I lived in and around London for 30 years. These videos are so important to me to see how it's all changing. I'll miss the Thistle! Anyway, thank you for your hard work on this, and all your other videos. I, like many others I'm sure, rarely comment but take it from us quieter ones that they are much appreciated.
@XNA2NW35 жыл бұрын
The sheer vastness of this is mind-boggling.
@meloshea89915 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. I will keep watching the updates. I’ve been to Euston/ Euston Square recently. You seem to have answered all the questions that have crossed my mind. I will look harder next time that I go.
@sambarton59635 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, it's quite a mammoth project! I remember staying in that ibis hotel a number of times when I visited London as a kid!
@davidyoung51142 жыл бұрын
It's almost three years since this piece was filmed. Will there be an update this November?
@amethyst70843 жыл бұрын
Great video - shame they couldn't incorporate the old tube station into the new design. Almost time for that November visit to see how things are progressing...
@jrisner65355 жыл бұрын
So excited for HS2! Great to see the country doing something ambitious. Glad also that Euston is getting a big makeover, that whole area is a sink hole for architecture and placemaking
@stevec00ps5 жыл бұрын
I've only used Euston a handful of times but each time I've had a suitcase and then used the tube so I'm glad of the new entrance to Euston East!
@lycian1235 жыл бұрын
London to Birmingham is phase one of HS2. Yes it does shave of 30 mins but when phase two comes in it will have an overall advantage over any current journey to Manchester and Leeds from London and ultimately Europe. With the Eurostar just down the road the connection will be better than Paris has to it's national rail network. It's all to do with investing in the country's infrastructure, something Spain has done a lot. Madrid has plans to connect all cities by high speed services so none are more than a few hours from the capital or each other. Still, read the Daily Heil and turn pink all you want but some of us have jobs to do that aren't in the same village.
@SteveInskip4 жыл бұрын
And France is connecting Paris on the high speed TGV to Barcelona via Bordeaux and Toulouse. The national rail service from Paris is pretty good. TGV to Montpellier in under 4 hours.
@CRIMSONANT14 жыл бұрын
Stephen Saunders .. the biggest White Elephant this country has EVER experienced .. it will NEVER come to fruition despite the billions that have already been spent - mark my words.
@SteveInskip4 жыл бұрын
James Monks construction work starts tomorrow!
@CRIMSONANT14 жыл бұрын
@@SteveInskip .. it's irrelevant when the work STARTS .. I can guarantee it'll never FINISH because of spiralling costs & environmental damage .. the whole project will be cancelled LONG before the expected completion date.
@SteveInskip4 жыл бұрын
James Monks I should have a bet on that if I was that confident. You might get good odds.
@6yjjk5 жыл бұрын
Geoff, tell me they let you lob a toilet out the window. "Drop zone" sounds like so much fun! Bonus points if you nail a pigeon.
@Elvo76845 жыл бұрын
I'm pleased to see that Euston can finally shrug off the 1960's brutalist architecture. It's such a depressing place. The access link to the Circle line is also welcomed, dodging traffic and getting soaked is no fun. As a fan of the railways, I personally think that HS2 is a great idea. More updates on the Euston project would be welcomed.
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
Great! I reckon the project will run on budget and finish ahead of schedule. There will be high speed trains, no more power failures, signal failures, points failures or broken down trains etc. The trains and the infrastructure will be weather proof, no more delays due to heat or snow. I have complete faith in the project. Above all, there will no ticket lottery or over pricing because the fares will be the lowest in Europe. Can't wait.
@Mongchong_1235 жыл бұрын
I really like these kind of videos! Thanks Geoff 👍🏻
@TerryTheNewsGirl5 жыл бұрын
They're going to demolish the tube station, which is a horrid thing and they are demolishing the Ibis. That was my favourite hotel!! Always stayed there when I was in London, was pretty pissed off when I found out.
@johnhaines41635 жыл бұрын
Best thing they could do with the old station facade would be to reinstate the facade of Camden Town tube station. Geoff, do you know someone to suggest that to?
@PlanetoftheDeaf5 жыл бұрын
Good news that Euston underground station will get its own entrance, so that you don't need to access the NR station first, hadn't realised that was being built. Sad to see the Bree Louise all boarded up though.
