Northstar Canoe Phoenix vs NW Solo

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Happy Paddlin'

Happy Paddlin'

2 жыл бұрын

Solo canoe shoot-out and comparison! Northstar canoe fans debate this solo canoe comparison all the time and while my opinion of my favorite changes all the time, it’s fun to witness the choice through the paddling of a prospective customer. Ralph drove up from CA and had a vacation in Central Oregon and then gave me a shout to test these two on this gorgeous evening.
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@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you bring us along and share these experiences for others to learn from. Not everyone has a happy Paddlin shed in their neighborhood, and that makes these videos invaluable.
@Mark_L40
@Mark_L40 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, I’m on the east coast and have the solo canoe bug. This has helped me in my research.
@damerowr
@damerowr 2 жыл бұрын
Great evening on the river, and great canoes, Ethan. Thank you very much again for making the test paddle work!!! The Phoenix fit me like a glove! Northstar calls it good for rivers and lakes. I suspect there isn't much give one arena to the another. I have paddled many other canoes, and I would put the Phoenix pretty much at 50/50, or good for whatever you through at it. Great mix between agility and speed! For lighter weight paddlers that travel with nimble gear, the NW Solo might be a smidge easier to handle, but I don’t fit in that category, and I appreciated the higher kneeling position.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ralph, Thanks for the great comments. Ya have a heck of a strong paddle stroke. Was fun watching these canoes jump off the line when you hit the forward button! Appreciate you starring in this one!
@boatman222345
@boatman222345 9 ай бұрын
Wish I'd seen this video 6 months ago! I had a chance to buy a 3 year old Northwind Solo for $950 but the owner describes it as tippy. Enjoyed watching your client paddle…'tis always good to see someone with a refined stroke that seemed very similar to what we here in Maine call a North Woods style.
@jimfromoregonusa9899
@jimfromoregonusa9899 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Ethan...and thanks to you I own the Phoenix and totally love it...!!
@rogermcadams8806
@rogermcadams8806 Жыл бұрын
I have the Phoenix in IXP. Great boat! The design of this is ideal for what I use it for ( primarily in local river ). I
@edwardenglish6919
@edwardenglish6919 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. It answered my question about tracking.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 6 ай бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching. NW solo has better glide too. Phoenix has a bit more kneeling room and fuller around the paddler imo.
@NWKayaking
@NWKayaking 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to try more cannoeing this week
@NikonF5user
@NikonF5user Жыл бұрын
So I badly want a solo canoe before next summer, and I'm pretty sure it's going to be either Northwind Solo or a Magic. Still very curious about Swift Keewaydin and Placid Rapidfire. Question - that NW Solo with Blacklite and E6 is BEAUTIFUL. Is it worth the added cost? How much more structurally rigidity does BL give you, and does the E6 make it weight competitive with the SL? Worth the price?
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin Жыл бұрын
The E6 does shave a couple lbs off and gets back to StarLite Alum weight but with the stiff feel of double Carbon. You feel the difference between StarLite and BlackLite on the water for sure. I love wood trim too. A personal long ownership solo of mine is not going to have alum trim…just my preference. I don’t mind Alum trim on my utility tripping tandems or ww/river-runners. But for my touring solos I like wood or the no maintenance/light weight E6.
@carllamb1565
@carllamb1565 Жыл бұрын
Durability question Ethan- I’ve got a white gold NW Solo, before they stopped doing them. How aggressive or not should I be with river paddling? Im tracking that Cl 3 is no place for it. But I think I’ve seen you in some maybe Cl 2 stuff with a starlight….
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin Жыл бұрын
StarLite, BlackLite and Whitegold will all see damage (but in a slightly different way) if you take a loaded impact on sharp rocks. The outer skin coat resins will chip or get little fractures first. Then, with heavier impacts, you can flex the lamination and you see some light colored “stretch marks” on the inside. StarLite will do this first and Whitegold is less likely to do so (I think it may be stouter than BlackLite under some hits). Pretty unlikely to fracture all the way through a Whitegold unless you pin and fill/strain. The outer resin hits are easy fixes so I basically don’t care about those (as you saw in vid w StarLite). Bigger flex hits might need a little glass reinforcing which is easy but a bit more noticeable. So…if I’m on a class 2/3 run and I see deep water routes I know I can hit then I would run Whitegold. But, if I’m not sure, I’m carrying. And, my comfort level with the sound of my canoe slamming into rocks may be a bit higher than yours after having trailer flips and airborne canoes in windy parking lots. My first Bell…I babied it!
