a somewhat decent gpu for my rig , put my 1050 in my son's pc to replace his 1030 i paid too much for. i also switched his R3 3100 for the R5 3500.i have put all the remaining parts in the acer pc and my youngest daughter asked me to have it ....... so, Buying prebuilt for the gpu didnt work as expected. and now my other daughter is like i want one too so i'm not out of the woods just yet lol . the acer pc also has some proprietary connectors for sata and psu, the cooler is also with screws not in standard configuration and the dvd drive( yes they still exist lol) also has some proprietary cabling pluging in a dock to slide the "laptop looking" dvd drive in. it has a 1tb hdd and the mb has a m.2 slot but i have to remove the hdd bay and the dvd drive bay since both cover the system where the m.2 slot is . i bought the original prebuilt at a nearby staples store . it seems to suffer from the same 1 8gb stick disease as mostly all prebuilt i've seen so far. now i have a all black generic gtx1650 4gb gddr5 with a big sticker saying " don't touch " on the gpu fan that even gpu-z cannot identify who built it with the lookup button lol XD. it's looks is almost like buying a chinese card knockoff from aliexpress lol
@makedaevilmage Жыл бұрын
I just found a used one online for just 150 euro, locally. Just checking to make sure if its worth it to perhaps re-sell or just sell all the parts loose. It still comes with a gtx 1050 ti and all that.Re-selling the cpu and gpu in my country would already make me a profit and have the rest of the parts left over ... too bad the motherboard and the psu are a bitch to transplant ...
@satisfactoryinc92802 жыл бұрын
I just took the ryzen 5 2400g from mine and bought rog b450f for $80 and got apex going at 75-115fps 1080p nearly max setting lol
@damiensanges6218 Жыл бұрын
No proprietary is tfx power not atx
@EastAngliaUK3 жыл бұрын
glad I don't have a system like this.
@Obie3272 жыл бұрын
Hey Hoosier I like this HP Case.. I found one today actually with i7 8700 and 8 gigs of DDR4. Having the 310 watt PSU probably affords me a GPU upgrade over the intel HD 630 integrated graphics. GTX 1050ti/1650 for light gaming? I'm pretty stoked on upgrading it with fast storage and GPU.
@tyler9753 Жыл бұрын
i dont think their psu has a pcie cable for those integrated graphics version
@slaydog51027 ай бұрын
@@tyler9753???
@gdrriley4203 жыл бұрын
HP back to their custom PSU roots. I hate they do this, intels already given you a 12VO only standard why not use that.
@WarLordN1k3 жыл бұрын
This is sad. Locking such a solid CPU in a usless mobo. I just got an older Lenovo ThinkStation S30 with a Xeon E5 1620 and 32 gb of quad channel ddr3 ram for 500 usd and have all the room and power for most mid tier GPUs. Used workstations with a GPU upgrade is the best bet most have the way computer component prices have been lately.
@HoosierHardware3 жыл бұрын
Lenovo, at least in the past, has had some of the most consumer friendly machines I've worked with. I haven't had my hands on any of their recent desktop machines, but I love when system builders just put together a solid system that has plenty of upgrade paths available to the end user without having to go through the original manufacturer.
@WarLordN1k3 жыл бұрын
@@HoosierHardware I try to not be a fan boy and do build most of my own systems but lenovo has always been a solid option for laptops and prebuilt workstations, that you can upgrade with normal after market parts. I have worked with some of the newer server stuff but that is hard to compare to more normal gaming/home systems.
@WarLordN1k3 жыл бұрын
side note the vender i got that system from just sold out the other day. so i guess others thought it was a good deal aswell.
@alfredoalmaleljr.8542 Жыл бұрын
so , If you want HP gaming pc, buy the Omen Hp series...
@sdc3633 жыл бұрын
Over the years I've seen lots of HP prebuilds... this one might be the grossest looking one I've seen. HP has always cheaped out on PSU and Mobo, this is pretty standard for them
@greenstaraz2 жыл бұрын
Make great two bay NAS systems
@pavilionlakebooks8479 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this on a that pavilion model
@angeltorres176 Жыл бұрын
Wow VGA gots to go
2 жыл бұрын
this is e-waste, this should be illegal, I don't know why the US Government allow this type of product to be sold in the country, they obviously want customers to buy a new computer every 2 years, whoever have had a desktop PC for years, you know you always have to replace the power supply, it usually gets damage, sometimes I use the parts from different old pcs to build a nice desktop, now all of this parts are useless, HP should be sue for this.
@Chieseled_Renegade3 жыл бұрын
Hp machines being hp machines.