@aldhous5 жыл бұрын
That taxi rank under Euston station is one of the most toxic, polluted, grim places I've ever been to in my life. And I've lived in Wales.
@tncorgi925 жыл бұрын
But where's the Kaboom? I was expecting an earth-shattering Kaboom!
@lyndarichardson47445 жыл бұрын
I remember passing through Euston station in the '60's when they did the last rebuild !
@2themoon8632 жыл бұрын
As pointed out below by others, it’s been three and a half years since any updates on what’s going on at Euston station and surrounding areas; would you be doing one sometime in 2022?
@richardanthonymorris5 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to go there for months and take photos of the area as I used to work nearby. Definitely going this Sunday.
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
Cool: Put your pics up on Flickr. :-)
@jonkess27685 жыл бұрын
I think the main Advantage of new build lines in britain is they use the Standard european Clearance gauge that means on this lines they can use Standard Highspeed trains by Stadler Siemens or Alstom, at the Moment every company has to develope a new product for the british Market. Every country uses Standard Stadler Flirt trains with some adjustmens only britain needs different trains for the Great Eastern Mainline.
@Eddyspeeder4 жыл бұрын
4:34 So Geoff is going to Euston station this coming week?
@scottpeacock54924 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Leslie Green tube station.
@valvlog46655 жыл бұрын
A tunnel to connect Eus Square and Euston -----> WOWEEEE! About 100 yrs late. After HS3 - 12, Marylebone Stn will need to be demolished to make way for new platforms 102 thru 139.
@Urbanplann5 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Can you do a video explaining what the whole plans are? And is the old tube building being demolished?
@eurobloke265 жыл бұрын
I would be really interesting if we could see some of the work as seen from Friends House (the Quaker building opposite Euston Station), it could put a different perspective on the work. The offices of Britain Yearly Meeting are the third floor so you could get a good view.
@Romartus4 жыл бұрын
Updating this for November 2019 - as promised at the end of this video??
@2themoon8633 жыл бұрын
And now add in November/December 2020 as well?
@rogerhudson97325 жыл бұрын
And when HS2 is scrapped?
@MelodeonTunes5 жыл бұрын
2:19 The Bree Louise RIP
@OldUKAds5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that hurt seeing that! The only authentic pub in the area. Oh you can walk a few metres and have a soul destroying Refinery visit. YAY! Hurrah for mediocrity.
@jordansclancy4 жыл бұрын
I am best mates with the owners' son, and my family know them very well. Many happy memories in that place 😥
@lawrencelewis81054 жыл бұрын
@@jordansclancy I was there on the last day they were open a few years ago. That was a fine pub!
@TheOiyou4 жыл бұрын
@@OldUKAds The other decent pubs are the Euston Tap in the listed blockhouses outside Euston and the Exmouth Arms. There's also the Resting Hare round the corner. I'd recommend the Euston Tap (the original one over the East Lodge) which, TBH, I always preferred to the Bree Louise once the Tap had opened.
@Tony_NZ3 жыл бұрын
Fast forward to July 2021. Is there any other videos following up on this activity?
@AgnostosGnostos5 жыл бұрын
I was wondered what happened to IBIS hotel near Euston station. I wanted to book a room there but it was disappeared.
@neilfell93975 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual and great to meet you in Park Lane a few weeks ago!
@lfewell21615 жыл бұрын
An ideal time to rebuild the doric arch perhaps, as the stones are still in existence somewhere.
@hairyairey5 жыл бұрын
Most of them were dumped in a canal I believe. Several others missing.
@goodwood-rc4nx5 жыл бұрын
they were dumped in a hole in the lee valley canel and found when dregring to deepenit for the olmypics as far as remember most have been found and are stored somewhere hopefuly someone at HS2 will see sence and put it back
@lfewell21615 жыл бұрын
@@goodwood-rc4nx There was also quite a lot stored in the demolition contractors garden !
@OldUKAds5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear god. While not rebuild cholera while we're at it.
@dukenukem57685 жыл бұрын
This has been discussed and investigated many times. Most of the stones have been broken up and used as rubble for infill all over the place. A few were kept as garden ornaments.