@carllamb1565
@carllamb1565 Жыл бұрын
@@HappyPaddlin great, thanks, that makes sense. I have an old Royalex Old Town Hunter (14ft) that I often take on the river so I don’t beat up the precious Solo😁. But I suspected that I was babying it slightly. Heck, if I’m going to put my nerves fully at ease, just gonna need another boat…
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin Жыл бұрын
@@carllamb1565 IXP = Me never paddling a plastic canoe again ;) The stuff is amazing and stronger than Royalex and definitely more fun to paddle. I've split Royalex boats open right at the bow and stern with good impacts. But....always good to love the canoes you have too! Have a great season!
@bobbarker2515
@bobbarker2515 11 ай бұрын
Which would you recommend for fishing small lakes and small rivers? No whitewater, just typical riffles and fast spots on some areas.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 11 ай бұрын
Phoenix!
@bobbarker2515
@bobbarker2515 11 ай бұрын
Curious, why the phoenix over the northwind? Thanks for the replies and content, I have been going through pretty much every video you have related to northstar. I found you via your echo review, then you answered a question of mine and mentioned ixp. An ixp search led me to northstar and what a coincidence, that led me back to you. Appreciate you and your content
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 11 ай бұрын
Bear from Northstar says it best the Phoenix is for rivers and lakes (the first/rivers being the priority). And the Northwind solo is for lakes and rivers. More rocker in the Phoenix. A bit more stable. And easier in small rivers to manage and maneuver. The NW Solo could work too if your rivers were bigger with less quick moves required.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and watching the vids. More coming now that the busy busy summer is behind me.
@WonderMonkey2
@WonderMonkey2 4 ай бұрын
Do you mind sharing how much Ralph weighs? He looks to weight a bit more than you. I'm 250 lbs during Quetico/BWCA season and am investigating solo options. Also, I'll look on your channel but I've never been able to kneel in a canoe due to my knees, but that padding you have on the bottom along with the padding you have on your seat looks interesting. If you have not done a video (I'll look) on that yet, could you?
@WonderMonkey2
@WonderMonkey2 4 ай бұрын
I'm looking on your site and I see the seat pad with saddlebags. I have zero experience in using those with a padding for kneeling.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 4 ай бұрын
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@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 4 ай бұрын
I’d guess around 210-220lbs. Taller and bigger than me for sure.
@WonderMonkey2
@WonderMonkey2 4 ай бұрын
@@HappyPaddlin Thanks!
@bradvoogel
@bradvoogel 2 жыл бұрын
Phoenix in starlight? Must be flat water paddling. IXP has been bomb proof for me. Not that much heavier either. Feels light compared to my Delphin.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Firebird in StarLite and have paddled it hard in moving water w lava rocks here. It’s doing pretty well. I like it light and am prepared to have to touch up later if need be!
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
But understand each to their own! And IXP is awesome and my Phoenix is in that lay-up.
@ToxicGamer86454
@ToxicGamer86454 Жыл бұрын
I want but I cant handle being their billboard.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin Жыл бұрын
Peel their stickers off over 60 seconds and go paddle incognito. Problem solved!
@ToxicGamer86454
@ToxicGamer86454 Жыл бұрын
@@HappyPaddlin I figured they were under an epoxy coat! I was just kidding anyway. I’m probably getting the Northwind Solo
@plmn93
@plmn93 4 ай бұрын
Ha, yeah that's my biggest gripe with Northstar. Not so much the branding, but the style. Looks very generic and utilitarian on otherwise beautiful boats. I'd probably peel it off. The star on the front looks nice though. They should integrate the name into that logo instead.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin 4 ай бұрын
@plmn93 Good comment. If peeling off model and brand text, I’d recommend calling Northstar and buying replacement stickers sooner than later to apply back if you plan to sell (or include with resale). I think textless boats look great too but I have also lost $ on the resale on boats that don’t have them that are out of production (like an old wildfire I had). Some folks want the text stickers and it sometimes makes the boat look more “owned” without them. Just my experience after having sold more Bells/Northstars than I can count since ‘96.
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