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
Use L77487-001 80 plus plat all connectors match even bolt pattern im tellin this pc is the same shape has victus
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
It's 500w with 8pin gpu connector 2 main 4 pin in motherboard one 7 pin it will work and only 85 bucks off eBay just bought last week
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
Let me no bro got a 4060 in mine
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
That's the part number type in google u will see exact shape has that 180 psu
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
Currently in my victus and the use in gaming pavilion it will work and cheap
@user-wp8cj2fe8e2 ай бұрын
U kinda got burnt man u could of went hp victus sell the 6400 add this PSU for free
@rakkarok55253 жыл бұрын
This kind of system is nothing but E-Waste. The CPU is the only good thing in it.
@russellcarmicheal4902 Жыл бұрын
100% agree HP Sucks.....And the bios update from their websight has been known to screw up and totally black screen you to death ....Even if you get past that it comes back to haunt you.
@slaydog51027 ай бұрын
Fact's 😂 stay away from OEM's
@marcc57683 жыл бұрын
as a PC technician who sales off-lease rigs to clients, due to it being eco-friendly. I only sell HP, Dell, Lenovo rigs to users who aren't power users. So simple office use, or web browsing or Facebook kinda tasks. Since usually the off-lease rigs I offer to clients are dead end systems and usually proprietary parts inside. If a client doesn't want off-lease then I'll go to a local SI for a new build, however, in my years of dealing with clients, I've only had to sell a brand new rig like 2x. The rest I've sold to users on a budget..and they aren't gamers. I don't have any gamer clients, since for the most part gamers, work their rigs harder than a web browsing rig or media center rig. Usually also, gamers know what they are doing with their build "usually". I know there are those who are newbs in the DIY rig building space, so have to factor that also. My own rigs have been either build by my own hands, or a local SI. I haven't gone to an SI since 2008, since I like the feeling of accomplishment after building a rig :)
@ascendedelectronics35953 жыл бұрын
never had a good experience with anything HP except the old hp tower slimelines that every school had. Laptop build quality and their desktops just suck and have dumb issues.
@kingdru_562 Жыл бұрын
I'M NOT A GAMER........................IS THIS DESKTOP OK FOR MUSIC PRODUCTION???
@zenrazor6592 ай бұрын
It's a consumer pc for web and typewriter programs 😂 Not a gaming pc! So why do you complain about it? You can't take a Fiat 500 and pretend to be upgradable to a Mercedes!😢😂😊
@MrSamadolfo3 жыл бұрын
😃 yay Indiana
@jimgreene5748 Жыл бұрын
Hold on, there! Who said this is a gaming computer? Not Costco. Their least expensive computer listed for gaming is about $900, has 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, 2TB HDD. I bought the HP primarily for communications, Internet access, and to use the Libreoffice Suite. Mine came with a Ryzen 5 5600g and a 2TB HDD. It’s way more than I need, but the lowest price I could find. If you want a gaming computer, buy one. Don’t try to make an office computer something it’s not intended to be.
@mypeeps19653 жыл бұрын
I have extra GPU's just hit me up. I'm serious! Don't you read your Instagram?
@jnbennett64962 жыл бұрын
garbage motherboard, your main platform, enough said lol, CPU only thing worth anything
@damiensanges6218 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@harryspapadopoulos88183 жыл бұрын
Ah yes good old OEM crap here lads (and that's why you should buy custom prebuilds with standard parts) you can't always know what shit they've done with the design in HP or dell or whatever.
@HoosierHardware3 жыл бұрын
Addendum: If you MUST buy a prebuilt due to market conditions, make sure to look up teardowns to see what type of proprietary crap you'll be dealing with.
@monovengbitegheclaudearmel14413 жыл бұрын
1st
@TheRedneckPreppy10 ай бұрын
Pavilions are those machines you only buy if a) It's on a murderously good sale and b) you have no intention of ever upgrading it. I bought one about five-ish or so years ago. It was an i5-8400 with 16GB of RAM, 128GB SSD and 1TB HD. But like every Pavilion, it has that gimped, non-standard 180W PSU, a proprietary motherboard and a case that can only easily use those motherboards. Outside of doubling the RAM and eventually installing Linux, I didn't touch a thing. I could edit and render 1080p video comfortably and 4K if I didn't like myself that day and didn't want to use proxy clips. Still being used today -- I passed it along to my mother. Works like a champ for what she uses it for. That said, I never recommend HP pre-builts purely because of the proprietary dead-end nature of any individual model. Pity, because they generally aren't garbage build quality...you just can't grow the machine with you. Ironically, the garbage build quality gaming PCs are actually more useful long term.