@20bertie5 жыл бұрын
Geoff, you'll have grey hair before this is finished!
@matsamuel56555 жыл бұрын
Geoff you should have called it what it is, 'The HS2 White Elephant'.
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
Mat Samuel That’s not what it is though
@OldUKAds5 жыл бұрын
And they should call you "Mat 'Lacks Vision' Samuel".
@scottpeacock54925 жыл бұрын
Mat Samuel, You should take a trip to Euston Station and see how many people actually uses the station, it is packed, Even the Underground is at full capacity, We need a railway fitted for the 21st Century, so if it mean getting there much quicker, So be it , the HS2 is happening whether you like it or not.
@Nayson5 жыл бұрын
There's a near identical tent and archeological dig on the Curzon Street site at the Birmingham end of the line too.
@jonnysegway57165 жыл бұрын
I did like staying at the Thistle, remember being just outside on the concrete ramp nearby watching the last total solar eclipse!
@dools235 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty interested in how they're going to fit the over site development in around the Hampstead Heath sight lines.
@FrancescoBellringer4 жыл бұрын
Geoff it’s almost time for you to go and visit Euston again! It’s the end of October 2019
@michaelbolton-a5 жыл бұрын
I think annually would be too long maybe every 6 months! Glad to see it go to be honest its nasty, has few redeeming qualities, the temp changes by network rail have made it even darker and im delighted to see the Grant thornton buildings come fdown those towers are hugly ugly - no one will miss them!
@alexhardiman85825 жыл бұрын
much like the old British Rail extension at the front of King's Cross did
@hairyairey5 жыл бұрын
@@alexhardiman8582 which apparently was temporary. 50 years or so I wouldn't call temporary!
@ahqhue5 жыл бұрын
Euston, the Penn Station of London. Though it's still slightly airier than rats (commuters) running around in tubes under an arena. Still disappointing getting off a Caledonian Sleeper and waking up to this.
@alexhardiman85825 жыл бұрын
@@ahqhue So many of the main Terminal stations are being developed to cater for such a huge increase in passenger numbers over the last 10 years or so. Waterloo, Kings Cross, St. Pancras, Euston all far too small or were using the space badly. Euston always feels huge when you go down onto the platforms, but the station concourse itself is like a shoe box.
@hairyairey5 жыл бұрын
@@ahqhue it is beyond a doubt the worst London Terminal. Even tiny Marylebone has character. It is definitely an opportunity missed not to rebuild the station. Close it for a month like they did with Waterloo.
@sophiepoyser47315 жыл бұрын
Is there any point to HS2? You can already get to Birmingham from London by train. They seem to be destroying a lot of history to do it.
@sophiepoyser47315 жыл бұрын
@Thegamer2000 How much quicker is it? From what I've heard it isn't much.
@sihollett5 жыл бұрын
@@sophiepoyser4731 32 minutes (81 minutes now to 49 minutes) for Birmingham (it's just shy of an hour for Manchester with phase 2b: 126 minutes to 68 minutes), but it's the capacity boost that's most important. Birmingham gets a minimum of another 1500 passengers/hour able to travel to London - which will mostly provide the knock on effect of more capacity for people of intermediate destinations like Coventry, Rugby, Milton Keynes and Watford to travel to London or Birmingham (and likewise for other cities).
@havaska5 жыл бұрын
I think it's more about adding capacity rather than making train journeys faster. And if you're going to build a new train line, you might as well build a high speed one.
@peterclark84085 жыл бұрын
Not forgetting of course that trains also operate to Birmingham from Marylebone where no doubt there is room for extra capacity. Not everyone wants to travel from Euston.
@sihollett5 жыл бұрын
@@peterclark8408 There's room on the Chiltern Mainline? that's a big surprise. They are going to build a spur to OOC to boost the middle distance services as there's no space at Marylebone for expansion. The inner stations have the worst service in Greater London as there's not the paths for trains to there stop more often. About all you can do is make the trains less comfortable, in order to squeeze more in and perhaps add another carriage to them. 15-20% and you still don't really deal with Birmingham-London traffic getting in the way of more regional traffic to the two cities.
@goodwood-rc4nx4 жыл бұрын
is a year since this video hopefully geoff does what he said about doing yearly update is coming soon
@christinegower91774 жыл бұрын
The TREES want you to know that they have no suicidal thoughts or ideologies of burning them selves down. They wish you to know they are happy and intend to live a long and healthy live helping humanity breath clean air and making homes for wildlife and birds.
@WALKER-276065 жыл бұрын
why demolish the old euston road station i would take it down brick by brick and rebuild it somewhere else
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
Why not get your wallet out and make HS2 an offer?
@ijulesy5 жыл бұрын
let's just demolish big ben while we're at it to install some new toilets.
@scottpeacock54925 жыл бұрын
@@ijulesy Demolished Big Ben?? That an iconic listed building, London be dead without the clock and also I beleive it going digital soon.
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38195 жыл бұрын
Cameron Bell Big Ben is a bell on not a building. You are referring to the clock tower of the Palace of Westminster, which was recently named the Elizabeth Tower.
@stephensaines71005 жыл бұрын
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 I believe he was being sarcastic...
@Rorschach.5 жыл бұрын
The cost of HS2 became too high when we lost the Bree Louise.
@DeeEfSea5 жыл бұрын
Not had a better pie in London than that place.
@DerrenWeekes5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Great pub booze and great pies, sadly now gone :-(
@affectionatepunch5 жыл бұрын
Only decent pub in that area 😢
@hughbreidenbach5 жыл бұрын
A tunnel connecting Euston Sqaure to Euston? Hussah!
@MrRooibos1234 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy about this. I live in the Midlands and I really hope this either brings big business back into Birmingham or makes commuting to London easier. I can afford a flat in Birmingham but the London prices are mind-boggling. Without HS2, I'd have to carry on paying ridiculously over the odds for Virgin's crappy 1hr 22min commute twice daily or bite the bullet and get a ridiculously big mortgage for a tiny flat. HS2 really helps solve that problem.
@johnclark70653 жыл бұрын
Birmingham is a boring shithole nothing special about the segregated city with no character or charm or sense of community.
@peterwilliamallen10632 жыл бұрын
@@johnclark7065 Oh we meet again you boring delinquent, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH BIRMINHAM MATE, Birmingham is a modern vibrant City full of charm and visitor attractions and is a diverse City in Culture, Sorry mate you have no proof of what you state as you don't even live in Brum, you just have a very small brain. 🤣👌✌😂 admit it you don't know anything about Birmingham so what is your problem
@AllThingsRailways4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for 2019 video!!!
@jacksugden81905 жыл бұрын
This is the continual march for progress, let’s hope they will build a better Euston station than the one we’ve got with nicer architectural design.
@Digscomics5 жыл бұрын
Shame they can't keep that old station building. I'm quite fond of it.
@marinaorgan589 Жыл бұрын
it better be taken down brick by brick rather than a wrecking ball. That is a valuable irreplaceable shell that could be rebuilt somewhere else.
@johnholt93994 жыл бұрын
What about restoring the Arch?
@ericjamieson5 жыл бұрын
Shame about the Leslie Green tube station. I realize there are a bunch of other ones but I think those are some of the most attractive buildings in London.
@OldUKAds5 жыл бұрын
It is, but let's be frank it's been an abandoned building with some red tiles on. It's not a tube station, and hasn't been for ages.
@dukenukem57685 жыл бұрын
I think those blood-red stations are hideous. There are plenty more of them as they were a standard design. This one is a neglected and decrepit example. Just save its tiles for any repairs needed on the others.
@sanjid48125 жыл бұрын
Used to work in that hotel. I really wanted to attend the demolition day! 😂
@emjayay5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that there was so much wood and bricks in the structure of a concrete Brutalist hotel building.
@OldUKAds5 жыл бұрын
I have weird mixed feelings about this. I think we have to invest in our infrastructure, but seeing how it is scarring the local area which I know so well makes it feel harder. But then... this is what every major infrastructure is like. No one mourns all that was lost when Euston was originally built as we love our train station and connections. We really are always building for the future, in many ways.
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
Not just a future, a better future for all. I can see sunny days coming, hope you can too.
@hideouslyugly5 жыл бұрын
Sad to see that old corner building is going.It would look great turned into a restaurant or cafe."Cafe Euston".
@JamesScantlebury5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic news. Long overdue. Intercity trains are packed as it is - extra capacity is much needed! And a much nicer Euston station + tube connections too! :D
@TheKagehisa5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Bree Louise. That was a great pub.
@Andrewjg_893 жыл бұрын
Why not do Euston again when HS2 is completed and new platforms being built. And a new underground subway walkway linking Euston main line station with Euston Square underground station.
@aldredd5 жыл бұрын
I used to do the Euston commute everyday - depressing journey through that station, so glad there's some work taking place in the area. Is there a plan to do anything with the existing station? I know there have been grand plans at various points in time, but did any of them come to fruition?
@MikeWillSee3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the HS2 plans rebuild the whole station rather than just bolting a bit onto the side
@martinwooder41745 жыл бұрын
Nothing is sacred not even the dead
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
They never have been. UK history is replete with incidences of old burial ground being moved (or simply ignored and just built over.). For a recent example look no further that Crossrail at Liverpool Street. Part of St James Gardens was previously moved when Euston was expanded in the past. This also isn't peculiar to rail scheme - roads, houses, schools, hospitals, shops, you name it, have impacted on old burial grounds.
@martinwooder41745 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s true.
@MrRevika4 жыл бұрын
Because this is going to be a new platform at Euston station for HS2
@joncurtis1995 жыл бұрын
Hey Geoff congrats on making the evening standard today with the tube world cup. I think?
@dgattenb5 жыл бұрын
why oh why did they not link hs2 up with hs1 .. been saying that for years .. that was the original plan ..
@sihollett5 жыл бұрын
Because serving those journeys with a high quality pedestrian link between Euston and St Pancras can be done for a fraction of the cost. And with the benefit of also improving stuff for some of the 95% of HS2 passengers who wouldn't travel through London on HS1 (eg connecting better with Thameslink), rather than penalising some of them by stealing an HS2 path from places like Stafford and Stoke and still not give central Birmingham, Liverpool, York, Newcastle, Preston or Scotland direct through services to Kent and France (where there would also be select destinations). Many of the 5% would find it better to make the change in London than use the through trains - take a frequent service to London from a wide number of Northern/Midlands destinations, change there for a full range of Kentish/Continental destinations also running frequently vs, if your city isn't one of the lucky ones, having to change onto an infrequent direct service at somewhere like Crewe or OOC, and then again at Stratford International or Lille if that end isn't one of the select destinations. Greengauge's model for a link had about a third of the passenger numbers walking Stratford-Stratford International (but assumed that the similar Euston-St Pancras distance was too far) despite the change available at Old Oak Common (they had people travelling from Canary Wharf via Stratford to HS2, rather than just taking the direct service to OOC), and a different rough third of traffic being Kent-OOC traffic that then went to destinations in the SE like Reading, Heathrow or Milton Keynes - they were clutching at straws trying to justify it. Or do you mean a death-trap Euston Cross? a vast cavern down deep that would still struggle to be large enough for the number of people boarding/alighting - not just in terms of crowd management, but also in terms of dwell times as most of a 500+ capacity intercity train disembarks and fills up again within the 5 minutes that a 6-platform layout would allow.
@hairyairey5 жыл бұрын
There is still the possibility of doing this at Old Oak Common so you can go direct from Birmingham to Paris. There just doesn't seem to be the demand for it though.
@dgattenb5 жыл бұрын
@@hairyairey with the Brexit farce and xenophobia, I don't think the two lines will ever be connected. Shame , a lost opportunity
@hairyairey5 жыл бұрын
@@dgattenb you mean with the media cashing in on Brexit hype? There's plenty of companies setting up in business here, possibly because here they won't have to pay EU tariffs.
@walker10545 жыл бұрын
@@hairyairey oh boy
@wilsonm68395 жыл бұрын
Funny how HS2 had a huge thing about it not being built but low and behold what’s happened now?
@charleswoodrow4 жыл бұрын
London tears too many things down. It's a shame. For instance 1:22 : Why did they tear down the building on the right?
@alexbright77355 жыл бұрын
I was there yesterday. Just visiting London.
@jgodfrey5465 жыл бұрын
Is the former Tube entrance now ventilation shaft still accessible or has the street been closed to pedrestrians already...?
@norbitonflyer56255 жыл бұрын
Closed north of Drummond Street when I was there, may be further south now.
@davidau84555 жыл бұрын
What an amazing project. To build a new railway within existing infrastructure is a massive undertaking.
@frankhan89935 жыл бұрын
Its strange that the construction is much slower than the original railway back in 1838, even with latest technologies
@rafaelgamma075 жыл бұрын
Thank god Geoff is back! I was almost going to unsubscribe from Londonist before this vid!
@gulfermendi63674 жыл бұрын
4:16 iiiiittss time for tubenews
@PaulBaird3 жыл бұрын
So, no update in 2 years ?
@RichardGMoss5 жыл бұрын
Any chance of he arch being reconstructed?
@dukenukem57685 жыл бұрын
No
@MikeWillSee3 жыл бұрын
There have been some proposals, but it's not part of the current plans
@29brendus5 жыл бұрын
I don't see why ST. Pancras was not used for this line north? Requiring only a short twin tunnels to meet the HS2 line near Euston. This would have allowed straight running to the north for trains coming in from Europe. Platform capacity should be adequate, especially if every second train was diverting north. So now, if you're from the north, you have to get off at St. Pancras, and tube or taxi or walk to Euston, the far side of Euston. Not properly thought out.
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
The original scheme had a single tunnel between St Pancras (roughly end of HS1) to Old Oak Common. They "deleted" it from the scheme because they reckoned there was not enough passenger demand for trains to/from Europe to/from north of London, it saved them a bit of money and appeased a load of Camden residents. It also means trainsets from Europe do not need to be compatible with the signalling system planned for HS2 (or vice versa.)
@29brendus5 жыл бұрын
@@davecardboard9567 If the new line HS2 is all 'new' then surely it would be compatible with HS1 and therefore all signalling [which is in cab], would be the same. Enginering consistency, trainsets and signalling, should be compatible as used on all HS networks in Europe. Population of Greater London say 12M, but combined up north population is much more. Otherwise it seems a shame not to have straight through running. Many thanks for your information.
@michaelhope88995 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be pedantic, but how are we meant to know which way is West on the map at the start when we don't have a way of knowing which was is north?
@dukenukem57685 жыл бұрын
@0:28 when he refers to "West" (and which I think you are referring to), the map is conventionally oriented with North at the top. It would only need to be indicated if it were anything otherwise. The plan @0:24 does not have North to the top, but it is an architect's plan, not a map.
@michaelhope88995 жыл бұрын
@@dukenukem5768 Then I stand corrected and withdraw my comment above :)
@wl03bu5 жыл бұрын
@3:58 those are really big buildings to be demolishing!
@the_9ent5 жыл бұрын
Don’t sure why I’m here or so interested. But I am.
@RayAviationYalla-Habibi5 жыл бұрын
I stayed at the Thistle hotel
@GaryJohnWalker15 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Euston's being effectively rebuilt - I've used it off and on for over 4 decades and the way it just became more and more closed in was ridiculous. The 1970s new station wasn't great, but it's been made far worse to use over the time. OTOH, I think HS2 itself's a waste of money. Especially over recent doubts as to whether the northern expansion will ever happen. Improve the Chiltern line as said elsewhere, triple up and down tracks for the west coast, and bomb proof power lines and signals to avoid the frequent disruption that happens now. Cheaper than HS2.
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
Gary Walker I doubt what you say is actually cheaper. The Chiltern Main Line is restricted by Marylebone, which is much more expensive to expand, and would also require electrification, and tripling the WCML isn’t an option in many places due to the surrounding area, so all of that would actually be a similar cost
@grahamross63975 жыл бұрын
Bastards closed the Bree Louise...
@caesar77344 жыл бұрын
*SCRAP IT!*
@zig1315 жыл бұрын
What there needs to be are decent rail lines along the South coast. As it is if you want to go from Kent to Dorset you have to go up to London and then back down - it's ridiculous. HS2 is just stupidly ambitious. It requires far too much demolition, construction and alteration.
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
Thomas Sturges-Allard Compared to the disruption without it, it’s nothing
@hairyairey5 жыл бұрын
Even worse by road along the South Coast.
@BronyumHexofloride5 жыл бұрын
i completely agree, if i want to go from Ashford (Kent) to Brighton or Portsmouth i have to wast soo much time going North to London just to come back down south again at an angle.. if they upgraded the lines between Ashford and Eastbourne and started using proper Trains and not these bumpy *and frankly useless at peak time* 2 car DMUs we could improve the south East - West connection allowing access to Kent from Hampshire Via Sussex without going via London's overcrowded network.. all by upgrading a short section of track
@StompersGLA5 жыл бұрын
the west coast mainline and euston station are absurdly inadequate for the amount of people that constantly use it. it’s such trash when you compare it to the rail services to other parts of the uk
@WinrichNaujoks5 жыл бұрын
Rather than just look sheepish, the guy should have offered an apology to pulling down the Leslie Green tube building.
@geoffreylee51995 жыл бұрын
Saving the exterior of that tube station for somewhere else would be done in Toronto.
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Lee They’re recovering the tile work for use on other tube stations in the same style (of which there are many), there isn’t exactly anywhere else it can go
@dukenukem57685 жыл бұрын
Pretty exactly the same station exists in many other places. It was a standard design. Used at Edgware Rd, Oxford Circus, Green Park, Lambeth North, E&C, Holloway Rd, Caledonian Rd, York Rd, Russel Sq, Aldwych, Kentish Town ... the list goes on, about twenty more. Try "Leslie Green" in Wikipedia. Thye are all ugly anyway.
@BronyumHexofloride5 жыл бұрын
to me its less the viability to build but more the viability to Run HS2, its faster to hop on a plane from London to Glasgow than going by Rail and cheaper to boot, if this "Northern powerhouse" plan falls through will there be sufficient people to use such a service and what of ticketing price? As it stands AFK to STP is £33.40 via HS1 vs £24.70 to CHX from AFK both at off Peak Return prices which is about 26% more expensive to go Via High Speed but its a difference of getting into London in 38 mins Vs 80 mins which is 110% faster... This is viable as you pay an extra £9 to get there in less than half the time but what if this formulae was applied to the much longer route of HS2? its worth it for us in Kent as it more than halves the duration of the trip but 30 mins off a 4 1/2 - 5 hour trip? and at what i can see as a likely beyond reasonable hike in cost for the priviledge? i just don't see the viability in the long run unless there is a huge shakeup of the fare system in the UK
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
It's the wrong way to think about HS2 as some "alternate" (but faster option) to the WCML availing choice as to whether to "pay a premium" to travel HS2 versus "normal" fares on WCML. Once HS2 opens, WMCL long distance intercity services essentially transfer to HS2, WCML intercity ceases to exist, so there won't be an alternate unless you want to take an all stations stopper (as now.) For really long distances such as London to Scotland, air will still be faster (and cheaper thanks to the lack of tax on aircraft fuel) so rail cannot compete. But there are plans being hatched to further improve time to/from Scotland. It seems to be that 3 hours is some kind of magic number which represents the tipping point that makes rail more convenient that air (though "3 hours" does sound like a rather convenient plucked out of the air magic number.) We await developments, but I believe the Scottish Government are lobbying for it. For shorter journeys such as Birmingham-London, Birmingham-Leeds, Birmingham-Manchester, air doesn't stand a chance of competing on time, maybe on price, but for door-to-door journey times, car is king for such distances (if we discretely ignore parking issues.) Of course, at time of posting, there's plenty of time for changes of Government and/or fares policy to happen before HS2 trains start running in revenue service.
@TheWkc195 жыл бұрын
Awesome cant wait for phase 1 to finish
@anslelost5 жыл бұрын
Why you wont be able to afford a ticket!
@lycian1235 жыл бұрын
Just checked and the Bhelpuri restaurants we've been going to for over 25 years are still there (we both used to work in Euston Tower). I also stayed at that hotel with my future wife. I prefer Ravi's but my wife likes Chutney's. chutneyseuston.uk/ The pub on the corner that has now gone was dreadful. It's staff seemed to have a point system as to how many people it could get drunk by 12:00. Please keep us updated on progress!
@cyclemartin40735 жыл бұрын
I’m in no hurry to get to Birmingham . It seems a lot of work and a Lot of Buildings have to go , just for this . I think it’s a Piss take take demolish the Old tube station. Why can’t they incorporate it somehow ?
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
nasty nick It’s on top of where the platforms are meant to be. It’s more to do with capacity, so you can actually make it on the train, not just get there faster
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
The site of this old tube station (closed in 1907) and all the other buildings in that locale are essentially about to become a big hole in the ground into which HS2 platforms and service basement are going to be constructed. It's simply impractical to try and "build round it." They could maybe save to street level facades and relocate them, but no one is stepping up to buy it (yet.) There's plenty of other examples of the same architecture in London (both abandoned and still in use.)
@cyclemartin40735 жыл бұрын
Dave Cardboard I just think it’s a Shame that’s all
@andrewcutler2225 жыл бұрын
I understand that they will not redo the Main bldg. of Euston Station. Is that True.?
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
If by "they" you mean HS2, then no they won't. HS2 do not have the remit or the money to rebuild Euston beyond what is required to avail HS2. To rebuild the rest of the station (and any other redevelopment that might be considered worthy) the Mayor, Camden, Network Rail et al have to put a plan together and lobby for the funding (which I believe some or all of them are doing.)
@connorcore70085 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where exactly those 40,000 exhumations are going to reburied?
@OldUKAds5 жыл бұрын
in your back garden.
@anto11915 жыл бұрын
I used to get cat called walking up Pancras Road going to work in the Royal Mail depot in St Pancras Way NW1 by the prostitutes who were going home after a nights work around Euston .
@chenh025 жыл бұрын
it took 15 years to actually start building?
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
HS2 got royal assent only 2 years ago
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
Sure but when the project starts to role, you will see how efficiently it works out i.e. under budget, ahead of planned opening, world class signalling and high speed trains that won't keep breaking down and will get a power supply that won't keep breaking down either. In short, you can expect a cheap alternative to using cars, better than Japanese, Chinese or German reliability and above all, the trains won't be affected by heat or snow. I'm excited, you should be too 🙌
@70humdinger945 жыл бұрын
What's the estimated date of completion of all this (to the point where HS2 is up and running)?
@agent_6055 жыл бұрын
70humdinger 2026 Phase 1, 2033 Phase 2
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
You will be pleasantly surprised. The project will run ahead of schedule, it will run under budget and will deliver a cheaper alternative to using cars , high speed service and the most reliable service in the world. I guarantee it.
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
The future looks good.
@RUFU585 жыл бұрын
23 people who disliked were staying in the thistle hotel.
@YaoboyProd2K155 жыл бұрын
Will Euston Railway station be temporary closed for HS2 works?
@davecardboard95675 жыл бұрын
If you mean "closed for X months/years for HS2 construction work" then no. If you mean "will there be some weekend/Xmas/etc. closures" then yes. Indeed there already have been as they rejigged some of the existing track in preparation, though often this was done in concert with closures for other (non-HS2) works. The basic plan is to build 6 new HS2 lines "offline" alongside (to the west) of the existing station negating the need for large numbers of closures, open the new HS2 platforms and transfer service to them, then close 5 of the existing western Euston platforms, clear them away and build another 5 HS2 platforms. It's unsure yet what will happen to the rest of the station (as it's not HS2's remit to redevelop the rest of the station) but the Mayor, Network Rail, et al are developing plans and lobbying for the money.
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
But remember, a small sacrifice for a better tomorrow.
@prp32314 жыл бұрын
The money is being spent wisely for your benefit, all the profits will be reinvested in the railways for a golden tomorrow. Wait and see. You won't be disappointed.
@anthonysheffield94925 жыл бұрын
Geoff - Would be great if you could do videos like this for the whole HS2 building process up and down the country. Perhaps on your channel.
@timelapselajolla41585 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see this as a one time visitor to London and not financially burden by it from taxes.
@lojabzmus10 ай бұрын
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